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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: krave on December 05, 2009, 04:08:47 pm
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Just about to order my slx, and goping with the Super light dual trim brush.
Is this the best option and will the platic neck be ok to start of with, Or should I get the ali one 12 or 14".
Would rather not get the ali one atm due to funds, but if its worth it I will.
Cheers. :)
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Yep, brush is fine but order 2 plastic necks & when you need that extra bit of reach into deep sills you can screw two together. ;)
1 is sufficient for 99% of my work, I have to screw two together for the very odd job.
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Yep, brush is fine but order 2 plastic necks & when you need that extra bit of reach into deep sills you can screw two together. ;)
1 is sufficient for 99% of my work, I have to screw two together for the very odd job.
agrre with the above..you wont go far wrong with the SLX mate
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Yep - go with the SLX and superlight dual trim - a winning combination :)
I don't regret paying the money out - I'm so much less tired at the end of the day now.
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Order a swivel connector too & when it comes I'll tell you how to modify it to make it work properly & strengthen it.
Plastic angle neck + modified swivel, you'll never work any other way again! ;)
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Yep, brush is fine but order 2 plastic necks & when you need that extra bit of reach into deep sills you can screw two together. ;)
1 is sufficient for 99% of my work, I have to screw two together for the very odd job.
Have to agree with this
Thats the second time today I have agreed with macmac :o
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Yep, brush is fine but order 2 plastic necks & when you need that extra bit of reach into deep sills you can screw two together. ;)
1 is sufficient for 99% of my work, I have to screw two together for the very odd job.
Have to agree with this
Thats the second time today I have agreed with macmac :o
get a room!!
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Does anyone else here use their SLX with the hose outside the pole? It can be a bit fiddly at times but it really cuts down the grit problem. I've started to get used to it this way and think I will probably stick with it.
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Yep, brush is fine but order 2 plastic necks & when you need that extra bit of reach into deep sills you can screw two together. ;)
1 is sufficient for 99% of my work, I have to screw two together for the very odd job.
Have to agree with this
Thats the second time today I have agreed with macmac :o
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* ;D
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Spot on guys. Very excited!
Just got to do the van floor (done the sides of ply and wheel arch covers with shed paint) Is water resistant so should stop the smell.)
Get a couple of bars welded, get battery and mount ro on a stand to be able to move it due to no where for my setup really lol.
Got some jobs in just over a week that I hate doing trad, and know Wfp will be so much better!
As said V excited!!!
P.s. What is Wfp like on old small square wooden pane windows? Am a bit worried of finish.
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Just about to order my slx, and goping with the Super light dual trim brush.
Is this the best option and will the platic neck be ok to start of with, Or should I get the ali one 12 or 14".
Would rather not get the ali one atm due to funds, but if its worth it I will.
Cheers. :)
Good move ;)
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Does anyone else here use their SLX with the hose outside the pole? It can be a bit fiddly at times but it really cuts down the grit problem. I've started to get used to it this way and think I will probably stick with it.
No - but I have made a hose tidy which saves coiling and tangling and really cuts down on grit.
I love the SLX! I believe am earning £2-300 a month extra because of it.
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Good to see such high praise for the pole! Have also founds Gardiners service to be faultless, so all in all should be good!
Wish I had enough work for it to earn me a extra £2-300 pm, But that will come.
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P.s, When I ordered my hose a reel from them, With fitting kit, It is a Ez snap connector I got isnt it? Not Pro tail....
Dont wanna order the wrong bit!
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Order a swivel connector too & when it comes I'll tell you how to modify it to make it work properly & strengthen it.
Plastic angle neck + modified swivel, you'll never work any other way again! ;)
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Swivel_Adapter175.jpg)
One of these mate?
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Order a swivel connector too & when it comes I'll tell you how to modify it to make it work properly & strengthen it.
Plastic angle neck + modified swivel, you'll never work any other way again! ;)
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Swivel_Adapter175.jpg)
One of these mate?
Yes, let me know when you get it. ;)
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Order a swivel connector too & when it comes I'll tell you how to modify it to make it work properly & strengthen it.
Plastic angle neck + modified swivel, you'll never work any other way again! ;)
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Swivel_Adapter175.jpg)
One of these mate?
Yes, let me know when you get it. ;)
If all is in stock Tues would be lovely, or maybe wens! Spot on mate. ;D
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Order a swivel connector too & when it comes I'll tell you how to modify it to make it work properly & strengthen it.
Plastic angle neck + modified swivel, you'll never work any other way again! ;)
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Swivel_Adapter175.jpg)
One of these mate?
Yes, let me know when you get it. ;)
If all is in stock Tues would be lovely, or maybe wens! Spot on mate. ;D
No probs it's just a 2 minute job. you'll need 3mm drill bit (ish) & a nail/pin that will fit through that hole. ;)
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Order a swivel connector too & when it comes I'll tell you how to modify it to make it work properly & strengthen it.
Plastic angle neck + modified swivel, you'll never work any other way again! ;)
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Swivel_Adapter175.jpg)
One of these mate?
Yes, let me know when you get it. ;)
Macmac, I have ordered one, How do you strenghten it?
Matt
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Just about to order my slx, and goping with the Super light dual trim brush.
Is this the best option and will the platic neck be ok to start of with, Or should I get the ali one 12 or 14".
Would rather not get the ali one atm due to funds, but if its worth it I will.
Cheers. :)
I would recommend not bothering with the ali goosenecks. For the miniscule amount of time they are perfect for the job, they made the brush harder to control for the other 99% of my work.
The standard plastic is best to start with. I've never used the swivel.
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Spot on guys. Very excited!
Just got to do the van floor (done the sides of ply and wheel arch covers with shed paint) Is water resistant so should stop the smell.)
ive just finally got my plylining finished and i put my first coat of protecktakote on it today, bloody hell that stuff gets you as high as a kite :P ;D, hopefully another coat going down in the next few day and then i can fit my set up next weekend. icant wait to be totally WFP
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Spot on guys. Very excited!
Just got to do the van floor (done the sides of ply and wheel arch covers with shed paint) Is water resistant so should stop the smell.)
ive just finally got my plylining finished and i put my first coat of protecktakote on it today, bloody hell that stuff gets you as high as a kite :P ;D, hopefully another coat going down in the next few day and then i can fit my set up next weekend. icant wait to be totally WFP
I cant wait. Shed paint has done wonders on the ply on the sides etc. Going to use garage floor paint or pond/pool paint for the floor to save cash over the protekta kote.
I cant wait either, other than I have to wait till wednesday to order my pole :'(
Hopefully no more problems come up or gardiners dont sell out!!
What set up have you gone with mate, Or what parts/equipment you using if diy?
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ive got a purefreedom 650 ltr set up, bought it off one of the lads on here last week, ive been using a backpack for a few months so i know how good wfp is. what about you? whats set up you gone for?
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I protecta kote'd my van floor on thursday,then went on to fitting tank brackets on friday/saturday,I found this to be a f***ing nightmare,used my mates workshop with a pit in,god knows it would of been a real struggle without it,I have started to think that getting a engineering firm to design/fit a suitable anchoring system would of been a far more cost effective way of doing it,I am hoping to just fit/connect hoses to my tank and pump tomorrow and buy some ratchet straps(hopefully from a local supplier) then try it out in the afternoon/tuesday,The costs just keep adding up,but am sure once its up and running the spending will be minimal(I hope!)
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I protecta kote'd my van floor on thursday,then went on to fitting tank brackets on friday/saturday,I found this to be a f***ing nightmare,used my mates workshop with a pit in,god knows it would of been a real struggle without it,I have started to think that getting a engineering firm to design/fit a suitable anchoring system would of been a far more cost effective way of doing it,I am hoping to just fit/connect hoses to my tank and pump tomorrow and buy some ratchet straps(hopefully from a local supplier) then try it out in the afternoon/tuesday,The costs just keep adding up,but am sure once its up and running the spending will be minimal(I hope!)
what were the problems you had fitting it? also did you do two coats of paint? how long did it take to dry?
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I went with a Hf5 4040 ro, 35" di, 350 ltr tank, 1000ltr static tank. 6mm microbore, 100psi flojet and ecoflo, And ordering the slx25.
Chopsie know what you mean about it adding up, I keep thinking, this much more and im done! Wrong. lol. Keeps going. Almost there now, just the final little bits, but they add up!
Getting bars welded across the back of my van tuesday to hold the tank in place, Nothing to major, but should do.
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ive got a purefreedom 650 ltr set up, bought it off one of the lads on here last week, ive been using a backpack for a few months so i know how good wfp is. what about you? whats set up you gone for?
Speed wise on close domestics do you find it any quicker?
And one thing im not too sure about is hose. If I have my van parked, Am i ok to drag hose 50 up the path two a house ten houses away?
Or is this no good and have to keep moving van.....
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Yes I did 2 coats,It took roughly 2 hours to dry,I was surprised as it was a cold damp day,then I hit it with a second coat around 5pm and left it over night to dry.the problems i had was where and how to fix to chassis,also locating all the supplies i needed,I was running around half the day buying bits,then the bloody drill bit(16mm) which I bought for £20 went blunt and that just screwed me up for hours,I just got as much as i could ready without it until my mate got back(I could not leave his workshop open and go buy another one for yet more money in case something got nicked while i was gone,as he had not left me any keys).I used threaded bar and thick angle to construct a fitting around the chassis in the four corners where the tank will sit,then drilled a hole in the angle in the van where a ratchet strap will hopefully fit.Anyway my mate came back,and his worker knew how to sharpen drill bits and they both gave me a hand so we soon finished it off then,But i think an engineering firm could of done a better job,lots quicker for not a great deal of money.
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ive got a purefreedom 650 ltr set up, bought it off one of the lads on here last week, ive been using a backpack for a few months so i know how good wfp is. what about you? whats set up you gone for?
Speed wise on close domestics do you find it any quicker?
And one thing im not too sure about is hose. If I have my van parked, Am i ok to drag hose 50 up the path two a house ten houses away?
Or is this no good and have to keep moving van.....
right i always get shot down for this ::), but i think its a least twice as quick on the work i do ;D no joke, dont think you will solely only ever use wfp again though. i did some comercial work on friday and went back over it with trad as the wfp didnt give the finish wanted.
the only thing i would say about the hose is to get a sign warning people, that way you cover yourself slightly if someone trips over it, i will be dragging my hose everywhere though and leaving my van locked up, i have 100 metres coming this week from gardiners.
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Yes I did 2 coats,It took roughly 2 hours to dry,I was surprised as it was a cold damp day,then I hit it with a second coat around 5pm and left it over night to dry.the problems i had was where and how to fix to chassis,also locating all the supplies i needed,I was running around half the day buying bits,then the bloody drill bit(16mm) which I bought for £20 went blunt and that just screwed me up for hours,I just got as much as i could ready without it until my mate got back(I could not leave his workshop open and go buy another one for yet more money in case something got nicked while i was gone,as he had not left me any keys).I used threaded bar and thick angle to construct a fitting around the chassis in the four corners where the tank will sit,then drilled a hole in the angle in the van where a ratchet strap will hopefully fit.Anyway my mate came back,and his worker knew how to sharpen drill bits and they both gave me a hand so we soon finished it off then,But i think an engineering firm could of done a better job,lots quicker for not a great deal of money.
i thought the paint took days to go off so thats good news what you have said there, did you use a roller or paint brush? i will do my second coat tomorrow and then fit the L shaped plastic that i have bought to go up against the sides.
I have made some plates to go under my chassis and i have also got myself some 200mm bolts to go through the chassis and into the cab. the only thing as you say is lining it up properly. Im good with a tape measure though so i should sort this no problem. need to get my drill bit though so i may get that tomorrow so that im ready for fitting asap, then its just a case of wiring it all up to the van battery
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I did it with roller and brush for the sides(about 2-3 inches up),second coat i used a brush as i broke the roller ::) If you read the instructions for the paint,you only have a certain amount of time to apply the second coat as it does not bond with the first coat when its is fully hard!! I hope its not too late!
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ive got a purefreedom 650 ltr set up, bought it off one of the lads on here last week, ive been using a backpack for a few months so i know how good wfp is. what about you? whats set up you gone for?
Speed wise on close domestics do you find it any quicker?
And one thing im not too sure about is hose. If I have my van parked, Am i ok to drag hose 50 up the path two a house ten houses away?
Or is this no good and have to keep moving van.....
right i always get shot down for this ::), but i think its a least twice as quick on the work i do ;D no joke, dont think you will solely only ever use wfp again though. i did some comercial work on friday and went back over it with trad as the wfp didnt give the finish wanted.
the only thing i would say about the hose is to get a sign warning people, that way you cover yourself slightly if someone trips over it, i will be dragging my hose everywhere though and leaving my van locked up, i have 100 metres coming this week from gardiners.
I have a lot of houses that I can will really benifit from Wfp. Houses with three ladder lifts per window etc.
Can I ask what you mean by the finish and doing trad on the commercial mate.....
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id be interested how u get on with using WFP on your rounds krave as i will be saving up now for both van/WFP.MY MOMENT OF MADNESS HAS PASSED ABOUT STAYING TRAD!!!! ;D ;D.itll take me most of the year to save up for both though! ::)but ill get there with hard work and tenacity!! ;D ;Dmaybe u could do a little post every week on how its going?
best wishes to u
dazmond
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I did it with roller and brush for the sides(about 2-3 inches up),second coat i used a brush as i broke the roller ::) If you read the instructions for the paint,you only have a certain amount of time to apply the second coat as it does not bond with the first coat when its is fully hard!! I hope its not too late!
Oh bugger. Ive left it over night an wont get back till bout 4 today. Hopefully the cold weather wont of helped it go off so will be ok as i wouldnt like to strip it back ;D
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id be interested how u get on with using WFP on your rounds krave as i will be saving up now for both van/WFP.MY MOMENT OF MADNESS HAS PASSED ABOUT STAYING TRAD!!!! ;D ;D.itll take me most of the year to save up for both though! ::)but ill get there with hard work and tenacity!! ;D ;Dmaybe u could do a little post every week on how its going?
best wishes to u
dazmond
Hey mate, I will let you know how things get on!!
Also will be making a post in a few days with a fair few pics. Made alot of custom bits for my setup. Very excited about the finished product and the work ahead!!
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I did it with roller and brush for the sides(about 2-3 inches up),second coat i used a brush as i broke the roller ::) If you read the instructions for the paint,you only have a certain amount of time to apply the second coat as it does not bond with the first coat when its is fully hard!! I hope its not too late!
its ok i hope, it said on the instructions that you can just rub it down lightly and then re-coat, all done now so all i have to do is wait till the weekend and i can fit the tank. going to make a template though and then i can drill the holes in the floor so once the tank goes in i can just bolt it up straight away. im out sat night and then at the match all sunday so i inoy have sat morning to get it done ???
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I have a lot of houses that I can will really benifit from Wfp. Houses with three ladder lifts per window etc.
Can I ask what you mean by the finish and doing trad on the commercial mate.....
it was mainly the doors of the buildings where peoples hands have been on the glass, i found that i couldnt get rid of them with the brush so had to go trad, not a big problem but just goes to show that wfp aint the answer to everything ;D
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id be interested how u get on with using WFP on your rounds krave as i will be saving up now for both van/WFP.MY MOMENT OF MADNESS HAS PASSED ABOUT STAYING TRAD!!!! ;D ;D.itll take me most of the year to save up for both though! ::)but ill get there with hard work and tenacity!! ;D ;Dmaybe u could do a little post every week on how its going?
best wishes to u
dazmond
Hey mate, I will let you know how things get on!!
Also will be making a post in a few days with a fair few pics. Made alot of custom bits for my setup. Very excited about the finished product and the work ahead!!
i was thinkin this today, i should of took pics of my van before during and after, im now at the stage where all my van is insulated and plylined and the floor is painted. still need to ply the doors and then build the arches in and build a few little storage points as well as fitting all my tanks and poles.
How did you get on with the wiring and also have you gone for external ports?
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id be interested how u get on with using WFP on your rounds krave as i will be saving up now for both van/WFP.MY MOMENT OF MADNESS HAS PASSED ABOUT STAYING TRAD!!!! ;D ;D.itll take me most of the year to save up for both though! ::)but ill get there with hard work and tenacity!! ;D ;Dmaybe u could do a little post every week on how its going?
best wishes to u
dazmond
Hey mate, I will let you know how things get on!!
Also will be making a post in a few days with a fair few pics. Made alot of custom bits for my setup. Very excited about the finished product and the work ahead!!
i was thinkin this today, i should of took pics of my van before during and after, im now at the stage where all my van is insulated and plylined and the floor is painted. still need to ply the doors and then build the arches in and build a few little storage points as well as fitting all my tanks and poles.
How did you get on with the wiring and also have you gone for external ports?
I am making my own external ports.
I have made my own ply lining and boxes have been done, With access hatches to access hiden taps etc. Got straps to hold my dit pump box in, made a custom ro/ pre filter stand. Making a battery/charger box this weekend.
Lay some rubber matting in places....
Wiring so far been a doddle to be honest, not much of it. Making runners to hold hoses all true and square to pump box. Everything has to be very linear and neat lol.
Only thing is, all this effort and the thing may die in a week (van that is). Although if it does will just go out and get one of the newer diesel lumps and spend a weekend putting that in.
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I am making my own external ports.
I have made my own ply lining and boxes have been done, With access hatches to access hiden taps etc. Got straps to hold my dit pump box in, made a custom ro/ pre filter stand. Making a battery/charger box this weekend.
Lay some rubber matting in places....
Wiring so far been a doddle to be honest, not much of it. Making runners to hold hoses all true and square to pump box. Everything has to be very linear and neat lol.
Only thing is, all this effort and the thing may die in a week (van that is). Although if it does will just go out and get one of the newer diesel lumps and spend a weekend putting that in.
Are you just going to drill holes through the floor and put gromets around the hose as it goes out? i guess there is not much wiring to be done as its really just the wires to the battery?
What van have you got?
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I have a astra van. Mk4. Some pics of it on my "sign writing proof" thread.
Have used a 350ltr lay flat tank.
I am having it coming out the side of the van, Making it so a brass hozelock connector (male) Just poking through.
Has to be neat. And not to worried about devalueing van As i will more that likely kill it in my time anyway.
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Exciting times for you krave. ;D
You have bought well and with the kit you have you are opening up a whole new world of possibilities.
Fair play to you.
I have a lot of houses that I can will really benifit from Wfp. Houses with three ladder lifts per window etc.
Can I ask what you mean by the finish and doing trad on the commercial mate.....
it was mainly the doors of the buildings where peoples hands have been on the glass, i found that i couldnt get rid of them with the brush so had to go trad, not a big problem but just goes to show that wfp aint the answer to everything ;D
It's very hard to know unless on really big jobs, (where you started is dry by the time you finish) but the moral of the story i think is don't forget we are there to clean the windows.
Not every job takes to wfp 100%. But with the time saved, it is easy to quickly detail any problem windows.
This is why it's important to check some or (most 1st cleans) work when dry. Time consuming in the beginning, but knowing which windows love wfp and which ones don't initially will save you loads of time on subsequent cleans.
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Well all Didnt go to plan last week. Lent some money and all wernt wrong etc etc.
So called Gardiners up on monday to check they had a alright amount of stock left and got told they had 3, yes 3! My heart sank as I already missed out on the 22, and started thinking Im going to end up getting a 30 if I want it before Xmas. But the lovely ladie on the other end of the phone said they would hold it for me untill Wednesday, ;D.
Come Wednesday my money hadnt come back so was fuming and worried, but got most of it, said could I pay for the pole and order the rest of the bits I wanted today, they said they would wait till today! Excelent. Looked online last night and they had sold out!!! Was not feeling comfortable last night incase they had accidently sold it or something.
Called up this morning after getting a parking ticket putting cash in the bank and ordered it! Was confirmed at 3 this afternoon that it did get sent out for delivery, so should be here tomo!!!!!!!!
Practice over the weekend a little and hit a few of my bigger jobs next week with it!
Need to find some threads about best technique etc, and any tips and general routine.
Does anyone know if the fitted flow valve that you can order on the slx is a tap, or like a trigger valve??
Happy days!!!
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Does anyone know if the fitted flow valve that you can order on the slx is a tap, or like a trigger valve??
Happy days!!!
A tap. You will need to adjust the pressure switch on your pump after fitting one, to make it work. Or adjusting yopur flow controller. :D