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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: andyatkinson on April 26, 2009, 07:43:22 am
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just wonderin not got any probs at mo but wondered after years of trad what can we expect later in life ie arthritis etc from a soaking wet leg under bucket on belt all day every day?
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Andy,
Been going 20 years (with a couple of years break) Only thing I ever got on a regular basis was some sort of inflamation in my shoulder muscles.
Doc gives me antibiotics for a couple of weeks and it's gone. I get it from wet cloths over the shoulder.
I know alot of windies that are over 50, still going strong.
The only real pains are the ones you get on this forum. ;D
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ime one of the over 50 s ;D
best advice i can give is cod liver oil with omega 6 or 3
eat plenty of sardines ,mackerel salmon tuna
you have to like fish though ;)
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In that case Mike, beer must be good because I drink loads and I eat loads of pizza, haven't got any aches and pains, so that must be just as good as fish ;D
DRINK MORE BEER!!
You know it makes sense. 8)
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sounds like a damn good remedy
trouble is one pint and ime ,as a rat
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i think in the long run wfp will be worse for your body than trad
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In that case Mike, beer must be good because I drink loads and I eat loads of pizza, haven't got any aches and pains, so that must be just as good as fish ;D
DRINK MORE BEER!!
You know it makes sense. 8)
I'm going to try that with my wife, don't recon she will go for it though!
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its the nee that gets it trad i kowe of sevrill with kackerd nees
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Ive had Tennis elbow for around 18 months tried everything including beer!!! ;D
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i think it's definetly the knees
gut i use to work for just given up had to have new knees
he'd been doing 35yrs window cleaning trad.
but also know w/c who's nearly 70 and been doing for 18 yrs trad.
he use to be good footballer and suffered lot of knee grief
he actually reckons his knees are alot better since being w/c ???
i think it's luck of the draw
i think if you keep to your fighting weight this is the best you can do.
being overweight causes extra wear and tear on back and joints :(
i'm 6ft and weigh 14-14.5 stone i reckon i'm a good stone over :P
i'm wfp and do suffer with acheing lower back this is due to trolley system(lifting barells)
my setup is at my parents and have to load barrels; 10 of into my escort van(can't park on front :'()
just bought sack trolley as was too much carrying.
Can't wait to move into a bigger house, but can't afford bigger house until earning more, van mount system, can't get van mount till i move
;catch 22 ;D
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Ive had Tennis elbow for around 18 months tried everything including beer!!! ;D
Stop playing tennis.... Ha Ha
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In that case Mike, beer must be good because I drink loads and I eat loads of pizza, haven't got any aches and pains, so that must be just as good as fish ;D
DRINK MORE BEER!!
You know it makes sense. 8)
It was the beer that has caused me the only on-going injury I have...a pulled Achilles tendon.
About a month ago in Gravesend peeing it up with some mates, we all came out the boozer drunk as lords and yours truely (for reasons unknown) decided to jump over the 2ft wall in the carpark...6ft drop the other side!
Went to the Doctors and he said not much can be done except to rest it as much as possible...in this job?...yeah righto ::)
The only other time I've hurt myself was tripping over a plant pot and twisting my ankle.
I suspect that RSI is more likely with wfp.
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Ive had Tennis elbow for around 18 months tried everything including beer!!! ;D
Stop playing tennis.... Ha Ha
Was a good exuse to the missus for me to buy a hot-tub for the garden for my AHEM treatment everynight lol
that does help alot with my tennis elbow being honest
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Where do I start ;D Got really bad tennis elbow in my left poling right handed. Imagine the action. I now swap between left & right handed and it's slowly getting less sore. Lots of trad gives me shoulder pain. Basically it's a very hard job on the body due to the repetitive nature of the actions both wfp and trad. Still love it though ;D
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Golfers-Tennis elbow,
1,Use a SL modular pole for all the work you can.
2,See a pysio and get them to work on the rear shoulder muscles and upper back muscles 9-10 it`s because the muscles are seized in the shoulder and back that it ends up in the elbow rather than being the elbow itself.
3,If it comes on at all wear a golfers elbow strap and i mean whenever it starts to play up.
4,Get an elbow support strap and wear it in bed on the arm effected,these are not the same as golfers elbow straps they support the upper arm and forearm,i found during the night i`d wake up with my arm under the pillow and this would really start it off and make it worse from the minute i woke up.
5,It will get better if you have phisio and stick with the above believe me i had it bad for over a year and with the above research it`s almost coming to an end.
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Another thing which also really helped was going back to Microbore from minibore,i could not believe how much difference it made on the elbows,there is a big difference in feel if not weight of the 2 hoses especially when reeling in,try it you`ll be surprised.
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i can confirm after 14 yrs of trad with a 10 year break my knees are shot to pieces
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Gets better, use ight poles. F16 emporium sl2
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wfp may weken your joints, but ladders can kill yer ;D
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i can confirm after 14 yrs of trad with a 10 year break my knees are shot to pieces
I thought you were actively getting trad. trippy?
As said above - luck of the draw and weight.
When I was trad I started off at 6ft and 16 stones (back in 1996) aged 37.
My knees ached. I slowly lost weight to about 13 st 7lb and the pain went away (well 35lbs less is a big drop!)
Went to wfp 4 years ago (trolley plus Unger twist lock ali poles) - no aches from barrel lifting or pole use but aches in the hands due to twisting the clamps on the pole.
Went to fishing pole - so much lighter - no clamps - no aches at all.
Weight crept up to 14st 7lb and the knee aches came back (no ladder work now mind) and have now dropped back under 14st and the aches have gone. (Aiming for 13st now).
Bought an SLX six weeks ago and for the first week used it in it's entirety (5 sections) - and it was heavier than the fishing pole (as on that I only used the sections needed of course) and I got the odd ache. Now use the SLX on 3 or 4 sections for most of my work and it is pain free.
I'm now 50 and feel fit. But luck of the genes comes into it I'm sure - neither of my parents suffered with joint/muscle probs (Just Cancer, Heart disease and diabetes! ;D)
Oh - I also cycle a bit for fitness sake as well - about 30 miles a week in two sessions of about an hour each.
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my fingers get arthrites. counting all the lolly ;D
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I got out of the van last Thursday when I had finished, as soon as I stood up I was aware of a deep ache all the way down the back of my left leg. I'm fine when sitting, but as soon as I put any weight on it the pain comes back. I phoned my daughter [ a physio] who outlined a few possibilities. I decided to make a very rare for me doctors appointment as I once had a DVT after flying to Indonesia.
Guess what? I managed to get through after 20 minutes, only to be told that all appointments for today had been taken, and this is at 9am at a large medical practice.
Ah well back to work if it stops raining.
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A local window cleaner went to his doctor last Christmas complaining with abdominal pain. they concluded there was nothing wrong with him, they found him dead on the kitchen floor two weeks ago, he was 57.
And the cuts haven't started to bite yet.
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Dai, good luck with the nhs. Until just before xmas 2008 i had similar pain. I'd put up with it for around 16 months before i went to doctors.
I stretch most days and considered myself fairly flexible.
Was offered painkillers and that but it wasn't my style.
I was given an appointment with a physio. Well i got 1 1/4 hours of her time but not once did she touch me.
Most of it was looking and then printing out sheets of paper with exercise i should do. The last 10 minutes was trying to convince her that i was beyond doing these exercises cos of the pain. No good.
I'd never felt so underwhelmed and helpless in my life. She could offer nothing else beyond paperwork. >:(
A week later i saw a massage woman. She clocked by the end that i had a raised hip and tried pushing my leg back up towards my hip.
She also told me it was work related and i'm lifting something daily with bad technique. (I had used a mark 1 freedom trolley until then.)
I felt 80% better afterwards and could walk pain free.
I swapped to using hosereel and van mount and within a couple of weeks i was back to normal.
Anyway, the moral of this tale is if you are going to see a physio, see your daughter.
Unless i just looked untouchable, you won't get any hands on help looking for the problem.
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Also about 5 months ago i was using sl2 at 40 ft along the sea front and a gust of wind almost took it out of my hands.
I managed to keep hold of it and lowered it properly but i felt something twinge in my elbow.
I try alternating but my elbow has been tender ever since.
I might try acupuncture this time around when i get myself into gear.
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does anyone think the wet leg thing from bucket on belt could cause anything?
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Dunno but a tap on the knee might cure it.
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does anyone think the wet leg thing from bucket on belt could cause anything?
dont use one the wet leg puts me off ;D
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Dunno but a tap on the knee might cure it.
; ;D ;DD just read that and burst out laughing whilst on the phone!
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Ever since I started I find my hands ache on the days I don't work.
I also get 'trigger finger' my finger locks closed and I have to pull my finger to open it, makes some sick-making clicks.
Course I get the kids to pull my finger for a different reason. ;D
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does anyone think the wet leg thing from bucket on belt could cause anything?
i reckon you got a hole in your boab ;)
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what does boab stand for ???
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what does boab stand for ???
your winding me up :o
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I promise you I'm not.
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alltogether now
bucket on a belt ;D ;D ;)
hope that helps simon
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Tut..silly old me ;D
Cheers
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does anyone think the wet leg thing from bucket on belt could cause anything?
i reckon you got a hole in your boab ;)
;D
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i think in the long run wfp will be worse for your body than trad
You should work for the HSE ;D, tripping over a hose has got to be worse than falling from a ladder!
youre not reading the post proper again Ewan, were not on about accidents but wear and tear on your body after several years
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it mite be prostat probs this wet leg thingy
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it mite be prostat probs this wet leg thingy
i thought it was just when they couldnt find a bush ;D ;D
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Well my problem must have been sciatica, had a day off yesterday to give it a bit of rest, worked today without the slightest twinge. It's hard to believe after the pain I was in over the weekend.
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it mite be prostat probs this wet leg thingy
i thought it was just when they couldnt find a bush ;D ;D
I read that to have a healthy prostate you need to "find a bush" on a regular basis! (That's what I tell my wife anyway! ;D)