Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: D.Salkeld_Ltd on February 04, 2008, 09:33:05 pm
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Hiya Backpackers 8)
I got a little problem with one of my Backpacks:
I have flow valves on the poles and when I turn of the water the flow stops but the Backpack pump still runs ??? ??? ???
There don't seem to be any leaks? Leaks normally make the pump cycle?
I wondered if the pressure switch needs adjusting?
Any Ideas Mates
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Do yourself a favour and get a van mount!! ;)
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Do yourself a favour and get a van mount!! ;)
What for ?
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Do yourself a favour and get a van mount!! ;)
What for ?
And the award for the most stupid question ever goes to..... ronaldo!!! ;D
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Whats stupid about it ? try and answer it you or is writing down a another pointless reply the best you can do?
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Do I really have to spell out the obvious to you ???
Carrying 20ltrs of water around on your back all day is never a good idea. Having to refill with water every 10minutes or so is annoying and time consuming. A van mount is faster and easier to use, you will earn more money, be less exhausted, and will be less likely to suffer with back problems in the future!!
Is that enough for you? or have you got any more daft questions ;D
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Dont listen to the kids David they obviously havn't got anything better to do.
To try to answer your question it sounds like the pressure switch cycling ??
There is a way of re setting them I will try to find the thread.
Bear
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This is what Alex posted on another thread:
Sounds like you need to fine tune the pressure switch setting on the pump.
Follow the instruction on this bottom section of this page:
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/What_pressure_delivery_pump_will_I_need_.html
Sounds like the spring inside the pressure switch has slightly altered with age and needs to be adjusted so that it cuts off more positively. Follow the steps outlined on the web link and it should remedy the situation. Should take no more than 5 minutes with a Philips screwdriver!
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Do I really have to spell out the obvious to you ???
Carrying 20ltrs of water around on your back all day is never a good idea. Having to refill with water every 10minutes or so is annoying and time consuming. A van mount is faster and easier to use, you will earn more money, be less exhausted, and will be less likely to suffer with back problems in the future!!
Is that enough for you? or have you got any more daft questions ;D
Well what a load of sh##e that reply is,
Carryiing 20 ltrs on your back - you dont you carry it
Having to refill every 10 minutes- you dont
You will earn more money with a van mount- on domestic no way ive tried it and didnt, thats why i use a backpack.
Exhausted - i dont think so, let me no if you need any more info on one.
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groundhog, you've taken some flak on here and always the same. You do make me laugh. ;D
I think that using a trolley or backpack will teach you very quickly how to be incredibly efficient with water consumption because of the points you made.
My best earning days are due to refilling the 25 litre barrel. When i do the same days using a van mount i only earn 75% of this before i've ran out of water.
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Dont listen to the kids David they obviously havn't got anything better to do.
Bear
Who are you calling kids Sunshine ??? I was actually giving David some excellent advice, the same advice that somebody gave me when I used to use a backpack, I'm glad I listened, best thing I ever did was to swap my backpack for a van mount!! ;)
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Do I really have to spell out the obvious to you ???
Carrying 20ltrs of water around on your back all day is never a good idea. Having to refill with water every 10minutes or so is annoying and time consuming. A van mount is faster and easier to use, you will earn more money, be less exhausted, and will be less likely to suffer with back problems in the future!!
Is that enough for you? or have you got any more daft questions ;D
Well what a load of sh##e that reply is,
Carryiing 20 ltrs on your back - you dont you carry it
Having to refill every 10 minutes- you dont
You will earn more money with a van mount- on domestic no way ive tried it and didnt, thats why i use a backpack.
Exhausted - i dont think so, let me no if you need any more info on one.
You have somebody to carry your backpack for you then? ;D
Ok I'll change every 10 minutes to refill reguarly, if it makes you feel better!! ;)
Are you saying that the majority of window cleaners on this site who use van mounts are wrong and would be better off using a backpack? I don't think so! been there done that, and the trolley thing, not going back to that foolish way of working!!! The van mount is better in every way as far as I'm concerned!! ;)
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the key part of that reply is the last bit "AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED" both systems have pro's and con's
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groundhog, you've taken some flak on here and always the same. You do make me laugh. ;D
I think that using a trolley or backpack will teach you very quickly how to be incredibly efficient with water consumption because of the points you made.
My best earning days are due to refilling the 25 litre barrel. When i do the same days using a van mount i only earn 75% of this before i've ran out of water.
Hi Mark, I'm glad I make you laugh!! 8) But I haven't got a clue what the rest of your post is about, it makes no sense!! How can your best earning days be due to filling up 25 ltr barrels. If you run out of water on your van mount you need a bigger tank, obvious really!!! ;D
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If you have a van setup you need the right kind of work for it
I started with a backpack and quickly realised it wasn't for me, I was lucky and was able buy a van and a good setup and almost start again from scratch with my customer base, strangely enougth I still clean some small terraced houses for £7 a go and make my money on them, unless you have tried both you cant really comment on what's right but if backpack was the only choice then I'd go back to ladders.
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Groundhog, the best way to look at it is on how your work and round is and see what suits you best and what makes you your money quicker.
Like you said you tried a back pack and didnt like it so you changed in your situation for the better, just as i tried a vanmount and changed to make my life better.
I never said anything about all the lads on here that use vanmounts are wrong and should change, if they were unhappy then they would,its all horses for coarses i tried a trolley system first that was worse as my round has loads of steps so it proved to be of no use at all to me.
The trolley was sold to another wc off here and his work suits it to a t, things are only as good as the situation your using them in allows them to be.
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Groundhog, the best way to look at it is on how your work and round is and see what suits you best and what makes you your money quicker.
Like you said you tried a back pack and didnt like it so you changed in your situation for the better, just as i tried a vanmount and changed to make my life better.
I never said anything about all the lads on here that use vanmounts are wrong and should change, if they were unhappy then they would,its all horses for coarses i tried a trolley system first that was worse as my round has loads of steps so it proved to be of no use at all to me.
The trolley was sold to another wc off here and his work suits it to a t, things are only as good as the situation your using them in allows them to be.
;D ;D ;D :) ;)
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You still haven't explained how you manage to use your back pack without carrying it, unless you have attached a hose reel to it, but then it would be just a very small van mount!!! ;D
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You still haven't explained how you manage to use your back pack without carrying it, unless you have attached a hose reel to it, but then it would be just a very small van mount!!! ;D
you put it on a sack truck, you must have seen the pics on here
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Hiya Backpackers 8)
I got a little problem with one of my Backpacks:
I have flow valves on the poles and when I turn of the water the flow stops but the Backpack pump still runs ??? ??? ???
There don't seem to be any leaks? Leaks normally make the pump cycle?
I wondered if the pressure switch needs adjusting?
Any Ideas Mates
Hi Dave
the only time my BP does that is when its empty you can turn of the Tap and the pump will continue until its switched off, So I would look for an air lock, it could be inside the BP below the battery, Just a thought Mate. ;)
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I have all type of work on my round, from small bungalows to huge mansions, and even bigger care homes. But the same applies to all of them, I stop my van, get out, pick up my pole and walk from window to window, when I have finished I walk back and reel in the hose, how could a backpack possibly make that any easier?
When I used the backpack, I would do the same except I had about 20 ltrs of water weighing me down, and I would have to make regular trips back to the van to refill, not a good way to work if you ask me!!!! ;)
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tbh
i dont use a backpack, i ue a trolley with a 25 L barrel in, it only takes 1 min to change over a barrel, so no lost time, i guess it will save time over a van mount, no hose thats caught in a rose bush, not cleaning dog crap of hoses, no hose snagging on anything and everything
i have the space in my van for a van mount, BUT i still cannot see what benefit it will give me over my trolley
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You still haven't explained how you manage to use your back pack without carrying it, unless you have attached a hose reel to it, but then it would be just a very small van mount!!! ;D
you put it on a sack truck, you must have seen the pics on here
Then it is a trolley!! ;)
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tbh
i dont use a backpack, i ue a trolley with a 25 L barrel in, it only takes 1 min to change over a barrel, so no lost time, i guess it will save time over a van mount, no hose thats caught in a rose bush, not cleaning dog crap of hoses, no hose snagging on anything and everything
i have the space in my van for a van mount, BUT i still cannot see what benefit it will give me over my trolley
If it takes 1 minute to change a barrel then that IS lost time!!! how many times do you have to do that in a day, what about the time walking back to the van and then back to the job?
I started off with a trolley, then went on to a back pack, and have had my van mount for about 2 years now, and theres no way I would consider going back to trolleys or backpacks!!!
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Groundhog,
I respect YOUR opinion. But you are out of order in this thred >:(
1. The thred is entitled "Question for fellow backpackers"
You are not a fellow backpacker ??? ???
2. I DID NOT ask whether I should use a backpack or not ??? ::)
I asked a technical question about my backpack.
So, unless you have any constructive advise. I would respectfully ask you to:
SOD OFF ;D ;D ;D
It is unnecessary remarks like yours that upset this forum >:( >:(
David
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Bear,
Thanks for that. I'll take a look tomorrow night. Mind you try getting to the adjuster screw on a backpack ::) ::)
Jeff,
That's another thought I had. I've wacked it on full bore with the pole held lower than the backpack but still the same. Any Ideas how to shift the air lock and cure it?
Thanks
David
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Groundhog,
I respect YOUR opinion. But you are out of order in this thred >:(
1. The thred is entitled "Question for fellow backpackers"
You are not a fellow backpacker ??? ???
2. I DID NOT ask whether I should use a backpack or not ??? ::)
I asked a technical question about my backpack.
So, unless you have any constructive advise. I would respectfully ask you to:
SOD OFF ;D ;D ;D
It is unnecessary remarks like yours that upset this forum >:( >:(
David
How rude!!! :o
I am a fellow backpack user, (a very occasional one!)
If you had any sense you would listen to me and get yourself a van mount like I said, I'm just trying to help!! :(
By the way you spell thred - T-H-R-E-A-D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Dave ive got a spare b,pack in my garage if your stuck let me no and you can borrow it if you need it to earn a few pennies if yours has to go and be repaired.
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tbh
i dont use a backpack, i ue a trolley with a 25 L barrel in, it only takes 1 min to change over a barrel, so no lost time, i guess it will save time over a van mount, no hose thats caught in a rose bush, not cleaning dog crap of hoses, no hose snagging on anything and everything
i have the space in my van for a van mount, BUT i still cannot see what benefit it will give me over my trolley
If it takes 1 minute to change a barrel then that IS lost time!!! how many times do you have to do that in a day, what about the time walking back to the van and then back to the job?
I started off with a trolley, then went on to a back pack, and have had my van mount for about 2 years now, and theres no way I would consider going back to trolleys or backpacks!!!
Hmmm 4 - 6 times a day, 1 of them will be when i stop for a bite to eat, so thats 5 mins max, dont tell me you dont spend more than 5 mins a day with a snagged hose
i start my day by placing a barrel at the house i know i will need it, which helps in the time scale
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tbh
Hmmm 4 - 6 times a day, 1 of them will be when i stop for a bite to eat, so thats 5 mins max, dont tell me you dont spend more than 5 mins a day with a snagged hose
i start my day by placing a barrel at the house i know i will need it, which helps in the time scale
No I don't and I don't stop for a bite to eat either! Thats for wimps, I eat on the run!! 8)
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Bear,
Thanks for that. I'll take a look tomorrow night. Mind you try getting to the adjuster screw on a backpack ::) ::)
Jeff,
That's another thought I had. I've wacked it on full bore with the pole held lower than the backpack but still the same. Any Ideas how to shift the air lock and cure it?
Thanks
David
If I think about it Dave, like I said it only happens on mine when the tank is empty, I was wondering if the filter could have a partial blockage, thats another pain in the rear to get to, but worth a look.
Regarding an air lock, take off the battery case and get to the piping inside, Have a look for any leaks or for the inlet side sucking air, if not switch it on and squeeze the tubing to prime it pipes.
This is what is says in the manual:-
Problem
Pump operates but cycles or will not shut off when wand handle is released.
Check
Open the spray tip slightly until the pump stops cycling. Turn off pump, bleed system pressure.
disconnect spray lance from handle and check that the spring loaded plunger in the handle is free from debris.
Check all discharge hose connections, including connection at pump for leaks.
The word lance in our case referes to the pole. :)
HTH
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tbh
Hmmm 4 - 6 times a day, 1 of them will be when i stop for a bite to eat, so thats 5 mins max, dont tell me you dont spend more than 5 mins a day with a snagged hose
i start my day by placing a barrel at the house i know i will need it, which helps in the time scale
No I don't and I don't stop for a bite to eat either! Thats for wimps, I eat on the run!! 8)
i allways stop for a few mins for lunch, i like to eat with nice cean hands, so i clean my hands, eat my lunch and then do my half days paperwork ;) of course thats taken my 10 mins of my day
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tbh
Hmmm 4 - 6 times a day, 1 of them will be when i stop for a bite to eat, so thats 5 mins max, dont tell me you dont spend more than 5 mins a day with a snagged hose
i start my day by placing a barrel at the house i know i will need it, which helps in the time scale
No I don't and I don't stop for a bite to eat either! Thats for wimps, I eat on the run!! 8)
i allways stop for a few mins for lunch, i like to eat with nice cean hands, so i clean my hands, eat my lunch and then do my half days paperwork ;) of course thats taken my 10 mins of my day
I would have cleaned a £15 house in that time!! ;D
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Hi Mark, I'm glad I make you laugh!! 8) But I haven't got a clue what the rest of your post is about, it makes no sense!! How can your best earning days be due to filling up 25 ltr barrels. If you run out of water on your van mount you need a bigger tank, obvious really!!! ;D
i have a 400 litre tank and that is enough when i'm refilling a barrel. I plug the trolley into it sometimes, other times i just use a flojet pump without a varistream. I have also used a flow controller to turn off the water. I have a submersible pump in the tank and carry just the 1 barrel and that is filling while i am back knocking or leaving a leaflet.
The reason why i earn more using the trolley detached is that i get more work done with the 400 litres than i do when i use a van mount, with or without a varistream.
I haven't said it was faster but i can do 2 semis with 1 barrel and generally can turn the water right down so i finish the area rather than go back to do 1 or 2 the next day.
That is why i have earnt more with trolley rather than van mount.
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Hi Mark, I'm glad I make you laugh!! 8) But I haven't got a clue what the rest of your post is about, it makes no sense!! How can your best earning days be due to filling up 25 ltr barrels. If you run out of water on your van mount you need a bigger tank, obvious really!!! ;D
i have a 400 litre tank and that is enough when i'm refilling a barrel. I plug the trolley into it sometimes, other times i just use a flojet pump without a varistream. I have also used a flow controller to turn off the water. I have a submersible pump in the tank and carry just the 1 barrel and that is filling while i am back knocking or leaving a leaflet.
The reason why i earn more using the trolley detached is that i get more work done with the 400 litres than i do when i use a van mount, with or without a varistream.
I haven't said it was faster but i can do 2 semis with 1 barrel and generally can turn the water right down so i finish the area rather than go back to do 1 or 2 the next day.
That is why i have earnt more with trolley rather than van mount.
Like I said you need a bigger tank!!! ;)
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Bear,
Thanks for that. I'll take a look tomorrow night. Mind you try getting to the adjuster screw on a backpack ::) ::)
Jeff,
That's another thought I had. I've wacked it on full bore with the pole held lower than the backpack but still the same. Any Ideas how to shift the air lock and cure it?
Thanks
David
If I think about it Dave, like I said it only happens on mine when the tank is empty, I was wondering if the filter could have a parcial blockage, thats another pain in the rear to get to, but worth a look.
Regarding an air lock, take off the battery case and get to the piping inside, Have a look for any leaks or for the inlet side sucking air, if not switch it on and squeeze the tubing to prime it pipes.
This is what is says in the manual:-
Problem
Pump operates but cycles or will not shut off when wand handle is released.
Check
Open the spray tip slightly until the pump stops cycling. Turn off pump, bleed system pressure.
disconnect spray lance from handle and check that the spring loaded plunger in the handle is free from debris.
Check all discharge hose connections, including connection at pump for leaks.
The word lance in our case referes to the pole. :)
HTH
Thanks Jeff,
I bunged the manual in the botton of the box ::) ::) ::) Bit like that with manuals i'm affraid ::) ;D
Dave ive got a spare b,pack in my garage if your stuck let me no and you can borrow it if you need it to earn a few pennies if yours has to go and be repaired.
Thanks Ronaldo..........do you want to SELL it?....................
Doh...........Maybe not. You've got it for the same reason as I want it for.....................................
A SPARE....................DOH ::)
Thanks
David
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lol
i don't really want a bigger tank cos that will mean a bigger van as well and 400 litres does me nicely. I can earn good money with that amount of water, but my point is and was that it is possible to stretch water even further than anyone using a van mount, with or without flow control valves. Jeff brimble excluded.
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Good for you Mark, but in my opinion stretching out the water that you use means working slower, I use a high flow rate which allows me to work at maximum speed and still do a good job! Anyway if your happy with the way that your working then thats great, I'm just trying to give you the benefit of my experiences.
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hiya bud, it sounds to me like your pressure switch does need adjuting, its not as hard as you may think, theres 2 screws holdint the plate to the backpack, if you cant get away with it, try and just un do the one screw, and the one under the pump dont trun the full way outbecause its a right pain to do. mine doesnt continue to cycle but it does turn on and off...and its well annoying!
and to add to this thread, i now have an employee, we run out of a pug partner, with 400 litres a day. i have 2 van mounts in there and a backpack. since putting the new van mount in there, i havent even used it! the backpack is so good that i just cant be weaned off it. if my employee didnt have a bad back id get him on one to
he works on the front with the van mount and i fly round the back with the backpack. i put my backpack at the back whilst im getting the money, and he fills it up with the other van mount. i never notice filling times, and it doesnt take that long. before i had the other van mount, i had 3 x 25 litre barrels and my full backpack, so 95 litres, and he was on the van mount with 400 litres and i never had to fill up from the big tank! and i usually had water left over, i reakon with me just doing the backs i only used about 80 - 90 litres a day. whislt my employee doing just the fronts was using well over 200...
im not starting a debate on whos is better because ive had em all and use them all. but if you want speed and use less water, backpack is the way forward in my opinion.
my setup is perfect, 1 van mount on the fronts, 1 backpack round the back. superb setup if i dont say so myself lol ;D
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im not starting a debate on whos is better because ive had em all and use them all. but if you want speed and use less water, backpack is the way forward in my opinion.
How can lugging around 20 ltrs of water on your back all day be the way forward? By the time you've got the thing on your back I would have got round the back and started with my van mount and microbore hose ;D If I wanted to use less water I could simply turn the flow rate down!!!
Using a backpack is a sure way to a bad back!! The best and quickest way to clean windows has got to be a van mount with microbore hose and a lightweight pole! ;)
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im not starting a debate on whos is better because ive had em all and use them all. but if you want speed and use less water, backpack is the way forward in my opinion.
How can lugging around 20 ltrs of water on your back all day be the way forward? By the time you've got the thing on your back I would have got round the back and started with my van mount and microbore hose ;D If I wanted to use less water I could simply turn the flow rate down!!!
Using a backpack is a sure way to a bad back!! The best and quickest way to clean windows has got to be a van mount with microbore hose and a lightweight pole! ;)
cant be arsed argueing, i pick my back up like a rucksake, and walk round, i dont get caught on anything. and put it back in the van without getting caught. no "grrr hose caught round the bike, wheelie bin, car wheels...etc" for me
your obviously not as manly as me
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There's nothing manly about a bad back!! ;D
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heeheehee. groundhog is back!
ps david am sorry to have taken part in hijacking your thread a little bit. I hope you get sorted.
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There's nothing manly about a bad back!! ;D
I agree,i used mine when i first got it for a morning and that was it back in the shed.That`s 20kilos when full your lifting around allday.I think i`ll stick with pulling a little bit of minibore around allday,it`s a bit lighter.
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i only feel it right to end this conversation with blah blah blah blah
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A useful alternative happy medium between a backpack or van mount would be a trolley. No carrying the water, (just pushing it on wheels for the whimps, (that's me).
Personally I prefer a van mount system but if the need ever arises I would chose to use a trolley for the odd, awkward job or a backpack on wheels.
My last backpack I used, I through over a balcony 4 storeys up because it was so frustrating working so slowly with having to keep filling it up and sorting out flat batteries and pump problems. That day I'd had the last straw and through it over the balcony. It was the best move I ever made but I don't recommend throwing them from height like I did because they never work again,lol.
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i only feel it right to end this conversation with blah blah blah blah
Highly intelligent post!!!! ;D
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My last backpack I used, I through over a balcony 4 storeys up
The best thing for them, nice one!!! ;D
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groundhog, I do 4k a month on domestic work 16x250 a day, (average 20 jobs @ 12 pounds each. with one backpack and 10 barrells of water in the back of my van. Ive had the same pack and pole for 3 years. Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack? (The answer you are looking for Is NO!)
And by the way If I want an Ionic or Brodex or any other vanmount system I could go and buy it cash. I choose not to and I am more than happy with that decision.
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groundhog, I do 4k a month on domestic work 16x250 a day, (average 20 jobs @ 12 pounds each. with one backpack and 10 barrells of water in the back of my van. Ive had the same pack and pole for 3 years. Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack? (The answer you are looking for Is NO!)
And by the way If I want an Ionic or Brodex or any other vanmount system I could go and buy it cash. I choose not to and I am more than happy with that decision.
good one you BVC, if it works well why change it, I have never used a back pack myself as I have a van mount, but fair play to you matey ;)
Ian
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groundhog, I do 4k a month on domestic work 16x250 a day, (average 20 jobs @ 12 pounds each. with one backpack and 10 barrells of water in the back of my van. Ive had the same pack and pole for 3 years. Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack? (The answer you are looking for Is NO!)
And by the way If I want an Ionic or Brodex or any other vanmount system I could go and buy it cash. I choose not to and I am more than happy with that decision.
superb mate
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hey...he aint called groundhog for no reason......its the same post every day ;D ;D ;D.
but i agree with him.....if your work is suited to van mount then it would be easier and more cost effective.
but, if your work is suited to backpacks then it would be easier and more cost effective.
hey this condition is catchin. ;D
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Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack?
All of the above!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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And by the way If I want an Ionic or Brodex or any other vanmount system I could go and buy it cash. I choose not to and I am more than happy with that decision.
I wouldn't advise anyone to buy one of those systems!! Total rip off as far as I'm concerned!! I use a groundhog system, a second hand tank, a pump box taken off of my old trolley, a 100mtr reel of microbore and a brodex pole, probably didn't cost much more than your backpack set up. Mind you I also have a backpack in my van, but because the van mount is quicker and easier to use I rarely take it out of the van!! ;D ;)
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groundhog, I do 4k a month on domestic work 16x250 a day, (average 20 jobs @ 12 pounds each.
I don't have many jobs that cheap, but I reguarly do 30+ jobs a day! Mind you if I used a backpack I would probably only manage to do 20 as well!! ;)
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heeheehee. groundhog is back!
Back with a vengence!! ;)
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Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack?
All of the above!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Groundhog, ive been reading a fantastic book on cognitive restructuring. theres a great chapter that deals with the subject of transference. What some people do (usually because there not getting any) is take all the negative emotions and thoughts they have toward themselves and "transfer" them onto someone else in a somewhat shallow effort to make themselves feel better. Its a good idea to take stock of any issues one may have in their lives and deal with them head on, rather than antagonise innocent bystanders.
"Just trying to give you the benefit of my experiences"
And by the way, my dad could well have your dad!! :P
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Groundhog, ive been reading a fantastic book on cognitive restructuring. theres a great chapter that deals with the subject of transference. What some people do (usually because there not getting any) is take all the negative emotions and thoughts they have toward themselves and "transfer" them onto someone else in a somewhat shallow effort to make themselves feel better. Its a good idea to take stock of any issues one may have in their lives and deal with them head on, rather than antagonise innocent bystanders.
"Just trying to give you the benefit of my experiences"
And by the way, my dad could well have your dad!! :P
Sounds like a crap book to me, I'd stick to the Beano if I were you!! ;D
Anyway I was just answering the mans question, I had never used any of those words!
By the way my Dads well hard, just like me!!! ;)
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Game set and match to Groundhog!!!! ;D
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Am I cheap, amateur, stupid, overworked or skint because I use a backpack?
All of the above!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Groundhog, ive been reading a fantastic book on cognitive restructuring. theres a great chapter that deals with the subject of transference. What some people do (usually because there not getting any) is take all the negative emotions and thoughts they have toward themselves and "transfer" them onto someone else in a somewhat shallow effort to make themselves feel better. Its a good idea to take stock of any issues one may have in their lives and deal with them head on, rather than antagonise innocent bystanders.
"Just trying to give you the benefit of my experiences"
And by the way, my dad could well have your dad!! :P
;D well put
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Right,
Off out in the shed to sort out the leaks in the BP's!!
I'm fairly sure it's down to leaks in the inlet and outlet pipe joints. Going to put some jubelee clips on em all. Then maybe adjust the pressure switches.................................
We'll see ::) ::) ::) ::)
David
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Right,
Off out in the shed to sort out the leaks in the BP's!!
I'm fairly sure it's down to leaks in the inlet and outlet pipe joints. Going to put some jubelee clips on em all. Then maybe adjust the pressure switches.................................
We'll see ::) ::) ::) ::)
David
Your obsessed!!!! :o I bet your a bundle of laughs at dinner parties!!!!! ;D
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Like I said,
A classic textbook example of transference. Groundhog are you sure you didnt participate in the casestudy for the aforementioned book?
Step 1:
Make a personal attack on someone else and demean or belittle their opinions or feelings.
"Sounds like a crap book to me Id stick to the Beano"
Step 2:
Once a personal slight has been made on the said individual use the opportunity to try to validate and excuse our behaviour
"Anyway I was only answering the mans question"
Step 3:
Once we feel validated and excused we now have opportunity to make statements of our own inflated self worth.
"My dads hard, just like me."
Step 4: (optional) This step is usually taken if an idividual is worried or not confident enough in their ability to deal with any retaliation to steps 1,2, or 3. An effort to effectively "close the door" on any further discussion on the subject is made.
"Game, set and match to groundhog"
I found It very interesting you found it neccessary not only to go ahead and take step 4 but to make that statement in a completely new post.
BVC ;D
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I found I very interesting you found it neccessary not only to go ahead and take step 4 but to make that statement in a completely new post.
BVC ;D
Great use of English BVC ;D ;D you are making a complete tw#t of yourself!!! ;D Take my advice and don't believe everything you read!!! ;D ;) And as I said before I'd stick to the Beano if I were you!!! ;D ;D ;D and by the way way my Dad is hard just like me!! ;) and once again Game Set & Match to Groundhog!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;) ;
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Interesting BVC, i expect we all do this transference. What annoys me is when people project. Ie. he must be stealing with all that cash about, or she's a looker and bound to be playing away. What they really mean is they would in those situations.
I'm anti back packs and barrels. Whichever side of the divide we are, i'm sure we are all busy transfering away merrily, it's just that groundhog and me feel we do the job properly.(we don't transfer using barrels).
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I have read all of this now (only just had the time). I am a backpack user and would not change. My van mount only comes out when absolutely necessary. I too have a similar problem to Dave with it running all the time. It is a pain. So when you have it sorted Dave please let me know.
As for benefits over the van mount there are too many IMO. I think it is very short sighted and provocative to slight someone elses working method. groundhog you have your preferences and thats fine, for you! I have mine and so does Dave so thats fine too. We all have different working methods and should all be respected not slated!
I don't often retaliate to postsput on here as I think most people just antagonise for fun but this one just got my back up so I felt I had no choice.
As for 25kg on my back. It is nothing! I can still climb over gates, walls etc even when it is full. It is what you get used to!
Only thing now is I do need a new strap/pad for the back. Any ideas Dave!
I will finish by saying that I actually spoke to Dave before I bought my backpack and what a top man with top advice. It is good when people give up their time to speak to you with no gain just out of courtesy.
So I would suggest Ground hog that you crawl back to where your name suggests!!
Rant over!!
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As for 25kg on my back. It is nothing! I can still climb over gates, walls etc even when it is full. It is what you get used to!
Try telling that to an Osteopath!!! ;)
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I have no back problems at all. As I said you should keep your blinkered opinions to yourself! A discussion is where people listen and not antagonise. You only seem able to do the latter!
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Groundhog
Thanks for pointing out my mistake, what I have done is, (being a mature adult) taken note of the fact, that no, I am not perfect and not always right. That given, when presented with evidence of my mistakes or failures I take action to try to rectify them. I have therfore gone back to my post and corrected it.
Maybe you should try doing the same. :P
By the way, there is no book, I completely made it up, to be honest I dont even know what cognitive restructuring is, I just heard it on the telly. I also actually quite enjoy reading the beano when I come across a copy. Although growing up I actually read the Dandy.
I just felt you were overstepping the mark and being a little out of order and as no-one was bringing it to your attention I thought I would wind you up a little in my own way. seems to have worked as you have finally been reduced to calling me a tw*t.
Anyway, friends now?
BVC ;D
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I have no back problems at all. As I said you should keep your blinkered opinions to yourself!
Not yet maybe, but give it a few years of carrying 20+kgs on your back all day and you will guaranteed!!! maybe then you will wish you had listened to my advice!! ;)
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I have no back problems at all. As I said you should keep your blinkered opinions to yourself!
Not yet maybe, but give it a few years of carrying 20+kgs on your back all day and you will guaranteed!!! maybe then you will wish you had listened to my advice!! ;)
I think doing anything repetitive day in day out over several years will give you future problems. Whether it be driving, pen pushing, building or poleing. I try to look after myself regardless of whether I have a specific complaint. I see my osteopath every month, 35 quid well spent I think. Just my opinion. :)
bvc
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I have a prolapsed spine and started backpacking 10 years ago, excercise of any sort is the magic bullet for any back problem.
It's also faster and earns me more money. ££££££
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I see my osteopath every month
bvc
Well next time you visit your Osteopath, ask him his opinion to someone carrying 20+kgs on their back all day, every working day. And see what he says! ;)
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Groundhog. You don't know me or my physical stats. So you have no idea about how I can or cannot cope with 25 kgs on my back! it is only that weight for a very short time. Bottom line is I prefer this method and you prefer yours. Why can't you leave things like that instead of acting like a complete to**er. As I said you only seem out to wind people up and I have no time for people like that.
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Groundhog. You don't know me or my physical stats. So you have no idea about how I can or cannot cope with 25 kgs on my back! it is only that weight for a very short time. Bottom line is I prefer this method and you prefer yours. Why can't you leave things like that instead of acting like a complete to**er. As I said you only seem out to wind people up and I have no time for people like that.
One day you will wish that you had listened to me, mark my words!!! I'm not winding you up, I am giving sound advice, it's up to you whether you want to take that advice or not. ;)
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Sorry to hear the cognitive transfer was an invention. I'm still sure we all do it though.I think many of our posts often reveal more about ousrselves than we are aware. This is the best thread i've ever seen about backpacks by the way.
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Sorry to dissapoint Mr Solubility, but it was going to take something with a little imagination to distract and get our little groundhog out of his hole and start biting.
BVC
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Hi All PROPER Backpack users ;D
(Groundhog EXCLUDED)
Well, after just about stripping my little baby to pieces I eventually found that the pressure switch had failed to work ::) This was caused by a leak in the diaphragm behind the switch itself that pushes the switch. So a new pump was the only option.
The new pump is fitted now and she runs like a purring cat ;D ;D
Thanks
David
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Groundhog,
Just wondering, as you think backpacks are rubbish can I have yours? I will even pay the postage.
BVC
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Well, after just about stripping my little baby to pieces I eventually found that the pressure switch had failed to work ::) This was caused by a leak in the diaphragm behind the switch itself that pushes the switch. So a new pump was the only option.
Fascinating!!! ::) ;)
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Groundhog,
Just wondering, as you think backpacks are rubbish can I have yours? I will even pay the postage.
BVC
In a word NO!!! ;D
Secondly, I have never said that backpacks were rubbish! I merely said that they were not as good as van mounts!!! ;)