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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: george formby on February 13, 2010, 12:11:03 pm
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Can enyone tell me a bit about george for your customers also does it tell you when the round is next due whats the benefit?
thanks gaz
down loaded it it looks tricky not good with computers
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Hello George
There are a few programs on the market that all do the same thing in a way. Its a bit like saying a Bentley is a car and so is a Robin Rialto...both cars but i know what one id rather drive!!
Most software programs will help schedule your work, create invoices and reciepts, help to work out debts and help you keep a track of expenses.
They take the hassle out of doing all this manually with paper, pen and memory, they also help to establish a base to grow your business on by creating reports so you can monitor your customers and see where you may need to put additional effort in to grow your rounds.
Costs for these programs go from £25 to £1,500 plus and you get what you pay for to be honest.
For a more in depth look at programs why not pay a quick visit to www.windowcleanerpro.com where you will see what we have to offer.
Best regards
Brad
PS other round management software packages are available and the above comments are from a personal viewpoint and do not reflect the views of any business enterprise!!
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what are the other programs cheers
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Hello George
There are a few programs on the market that all do the same thing in a way. Its a bit like saying a Bentley is a car and so is a Robin Rialto...both cars but i know what one id rather drive!!
Most software programs will help schedule your work, create invoices and reciepts, help to work out debts and help you keep a track of expenses.
They take the hassle out of doing all this manually with paper, pen and memory, they also help to establish a base to grow your business on by creating reports so you can monitor your customers and see where you may need to put additional effort in to grow your rounds.
Costs for these programs go from £25 to £1,500 plus and you get what you pay for to be honest.
For a more in depth look at programs why not pay a quick visit to www.windowcleanerpro.com where you will see what we have to offer.
Best regards
Brad
PS other round management software packages are available and the above comments are from a personal viewpoint and do not reflect the views of any business enterprise!!
Brad are you a window cleaner? If not I don't understand your PS
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George is really good, and #i found it easier than other apps.
More like a database, which is what we should be using for this line of work.
Just play around with it, and you will get used to it. Just explore all the options and see for yourself. Buttons explain things for themselves, and with a palm pda, it so cuts out so much paperwork at the end of each day
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Hello George
There are a few programs on the market that all do the same thing in a way. Its a bit like saying a Bentley is a car and so is a Robin Rialto...both cars but i know what one id rather drive!!
Most software programs will help schedule your work, create invoices and reciepts, help to work out debts and help you keep a track of expenses.
They take the hassle out of doing all this manually with paper, pen and memory, they also help to establish a base to grow your business on by creating reports so you can monitor your customers and see where you may need to put additional effort in to grow your rounds.
Costs for these programs go from £25 to £1,500 plus and you get what you pay for to be honest.
For a more in depth look at programs why not pay a quick visit to www.windowcleanerpro.com where you will see what we have to offer.
Best regards
Brad
PS other round management software packages are available and the above comments are from a personal viewpoint and do not reflect the views of any business enterprise!!
Brad are you a window cleaner? If not I don't understand your PS
I am a partner in Window Cleaner Pro, hence why i was trying to remain impartial and offering an opinion from my viewpoint
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Hello George
There are a few programs on the market that all do the same thing in a way. Its a bit like saying a Bentley is a car and so is a Robin Rialto...both cars but i know what one id rather drive!!
Most software programs will help schedule your work, create invoices and reciepts, help to work out debts and help you keep a track of expenses.
They take the hassle out of doing all this manually with paper, pen and memory, they also help to establish a base to grow your business on by creating reports so you can monitor your customers and see where you may need to put additional effort in to grow your rounds.
Costs for these programs go from £25 to £1,500 plus and you get what you pay for to be honest.
For a more in depth look at programs why not pay a quick visit to www.windowcleanerpro.com where you will see what we have to offer.
Best regards
Brad
PS other round management software packages are available and the above comments are from a personal viewpoint and do not reflect the views of any business enterprise!!
Brad
Self promotion is only allowed if you pay the advertising rates.
You are allowed to answer questions, but not allowed to jump straight in and give your links etc.
If someone had said eg "how do you do this on pro" then that is allowed.
If on the other hand someone asks about George and you say " have a look at pro" that is not allowed.
Other members can give links to your program etc, But self promotion is a big NO NO, unless you pay the price.
I hope this clears up any confusion.
Dave
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Hello George
There are a few programs on the market that all do the same thing in a way. Its a bit like saying a Bentley is a car and so is a Robin Rialto...both cars but i know what one id rather drive!!
Most software programs will help schedule your work, create invoices and reciepts, help to work out debts and help you keep a track of expenses.
They take the hassle out of doing all this manually with paper, pen and memory, they also help to establish a base to grow your business on by creating reports so you can monitor your customers and see where you may need to put additional effort in to grow your rounds.
Costs for these programs go from £25 to £1,500 plus and you get what you pay for to be honest.
For a more in depth look at programs why not pay a quick visit to www.windowcleanerpro.com where you will see what we have to offer.
Best regards
Brad
PS other round management software packages are available and the above comments are from a personal viewpoint and do not reflect the views of any business enterprise!!
Brad are you a window cleaner? If not I don't understand your PS
I am a partner in Window Cleaner Pro, hence why i was trying to remain impartial and offering an opinion from my viewpoint
Whilst using the opportunity to promote your own product. Shame on you. ;D ;D
edit; damn Dave beat me to it
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george is dead simple to use,only thing i find is it has limited space to put any extra details on invoices,i.e payment options,website etc,and you have to print 1 out at a time instead of all for a certain day or round.I found it better to make an invoice up on openoffice(free alternative to microsoft word) and just fill in blank spaces as an when needed,No more wasting paper on people who are in to pay on the day
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i was thinking the other day everytime someone post a topic concerning george, brad jumps in promoting his product. i dont see paul from george doing the same on post about window cleaning pro. impartial with a coment about comparing programs to cars you where quite obvious in what you meant.
george is dead simple very usefull and cheap, for pocket george you can pick up a pda from a tenner + compared with a pda running wm5 which you need for wcpro
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We use Window Cleaner Pro and I personally think it's fantastic! Wouldn't be without it! ;D
Susan
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is it possible to put george or another program on an i-phone, i dont have 1 yet but am seriously considering (the reason i dont have one is cause with window cleaning i seem to wreck phones a bit.
if i had my work on there i would seriously consider looking after it.
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Never tried anytinng other than George. I look at other products and just see spreadsheets.
Spreadsheets are best for figures and accounts.
A database is for holding customer records, and managing them
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Dave- Point taken, it was intended to point out the differing option available in the marketplace, in hindsight I may have been OTT.
Sgibson - Where did I make a direct comparison of cars to George? I didn't but you have assumed I did. I also commented that pricing ranged from £25 to £1,500 plus, are you also assuming I am comparing to George with either of these prices too? Maybe Paul is not as interested in actively moving his program forward as Ian and I, that is why we regularly read these forums and reply as often as we do.
Just for the record I actually rate George and I only have praise for Paul in achieving what he has. I would be very proud to create and achieve what Paul has done.
I apologise for upsetting anyone, my response was intended to help not create annoyance.
Best regards
Brad
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ihave toay wincleanpro in my opinion has more to offer than george iv tried both and i lked the modern look of wincleanprohe reports the great after care serie the way they listen to thier clients with upgrades
but its down to personal opinion so take a free trial of them both :)
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George for me.. does everything I need it to & constantly gets upgraded with no extra cost...the dogs round ones methinks..
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George for me.. does everything I need it to & constantly gets upgraded with no extra cost...the dogs round ones methinks..
here here
brad will you have a special offer price at windex show. :P :P :P :P :P :P
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CAN IT GO ON A IPHONE?
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NO
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Mods- reference suppliers
It's all very well having self promotion rules in place, and equally valid to say someone owns this site and sets the rules.
The point that is missed though is that every time an alex, or a glynn, or a brad, or a paul is driven off this site either by heckling or by acussations of self promotion, the rest of us lose a valuable source of free expertise and advice.
I have george but use wcp.Every time a post is made and by brad or ian or when another user answers, i learn.This is a great reason for professional window cleaners to use this site.Direct access to some of the key decision makers and leaders in our industry is great for any ordinary window cleaner.
If the prime minister came on here explaining policy i would'nt expect mods to curb his trying to get labour votes, it's part of his job, and in the same way when Martin Lewis came on here recently plugging the 'tonight' programm i didn't see anyone telling him to mend his ways or sling his hook.(His post's were deleted though ;D ;D)
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Slump
I know Brad and he has thick skin, he wasnt aware of the rules but now he is.
Alex and Glyn didnt self promote, they did answer questions about there own products, they never said "hey look at this" , that is for members to do not themselves.
They were both driven away by other issues.
This forum is open to supplier advertising and as such those who pay the money, get the option to "self promote" it would not be fair on those who do advertise watch every other supplier doing it for free.
If someone mentions certain suppliers thats ok, suppliers can even answer questions, as the topics are brought up by someone else.
I hope this clears up the confusion regarding suppliers.
Dave
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i went many years without using any window cleaning programs or bothering with computers! ::)
i can honestly say george is simple,straightforward and easy to use,cheap to buy and does everything you want it to do for a small/medium window cleaning business.THATS IT!
i dont see the point in spending anymore than i need for a program that does exactly the same thing!maybe WCP is better for large businesses but for one man bands george is more than enough!
if any of you cant get your head round using george after a few weeks im sorry but you must be really thick!if i can,anyone can!!! ;D ;D
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Yes fine, just thought it was good to air the issues.I've sent an email to Gordon Brown telling him it will be okay to start a topic but we will draw the line if he starts blubbing.
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which palm pda is best to get with george,I know nothing about pda,s????
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which palm pda is best to get with george,I know nothing about pda,s????
I use a palm Z22. Can pick 'em up cheap enough on flea bay.
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i went many years without using any window cleaning programs or bothering with computers! ::)
i can honestly say george is simple,straightforward and easy to use,cheap to buy and does everything you want it to do for a small/medium window cleaning business.THATS IT!
i dont see the point in spending anymore than i need for a program that does exactly the same thing!maybe WCP is better for large businesses but for one man bands george is more than enough!
if any of you cant get your head round using george after a few weeks im sorry but you must be really thick!if i can,anyone can!!! ;D ;D
I agree with wot dazmond says. Its so simple to use.
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Both programs have a lot to offer. I have used George for a number of years and it does everything I need as a sole operator. My accountant likes the reports for year end accounting too.
There is a very easy learning curve with George to get up and running so is ideal for anyone with limited PC awareness.
However WPC appears more comprehensive and will probably be the way to go if your business grows, so as others have already said - it's horses for courses.
John
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how many jobs can you gret on one page on a pda?
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how many jobs can you gret on one page on a pda?
Mine holds a weeks worth of work, easily 100.
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Dave@st ives wrote 'I know Brad and he has thick skin, he wasnt aware of the rules but now he is.'
Lol...i wanna be loved too Dave!!! A hug at Windex will make uo for it though!!
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Brad
You can have a big hug, no probs
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ivegot george and it is ok BUT i bought a pda to use it on the road and im quite disappoionted at the lack of functionality of pocket george , for example a big need and one i still have to phone home for is a customers phone number .... that iosnt on pocket george , is the custys phone number on window cleaner pro??
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put your custys numbers in your mobile!problem solved!what wrong with ya!everytime i get a new custy i put them in phone address book and mobile.then if i lose or damage my phone ive still got their numbers in the book! :) ;D ;D ;D
simple!!
regards
dazmond
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put your custys numbers in your mobile!problem solved!what wrong with ya!everytime i get a new custy i put them in phone address book and mobile.then if i lose or damage my phone ive still got their numbers in the book! :) ;D ;D ;D
simple!!
regards
dazmond
Yep - I do the same - works for me!
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ivegot george and it is ok BUT i bought a pda to use it on the road and im quite disappoionted at the lack of functionality of pocket george , for example a big need and one i still have to phone home for is a customers phone number .... that iosnt on pocket george , is the custys phone number on window cleaner pro??
Customer Phone no's are on my PDA. Also put additional info - ie mobile etc in notes section.
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put your custys numbers in your mobile!problem solved!what wrong with ya!everytime i get a new custy i put them in phone address book and mobile.then if i lose or damage my phone ive still got their numbers in the book! :) ;D ;D ;D
simple!!
regards
dazmond
eerr yeah but i got 800 custys!
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ivegot george and it is ok BUT i bought a pda to use it on the road and im quite disappoionted at the lack of functionality of pocket george , for example a big need and one i still have to phone home for is a customers phone number .... that iosnt on pocket george , is the custys phone number on window cleaner pro??
Customer Phone no's are on my PDA. Also put additional info - ie mobile etc in notes section.
good idea re notes but im not going back and changing all my records. my Q was does wcp on a pda have phone numbers?? ....... anyone?? ::)
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If the round you are working is on the pda then all the custies in that round info will be there including phone numbers.
Is that what you mean?
You can have all the rounds on the pda , so all the info is at hand . If you want too.
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ivegot george and it is ok BUT i bought a pda to use it on the road and im quite disappoionted at the lack of functionality of pocket george , for example a big need and one i still have to phone home for is a customers phone number .... that iosnt on pocket george , is the custys phone number on window cleaner pro??
Matt
You might have your George set-up incorrect. I use George and Pocket George. My Palm Zire shows Customer Name in full, Address in Full and Telephone number in full.
Another useful item is the 'last done date'. I've had a couple of customers say you're a bit early, i thought we agreed x weeks. A quick check on Pocket Georhe and I can put them straight.