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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jewelcleaning on May 27, 2008, 10:46:37 am
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Sorry this has been asked before no doubt, but should I get fan jets fitted instead of pencil? Will this improve the rinsing?
Also, can they be fitted to a double trim brush?
Thanks,
J
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i started a ccouple of weeks ago using the fan jets upuntil then ive allways used pencil , at the moment the jurys still out on the fan jets will no better next week when i return to houses ive done using them .
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i used the fan jets for a day and instantly couldnt get on with them. found that couldnt get accurate control when rinsing
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i used the fan jets for a day and instantly couldnt get on with them. found that couldnt get accurate control when rinsing
You can't get any more accurate than a fan jet, anywhere the brush goes the water is there as well. With a pencil jet supposing you want to rinse the edge of the frame, you would have to lift the brush off the glass and aim water up to the edge of the frame. Supposing you didn't clean the frames and only done the glass, then you would have to go over the frame to get water on the edge of the glass. Supposing you wanted to waste time and energy rinsing with the brush off the glass, then you can still do this more effectively with a fan jet as the water is coming out the jet under more pressure breaking through the beads more easily, and flushing whatever is on the glass, with more pressure to the bottom of the glass. Some may say that the water on a fan pray will spray the top frames bringing down dirt, but not if you watch where the water is spraying, and don't let the spray go up too far.
Peter
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i agree with what you are saying peter, sopose it all depends the method of cleaning you use. just not for me
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i used the fan jets for a day and instantly couldnt get on with them. found that couldnt get accurate control when rinsing
X Line, what make of fan sprays did you try, and where did you get them from?? I am just curios as to why someone could try them for the day and not like them. Now I know many people on here has tried them and not liked them and I am just can't understand for the life of me why not. I am starting to wonder if it may be the type used. I wouldn't mind getting a hold of some different types to try them out. I know Cleantech do the same type as me, so apart from them anyone else.
Peter
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we sell the same ones as you i believe. think its just a personal opinion. the same as the trolley or van mount issue
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I bought a brush with fan jets fitted and had loads of trouble with them not fireing in a line one went up one went down, tryed turning them and redriling the holes but no joy.
If IMO you could get them to fan a line they would be the best hands down.
might give them a go again though so how much for a set of your ones peter??
cheers joe
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we sell the same ones as you i believe. think its just a personal opinion. the same as the trolley or van mount issue
I know everyone is different , and like I always say the world would be a funny place if we all liked the same thing. I don't think it is the same though as the trolley verses van mount scenario. I think it is more like the squeegee verses the chamois, yes the chamois cleans the windows to the same extent, but a lot more time and effort is involved. I still think most people prefer the pencil jet, as most people are given them when they buy a brush or system.
Peter
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I bought a brush with fan jets fitted and had loads of trouble with them not fireing in a line one went up one went down, tryed turning them and redriling the holes but no joy.
If IMO you could get them to fan a line they would be the best hands down.
might give them a go again though so how much for a set of your ones peter??
cheers joe
The jets themselves are very cheap but it depends how you fit them. I personally use a 6mm bulkhead connector to fit onto the brush, and the jets fit inside them. You can however do it the cheap way and slide a 8mm outside diameter piece of semi rigid hose over the jet itself, but the holes in the brush have to be drilled properly to make it work.
Peter
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Sorry this has been asked before no doubt, but should I get fan jets fitted instead of pencil? Will this improve the rinsing?
Also, can they be fitted to a double trim brush?
Thanks,
J
;) Get to work J! :o
If you want my opinion...No i hear you say!
Your doing it all wrong!!!
Pencils are for drawing pictures!
Fans are usually use to "Blow Hot (sorry cold!)Air" ;D ;D ;D
sorry couldn't resist! :P
Well back to work, lunch over ;)
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Cheap?
Pants - I've just paid £12 for a pair. I thought they were expensive! I think they saw me coming.
Oh well, I'll give them a shot I suppose!
J
PS: Thanks for yr advice steve! ;) ;) :D
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Was that for the bulkheads as well?
Peter
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Was that for the bulkheads as well?
Peter
What with the whats? :D
I don't know? Just asked for fan jets to fit my brush (From Killis) They said I'd have to drill out the holes to fit them.
Do they screw in?
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Well I use bulkhead connectors to put the jets in. What I do is drill out the whole slightly smaller than the diameter of the bulkhead connector, and then it self taps into the hole. The jets now slide into one end of the quick connect on the bulkhead connector, and the tube fits in the other side. Much easier to take the jet out for cleaning, or take the pipe out to renew.
Peter
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The cleantech ones don`t fan aswell as yours do in the video clip,there more like a heavy sprinkle than a fan.I like the fan in the video better.
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The cleantech ones don`t fan aswell as yours do in the video clip,there more like a heavy sprinkle than a fan.I like the fan in the video better.
To be fair the brush on the video was only to show how the brush worked, and was connected straight up to an outside tap. You should get an even distribution though, and under pressure.
Peter
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we sell the same ones as you i believe. think its just a personal opinion. the same as the trolley or van mount issue
I know everyone is different , and like I always say the world would be a funny place if we all liked the same thing. I don't think it is the same though as the trolley verses van mount scenario. I think it is more like the squeegee verses the chamois, yes the chamois cleans the windows to the same extent, but a lot more time and effort is involved. I still think most people prefer the pencil jet, as most people are given them when they buy a brush or system.
Peter
Have to say I have not used them as yet but will be trying them
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Well I received the fan jets today.
I fitted them next to the already installed pencil jets so that I can choose which ones as and when.
Tried them out very briefly.. not sure what they'll be like but will be giving them a go soon.
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Sorry this has been asked before no doubt, but should I get fan jets fitted instead of pencil? Will this improve the rinsing?
Thanks,
J
In a word "No". IMO they offer less accuracy and less pressure.
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i used the fan jets for a day and instantly couldnt get on with them. found that couldnt get accurate control when rinsing
You can't get any more accurate than a fan jet, anywhere the brush goes the water is there as well. With a pencil jet supposing you want to rinse the edge of the frame, you would have to lift the brush off the glass and aim water up to the edge of the frame. Supposing you didn't clean the frames and only done the glass, then you would have to go over the frame to get water on the edge of the glass. Supposing you wanted to waste time and energy rinsing with the brush off the glass, then you can still do this more effectively with a fan jet as the water is coming out the jet under more pressure breaking through the beads more easily, and flushing whatever is on the glass, with more pressure to the bottom of the glass. Some may say that the water on a fan pray will spray the top frames bringing down dirt, but not if you watch where the water is spraying, and don't let the spray go up too far.
Peter
Nonesense, i don't clean frames, only glass, fans are messy, too splashy, pencil with a steady flow & the correct type of brush is the only way for me. NO SPLASHES!!!! ;)
Tony
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how much are a set of your jets or a brush complet from you peter?
thanks joe
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just haveing a look for some fan jets and if you dont like cleantec ones then you will pay about £6 each for other types.
why are they so much?
iv hear you can use the jets from garden centers that spray the grass (micro something).
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how much are a set of your jets or a brush complet from you peter?
thanks joe
I can do you 2 jets for £3.00.
Autobrush complete with angle adaptor £65.00, or an 11" jetted Salmon for £35 again complete with angle joint, and hose adapter to fit any hose.
Peter
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how much are a set of your jets or a brush complet from you peter?
thanks joe
I can do you 2 jets for £3.00.
Autobrush complete with angle adaptor £65.00, or an 11" jetted Salmon for £35 again complete with angle joint, and hose adapter to fit any hose.
Peter
Are they the same 11" 1`s that i`ve had from you before.
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Peter
Are they the same 11" 1`s that i`ve had from you before.
Yes it will be.
Peter
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is that what you use in the vid? if so how do i order one from you peter?
cheers joe
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is that what you use in the vid? if so how do i order one from you peter?
cheers joe
Hi Joe,the 1 he uses in the vid is a 15".
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cheers nigel how heavy are they ?
did you get on with it mate ?
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can anyone supply me with a salmon brush with 4 pencil jets as i,m using the vikan rectangle with 4 at the moment and i love the coverage of the jets but i,m sure the brush could be improved on regards alan
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how do you hook up 4 jets?
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look at the brushes on the emporium ste for set up regards alan
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is that what you use in the vid? if so how do i order one from you peter?
cheers joe
You can send me your details by email if you like and I will get one sent out. It will be early next week before it goes though, as I am a bit short staffed at the moment.
Peter
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Well I received the fan jets today.
I fitted them next to the already installed pencil jets so that I can choose which ones as and when.
Tried them out very briefly.. not sure what they'll be like but will be giving them a go soon.
:D Well? (or should I say Wells?)
What's the verdict? :) >:( :-\
any good? ::)
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cheers nigel how heavy are they ?
did you get on with it mate ?
Joe i would go for the 11" 1 as it can be used on all windows,where as the 15" 1 is better suited to big plate glass.If you can afford it get them both,Peter makes a really good job of jetting the brushes.
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hi peter did you get my order?
thanks joe
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pete i would like to order some please
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alan andrewswestsi said -
can anyone supply me with a salmon brush with 4 pencil jets as i,m using the vikan rectangle with 4 at the moment and i love the coverage of the jets but i,m sure the brush could be improved on regards alan
Do you not get through twice the amount of water with 4 pencils.
I thought about doing that myself as i thought i would be able to rinse a lot quicker but never got round to doing it as i was thinking of the huge amount of water i would get through
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i do think i use more water with the 4 pencils but i,ve got a 650 tank so always have plenty and i really like the coverage on the glass and it works really well when rinsing phobic glass i leave the brush at the top of the glass and build up the flow and then just brush down for final rinse regards alan
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Well I received the fan jets today.
I fitted them next to the already installed pencil jets so that I can choose which ones as and when.
Tried them out very briefly.. not sure what they'll be like but will be giving them a go soon.
:D Well? (or should I say Wells?)
What's the verdict? :) >:( :-\
any good? ::)
NO! In all honesty, I found them irritatingly inacurate. So swapped back to pencil. The beauty of having both installed on brush!
I may give them another go, but I think they are ideally suited to Vikan oval brush (as I was told), which incidentally are suited to windows without corners! :P