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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: geefree on February 12, 2008, 05:54:09 pm

Title: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 12, 2008, 05:54:09 pm
Hi,

will be purchasing a 100 psi soon,

But at the moment i have simply took my 40 psi from a backpack and installed it in the van, that way i still can use the 4 flow settings.

but now its very noisy , is it on the way out...?

it hardly pumps on number one and too where its fairly quiet, so i use 3 , ample water but noisy .


Also will i need a varistream with a 100 psi,? as all i hear is people complaining really,

what other ways are there to control water flow,

i have a pole tap.

cheers.

Gary.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 12, 2008, 05:58:21 pm
Some will say no but i would get a varistream with a shurflo pump.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: Jon-scwindows on February 12, 2008, 06:06:24 pm
if your using the 40psi pump in the van with a long hose reel that could be why its not working very well.
I have just got a 100psi shurflo and digi varistream to use with 100m minibore - i have changed to minibore, so this will work well. Though i previously had the same pump with 100m 6mm.

some use a varistream with the pump in the van, with a flow valve on the end of the hose, so they work together, works well for me.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 12, 2008, 06:12:03 pm
Good thing about the varistream and ECO-FLO is that you don`t use the switch on the pump,combined with minibore it works like a dream.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 12, 2008, 07:13:35 pm
Thanks lads,

sounds like its under pressure then?
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 12, 2008, 11:58:39 pm
Hi,

will be purchasing a 100 psi soon,

But at the moment i have simply took my 40 psi from a backpack and installed it in the van, that way i still can use the 4 flow settings.

but now its very noisy , is it on the way out...?

it hardly pumps on number one and too where its fairly quiet, so i use 3 , ample water but noisy .


Also will i need a varistream with a 100 psi,? as all i hear is people complaining really,

what other ways are there to control water flow,

i have a pole tap.

cheers.

Gary.

Gazza
As you know i got the pump + vari last week, i was beggining to get a bit peed off as i thought the purpose of the vari' was to give a constant flow at any height & it wasn't. anyway, didn't realize till end of today i had a leak in the system & hosereel so put it down to this. Now this is fixed i'll report back with my oppinoin tomorrow if it would help.

Tony
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: TVCS on February 13, 2008, 05:33:07 pm
I also have had a varistream and 100 psi pump for about 2 weeks.   Not too impressed withthe way the water at the end of the pole rose and fell withthe pump coming on and off.  Anyway.  had 2 poles working from it today and it was tops.    must have had a leak somewhere cos moved me hoses around abit too and with 1 pole on the go it was pressure tastic.   

It seems to save battery power too.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on February 13, 2008, 08:46:38 pm
Hi,

will be purchasing a 100 psi soon,

But at the moment i have simply took my 40 psi from a backpack and installed it in the van, that way i still can use the 4 flow settings.

but now its very noisy , is it on the way out...?

it hardly pumps on number one and too where its fairly quiet, so i use 3 , ample water but noisy .


Also will i need a varistream with a 100 psi,? as all i hear is people complaining really,

what other ways are there to control water flow,

i have a pole tap.

cheers.

Gary.


Does the pressure switch work and does the pump keep going when you turn off the water?

If so then they are exactly the symptoms I had in the pump I have just replaced!

And OH Yes....it's worn out mate.  They don't like being put under strain.  Remember it only 40psi.  Bit like putting a 1000ltr IBC in a Reliant Robin ;D

David
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 13, 2008, 09:06:22 pm
Thanks for all your advice.


yes i think varistream and 100 psi are my next purchase.

and yes it does run when i stop the water, but i dont know what a pressure switch is lol.....

so i think its working but getting ready for the scrappers.

thanks again,

Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: d s windowcleaning on February 13, 2008, 09:21:19 pm
varistream & shuflo are great together i dont no about new varistream but the dial one once teething problems were sorted i couldnt fault it.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 13, 2008, 09:25:01 pm
THATS WHAT I WILL DO THEN.. ;).


im just so tight, i will search around forever to find a bargain... and get stressed, i guess you already know that (that im tight)

 ;D ::)

Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 13, 2008, 10:52:51 pm
Better today now leaks fixed, it is slow to alter flow rate when changing height though but it does eventualy catch up.
I've read about pressure problems with these things in the past, i can't understand why, i can't have mine above setting 1 or it just blasts out. settings go from 0 to 9. setting 0- just a tad too slow, setting 1- just a tad too much.
I would consider the ready made pump box gazza.

Tony
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 13, 2008, 10:55:51 pm
If you have a strainer it make the varistream and pump perform completley different,i took it off and used it how i did before it performed terrible with the strainer fittted.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 13, 2008, 11:07:39 pm
If you have a strainer it make the varistream and pump perform completley different,i took it off and used it how i did before it performed terrible with the strainer fittted.

There is a new type strainer fitted to the cleantech ones dude. not the same as the others used to be. ;)

Tony
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 13, 2008, 11:11:35 pm
If it`s the plastic 1 with the wing nut screw it`s the one i`m on about,they really mess about with the flowrate by this i mean you have to turn the varistream up a lot higher to get a good amount at the brush.If a pump lasts 2 years you`ve had your moneys worth out of it anyway,i don`t bother with a strainer.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 13, 2008, 11:13:01 pm
Thanks lads , its a funny one, as varistream and 100psi seem to be the only options, a little concerned about the performance of them now,

but what choice do i have.?


i will take what you say on board , thanks
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 13, 2008, 11:14:48 pm
Varistream+shurflo 100psi pump and a 100mtrs of minibore are a match made for WFP.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 13, 2008, 11:16:16 pm
If it`s the plastic 1 with the wing nut screw it`s the one i`m on about,they really mess about with the flowrate by this i mean you have to turn the varistream up a lot higher to get a good amount at the brush.If a pump lasts 2 years you`ve had your moneys worth out of it anyway,i don`t bother with a strainer.

Like i said, i can only use it at setting 1 cos' otherwise it'd blow mi brush off. no flow rate probs at the brush end here dude.

Tony
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 13, 2008, 11:18:40 pm
what are the sizes of the out and inlets of the 100 psi.... 40 psi is half inch

Gary.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 13, 2008, 11:20:09 pm
You can get reducers for the in and outlets on the pump if you need to.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 13, 2008, 11:21:17 pm
yes i know but what are the fittings...100 psi  ???
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 13, 2008, 11:23:16 pm
Well what ever you order,tell them whether you use hoselock or john guest fittings and they`ll send you the appropriote fittings.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 13, 2008, 11:24:57 pm
ok thanks for that  ;)
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 14, 2008, 05:33:13 pm
The jury's still out, no problem with pressure, just keeping it at a constant level. it seems to have a mind of it's own ???

Tony
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: TennetClean on February 14, 2008, 05:55:07 pm
Noisy pumps are very awkward to deal with, especially if you happen to be in an elevator at the time.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: TVCS on February 14, 2008, 08:21:30 pm
I think I will remove my strainer and see what the crack is then.  Today.  2 poles working and the battery was charged last night, by 11 0 clock the battery was dead and so I had to get me old trusty ladders out again.    this varistream seams to be such a ball ache at the moment.  When I get it sorted I'm sure it will be better than not having one.  I hope.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 14, 2008, 08:32:02 pm
are there any other options to varistream.?
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on February 14, 2008, 08:43:17 pm
eco flow..window cleaning warehouse,cheaper but ive not used one
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: frames to panes on February 14, 2008, 08:50:30 pm
Macmac, have you looked to see what your pressure setting is on? (like the old blue dial but digital now). Mines set up with microbore and runs fine apart from an airlock that seems to get into the pipe from tank to pump via strainer. I sometimes have to run it at max to clear it out for a few seconds.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on February 14, 2008, 09:08:33 pm
mac mac try old style surflo strainer
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 14, 2008, 10:50:08 pm
Macmac, have you looked to see what your pressure setting is on? (like the old blue dial but digital now). Mines set up with microbore and runs fine apart from an airlock that seems to get into the pipe from tank to pump via strainer. I sometimes have to run it at max to clear it out for a few seconds.

This is my problem-

Setting 1 is sometimes too much flow & setting 0 is sometimes too little. Sometimes they are both equaly perfect & just as i get a nice flow i lower the pole & it's all to cock. spent more time today running back to van to switch between 0 & 1. funny thing is- setting 0 (the lowest it will go) works fine with pole at 24ft but when i lower it to do bottoms the flow almost stops, which seems back to front to me- lower setting working better at height ???
I just wish a setting would be constant no matter what the height, i thought that was the idea behind "intelligent" flow control ::)

Tony
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 14, 2008, 10:56:40 pm
This is the good thing about the varistream with the dial,it`s a lot easier to adjust to the setting you need,just turn it on and off and it`s always the same flowrate.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 14, 2008, 11:01:24 pm
I'm wondering if the digital one is at all programable, so you can adjust the factory settings. anyone know?

Tony
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 14, 2008, 11:09:44 pm
That`s the trouble with it you have to choose a number,there`s no in between.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 14, 2008, 11:13:31 pm
That`s the trouble with it you have to choose a number,there`s no in between.

I need a setting 1.5 ;D
I'll give it a couple of weeks & if no better i'll be on the blower! >:(

Tony
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: frames to panes on February 14, 2008, 11:17:35 pm
The digital one is almost the same as the old one as far as i can tell. Pressure and flow are adjusted in the same way as the old one except your pressing buttons instead of dial twiddling. To adjust pressure it's all done from the outside - far easier. Mine seemed to work very well without much adjustment. I run the flow on four and sometimes five if it's cold or a first clean. I think my pressure setting is on C. (microbore) seems more settled than my old one.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 14, 2008, 11:19:12 pm
Just get the dial version there more accurate with the flowrate,set it and it will stay the same allday or for as long as you want.They had the new one brought out cos it looks pretty over the old one.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 14, 2008, 11:35:28 pm
The digital one is almost the same as the old one as far as i can tell. Pressure and flow are adjusted in the same way as the old one except your pressing buttons instead of dial twiddling. To adjust pressure it's all done from the outside - far easier. Mine seemed to work very well without much adjustment. I run the flow on four and sometimes five if it's cold or a first clean. I think my pressure setting is on C. (microbore) seems more settled than my old one.

Dave do you mean there are settings for flow AND pressure?

Tony
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: NWH on February 14, 2008, 11:43:19 pm
It needs setting for your hosereel,that might be your problem with the change in flowrate.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 14, 2008, 11:52:23 pm
It needs setting for your hosereel,that might be your problem with the change in flowrate.

Dont know what you mean dude, it goes from 0 to 9 to pump faster or slower, didn't get a manual with it. ???

Tony
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: Alex Wingrove on February 14, 2008, 11:53:24 pm
Just buy a flojet and get a tap,

what more could you possibly want,

someone please tell me why this isnt as good or better than the sureflo with varistream
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: macmac on February 15, 2008, 12:15:59 am
The digital one is almost the same as the old one as far as i can tell. Pressure and flow are adjusted in the same way as the old one except your pressing buttons instead of dial twiddling. To adjust pressure it's all done from the outside - far easier. Mine seemed to work very well without much adjustment. I run the flow on four and sometimes five if it's cold or a first clean. I think my pressure setting is on C. (microbore) seems more settled than my old one.

Dave do you mean there are settings for flow AND pressure?

Tony

Anybody?
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: frames to panes on February 15, 2008, 08:06:51 am
Yes same as the old one dead easy, i'll get the instruction sheet out later today - got to run daughter to school.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 15, 2008, 04:22:56 pm
THANKS FOR REPLIES AND HELP HERE.   ;)
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: TennetClean on February 15, 2008, 04:45:25 pm
Your Welcome  ;D

Noisy pumps are annoying, but its only when they're smelly too that they're a real problem.
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 15, 2008, 04:48:43 pm
Your Welcome ;D

Noisy pumps are annoying, but its only when they're smelly too that they're a real problem.

pumps... lol

you dont hear them called that nowadays, do you... lol... takes me back aah
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: frames to panes on February 15, 2008, 06:29:07 pm
Daps!
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: geefree on February 15, 2008, 06:35:38 pm
Daps!


whats daps ?
Title: Re: NOISY PUMP
Post by: frames to panes on February 15, 2008, 07:22:48 pm
Westcountry plimsoles.