Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Pj on June 08, 2008, 09:59:49 pm
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Well now, hasn't it been quiet on here about the above lately!
What with the "record breaking Topic" on the Harris Decorators pole!
It seems to have cooled on responses!
Well here is a left-handed reply:
The SL-X is the pole I find myself reaching for...ground floor, first and often second floor...
The reasons are simple (sorry but I can't be bothered with a video)
I love the clamps, they work perfectly for someone left-handed
I love the length of the sections, they are perfect height or raising the next section
I love the rigidity of the pole fully extended because it is so well balanced
I love the pole fully collapsed because it is the first telescopic pole I have used that balances in my hands perfectly whilst cleaning ground floor windows.
Am I happy with it and its cost? Most definitely yes!
As someone close to me said today..."Why is a 'professional windowcleaner' trying to prove that a 'Decorators pole' is better? They are made for decorators!"
I don't have time to experiment or butcher with tools from the wrong trade, or to simply seek notoriety from this obscure means(w/c forum) of competing, I just want to help fellow professional windowcleaners keep us looking like that, as a trade, not as a diy image. Youtube is useful but not the real world.
In conclusion, my message is - If you want to be professional, then buy and learn to use professional tools made by dedicated companies who make professional tools and you'll find that they will suit your professional business.
If you want to be a diy expert doing diy jobs well that's ok too, but try not to get the two confused. ;) 8)
Pj
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All we need now is a proper brush to go on the end of it,the bentleys rubbish and all the others are far to heavy for that pole over a certain height.
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EVENING ALL !!!
Sounds good to me ! ive just ordered a slx .... Harris poles are exactly that ,,, jokes not to be made untill u have erected one in a b and q then found ur self dropping it like some dodgy bloke down isle 21 ha ha ha ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D slx we love them ....... ;D ;D :P
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All we need now is a proper brush to go on the end of it,the bentleys rubbish and all the others are far to heavy for that pole over a certain height.
I must say that the Ionics multipole brush is quite all right weight wise. It's 330 Gram I think, while the Bentley is 240g (I think).
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The bentley is a out and out floor brush at best,the multipole brush like you say is not to bad on it but it`s still not good enough.
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Well these replies so far are partly why I don't post much on here.
suddenly, uninvited.... we're into brushes!
Talk about brushes on your own flipping topics ::)!
I may join in. ::)
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The brush questions and answers are totally relevent to this thread,this pole is seriously under performing due to no desent brush for it.I`m not using mine at the moment due to this brush issue.
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Maybe it would be more productive if you asked:
What brush are you using to make it so successful?
Instead of rubbishing the subject.
Try an Ionics type dual trim.
No problems in 3 years
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Maybe it would be more productive if you asked: What brush are you using to make it so successful?
Instead of rubbishing the subject.
Try an Ionics type dual trim.
No problems in 3 years
Has the SLX been out 3 years then,that`s news to me.And as far as brushes go i`ve used every 1 there is,your thread is about the SLX pole let me tell you that without a good light brush the pole is under performing.
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Shell the money out and get yourself a tucker brush on the end of your slx (very light!!) i am happier than anything i have used in the past well worth every penny and a great combo
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The two best unique selling points of the SL-X pole has to be the perfect balanced weight when using collapsed or fully extended. I haven't come across any other pole that is balanced so well and I've tried almost all makes of pole available. The different lengths of pole sections make it very easy to reach the clamps individually because they don't collapse onto each other allowing easy access to each clamp individually.
I've fitted a Tucker brush on a swivel connection to this pole and consider this to be my best pole for using on ground floor work up to 2nd level work. It is in a league with Facelift & Ionic poles. Height for weight and balance ratios, it beats them hands down. It has my approval. :)
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Well you must be an expert then! Replied to NWH
Just talk about your problems someplace else!
I have made my comments knowingly, I would like others to read them unhindered, but that is already impossible!
I have been using this pole with a dual trim monofilament brush for 4 weeks constantly and so decided to make a comment, I'm already wishing I hadn't, but, guess what?
I love it and will continue to use it the way I want to. It's paying it's way and earning my living. What else matters?
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Shell the money out and get yourself a tucker brush on the end of your slx (very light!!) i am happier than anything i have used in the past well worth every penny and a great combo
I`ve done that,and Wayne i like the pole but the clamps are not as good as the facelift clamps.The facelift pole can be collapsed down quickly as if it`s clampless in use,the SLX can`t if you even try this it will slam down on the next section and push out the end stop and jam the pole tightly shut.Like i say i like the pole but it still needs fine tuning in my opinion and more importantly needs a good LIGHT brush for it to work to it`s full potential.
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Well you must be an expert then! Replied to NWH
Just talk about your problems someplace else!
I have made my comments knowingly, I would like others to read them unhindered, but that is already impossible!
I have been using this pole with a dual trim monofilament brush for 4 weeks constantly and so decided to make a comment, I'm already wishing I hadn't, but, guess what?
I love it and will continue to use it the way I want to. It's paying it's way and earning my living. What else matters?
Cheers for that that reply really helped me and lots of other people,how many other poles have you had and what type to compare this pole to.
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I've used ergolite, multipoles, and Gardiner G/F pole all for nearly 3 years,
this one is best.
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(sorry but I can't be bothered with a video)
Pj
Says it all really!! ;)
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I love it and will continue to use it the way I want to. It's paying it's [sic] way and earning my living. What else matters?
Some people are saying exactly the same about the Harris pole!
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I love it and will continue to use it the way I want to. It's paying it's (sic) way and earning my living. What else matters?
Some people are saying exactly the same about the Harris pole!
Fair (sic?) comment.
But I haven't spent any time developing or making it then playing around with it. I just get it out and use it.
I didn't really mean this to be a slanging match, I'm just a grumpy old man.
It's all good.
But I've made my point and why I use what I am now using.
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Oh, by the way
I also use the SL 2 45' modular with a bentley brush.
I don't like the brush but it has to be light on the end of that pole
Anything lower I use the ionics dual trim
Can't get on with anything else, but would like a tucker.
I'm just a grumpy old man. Did I say that already?
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Well these replies so far are partly why I don't post much on here.
suddenly, uninvited.... we're into brushes!
Talk about brushes on your own flipping topics ::)!
I may join in. ::)
It's not just your topic, unless you want to ask questions and answer them yourself.
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I have been using the slx since it went on sale. My view is same the as PJ on this one. I have had no problem with the claps they are very good and strong.
The pole is very ridged and light as a feather to use.
However I dont use it all the time, as I use cheap xtel 3 x 1meter for most jobs, yes they are like using a fly fishing rod but they are cheap to replace.
All in all monney well spent.
Roy :)
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The brush questions and answers are totally relevent to this thread,this pole is seriously under performing due to no desent brush for it.I`m not using mine at the moment due to this brush issue.
Have to totally disagree, vikan rectangular on mine & it's the biz!! Can't do with wafer brushes myself.
Seriously under performing due to a brush that only weighs a few gramms more than you like is total nonesense. ;)
Tony
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Well these replies so far are partly why I don't post much on here.
suddenly, uninvited.... we're into brushes!
Talk about brushes on your own flipping topics ::)!
I may join in. ::)
It's not just your topic, unless you want to ask questions and answer them yourself.
Sorry about that, my sense of humour is too dry even for me at times ;)
(sorry but I can't be bothered with a video)
Pj
Says it all really!! ;)
Not really Mr Groundhog. The decorator's diy pole needs a video by your goodself to demonstrate what you're on about, and judging by your following you have done that ably!
The SL-X however hardly needs the likes of humble me to display on video as it is designed and sold by a bespoke windowcleaning supplier who I'm sure has videos on the website. You see it doesn't need much further explanation as it is for windowcleaners. Expensive? Yes, but there are reasons for that, just the same as there are reasons why the decorators pole is cheap!
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The brush questions and answers are totally relevent to this thread,this pole is seriously under performing due to no desent brush for it.I`m not using mine at the moment due to this brush issue.
Have to totally disagree, vikan rectangular on mine & it's the biz!! Can't do with wafer brushes myself.
Seriously under performing due to a brush that only weighs a few gramms more than you like is total nonesense. ;)
Tony
Wait until you use it with a proper light brush and then you`ll see what i mean.
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This is a very good SLX thread because it's less efffusive than some of the others. Champions of the SLX don't do it any good by enthusing like schoolgirls and making exagerated claims.
I don't know why the harris keeps cropping up. It's cold on the hands in winter, the clamps are arkward, and it's closed lenght is too long. It's not as good as an xtel, and the time cost of mods is greater.
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pj most of the goods that the wfp suppliers on this site, sale products that have been adapted from other sourses..
viking
bentley
fishing poles
hozeloc
gas fittings
blue di bottles
list could go on..
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pj most of the goods that the wfp suppliers on this site, sale products that have been adapted from other sourses..
viking
bentley
fishing poles
hozeloc
gas fittings
blue di bottles
list could go on..
This is a valid point, but there is a very distinct difference between tools that are cobbled together by a diy enthusiast and those developed and tested by dedicated (using that term in a general sense) windowcleaning suppliers.
For example: the case in point - if the SL-X was to be faulty in use cleaning windows, you ring the supplier and the supplier in this case unhesitatingly fixes the problem either under warranty or if it is beyond that date for an agreed fee. - if the decorators pole doesn't perform on the job or something goes wrong you contact the supplier he tells you it's a decorators pole! You throw it away and get another one for £15 and rebuild it.
False economy may spring to mind??
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For example: the case in point - if the SL-X was to be faulty in use cleaning windows, you ring the supplier and the supplier in this case unhesitatingly fixes the problem either under warranty or if it is beyond that date for an agreed fee. - if the decorators pole doesn't perform on the job or something goes wrong you contact the supplier he tells you it's a decorators pole! You throw it away and get another one for £15 and rebuild it.
False economy may spring to mind??
Hi PJ, I'm glad that your happy with your slx pole, I'm also more than happy with my Harris pole! I have 2 of them and they both work perfectly, and with all due respect I would have to throw away at least 30 of them before it became a false economy!!! ;)
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How is the slx wearing so far?
One user said it was giving off black dust and he was getting grey hands. Thinking of making a purchase and want to spend my cash wisely.
Simon.
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How is the slx wearing so far?
One user said it was giving off black dust and he was getting grey hands. Thinking of making a purchase and want to spend my cash wisely.
Simon.
It would be a very wise investment, the pole is superb & a credit to it's developers. I havent used my carbon facelift since i got my hands on the sl-x.
Wear? not a problem, this pole is built to last. even though it's very light, the carbon tube walls are quite thick in construction. I personally don't look after my poles :-[ they are my workhorse & purchased to make my life easier & work faster. The clamps are excellent, low drag & quick to use (although it may take a couple of days to get used to the unique design). As already said, the balance of the pole is second to none, weight, rigidity & length (open & closed) puts it in a league of it's own IMO.
In 6 weeks of using the sl-x i've closed open hinged windows with it, turned it upside down & closed top sash windows (with butt end), bent it through juliet style balcony railings (sorry alex) & used it EXCLUSIVLEY for all windows up to 30ft. there isn't one bottom window on my whole round that i can't easily do with the sl-x. I carry only one pole now in the van apart from the odd time i need more than 30ft.
IMO the price tag of around 400+vat is serious value for money for such a valuable tool.
Tony
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How is the slx wearing so far?
One user said it was giving off black dust and he was getting grey hands. Thinking of making a purchase and want to spend my cash wisely.
Simon.
You may be getting a bit confused there. One did say he got a little black dust, only one though, I haven't.
Someone else said they were getting grey hands from the decorators pole.
Buy both! Then you can get to find out for yourself - and at £15 when you've finished with Harris you can sling it.
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Thanks guys,
I know what it means for macmac to say he's not picked up his facelift since, along the same lines as to when squeaky went over to wfp, a BIG DEAL.
This was the post I was thinking about.
www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=55980.0;all
He's (bonzer) local to me anyway so I'll probably see him and ask.
Thanks Simon.
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what's the point in putting down the harris? Because loads of people have saved a load of money buying one, except you?
The harris pole does it's job as a pole (whether it was meant for paint rollers or not!)
That's like saying you would prefer to pay 10 times as much for a "window cleaning brush" because the Vikan brushes were originally made for automotive cleaning trades. (oh wait, some would!) :-X
Suckers!
;)
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Did I mention that I use an alloy pole too? Not harris but similar to the Unger, been using it for 15 years on and off trad, also occasionally wfp - but can't be bothered setting it up.
I also use 18' G/f 12' g/f even 4' g/f.