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Title: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: carpetfitta on November 16, 2009, 02:08:31 pm
ive jus been called in to restretch the carpet in a huge chinese restaurant in liverpool.last night it was cleaned (not by me!) and today it is approx 2-3 inches shorter in the length.

to add to the problem it is soaking wet everywhere!!!!

because the custy was not advised of shrinkage, and told it would take 3-4 hrs to dry completely.. ive told the custy to speak with the cleaner as regards shrinkage/levels of moisture in the carpet.

has this ever happened to anybody else:
 1.shrinkage by such a large amount.
 2.complaints about soaking wet carpet

and how was it resolved?

i wouldve thought simply advising of shrinkage is enough to cover your back..
and leaving the air movers with the custy would have been a great help
regards barry






 
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: markpowell on November 16, 2009, 04:01:10 pm
Good old Belgian wilton i guess if its shrunk 3" your goona have a job getting it back :o
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Mike Osbourne on November 16, 2009, 04:16:56 pm
I thought you have to wait till dry before stretching it otherwise you could cause damage.
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: clinton on November 16, 2009, 05:20:10 pm
They didnt even check it i guess to see what carpet type it was.Bet it was a cheapo job ::)
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Kinver_Clean on November 16, 2009, 05:27:07 pm
Been there, seen it all before---- Leave them to it. you're on a loser, it will split unless bone dry then you need a GOOD powerstretcher and loads of luck for any degree of sucess.



Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: JandS on November 16, 2009, 06:37:26 pm
Shouldn't be soaking though.

John
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Dave_Lee on November 16, 2009, 06:46:50 pm
They probably paid cheap and got cheap, serves them right. Theres no free lunch they got what they paid for, if they wanted something better they should have been more selective and paid the extra for a true pro. Chances are that whoever did it hasnt got products liabilty cover either, so it will cost them more in the end.
Dave.
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: davep on November 16, 2009, 06:57:08 pm
Come on, who was it?  :P
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Neil Williams on November 16, 2009, 07:39:10 pm
They probably paid cheap and got cheap, serves them right.
Just what I thought ;D

has this ever happened to anybody else:
 1.shrinkage by such a large amount.
 2.complaints about soaking wet carpet
Last year I got called out to a rather posh country hotel where a pipe had leaked all night. When I got there at 10am the shrinkage had started by coming off the grippers. As fast as we worked (2 machines) by 3pm it had shrunk a good 2 inches further. I told them to get hold of a carpet fitter but I did suspect that the only remedy was to fit a new strip or fit some form of wooden batten to hide the gap. I left it to them to decide, it wasn't my problem.
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: daz1977 on November 16, 2009, 09:16:11 pm
if they where chinese then they would of gone for the cheapest they could get,  this might teach them a lesson
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 16, 2009, 09:22:40 pm
Needs a few days for it to relax, I have known them go back to correect size but to be fare I would check for grippers as if they have bought a cheap carpet and had a cheap cleaner it says to me that thye will have not paid for grippers and underlay so there may be knowhere to stretch the carpet to.

Not all Chinese are cheap buyers they do have standards I think it;s because we haven't sold our services properly.

Shaun
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Fraser Thom on November 17, 2009, 07:27:41 pm
if they where chinese then they would of gone for the cheapest they could get, this might teach them a lesson

It always makes me laugh when I read a quote like this, just like it makes me laugh when people say Indian restaurant owners are a nightmare to get cash out of. 

Don't tar everyone with the same brush.  Would you say all Scotsmen are tight? I hope not, it's a common misconception  :)
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on November 17, 2009, 08:35:49 pm
They probably paid cheap and got cheap, serves them right. Theres no free lunch they got what they paid for, if they wanted something better they should have been more selective and paid the extra for a true pro. Chances are that whoever did it hasnt got products liabilty cover either, so it will cost them more in the end.
Dave.

bang on the money there dav
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: daz1977 on November 17, 2009, 08:51:31 pm
all i am going off is my own experiences, i know a few chinese people and they all own chip shops and always go with the cheapest they can find,  i didnt mean to offend any one, i am sorry if i did
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: JandS on November 17, 2009, 08:53:00 pm
Fraser

I get many calls from Asian people mainly Indian or Pakistani.
 

a] They want cheap as in the case  2 days ago - quote £120, woman asks
do you think you could do it for £50.

or

b] Today - 2 beds and lounge, whilst doing it says could you do HSL
while your here, I say I'm pushing it for time but yes, he says good I'll
give you an extra fiver it won't take you long, I say forget it I'm away.

or

c] While your set up could you do the dining room as well, yes that will be £x,
but it won't take you a minute now your here, it will be that price yes or no?
Usually no.

There are some who I have worked for who have been fine but mainly they're
a pain in the ass.
A lot of the properties they send me to are council house rentals that they own
so you can imagine the state. The one I did today I wouldn't of even dreamed
of having them cleaned they where that trashed but I put high prices in when
I hear the accent and if they accept, bingo.

John




Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: davep on November 17, 2009, 09:01:58 pm
 :o
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 17, 2009, 09:12:28 pm
It's true that they want the best for their money I hate customers that when I come to their not so clean home expect too much and you clean 99% of the poo up and then argue the fact that there is one small spot left or the pile hasn't fully lifted.

Shaun
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Fraser Thom on November 18, 2009, 01:52:44 pm
all i am going off is my own experiences, i know a few chinese people and they all own chip shops and always go with the cheapest they can find,  i didnt mean to offend any one, i am sorry if i did

You certainly didn't offend me, Im just offering an alternative point of view.

Fraser
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: clinton on November 18, 2009, 02:03:29 pm
John

Do you find it a hard sell in your area then  ???
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: JandS on November 18, 2009, 02:16:04 pm
Yes sometimes with the Asian community.
Some aren't bothered about the price but
then tend to hassle you for extra work for
free or just an extra fiver.
If I think there just shopping I bang the price up
a bit then if I do get it bingo.

John
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: carpetfitta on November 18, 2009, 02:23:46 pm
mike your right, you cant stretch a wet carpet.

i walked away, ive restretched it since and its fine now.

the carpet cleaners didnt want to know.

to show them what a crappy job theyd paid for...
 i spotted a small area with a warmed spray bottle of ultrapac and left it to dwell for 10 while i stretched the carpet...rinse/extract with my bravo, and damn it came up clean.. they wanted me to do the rest of that area.i told them the carpet cleaners should come back and do it for free..however i ended up replacing that piece of carpet with a new piece seamed into the existing piece...SIMPLZ  as everybody says these days...(not colin!)


so im guessing it was a very cheapo job...
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: daysdeepclean on November 18, 2009, 02:38:33 pm
Yes sometimes with the Asian community.
Some aren't bothered about the price but
then tend to hassle you for extra work for
free or just an extra fiver.
If I think there just shopping I bang the price up
a bit then if I do get it bingo.

John

I quickly learnt to really over inflate the price quite drastically and they barter you down to a price "You're" happy with! I quoted £180 for this one job and the guy (an Indian) bartered me down to £150.... I'd have been happy with £130  ::)
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: clinton on November 18, 2009, 02:40:54 pm
Your right john with the inflate the price mate ;D

Dam hard work by the sounds of it mate..
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Mike Osbourne on November 18, 2009, 03:19:32 pm
There once was two Indian restaurant owners and one says to the other. I'm telling you Manjit beat them down 10-20% these bloody carpet cleaners they all overcharge and I can't understand half they say anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: daysdeepclean on November 18, 2009, 03:45:18 pm
That's probably very true ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: clinton on November 18, 2009, 05:02:19 pm
Mike ;D

true ;D
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: jasonl on November 18, 2009, 05:04:09 pm
Yes manjit ,,, lets go out for an english.
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Joe H on November 18, 2009, 05:44:31 pm
Jason
I wonder if they do?
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: daysdeepclean on November 18, 2009, 05:53:12 pm
Foreigners tend to think our food is bland ??? Can't beat a roast lamb Sunday dinner!

I must say though, I could live on Indian food!!!!
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: Mike Osbourne on November 18, 2009, 06:00:22 pm
When you think thirty years ago the nearest thing you got to exotic was a Vesta boil in a bag LOL

You now have Italian, Chinese, Mexican, Indian, Thai over here and they even let us eat their food.  ;)
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: JandS on November 18, 2009, 06:28:54 pm
A lot of the Asians round here tend to go for Italian if
they fancy a change.

John
Title: Re: restaurant carpet shrinkage
Post by: daysdeepclean on November 18, 2009, 09:21:07 pm
Would you Adam & Eve it....? All this talk about food made me go out for an Indian takeaway and as soon as I walked in (Not my usual takeaway I hasten to add!) the owner said he needs his carpets cleaned.... Bingo.... I quoted him a price and he said it'll have to be after Christmas.... I asked him how many times he'd had it cleaned and he said never, it's only been down 11 months ???

I told him we moved into a brand new house 11 months ago and I'd already cleaned the down stair carpets 2 times ::)

They always seem to let their carpets get bogging down here, in fact in any restaurant, Chinese or Indian, they always have minging carpets...... And they're always a proper barsteward to clean!!!!!