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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: SteveAllan on November 25, 2009, 06:05:02 pm

Title: mad price
Post by: SteveAllan on November 25, 2009, 06:05:02 pm
Passed a cc van today where he was working and outside the house he had a swing board - Carpets cleaned for £15 ANY ROOM.
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Post by: Adam Fearnley on November 25, 2009, 06:07:07 pm
Wow thats crazy
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Post by: daz1977 on November 25, 2009, 06:14:07 pm
true, but if some gets 3 bed house done could easily be £100 a day
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Post by: colin thomas on November 25, 2009, 06:34:33 pm
wake up daz, £100 A DAY!!! go back to filling shelves,

colin    :o
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Post by: Paul_Ashworth on November 25, 2009, 06:36:52 pm
There been leaflets going about Chorley £30.00 for two rooms but they havent been turning up think they have gone bust
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Post by: derek west on November 25, 2009, 06:47:52 pm
take a note of all the houses he's parked out side of when you see him cleaning, then leaflet them when he's gone. they'll want there carpets cleaning very soon. ;D

derek
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Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on November 25, 2009, 06:52:02 pm
wake up daz, £100 A DAY!!! go back to filling shelves,

colin    :o

 :D :D :D
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Post by: daz1977 on November 25, 2009, 07:28:06 pm
it might be someone starting out and doesnt know prices, or just trying to get a load of work, it must work if he is in a house doing it, might not make a lot of money  but could be on dole
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Post by: Mike Halliday on November 25, 2009, 07:37:51 pm
did a quote tonight LR, DR & a BR I quoted £140 (lots of stains and furniture to move) a local company who have been trading 20yrs (10yrs as a Chemdry franchise) told them over the phone £77, they must be stupid, I feel like ringing them and telling them too stop being such idiots.
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Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 25, 2009, 07:58:22 pm
I agree with the pricing issues we have but it may depend on how he's priced it, over the phone the sizes quoted to him may be smaller than you may have seen and he may not have seen or been told about the stains.

Roughly how big were the rooms? (I know you don't price that way)

Shaun
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Post by: Karl Wildey on November 25, 2009, 08:01:22 pm
quoted £140.oo yesterday and lady said she had a lot lower quotes starting at £70, half my price, could be bothered to try and sell, don't need these custards
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Post by: dave123 on November 25, 2009, 08:19:21 pm
There is a company in Kent not far from me and those are the sort of prices he charges .He has 3 guys working for him they do 5 jobs a day each .He pays them 35% of the weeks takings . The cleaners average £680?week and he takes the rest .He drives a Porsche and lives in a £1 million  house .Not bad for a cheapie is it  ;D
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Post by: richy27 on November 25, 2009, 08:25:01 pm
I have noticed a few little ads in local rags 2 carpets for 25 quid or carpet cleaning from £19. I spent all morning in one room with a carpet and 3 ps while they while they were obviously cleaning 16 rooms LOL .

 
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Post by: derek west on November 25, 2009, 08:42:09 pm
everybody on here slags off price shoppers, i don't. ;)

derek
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Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 25, 2009, 08:46:23 pm
Everyone slags of cheap prices but they fill a part of the market, are cheap cleaners as good? probably not as through, you know the little bits what some customers like to see and that's why they choose someone more expensive and prefer the little extras.

Shaun
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Post by: Neil Williams on November 25, 2009, 08:59:59 pm
It used to bother me but not anymore.
Today:
"How much to clean a one bed back to back property?"
"EOT is it?"
"Yes"
"That'll be £90 which includes the vat and you get a letter for your agent to say it's been professionally cleaned etc etc"
"That's far too much, a friend only paid £50 and she has an identical property"
"Well contact your friend for that cleaner because that is what we charge...bye"
 ;D 
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Post by: Joe H on November 25, 2009, 09:08:22 pm
If a friend got it done for £50, they must have rang you hoping to get it for less.  :o
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Post by: Ian Gourlay on November 25, 2009, 09:40:33 pm
I wonder if its like the Airlines over Book each day to make sure you do not get an empty seat.

When I did Double Glazing the theory was have more apointments than you can handle.


So these£15 or half price guys move funiture.

Do you all move beds etc
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Post by: Ian Gourlay on November 25, 2009, 09:44:28 pm
There is a company in Kent not far from me and those are the sort of prices he charges .He has 3 guys working for him they do 5 jobs a day each .He pays them 35% of the weeks takings . The cleaners average £680?week and he takes the rest .He drives a Porsche and lives in a £1 million  house .Not bad for a cheapie is it  ;D

I somtimes think the should be a Very   Very ;D ;D Fastrack Course where they teach this method of operation ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: clinton on November 25, 2009, 09:49:42 pm
The local papers here are full of adverts offering half price carpet cleaning an some have been going for a while ::)
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Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 25, 2009, 09:51:34 pm
I would love to go out cleaning with someone who does this kind of work to pick up these tips I bet they are invalueable and most use a porti which is usually slower.

Shaun
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Post by: Mike Halliday on November 25, 2009, 10:10:33 pm
Shaun the rooms were average 12x14, a lot of furniture to move and the dining room was badly stained

the same company has a 1/4 page full colour ad in the Y/Ps and does 12k lealfets a month. they must be working @ £200/day (on full days) that's for a 2 man team.
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Post by: clinton on November 25, 2009, 10:17:17 pm
Shaun think there was someone who brian new who did this sort of cheap work..

Think he was from glossop or nearabouts ???
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Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 25, 2009, 10:24:05 pm
I did a thru room last month and it was bad, I quoted £96 but when I got there I only had to move a 3pc and a table everything was moved as I had requested over the phone, it took me approx 1 hour from getting in to getting out and i can honestly say it was spotless when I had finished £4 tip made it a round number so not a bad hours work.

Sometimes I look at my charges and think that I charge too much and I know that there are cleaners that charge twice as much or even more but then again I saved them a new carpet which would have cost them easily a grand.

Shaun
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Post by: Jim_77 on November 25, 2009, 10:27:05 pm
Fair play Shaun, they got what they wanted, you got what you wanted, everyone smiling :)

I hit £100/hour for the first time today with my new TM, makes you feel like walking to the nearest police station and handing yourself in doesn't it :D :D
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Post by: Doug Holloway on November 25, 2009, 10:34:16 pm
Hi Guys,

There will always be a wide variety of prices and quality not neccesarily linked.

100 per hour is basic for solicitors handling routine and easy work, 1000 for the more complicated.

Jim,
Don't feel guilty about earning decent money, you have invested in top quality equipment.

Cheers

doug
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Post by: cozy on November 25, 2009, 10:35:43 pm
true, but if some gets 3 bed house done could easily be £100 a day

Daz, Carpet Cleaning isn't an "Add on" 100 quid a day, is not an option. Guys in the window section tend to think alot of things can be bolted on and can earn a few quid. All I can say mate, is carpet cleaning is alot more complicated and isn't something to "Poke with a stick" to see what happens. Compared to WCing, it's silly money.

But you have to know what you are doing. Not everyones game. Not being offensive, just to give you a tip mate. ;)
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Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 25, 2009, 10:37:33 pm
Call the police there's been a robbery ;D

How you finding the TM Jim? upholstery still a bugger but carpets dead easy? not as much aggitation needed?

Shaun
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Post by: andrew christopher on November 25, 2009, 10:40:44 pm


Jim,
Don't feel guilty about earning decent money, you have invested in top quality equipment.

Cheers

doug

Agree with Doug, 20k plus of van and equipment and you need to earn 100 an hour sometimes to make up for some of the crap jobs!


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Post by: clinton on November 25, 2009, 10:45:34 pm
Too right with the smaller crap jobs andrew ;D

We have to earn and also have earn to put some away for when its time to upgrade..
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Post by: andrew christopher on November 25, 2009, 10:50:57 pm
Clinton,

The lioness for me ;D got pay for the 13hp first!
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Post by: clinton on November 25, 2009, 10:52:38 pm
Andrew got one lioness here aready and she spends my money ;D

Bet you will earn that back soon i hear ;)
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Post by: Jim_77 on November 25, 2009, 10:56:24 pm
Doug, I was joking :)

Shaun, yes to a degree... suite cleaning time still not dramatically reduced but only done a few so far since the big switch.  Still having to use a pump-up to prespray loses a bit of time obviously, shame you can't hydroforce a suite (although I bet a few guys here would sheepishly hold their hand up to it!)

The suites I've done have all been ones where before I've needed a lot of prespray/agitation... I've still done the same with the TM because I'm scared it won't rinse off so well and I'll have to start all over :D

I've got the new drimaster tool.  Must say, first time I used it was very impressed although looking back maybe had the pressure a bit high, was a bit damp ???  With the MkII drimaster you're supposed to be able to clean on the push stroke as well aren't you?  I'm sure that's what makes it wetter because only using pull strokes seems a lot drier but then again flushes less.

Admittedly the carpets I did today were pretty much spotless to begin with, just presprayed, waited and rinsed quite fast.  Felt annoyed when I had to squirt some spotter as I worked back out the lounge doorway ;D

Still wrestling with these bloody stiff 2" hoses, sorting myself out to get up to the landing was a bit of a game. (I'll hopefully be getting some nice flexible 2" hose from somewhere when it's back in stock HINT HINT to someone ;) )

Still using my 1.5" wand with a short whip, not got the big bore wand in use yet (hopefully geting a glide for the new wand soon as they're back in stock HINT HINT someone ;D)

Oops sorry hijacked the thread :-x
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Post by: andrew christopher on November 25, 2009, 10:58:51 pm
Andrew got one lioness here aready and she spends my money ;D



Know the feeling!

It eats carpet so must be nearly there! ;)

I dream of empty, collect keys, nylon 3 bedders!  ;D

Actually i dreamed of Shaun ashmore last night telling me to increase the psi on a job but that really is too sad to make public,.

Carpet cleaning is taking over sleep now
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Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 25, 2009, 11:05:49 pm
I still have to pre spray and aggitate upholstery in the same way I always did I can't get good results by just hwe alone, carpets the same, I did once hydraforce a suite and it was wet through but it was so bad just left turbo driers and picked them up later.

Some carpets benefit from machanical aggitation but some don't so I just pre spray those.

Shaun
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Post by: dave123 on November 26, 2009, 07:37:42 am
It's called "bait and switch " Your pricing includes hoovering prespray agitating spotting etc These people charge extra for these things so in actual fact i expect they are not earning much less than you or I. They quote those prices to get their feet in the door . Not rocket science . ;D,
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Post by: Dave_Lee on November 26, 2009, 08:14:03 pm
Jim Neal,
Careful, I got some more flexible 2" hose thinking it would be easier to handle. Problem is its TOO flexible and collapses easily. I dont use it anymore, I just use the Blueline hoses, which once youve experienced the flexible stuff, you appreciatte why they have to be that strong. I now regret selling 100ft of Blueline, when I was expecting delivery of the flexi stuff, I should have held on to them.
Dave.
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Post by: derek west on November 26, 2009, 08:17:02 pm
anyone explain the difference / feel of blueline compared to hydra orange?
derek
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Post by: Neil Williams on November 26, 2009, 10:20:26 pm
I guess we've reached the point where technology hasn't quite caught up with what we wanted.
We wanted 2" suction hose before increased airflow get's better retrieval of solution. I have the 2" blueline which is so rigid that it feels like you're fighting a python. Even when I put the reducer cuff on for using a hand tool that's even more of a fight, so I then end up using 1.5" hose onto it which whilst being more user friendly means you have in effect lost all the benefits of having 2" hose.
Did once manage to roll the transit onto the blueline but it didn't damage it one bit so I guess nothing is going to be 100% perfect.
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Post by: Joe H on November 27, 2009, 08:12:58 am
The more flexi hose I have is doing fine with the Prowler.
I do have some of the stiffer hose too but much prefer the flexi.
The stiffer hose I feel would within stand being run over more then the flexi, but I have to coil the hose up many more times then some vehicle running over it.
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Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on November 28, 2009, 09:57:53 pm
what aload of softys you are

  i can wand without a glide and useing 2inc most only on 50 foot of pipe  :P and im tiny compard to you lot mybe you need to go to the gym more
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Post by: Joe H on November 29, 2009, 08:07:54 am
Susan
Why make a job harder when it can be made easier?
May as well say using a TM makes you a softie, or even a high performance porty.
May as well go back to single vac 40psi machines and get rid of modern cleaning fluids.
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Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 29, 2009, 10:59:33 am
Come on Joe take the joke not the bait.

Did I ever tell anyone I was personallt responsible for bringing the first ever glide into this country?

Shame on me!

Shaun
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Post by: garyfindlay on November 29, 2009, 11:30:52 am
I think you may have mentioned it once or twice or more.......this week !!!!!
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Post by: james roffey on November 29, 2009, 06:42:26 pm
I reluctantly added up my expenses been putting it off a while it came to well over £200 a week and that dont include income tax, so i had a job Friday 3 bedded house came out at £400,
35 per ft client was delighted as carpets looked like new, he was considering replacing took me six hours, so how anyone would be happy earning £100 a day they must be in a different business.
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Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on November 29, 2009, 09:50:58 pm
Susan
Why make a job harder when it can be made easier?
May as well say using a TM makes you a softie, or even a high performance porty.
May as well go back to single vac 40psi machines and get rid of modern cleaning fluids.

why not ??? think ive still got three extracta modle c,s in the unit remeber them joe ?? they great and the vacs lasted for years even when you got them full of rubbish they powered on
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Post by: deep-cleaningukltd on December 04, 2009, 08:31:50 pm
Jim,

Just had to replace a lengh of flexi 2" pipe after (elderly) client decided to try forcing his front door shut when the pipe was under full (triple vac) vacuum. He didn't want his cat (grrrrrr) to get out.

Adrian
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Post by: matt cloud on December 06, 2009, 09:57:14 am
My wife had a phone call on friday from enterprise cleaning offering £ 8.99 per room carpet cleaning, Even i charge her more than that ;) ;D.