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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 09, 2009, 09:24:51 pm

Title: Most used search term
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 09, 2009, 09:24:51 pm
What is it for carpet cleaners?

I always use carpet cleaner -------- but is there a way of finding out which is the most used?

I'd have guessed that your URL will position you well for this as I have bought www.carpetcleaningsheffield.co.uk (nothing on it yet)

Pondering if it's a greater benefit in the name or is there a better search term, like www.qualitycarpetcleaninginsheffield.co.uk or is .com just as good?

Shaun
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 09, 2009, 09:39:59 pm
will that be .com then?

Shaun
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Mike Osbourne on March 09, 2009, 09:44:15 pm
 ;D

I tried a domain CC area quality but I think it dilutes the phrase with google. .co.uk defo and ideally a UK hosted domain.

You can use the odd dash if the obvious is taken but too many and you get hit.

re name vs cc area have both  :)
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 09, 2009, 09:45:40 pm
So ideally what are you looking for in a name?

Shaun
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Mike Osbourne on March 09, 2009, 09:49:59 pm
I mean have a domain which is your company name so people who know you can find you and have one that relates to the phrase most search on for CC in your area. But of course there are lots of niche  phrases that all add up. Maybe this is where adwords comes into it. ???
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Jim Gibbard on March 09, 2009, 10:20:37 pm
will that be .com then?

Shaun
No Shaun, It's   .condom  ;D

From my experiences, I would say that a URL ( domain name ) including the city/town you wish to target, also .com rather than .co.uk will rank higher in search engines, "eventually", it will not happen over night.  It is a complex subject, "Search Engine Optimisation" with many theories being bounced around.  Plus, I read that hyphen's should count against you in ranking.  Having said that,  my website ( www.spic-n-span.co.uk ) is well positioned as far as searches on spic n span are concerned.  Believe me, there are internet marketers who spend most of their waking hours trying to crack the "Google Code".

Jim
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 09, 2009, 10:23:24 pm
And then they go and change it!

So ideally I my www.carpetcleaningsheffield.co.uk is a good one, are there any sites that can offer most used search terms?

Shaun
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Mike Osbourne on March 09, 2009, 10:30:42 pm
Have you played with adwords Shaun, there are suggestions there unless you want to fork out a few hundred quid.

You can do all this stuff but ultimately it boils down to quality backlinks as far as I can see, which isn't quite as exciting. >:(
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Jim Gibbard on March 09, 2009, 11:11:19 pm
Shaun,
I have just checked out your site sheffieldcleaning.com and it is very well placed if not top for a number of search terms and it is a .com.  I searched carpet cleaner sheffield and I think you were top or very close to top position.
You can not improve much on that.  Your site is not bad either.  I think that the big problem is a genuine lack of interest in people looking to have cleaning work done.  When purse strings tighten, cleaning is one of the first luxuries to go, ( yes!!! some people look on cleaning as as luxury item. ) 

I have just used  a research tool which tells me there are less than 30 searches a month for carpetcleaningsheffield.
But the competion is not great.  Only 1 adwords advertiser - SheffieldChemDry.co.uk.  But there is not much point doing adwords if you are already near the top of the search engines.

CarpetCleaningSheffield.com is owned by a company called AXIS, which you probably already know.  However, the website is poor and only uses a mobile phone number. 

IMO I don't think you can do much more, other than enlarging your target area.

Jim
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Mike Osbourne on March 09, 2009, 11:15:51 pm
Jim

What's the name of the software you use?
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Jim Gibbard on March 09, 2009, 11:30:49 pm
Mike,
The software is some I bought recently to help with my Internet Marketing.  It gives a lot of useful information for Internet Marketers in their research for profitable income streams.  If you want to look at it, it is
here:   It is called Micro Niche Finder ---     http://blackcink.kickbutt.hop.clickbank.net/

However, you can look for nothing to find out what it can do, but probably for your purposes you can grab the free tools from google:

http://www.google.com/sktool/#

https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

Jim
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Mike Osbourne on March 09, 2009, 11:37:03 pm
Thanks Jim

Yeah for CC it's not worth it.

I downloaded SEOtools for Flock and that's quite informative, but not sure info helps improve rankings.
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: clinton on March 10, 2009, 07:58:22 am
Where is the best place to buy domain names guys ???

Just what happens if you did buy a site and another company has it was well ???

Just as am not sure where to go for this service and is it like buying a car regestration number ???

cheers
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: derek west on March 10, 2009, 08:20:01 am
http://www.123-reg.co.uk

just bought 2 leather ones from there, and 2 carpet ones.
£6 for 2 years per domain, .co.uk
derek
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: suffolkclean on March 10, 2009, 09:46:27 am
Hi Clinton, you won't beable to buy a domain name which has already been bought by someone else. It will give you options of a similar one which are available if yours has been bought already.

Theres lots of companies that do it just search 'domain name' on google once on the website do a search for your preferred domain name and it'll show you if its available.

Barbara
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 10, 2009, 12:06:03 pm
Thanks Jim

also what about carpet cleaner sheffield and carpet clean sheffield?

Really am picking your brains now ;D

Shaun
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: derek west on March 10, 2009, 02:12:01 pm
carpetcleanersheffield.co.uk is available, (£5.98 for 2 years, be quick)you want a .co.uk as .com takes longer to registar on the uk google network.
derek
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: David Ware on March 10, 2009, 02:36:42 pm
Shaun it depends on the local population as to what words they use. Coloureds use the words washing carpets (not cleaning).Not sure of the Yorkshire term.

David Ware
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: clinton on March 10, 2009, 04:27:01 pm
Thanks derek and barbara :)

Ok going to buy a few names then just didnt want to buy some if there duplicated. :)
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 10, 2009, 05:56:54 pm
I think I'm curious about it more than anything else can't see the point of loading sheffield with my websites 2 is enough, just wondering more than anything what the No1 search term was either carpet cleaners ---- or carpet cleaning ----- or carpet cleaners ----- etc etc

Perhaps Jim may give us more information.

Shaun
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: clinton on March 10, 2009, 06:17:22 pm
Shaun

You wont want any more for your area mate.

I know what you mean though as am in the same boat and getting 1 for my area as well as the larger area cheshire thats getting me work :)
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 10, 2009, 06:27:20 pm
Looking to cut area down actually and concentrate on Sheffield I have a bigger plan on my future 'it's called taking it a bit easier'

Shaun
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Mike Osbourne on March 10, 2009, 06:31:09 pm
You'll get bored Shaun. Too early for the pipe and slippers. :)
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 10, 2009, 06:34:47 pm
I was trying to get down to 5 days a week.

Shaun
Title: Re: Most used search term
Post by: Jim Gibbard on March 10, 2009, 07:27:08 pm
I think I'm curious about it more than anything else can't see the point of loading sheffield with my websites 2 is enough, just wondering more than anything what the No1 search term was either carpet cleaners ---- or carpet cleaning ----- or carpet cleaners ----- etc etc

Perhaps Jim may give us more information.

Shaun

Shaun,
I have already told you that you can not improve your website positioning more than you have.  The problem is a lack of google searches on Sheffield terms.   In short, not enough Sheffield punters looking for cleaning services. 
This is not confined to Sheffield. Most City/Town specific searches draw the same poor search results for cleaning. 
However, if you are interested, carpetcleansheffield - is available as a .com & .co.uk.
carpetcleanersheffield - is also available .com & .co.uk

Clinton:   I use godaddy.com for .com domain registration  ( costs about £6.50 for 1 year ). 
For .co.uk domains I use - 123-reg.co.uk ( £5.98 for 2 years )

I also use godaddy.com for hosting, however, I have heard good reports on hostgator.com

I would also stress that website promotion is just a part of your marketing efforts, do not lose focus on the other avenues in the search for the SEO "Holy Grail".  SEO needs genuine interest in what you are providing to be successful.

Hope this helps.

Jim