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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: geefree on March 31, 2008, 11:42:36 pm

Title: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: geefree on March 31, 2008, 11:42:36 pm
Its brilliant to have all that power after my 40 psi ... but the setting on nuber one is very strong ... all the other things are fine... and it gets obviously more powerful as i move up the settings.....

is there a way to turn the default setting down so i can regulate my own flow to begin with.?.. as number one is too  strong

or is it me , being used to my old weak pump?

thanks.

Gary.

Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: alanwilson on March 31, 2008, 11:48:15 pm
I run mine at 2 or 3 most of the time - 4 for first cleans
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: geefree on March 31, 2008, 11:55:28 pm
but no.1 is so strong it comes straight out of the brush  a  metre before fall.

Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: alanwilson on March 31, 2008, 11:56:09 pm
strange - what size jets you using?
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: geefree on March 31, 2008, 11:58:44 pm
usual standards wth vikan brush
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: macmac on March 31, 2008, 11:59:45 pm
number 1 too strong for me too, as far as i see it the varistream is just an expensive on/off switch.
It's supposed to keep a constant flow at any height, does it? NO. infact mine's all over the place, different from one day to the next without touching anything. Just cannot get a reliable steady flow, it's either too much or not enough. All the varistream has done for me after 6/7 weeks of using it is cost me time & hassle fannying around trying to just get a happy medium. What you save in water with the pressure switch you then lose when it blasts out on reconnection. lower the pressure setting to prevent this & the thing cuts out willy nilly. crap if you ask me. ;)
Maybe williamson pumps could reply to explain exactly what "intelligent" means?

Tony
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: alanwilson on April 01, 2008, 12:01:35 am
I suppose thats about right actually - never worry, just get a bigger tank.  I want a 1000ltr tank for myself
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: geefree on April 01, 2008, 12:06:11 am
good point.... i did not expect the pressure to build and blast the water out after hose tap off ,,, then on again.... may just as well not have it... if number one is too strong... as i cant use any other setting and number 1 is wasting me water...

i rung pure freedom... they mentioned the pressue switch ( holding down - +)..... but that brings a menu up,... and i dare not mess with the default settings..... but the pressure switch wont alter my flow will it ? only the cut out.
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: macmac on April 01, 2008, 12:10:52 am
Why the hell we've been sold 100psi pumps for is another mystery too ::)

Here's how to change settings, provided by DJW

With the Varistream switched on - press+ and- buttons together for three seconds to display pressure setting
Release the buttons for 1-2 seconds then press together again for three seconds and the digit will flash
Use the + and - buttons to set a higher or lower pressure (best to adjust one letter at a time and avoid large swings in pressure)
Once the desired letter is displayed turn off the Varistream
When you switch back on it will have accepted the new setting. To confirm press both buttons together for three seconds and release.
Sounds complicated but in reality it's easy.


Oh, and the light, green= pump running,green flashing=low battery,red=pressure shut off achieved.

Tony
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: macmac on April 01, 2008, 12:12:42 am
P.S. there is a number 0 if you press - once more ;)

Tony
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: alanwilson on April 01, 2008, 12:13:57 am
yeah the settings will only affect the cut off.  not the flow.

If you don't want it I'll have it, just post it on!

you were sold 100psi pumps as the valves inside it are a more durable material apparently

numero uno is way too slow - come on girls, more flow, less hassle
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: geefree on April 01, 2008, 12:20:13 am
its pumping out at number on.   it bounces off the windows and wets me through... just paid a lot of money out so i def want it.....( post it on lol).....

thanks macmac...... but the pressure swith is nothing to do with the flow is it.... or is it?
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: macmac on April 01, 2008, 12:22:05 am
It pees me off mind not being able to rely on suppliers & manufacturers to know what they are on with, it's time some of them got a serious grip!

numero uno too slow? you should see mine, it would have your eye out at 30ft!

tony
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: alanwilson on April 01, 2008, 12:25:04 am
seems odd that cuz ours are all new pumps and varistreams (January) as the others were starting to fail so replaced the whole lot.  have a look tomorrow and see just how far the stream goes before it hits the ground, if its less than half a mile turn it up a bit!
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: macmac on April 01, 2008, 12:28:57 am
Quote
thanks macmac...... but the pressure swith is nothing to do with the flow is it.... or is it?  

In theory no, but i noticed small changes in flow when i changed the settings. but then again, there always seems to be changes in flow for no apparent reason. Strangely i get more flow the higher the pole, then when lowered the flow drops without touching a single button. I got this having been led to beleive once i had a usable flow rate it would be just a case of switching on every day & having the same flow no matter what length of pole. Never happened yet. ::)

Tony
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: alanwilson on April 01, 2008, 12:31:39 am
then go back to how you were working before, send the varistream back or flog it.


I'm happy with ours.
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: macmac on April 01, 2008, 12:36:09 am
then go back to how you were working before, send the varistream back or flog it.


I'm happy with ours.

Can't it broke & i ain't tried fixing it yet. this one works, it just doesn't do what it should when it should & i hate hassle with unreliable equipment! >:(

Tony
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: david68 on April 01, 2008, 01:02:14 am
I do not use a varistream.
Just turn my tap down that i fitted from my tank.
Also standard 1/2" hose

My pump is still ok after 2.5 years and my rinse is great

Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 01, 2008, 09:18:24 am
For the guys with problems, are you using microbore or minibore?
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: neil100 on April 01, 2008, 09:30:51 am
I use 2 x 60psi Flowjet pumps with 2 x 100 mtr microbore hoses, No varistream and No problems in 2 half years. The flowrate is perfect and I never have any leaks. Their is more Dust on the floor of the van then you would beleive.

WFP is very simple. Why complicate things with a varistream.

Neil
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: macmac on April 01, 2008, 11:38:16 am
For the guys with problems, are you using microbore or minibore?

minibore, there is absolutely no problem with amount of flow, as stated above, the flow is too much. the problem is getting a constant flow rate which is suitable to me & my method, you know, the sweet spot.
Before i had a 75psi ready made box with a flow control valve (lever) on it. It lasted 3.5 years, worked perfectley & never let me down once in all that time. I wanted the same again but they would have had to make it up specialy & at the same cost as one with a digital varistream. I was told i would be better off with the 100psi/varistream set up as that's how all their systems are made now. infact, they had 7 vans going out that week all with this set-up. This is what pees me off, the guys using those 7 vans probably don't know any better & so assume the flow they get is the norm & don't say anything. So, this leaves the supplier thinking "must be ok ::))
Am fed up of getting conned of real, accurate info & having to sift through trying to decide who exactly i can rely on in this trade. So many people just seem to think- if water comes out the end then it must be ok! ::)


Tony
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 01, 2008, 03:14:48 pm
How much flow in litres per hour are you talking about? I haven't hooked mine up yet, but I find it strange that some people have no problem and some do. Hopefully I won't have any problems.
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: macmac on April 01, 2008, 05:53:09 pm
Anything above setting number 1 & the water is bouncing off the glass! god knows what setting 9 would be like.

tony
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: NWH on April 01, 2008, 06:36:26 pm
The old one is much better.
Title: Re: New pump and varistream extra strong
Post by: frames to panes on April 01, 2008, 08:46:45 pm
I find the new digital one better for me. My old one was turned up to maximum on the blue dial and just couldn't balance pressure with flow. I did fit it with a new pump though, with a slightly different flow rate than my first one.