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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JRDEasiReach on November 26, 2009, 02:54:33 pm

Title: Wee question on trad
Post by: JRDEasiReach on November 26, 2009, 02:54:33 pm
right this isnt to stir up the war between trad and wfp but using trad only and say doing 20 houses in a day with your mop, doesnt that mean that you are basically transferring the dirt you have took off other houses onto the windows of the remaining houses during the day even though you change the water, my mop is getting dirty and i only use it on very odd ocassions, and im scared its putting dirt on other peoples glass again, dont you think this could be the case?

Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: bignick on November 26, 2009, 02:58:23 pm
if the mop gets dirty you could wash under a tap to clean it off before the next house.  dirt maight getted pushed about on the glass but then wiped off with squeggee! 
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: elite mike on November 26, 2009, 02:58:59 pm
i know wcs who will use 1 bucket full of water ,and it will

last them all day :o

and never had a complaint  :)
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: JRDEasiReach on November 26, 2009, 02:59:47 pm
yes i know you could wash it under a tap but it still looks rotten.  ;D
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: krave on November 26, 2009, 03:00:51 pm
I use 1 bucket all day, Doesnt cause a problem in the slightest. The mop is mostly to loosen durt etc I would imagine, The blade then removes anything left on the window. Never had a complaint I can remember of.
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: jonnyald on November 26, 2009, 03:20:20 pm
once theyr part of a regular round,windows hardly get dirty anyway ,    not enough to turn the water brown  . i usually only have a couple of inches water in my bucket and tip it out about twice a day 
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: cozy on November 26, 2009, 03:48:35 pm
JRD, You will get all those sort of statements from your custies in the years to come. Even if you can be bothered to answer them properly, after 90 seconds the custy stops listening. ;D Somebody must have set that question in your head. Get used to custies asking what the "Secret mix" you use on the glass to get it clean.
Funny old game this WC malarky ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: JRDEasiReach on November 26, 2009, 03:50:37 pm
yeah all my custies seem surprised i dont use anything but water on the glass, when i say its pure they dont even get the fact that it aint straight from the tap either :)
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: cozy on November 26, 2009, 04:18:35 pm
No mate, it's not just water, it's "Magic water" ;D
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: Smudger on November 26, 2009, 04:36:24 pm
Ahhh   i see...     in that pole thingy you have special water !!??

so what is cleaning my window then ?   


where's the soap --  is it special ?     could i buy some off you  ??

Ho Hum!

Darran
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: dazmond on November 26, 2009, 05:38:06 pm
JRD i put my T MOP sleeve in the wash with scrims/microfibres every week and use it for 5 or 6 days work.i use on average 3-4 half full buckets a day.no problem.if its a v.bad first clean i will get a fresh one out of the boot if ive really dirtied it.doesnt affect the clean one bit.i dont ring any cloths out in the bucket.this makes the water v.dirty.v. quickly!!
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: cozy on November 26, 2009, 05:39:47 pm
Ahhh   i see...     in that pole thingy you have special water !!??

so what is cleaning my window then ?   


where's the soap --  is it special ?     could i buy some off you  ??

Ho Hum!

Darran

 ;D ;D Pole thingy
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: lcwalker on November 26, 2009, 05:43:29 pm
Well the thing is trad has been used for lots of years and people have been happy as it cleans windows well and leaves them dry which i find customers like, wfp doesn't but im not getting involved in that debate today.
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: Helen on November 26, 2009, 05:47:01 pm
right this isnt to stir up the war between trad and wfp but using trad only and say doing 20 houses in a day with your mop, doesnt that mean that you are basically transferring the dirt you have took off other houses onto the windows of the remaining houses during the day even though you change the water, my mop is getting dirty and i only use it on very odd ocassions, and im scared its putting dirt on other peoples glass again, dont you think this could be the case?


If you are concerned about it, why not carry spares and change them regularly? :) would put your mind at rest wouldn't it
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: krave on November 26, 2009, 06:31:56 pm
JRD i put my T MOP sleeve in the wash with scrims/microfibres every week and use it for 5 or 6 days work.i use on average 3-4 half full buckets a day.no problem.if its a v.bad first clean i will get a fresh one out of the boot if ive really dirtied it.doesnt affect the clean one bit.i dont ring any cloths out in the bucket.this makes the water v.dirty.v. quickly!!

I once put my unger sleave through the wash (monsoon one) And found it made it go a bit ratty of you know what I mean, all clumpy and wouldnt hold the same as it used to. Now just replace them every month or so. Do rinse it out at night but thats about it.
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: Ian Lancaster on November 26, 2009, 06:36:38 pm
The way to look at Trad cleaning is that the mop is to dislodge the dirt from the surface of the glass.  The water (wether or ot you use detergent - in my early days we weren't allowed to :o) is to lubricate the dirt so it is floating around in the film of water on the glass.  You then remove it with the squeegee leaving the glass clean.

It makes no difference whether your water is fresh or not, providing it isn't so muddy your mop stands up in it, the important thing is to squeegee properly so no dirt is left on the glass.

I do very little 'trad' cleaning these days, and I have a bucket with a couple of inches of water in it in the van.  Sometimes it lasts me a month ::)  I never get complaints because my results are always first class.
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: dazmond on November 26, 2009, 06:39:20 pm
krave what nonsense!!i wash my unger monsoon sleeves every week with my scrims.no problem and one will last YEARS!!doesnt affect water absorbtion at all.u buy a new one EVERY month?wasting ur money in IMO
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: Tosh on November 26, 2009, 06:45:08 pm
right this isnt to stir up the war between trad and wfp but using trad only and say doing 20 houses in a day with your mop, doesnt that mean that you are basically transferring the dirt you have took off other houses onto the windows of the remaining houses during the day even though you change the water, my mop is getting dirty and i only use it on very odd ocassions, and im scared its putting dirt on other peoples glass again, dont you think this could be the case?



And you call yourself a window cleaner!  ;D

I could use the same large green Unger bucket of water all day, and when I finish I could empty the sludge down a drain; and the windows would be fine.  Rather than shake the applicator onto the ground, I'd remove excess water by running my squeegy down it, so the water would run back into the bucket.  I'd also empty the contents of my bucket on a belt back into the main bucket.  It just saved having to refill the bucket.

I've even been too lazy to walk to my bucket to get a 'dip' and stuck my applicator into a dirty puddle to wet it, and the window was cleaned no problems.

Really, to be a good window cleaner, you need to have knowledge of the basic tools and how they work.

I apologise for my sarcasm; I can't help myself!  :P
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: krave on November 26, 2009, 06:51:25 pm
krave what nonsense!!i wash my unger monsoon sleeves every week with my scrims.no problem and one will last YEARS!!doesnt affect water absorbtion at all.u buy a new one EVERY month?wasting ur money in IMO

I buy three at a time and changed my last one a month or so ago. Im not saying what your doing is wrong, I just foud the time I washed mine it went horrible, Couldnt get it fluffy again at all no matter how hard I tried.

Maybe washed it to hot with my scrims.

Saying Im chatting nonsense is a bit extreme for something that I have found.
Again maybe different for you.

I may put it in the wash tonight with my scrims and see the outcome again?!  ???
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: dazmond on November 26, 2009, 06:59:34 pm
KRAVE i just wash my scrims and T MOP sleeves on 40degrees at the end of the week with a v.small amount of washing powder with NO conditioner.sorry didnt mean the nonsence quip.we just all do things different ;) ;D

best wishes

dazmond
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: martinsadie on November 26, 2009, 08:00:12 pm
right this isnt to stir up the war between trad and wfp but using trad only and say doing 20 houses in a day with your mop, doesnt that mean that you are basically transferring the dirt you have took off other houses onto the windows of the remaining houses during the day even though you change the water, my mop is getting dirty and i only use it on very odd ocassions, and im scared its putting dirt on other peoples glass again, dont you think this could be the case?



And you call yourself a window cleaner!  ;D

I could use the same large green Unger bucket of water all day, and when I finish I could empty the sludge down a drain; and the windows would be fine.  Rather than shake the applicator onto the ground, I'd remove excess water by running my squeegy down it, so the water would run back into the bucket.  I'd also empty the contents of my bucket on a belt back into the main bucket.  It just saved having to refill the bucket.

I've even been too lazy to walk to my bucket to get a 'dip' and stuck my applicator into a dirty puddle to wet it, and the window was cleaned no problems.

Really, to be a good window cleaner, you need to have knowledge of the basic tools and how they work.

I apologise for my sarcasm; I can't help myself!  :P
;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: mci services on November 26, 2009, 08:55:23 pm
change the mop every month ::) my last one lasted two years and this one should last longer as ive got wfp now.

anyway its there to disturb the dirt same as a wfp brush does then instead of the rinse you use the blade to remove the dirt simples
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: martinsadie on November 26, 2009, 08:59:57 pm
finally sussed what hes on about he means applicator i bet hes never seen a window cleaning mop  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: krave on November 26, 2009, 09:10:16 pm
KRAVE i just wash my scrims and T MOP sleeves on 40degrees at the end of the week with a v.small amount of washing powder with NO conditioner.sorry didnt mean the nonsence quip.we just all do things different ;) ;D

best wishes

dazmond

Thats cool mate, I boil wash my scrims. And just done the same to the applicator, and it went horrible. Must be where I washed it way too hot lol.

Will give it a try on 40 tonight!!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 26, 2009, 09:17:45 pm
Changing the water regular & washing the mop often make it easier to clean windows,... but once you know what you're doing you could clean windows with mud.
The skill is how you remove the water (or mud) from the glass effectively and completely,...
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: Terry_Burrows on November 27, 2009, 08:26:28 am
 ;D I took water from a pond once ;D  :o
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: Murdie window cleaning on November 27, 2009, 08:35:16 am
Now I know what your meant to do if you get caught short ;D
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: AuRavelling79 on November 27, 2009, 10:05:05 am
Wash some applicator sleeves too hot and they "crinkle up".


Tosh - glad to see you're using puddles instead of urinating on your applicator sleeve like you used to.  ;D
Title: Re: Wee question on trad
Post by: JRDEasiReach on November 27, 2009, 11:56:29 am
Lads it was just a query and tbh it was geared in a slight way to say WFP is better as you dont have this problem  ;D sorry lads couldnt resist it especially atfer toshs post :)