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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on November 03, 2009, 03:12:51 pm
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Which one, The system I have priced is a fitted 650ro two man set up
Prices are
Purefreedom £2550
Ionics £5331
Brodex £4314
Diy (approx) £1200
All setups are very similar except ionics is 500lt tank not 650lt.
Myself I do like the Brodex system, looks good and 3 year warranty, but then there is not much that can go wrong as the pump is probably the only moving part.
The purefreedom, does the job but is too cheap or is it just a good price.
The ionics is the market leader I believe.
I could go DIY, but I am told next year, new regulations are coming in about the fitting of water tanks to vehicles, something about engineers report about safety standards. Lets face it you are carrying a lot of extra weight.
Please give me your pros and cons for each system and what each company is like for after sells etc.
Thanks
Darren
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Personally i would do DIY
you are paying out a lot of money to these companies for a simple set up,
You can go to any engineering/metal work shop and get a cage welded up for around £100.00
and most likely fit it in the van as well.
Darran
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Have you got a price from Concept 2o?
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Who told you about the engineers report - Ionics? Will this apply to builders, couriors, milkmen etc etc?
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Gardiners are due to bring out a crash tested van mount system (hopefully this month) about half the price of Ionics.
As I understand Brodex only have a single baffle fitted in their tanks which would put me of buying one. IMO tanks should have honeycomb baffle.
Pure water fed pole system ltd in Grantham also do decent systems.
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Gardiners are due to bring out a crash tested van mount system (hopefully this month) about half the price of Ionics.
I think Alex has quoted on here about £2800 ?
As I understand Brodex only have a single baffle fitted in their tanks which would put me of buying one. IMO tanks should have honeycomb baffle.
If thats right, maybe they should state it when they go on about crash testing
Pure water fed pole system ltd in Grantham also do decent systems.
Looked at this system looks diy as tank looks like it is just stapped down
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Who told you about the engineers report - Ionics? Will this apply to builders, couriors, milkmen etc etc?
That was Brodems that told me that
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Personally i would do DIY
you are paying out a lot of money to these companies for a simple set up,
You can go to any engineering/metal work shop and get a cage welded up for around £100.00
and most likely fit it in the van as well.
Darran
My son is a welder by trade, so fitting is not a problem, it is just what is best set up and after sales
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Pure water fed pole system have the tank bolted through the chasis. I have one of their systems.
As I understand when brodex crash tested their system they had tank positioned so the baffle was across the van to reduce forward/backward motion, but this does not help stop water from sloshing side to side. Check with Brodex in case they have changed this.
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Have you got a price from Concept 2o?
Aren't they just a franchise company ?
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Purefreedom all the way. They are engineers, thats what has to be your main concern. Coincidentally apart from a DIY job which is likely to invalidate your insurance theyre the cheapest.
Why do the others charge so much I have to ask.
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Pure water fed pole system have the tank bolted through the chasis. I have one of their systems.
As I understand when brodex crash tested their system they had tank positioned so the baffle was across the van to reduce forward/backward motion, but this does not help stop water from sloshing side to side. Check with Brodex in case they have changed this.
Do you think their carsh testing was pointless then and not relevent
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Hi
If its down to customer service do a search on here about Brodex.
I would go trad if they were the only suppler, honest.
Art
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Purefreedom all the way. They are engineers, thats what has to be your main concern. Coincidentally apart from a DIY job which is likely to invalidate your insurance theyre the cheapest.
Why do the others charge so much I have to ask.
My van insurance is with A-plan, which give free wfp insurance but it has to be fitted properly by a wfp company.
I think ionics and Brodems look better than purefreedom , but looks aren't everythink, thank god.
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Hi
If its down to customer service do a search on here about Brodex.
I would go trad if they were the only suppler, honest.
Art
Is it really that bad?
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I could go DIY, but I am told next year, new regulations are coming in about the fitting of water tanks to vehicles, something about engineers report about safety standards. Lets face it you are carrying a lot of extra weight.
Thanks
Darren
i wonder who told you that, a salesperson :P
if you can do DIY then you save yourself money, you understand how it works when / if you have breakdowns / faults etc etc
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Pure water fed pole system have the tank bolted through the chasis. I have one of their systems.
As I understand when brodex crash tested their system they had tank positioned so the baffle was across the van to reduce forward/backward motion, but this does not help stop water from sloshing side to side. Check with Brodex in case they have changed this.
Do you think their carsh testing was pointless then and not relevent
It must be better than nothing, but I would not fit a tank that had only a single baffle. For all that money they could at least baffle the tank properly
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Hi
If its down to customer service do a search on here about Brodex.
I would go trad if they were the only suppler, honest.
Art
Is it really that bad?
Search away my friend.
Art
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Pure water fed pole system have the tank bolted through the chasis. I have one of their systems.
As I understand when brodex crash tested their system they had tank positioned so the baffle was across the van to reduce forward/backward motion, but this does not help stop water from sloshing side to side. Check with Brodex in case they have changed this.
Do you think their carsh testing was pointless then and not relevent
It must be better than nothing, but I would not fit a tank that had only a single baffle. For all that money they could at least baffle the tank properly
Good point, as safety is the one of the most important things, isn't that why we are all converting to wfp in first place
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Hi
If its down to customer service do a search on here about Brodex.
I would go trad if they were the only suppler, honest.
Art
Is it really that bad?
Search away my friend.
Art
Art , I have searched and it doesn't look good
Darren
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Pure water fed pole system have the tank bolted through the chasis. I have one of their systems.
Sorry, checked again and their top spec system is bolted down, but is over £4500 for one man set up
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Hi
If its down to customer service do a search on here about Brodex.
I would go trad if they were the only suppler, honest.
Art
Is it really that bad?
Search away my friend.
Art
Art , I have searched and it doesn't look good
Darren
To be fair not everyone would pour hiss on them but you are not getting a bargin here couple that with the fact their customer care is so poor would certainly rule them out for me.
Purefreedom although cheaper and like gardiners, never seem to get any bad posts
Art
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Have you considered using a static system to fill your van. Some suppliers charge a lot extra to mount RO etc in van.
IMO it is nicer to have the RO as part of a static set-up if this is an option for you.
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Have you considered using a static system to fill your van. Some suppliers charge a lot extra to mount RO etc in van.
IMO it is nicer to have the RO as part of a static set-up if this is an option for you.
Have thought about this but I knocked my garage down about 3 years ago (which i gained access by a dirt track at side of my house) , to put up 2 big summer houses. One of the summer house is used as garden shed but could contain a static system but my van would be parked about 70 meters away at front of house when transfering water, bit far I think
darren
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Have you got a price from Concept 2o?
Aren't they just a franchise company ?
Not at all, you can just buy a system, you don't have to go down the franchise route with them.
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Have you got a price from Concept 2o?
Aren't they just a franchise company ?
Not at all, you can just buy a system, you don't have to go down the franchise route with them.
Spoke to Julie at Concept 2o, very nice lady, seems to know every thing about wfp, she is going to email price but expecting in region of £7000. But definately good system and good back up.
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pure freedom.
no agro ,ready to go and a good system.
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pure freedom.
no agro ,ready to go and a good system.
HERE HERE! No problems with these boys....top notch!
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Hi
I am in a similar position to you shopping around for a system, i have come across this and will be getting in touch with them myself. if you search them there is no negative comments and it seems to be a one man band,
http://www.pure-efect.co.uk/contact-us.html
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Hi
I am in a similar position to you shopping around for a system, i have come across this and will be getting in touch with them myself. if you search them there is no negative comments and it seems to be a one man band,
http://www.pure-efect.co.uk/contact-us.html
Have you spoke to them and had a price yet?
Anyone know anything about pure-efect
Thanks
Darren
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Hi
i came across this so thought its worth a chat to see what he is offering
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2008, 10:47:51 AM »
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Ive never bought any thing from Brodex and I live on the same bridge as them, there is no need to pay over the odds. I have had quotes from them before. Mike at pure efect set me up far cheaper than they could. Mike works by himself, has more knowledge than anyone when it comes to systems. He gives us continual support whenever we need it, more than happy to help you with any quieries etc. We have a 2000ltr RO system at our premises, a 800ltr system on one van with a second one being in the process of being fitted. Mike has also built us a 400ltr box trailor mounted system. I cannot recommend him enough.
Russell Wright
RD Wright Limited
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Re: Brodex
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2008, 02:42:09 PM »
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I have just spoke to Mike, sounds like a nice bloke and very clocked on, very much on the ball. It confirms what you guys have said about him. I now know who to speak to if I do have a problem with my equipment. As I am looking to purchase further accessories, I will be giving my business to someone who has genuine after sales care and not to someone who claims to care.
So I would like to recommend Mike from Pure Effect to others!
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Hi
i came across this so thought its worth a chat to see what he is offering
Re: Brodex
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2008, 02:42:09 PM »
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I have just spoke to Mike, sounds like a nice bloke and very clocked on, very much on the ball. It confirms what you guys have said about him. I now know who to speak to if I do have a problem with my equipment. As I am looking to purchase further accessories, I will be giving my business to someone who has genuine after sales care and not to someone who claims to care.
So I would like to recommend Mike from Pure Effect to others!
Could be promising
I will try to phone tommorrow to get price e.t.c
Thanks
Darren
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i went down the diy route , why spend more ? regards alan
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at the end of the day they all do the same thing, there are so many places to buy RO units and DI filters these days. Pure water is pure water and your customers wont see any difference from one system to another, i think it really boils down to wether or not your bothered about crash testing or not, if not then DIY and save yourself alot of money you could spend on say a gutter vac or jetwasher.
i have several van mounted systems i got from ionic in brand new vans, and i can say that the next one will be in a second hand van and either a diy system or a cheaper company puting it in, anything else is a waste of money.
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Darren,
The nice thing about diy is when it goes wrong you have a good understanding of what to do to put it right.
All systems are much the same, tank, pump valve, reel and pole. Plus the savings made means you can afford to buy spares of most items limiting any down time.
Art.
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Hi Darren
Just had a good chat with Mike at Pure-efect great bloke to speak to, not a bit pushy gave me some good advice and a good price to. For a 650 system about £2500 fitted and will even fit on a sat morning. I am not quite ready to buy yet and have looked at a lot of different systems and i am going to go up to have a chat with him when i am in the area, but he's the one that will get my bussiness.
dave
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Hi Darren
Just had a good chat with Mike at Pure-efect great bloke to speak to, not a bit pushy gave me some good advice and a good price to. For a 650 system about £2500 fitted and will even fit on a sat morning. I am not quite ready to buy yet and have looked at a lot of different systems and i am going to go up to have a chat with him when i am in the area, but he's the one that will get my bussiness.
dave
Thanks dave, I didn't have time to phone today,but will phone tomorrow, did that include poles e.t.c
Thanks
Darren
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I totally agree with Lee from Pryors. I have an Ionics system fitted in a Renault Trafic and only the front two bolts are through the chassis,due to the frame work on the back of the tank,the brackets don't line up with the chassis,therefore the back two are bolted through the floor. So i guess a crash test is only as good as the alignment of the tank to the chassis. Would my van perform as well in a crash test as some old Transit?