Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: George P on February 27, 2008, 07:06:53 pm
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facelift have kitted out all our vans over the years & this is the second time our vans have been involved in an accident, occuppants safe on both occasions , one at 70mph and this one at 40mph, both times tanks have stayed in place, if fitted by someone else they probably still would have stayed in place but ill never know. what i do know is i am glad they were fitted by proffessionals and not myself and a mate etc. i know some of you fit them yourselfs and im not saying thats a bad idea but please be careful and make sure it is right.
george
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You wouldn't catch me driving at 70mph with my 600ltr tank in the back, thats idiotic!!! :o
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Bet the poles were still like new too eh? ;D
tony
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70mph was on m/way, poles not like new still but they did last a day longer as they wasnt used that day
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You wouldn't catch me driving at 70mph with my 600ltr tank in the back, thats idiotic!!! :o
Of course I'd catch you cos i'd be driving at 80mph ;D
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Of course I'd catch you cos i'd be driving at 80mph ;D
I have more respect for other road users than to travel at excessive speed with a tank full of water in the back!!! >:(
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What were the circumstances of the crash - rear ended? bump? bridge pillar?
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70mph? occupants ok? It wasn't head on then.
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my van won't go that fast with an empty tank! ;D
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Mine will do a ton with 800ltr in it.
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Mine will do a ton with 800ltr in it.
If you do a ton with 800ltrs in the back, then you deserve to be locked up as you are a disaster waiting to happen! >:(
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George, do you work for Facelift ;D Luke
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I never said I do a ton with 800 ltr in the back, although how do I know?
I nearly did get locked up for 142mph though!
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I never said I do a ton with 800 ltr in the back, although how do I know?
I nearly did get locked up for 142mph though!
You would have deserved it! >:(
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Maybe he was talking about doing a tonne on a track!!!
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Luke it was on the road.
Groundhog, do you ever break the speed limit? Or are you one of these drivers who has never had an accident but seen hundreds?
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Wouldnt it be a good thing if he didnt break the speed limit, it means he wont loose his license and have to stop working :(
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I wrote off a car at 120 mph when I was 17! It was a miracle that I didn't kill anyone!! Now I have grown up I stick to the speed limit, SPEED KILLS!!!!! :(
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Where you banned and what did you hit, Luke
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Speed doesn't kill, it is usually the sudden stop that does the damage.
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Im sorry, but speed does kill, it slows reaction times. Or should I say there is less time to react and stop, Luke
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I was in the fast lane of the motorway when there was a pile up in front of me, I ploughed into the back of a Daimler as I was going too fast to have any chance of stopping, I had my brother, sister and girlfriend in the car, I could have wiped them all out and the occupants of the other car, but amazingly no one was hurt!
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Was the Daimler moving quick too? as that would have helped, Luke
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No it was stationary as it had already hit another car! like I said it was amazing no one was killed!
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So you were doing 120mph then how much when you hit the Daimler? Luke
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Not sure? but I skidded for about 30 meters before hitting it, and it was damp conditions, The ford Cortina I was driving was about the size of a mini afterwards!!
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Ok so Im an experienced driver driving at 100mph ( what? ) and concentrating very hard, and a boy walks out in front of me, there is no time to break or slow down or react so I kill him......speed does kill.
Even if you are experienced and concentrating what can you do if there is no time to react because you are traveling too fast?
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Yes but he could be futher away while your going faster and still you have no time to react, Luke
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You have much more chance of killing somebody if you are speeding...fact. You have less time to react, more energy involved ( increased chance of ending their lives/yours), less time to break etc etc, Luke
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Ewan, lets agree to disagree! Luke
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That was quite a funny little argument!! speed kills, no it doesnt, yes it does, no,yes,no..........takes me back to school.
Talking of school, discovered today I went to a school in the UK's bottom 25!!! cant believe I have made something of myself! Luke
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One year!!!
I now have a Peugeot Expert 2.0 hdi with a 500ltr wfp system and poles to reach 50ft. Im 18 now. My dad helped me set up my business, he didnt fund me but gave me his time and we built it up together! My tips would be work hard and charge well! Luke
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Ewan, your not serious are you ?? ? ?
the faster you are travelling the less time you have to react, thats not even open to discussion, its just fact
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One year!!!
I now have a Peugeot Expert 2.0 hdi with a 500ltr wfp system and poles to reach 50ft. Im 18 now. My dad helped me set up my business, he didnt fund me but gave me his time and we built it up together! My tips would be work hard and charge well! Luke
And suddenly it all becomes clear
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I pressume you refering to my age, well tell me how old you are, that may explain why you are so grouchy!!!!! :)
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Luke you show so much maturity, I can't believe you are just 18 years of age! I salute you!! :)
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Luke you show so much maturity, I can't believe you are just 18 years of age! I salute you!! :)
a decent replywant some fish with that chip......you know :).....the big one on your shoulder
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I pressume you refering to my age, well tell me how old you are, that may explain why you are so grouchy!!!!! :)
lol
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:) :) :) :)
Luke you show so much maturity, I can't believe you are just 18 years of age! I salute you!!
Cheers mate! And I salute you for saluting me!! Luke
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he run into back of van on sliproad, wet floor and slid
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sorry luke just read your reply, no i dont work for facelift but its just my experiance of tanks fitted by facelift, as said earlier it would probably be the same if any other manufacturer. george
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Ewan, your not serious are you ?? ? ?
the faster you are travelling the less time you have to react, thats not even open to discussion, its just fact
Why does your reation slow when you are going faster? mine does'nt
W
What a lovely discussion! May I join in? :)
Reaction times stay exactly the same whatever speed you are going. What changes is the distance covered during that same reaction time. At 70mph your reaction time will cost you twice as much road space as at 35mph.
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Im sorry, but speed does kill, it slows reaction times. Or should I say there is less time to react and stop, Luke
The word I should have used was "thinking distance". As your speed increases your thinking distance increases, Luke
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Facts and Statistics about Speed
Speeding and excessive speed causes thousands of serious accidents and injuries every year.
Excessive speed contributes to 28% of collisions in which someone is killed, 18% of crashes resulting in a serious injury and 12% of all injury collisions. This means that around 1,000 people are killed each year on Britain’s roads because drivers and riders travel too fast, and over 6,000 are seriously injured.
Approximately two-thirds of all crashes in which people are killed or injured happen on roads with a speed limit of 30 mph or less. At 35 mph a driver is twice as likely to kill someone as they are at 30 mph.
Studies have shown the extent that the speed effects the risk of injury, and this is also shown in the simulator. Some key facts to note are that,
Hit by a car at 20 mph, 1 out of 40 pedestrian will be killed,
97% will survive
Hit by a car at 30 mph, 2 out of 10 pedestrians will be killed,
80% will survive
Hit by a car at 35 mph, 5 out of 10 pedestrians will be killed,
50% will survive
Hit by a car at 40 mph, 9 out of 10 pedestrians will be killed,
10% will survive
quoted from "THINK!" website, Luke
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Stopping distances:
Speed ( mph ) Overall stopping distance ( ft )
20 40
30 75
40 120
50 175
60 240
70 315
80 400
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Speed doest kill, it depends on who is driving at speed, i know a traffic cop, absolutely amazing driver, cruising speed down the motorway in a chase to catch someone is on average 120mph, he has never has a crash,
he spun a car off of the motorway in a pursuit the other day, the only damage he did to his police car was a tiny small black scuff,
just because the speed limit is 30mph, doesn't mean you have to go 30mph, what if children are at the side of the road,
part of the traffic police training, is to give a detailed commentary when they are driving, they look for things that i wouldn't,
speed in itself doesn't kill, speeding is something else, going faster than is permited by natural elements
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Luke you show so much maturity, I can't believe you are just 18 years of age! I salute you!! :)
congratulations luke. You received a compliment off groundhog. :o
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congratulations luke. You received a compliment off groundhog. :o
Credit where credit is due I always say!!! ;)