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Title: L5 heater users ?
Post by: Window Washers on December 15, 2009, 06:34:00 pm
Easy to understand,

if you use a L5 heater do you have the stickers on your van to say you are carrying gas ?

no one will be able to see who does not have one so please be honest if your breaking the law.
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: GWCS on December 15, 2009, 06:46:43 pm
Not always required..

so you better check with the HSE and VOSA

this might help..

http://www.bcga.co.uk/preview/publications/L12005.pdf

but who has fire training? and who also carry at least a 2kg fire extinguisher in the cab?
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: Window Washers on December 15, 2009, 07:01:56 pm
That is shocking to read, I hope anyone that employs are having there staff trained correctly and are keeping records of the training.

Also from reading: if you do not have vents for the gas, you have to have stickers to warn people, not even got past page 3.

Is shocking what is not known, I did not know more than half this stuff.

As said please be honest on the poll
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: GWCS on December 15, 2009, 07:08:45 pm
Some of the stuff on there is not valid for users with single bottle - your better off phoning the HSE and VOSA with your set up and asking for clarification.

I have a L5 but I dont use it in the van.
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: Window Washers on December 15, 2009, 07:09:39 pm
Some of the stuff on there is not valid for users with single bottle - your better off phoning the HSE and VOSA with your set up and asking for clarification.

I have a L5 but I dont use it in the van.
why ?
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: GWCS on December 15, 2009, 09:25:58 pm
Some of the stuff on there is not valid for users with single bottle - your better off phoning the HSE and VOSA with your set up and asking for clarification.

I have a L5 but I dont use it in the van.
why ?

why what?
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: Spruce on December 15, 2009, 09:32:48 pm
Funnily enough, one of the questions that I was asked on renewing my van insurance last week is if I carried any bottles of gas on board.
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on December 15, 2009, 09:37:04 pm
I've got vents (Roof and floor) and stickers on the outside of the van,.. also a fire extinguisher in the cab.

You can get automatic extinguishers for about £60 that attach to the roof and are set off by heat,.. very good idea IMO.
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: tomy jackson on December 15, 2009, 09:45:07 pm
it as 17 minet cut out so youl not gass your sellf
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: LWC on December 15, 2009, 09:50:29 pm
I had a sticker on my van when i had it in. I spoke to some firefighters about it as im applying and they said if you didnt have a sticker and they were there trying to get you out and it went off you could well be in big trouble and liable for alot.

Im not a gaylord about gas heaters in vans, but just being sensible is the best. Make sure bottle is secured and heater fitted properly with no leaks. And stick a sticker on back...simple...end of day touring vans have them fitted in so why not us.
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: matt on December 15, 2009, 09:52:12 pm
as standard what whats the fastest flow rate ? ? ? ?

10 LPM ? ? ?  more or less

cheers
matt
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on December 15, 2009, 10:21:19 pm
The L5 is 5 or 6 litres per min max,.. but there are more powerful heaters available.
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: matt on December 15, 2009, 10:31:42 pm
The L5 is 5 or 6 litres per min max,.. but there are more powerful heaters available.

thanks nat

i will have a look for something with a little more umph
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: matt on December 15, 2009, 10:55:04 pm
the L10 is the next 1 up i guess

$220 for 2.65 GPM

does these units ( the L5 ) have a pump ? ? ?  ?

so IN pipe from water tank, will it suck itself or does it need a pump ? ? ? ?  as its portable ( for RV's and cabins etc ) they wouldnt have main pressure

Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on December 15, 2009, 11:01:43 pm
These units have no pump,..

a 5lpm unit produces more than enough heat for WFP. I originally had a 10lpm unit but swapped it for an L% last winter as I felt it was too hot even on minimum heat on some frosty days!
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: peter holley on December 15, 2009, 11:08:14 pm
people spend all this money on heating water, so they can work on a handfull of cold days....yet most dont work in the rain, which we get day after day all year round ;D lol....its ust so silly ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: matt on December 15, 2009, 11:13:56 pm
These units have no pump,..

a 5lpm unit produces more than enough heat for WFP. I originally had a 10lpm unit but swapped it for an L% last winter as I felt it was too hot even on minimum heat on some frosty days!

so its

water tank --- 12 V pump --- L5 heater --- hose

will a 12 V sub pump work ? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: LWC on December 15, 2009, 11:46:31 pm
Why are you wanting such a high flow rate Matt? I use to have my shurflo set to 3 which is noraml working speed on digi varistream for me but could have it on full wap if needed...but you dont need that much? Are you thinking for something else?
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: matt on December 15, 2009, 11:51:12 pm
Are you thinking for something else?

indeed i am  ;)
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: matt on December 15, 2009, 11:52:51 pm
i want to fill a 2nd tank ASAP with hot water
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: Window Washers on December 16, 2009, 07:44:52 am
Some of the stuff on there is not valid for users with single bottle - your better off phoning the HSE and VOSA with your set up and asking for clarification.

I have a L5 but I dont use it in the van.
why ?

why what?
why don't you use it in the van?
Title: Re: L5 heater users ?
Post by: GWCS on December 16, 2009, 04:54:10 pm
Some of the stuff on there is not valid for users with single bottle - your better off phoning the HSE and VOSA with your set up and asking for clarification.

I have a L5 but I dont use it in the van.
why ?

why what?
why don't you use it in the van?

Insurance couldn't get covered with whom im insured with. Although i am covered to carry lpg - which is ok, as i will use it outside of the van when needed.

Dont need to use it regularly on cleans, so dont see the need to pay extra to have it covered.

There are lots of rules and regs regarding proper installed LPG usage appliances in vehicles, most users dont care about let alone know.