Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jouk45 on October 29, 2009, 10:51:29 pm
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ok i have made the prototype automatic pole hose cleaner, took it out on a test drive today, it was a success, brilliant, kept the tubing clean, no dirt passed up into my pole, and it was damp today, my hose was on wet soil, sawdus,t from decking grass, mud, it kept everything retained, this is only the first day, i will give it a week or 2 , if all goes well then i will have them made,
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ok i have made the prototype automatic pole hose cleaner, took it out on a test drive today, it was a success, brilliant, kept the tubing clean, no dirt passed up into my pole, and it was damp today, my hose was on wet soil, sawdus,t from decking grass, mud, it kept everything retained, this is only the first day, i will give it a week or 2 , if all goes well then i will have them made,
if you need any other testers let me know Joe ;)
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i will keep you in mind ian, to show how much i trust the device, i fitted it to my new sl-x pole that i used for the first time today, i was taken no chances of dirt getting between the sections, i will only use it on the sl-x and i will report back good or bad, lets hope it keeps working like it did today ;D
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Nice one, keep us informed. ;)
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Nice one, keep us informed. ;)
will do macmac, i forgot also to mention, the device can be fine tuned (adjusted) from 5mm to 10mm, for precise cleaning 8)
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Nice one, keep us informed. ;)
will do macmac, i forgot also to mention, the device can be fine tuned (adjusted) from 5mm to 10mm, for precise cleaning 8)
Sounds like a synthetic sphincter!! ;D
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lol ;D
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Nice one, keep us informed. ;)
will do macmac, i forgot also to mention, the device can be fine tuned (adjusted) from 5mm to 10mm, for precise cleaning 8)
I'll buy one of those Joe!
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Excellent! Very much looking forward to it. :)
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sounds good you can put me down for three ;D
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Bump for awesomeness.
Can't wait to see how this even looks like. Sounds like an answer to one very big issue with wfps. :D
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Bump for awesomeness.
Can't wait to see how this even looks like. Sounds like an answer to one very big issue with wfps. :D
i dont think it would be anything you would imagine tim, it is an unusual design, today i put it under some real conditions, countryside work, slimmy paving damp moss, mole mountains, muddy tramped on grass, tractor track mud, all stayed out of the pole, i am looking for faults to happen, or somthing to go wronge, its early days yet, if it keeps up with this kind of results over the 2 week testing period, i will be really pleased
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Does the hose fall back out of the pole when collapsing Jo, or do you need to pull it out of the base?
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Is this thread a wind up?
No but it's only for pro's. ;)
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Oh, I solved this problem sometime ago, that’s why I thought it was a wind up.
You going to spill then dude?
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Oh, I solved this problem sometime ago, that’s why I thought it was a wind up.
You going to spill then dude?
Of course macmac, just that I cant believe nobody has done this before I did it after I noticed the incredible amount of ware on the SL-X pole sections. It pretty much stopped that sort of ware from the day I attached it.
That's impressive.
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What a gent! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I take it you attached a stamp and lable to it and sent it back to the supplier Ewan?
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Grammer Ewan! You mean flawed! Anyway,spill the beans please :)
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the more competiion the better ewan, i have no problems with anyone coming up with new ideas, all i can say is that velcro is not in my invention, mines you just put it on and you forget it is there, you carry on with your normal routin, and the device does it all for you ;D
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Does the hose fall back out of the pole when collapsing Jo, or do you need to pull it out of the base?
you do nothing ftp, the pole works as normal at any height, the device does it all for you, you wont even know it is there, and no grit or dirt gets the chance to pass,
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ewan, it is good that you have come up with a solution, i would be crazy if i thought i was the only one to be working on this problem, i love to see other members especialy a w/c coming up with a great idea, i am working on a professional product that folk can buy of the shelf, most would rather buy than do diy methods, hopfully this product will meet that criteria, early days yet but i am very confident, why did you not share this before ewan, all i have seen posted regular is dirt on the pole hose on all the forums,
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if someone can come up with a solution to clean off dog (,@p-) off main hose this would be a very good product
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no ewan. i am 100% w/c i just love solving problems as a hobbie,
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So Ewan when you collapse your pole how does the hose drop through the wrapped velcro?
You wouldn't be telling little porkies again would you?
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if someone can come up with a solution to clean off dog (,@p-) off main hose this would be a very good product
mines will remove dog sh%* from the hose, mines has an opening if you ad a little soap solution, this way is available, i have thought of every think possible, but i have yet to pick up dog mess yet, i keep avoiding it ;D habit i suppose
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no ewan. i am 100% w/c i just love solving problems as a hobbie,
A little confused, how will people be able to buy your product?
i will sell it direct to wfp suppliers who then sells to wfp w/c
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..................... and the velcro doesn't even go up inside the base cap and jam?
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So Ewan when you collapse your pole how does the hose drop through the wrapped velcro?
You wouldn't be telling little porkies again would you?
It doesn’t ftp,
If you put the Velcro on the 8mm hose (firm) place near the base cap, when you extend the pole, the hose will easily pass through the Velcro all the grit will fall away, no grit will get in between the sections.
When you collapse the pole the Velcro will be on the hose where you extended to, just slide it back up to the base cap.
(Father Christmas told me this ftp)
ah mines is permenent ewan, still it is a good idea, but as ftp says it will jam in the hole unless you have several rolls around it to stop it going through the hole
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I'm actually quite impressed with Ewans theory believe it or not :o
I was going to do something similar with a brush shaped in a ring. The problem was sliding it back to the beginning every time the pole was used which could even be in between windows of a property. The same thing would happen with the velcro, plus you would need a fair sized diameter of it to stop it disappearing up the base cap hole.. Can't wait to see Jo's idea.
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ftp its all great me having the prototype and it works great, so far, the problen now is turning it into a nicely dressed product, and that costs lots of money to produce them, does anyone know duncan blantyre ;D
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ftp its all great me having the prototype and it works great, so far, the problen now is turning it into a nicely dressed product, and that costs lots of money to produce them, does anyone know duncan blantyre ;D
Have a word with AlexG, you might come to some kind of deal.
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So Ewan when you collapse your pole how does the hose drop through the wrapped velcro?
You wouldn't be telling little porkies again would you?
It doesn’t ftp,
If you put the Velcro on the 8mm hose (firm) place near the base cap, when you extend the pole, the hose will easily pass through the Velcro all the grit will fall away, no grit will get in between the sections.
When you collapse the pole the Velcro will be on the hose where you extended to, just slide it back up to the base cap.
(Father Christmas told me this ftp)
That's a good, simple, effective idea dude, thanks for sharing it. ;)
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Jouk I did mention it can be (permanently) attached to the pole the Velcro principal is the same if you fix it to the pole, I’m sure a man of your means can work out how this is achieved, little more complex than just putting a wrap of Velcro on the 8mm hose, but still remarkably simple solution.
No ftp, read my previous post wrap the Velcro larger than the 17mm (or any other size) hole on the base cap, the hose slides easily through the Velcro, there is no tugging you won’t even notice you have Velcro on the hose about 20mm x 30mm in size, weighs 3 grams and a 9 inch strip of Velcro only cost pennies. You will notice you have less wear and no grit in between the sections of your pole.
ewan, if you put a pic up of it, folk will understand how you do it, i know what you have done, as i can picture it
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Click on 'REPLY' click on 'ADDITIONAL OPTIONS' click on 'BROWSE' locate the image file you want to post on here click 'OPEN' then finally click on 'POST'
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I never actually believed you were a window cleaner before Ewan! 1000 apologies!
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Ewan, with one fell stroke of the keyboard you have cut down your doubters. ;D
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thats a good pic ewan, simple but effective, but it does have its limitations, but if you need a quick fix that would be the answer. you can use an aquaruim hollow tube filter to do the same thing, and becouse it is porous, you can ad a soapy solution to clean it as it goes through,
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ftp its all great me having the prototype and it works great, so far, the problen now is turning it into a nicely dressed product, and that costs lots of money to produce them, does anyone know duncan blantyre ;D
Unless you could broaden the market for this, licensing could be a better way.
Just forget about it and let the pound roll in here and there.
For such a limited market that wfp is, setting up the manufacturing process yourself could be a white elephant.
Could it be adapted to garden hose reels? To my hosereel of microbore? I would buy one if it could easily be retrofitted to my hoze make hose reel.
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yes your right mark, unless it can be made cheap enough to sell on ebay and forums ect, mark do you mean attached to the hose reel to remove all dirt as it is reeling in
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yes your right mark, unless it can be made cheap enough to sell on ebay and forums ect, mark do you mean attached to the hose reel to remove all dirt as it is reeling in
Yes.
Also, hozelock reels are standard sizes and if there was an add on that could be fixed easily to this type of reel, it could broaden your market to anyone with a hosereel.
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Jo, I think the main thing here is buying your parts in bulk from a trade shop, so that when you sell your product you have as much of a profit as possible. Also, I would just set up a eBay shop, easy and cheap.
As for patenting it, if you use off the shelf items, that might be tricky, not to mention costly.
I would definitely have a chat with Alex about it, see where that gets you. He has got some good ideas, and is very honest etc.
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At the moment I am in the usa, I went fishing for catfish today, when I went to the local store to get some bait they were also selling the line eyes that you feed the fishing line though.
These come in various sizes and they weigh next to nothing, so when I come back next week I will fix them to the collars on the slx, which should solve the problem of the dirt sticking the poles together.
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The problem with the velcro solution would be a) pushing it back up 30' of pole hose evry time you have extended the pole and b) if fixed to the pole it won't allow the hose to fall away when you collapse it. I still think a brush of some kind might do the job with the least resistance.
The foam tubes would give similar problems and probably wear pretty fast. Good ideas though - keep them coming!
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Jo, I think the main thing here is buying your parts in bulk from a trade shop, so that when you sell your product you have as much of a profit as possible. Also, I would just set up a eBay shop, easy and cheap.
As for patenting it, if you use off the shelf items, that might be tricky, not to mention costly.
I would definitely have a chat with Alex about it, see where that gets you. He has got some good ideas, and is very honest etc.
i have spoken to alex tim, he has asked me to keep him updated
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Think ewans idea is good solution, I might put my protecta ball to the top as when I got my slx this was at the bottom but moves up any way due to not having any thing tokeep it in place. Think that when Alex puts these on he should put a O ring before and after (sorry off subject)
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Zip tie will stop it moving.
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Think ewans idea is good solution, I might put my protecta ball to the top as when I got my slx this was at the bottom but moves up any way due to not having any thing tokeep it in place. Think that when Alex puts these on he should put a O ring before and after (sorry off subject)
I found the ball to wear to quick to stop all the bits going up the pole, so next idea welcome
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ok i tried out ewans method of the velcro pole cleaner, in princple it does work, but will not hold all the grit back, becouse it is impossible to make it to tight, but never the less it does work, but did need a little improving to make it more workable, especialy lowering the pole, and not having to retreive it all the time, i have videoed a big improvment, again kept simple, i will put the video up tonight
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here is the video, i tested it out tonight for several hours, works every time, you can always ad a bit of velcro to the handle and rolled velco to keep it in place when not in use hope that helps
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Looks very good.
Just wondering, can you actually use the butt end of the pole to put it on the floor with your invention? It doesn't seem like it would work with your modified Ewanator.
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What about something like this Jo?
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yes my idea has that facility available, with ewans idea, just ad velcro to both sides for when you want to put it out of the way,
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i have that and tried it, it dont work, memtech is who i dealt with for them, i have all sizes
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my idea is completley difrent, i tip, it has to have a moving part or it wont work correctly, ;D
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where is this video?
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i just added it to the other topic lol