Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Richy L on January 16, 2008, 05:22:24 pm
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hi everyone,
I have just been asked to price a big graffiti job. It will take about 4 or 5 days to do. The problem is, i have never quoted for a job this big. I'm affraid to go in too high, but i dont want to go in too low.
Like i said, it should take about four/ five days, but you dont know for sure until you start doing it do you. I have to think about all the chemicals Im going to use too.
I dont want to charge a normal days rate, as it may take a bit longer.
Any idea how much i should charge?... (and can we talk figure please)
Thank you.
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whats your normal day rate?
do you need the work? me not having a clue but pricing it on what i could earn window cleaning and in one place, i reckon 1500-1800 inc chemicals and that stuff,
could you go wrong with that?
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thats what i had in mind, £1500 that is.
Theres going to be two of us on the job. so i need to pay out £100 a day on wages to get someone that knows what they are doing.
Cheers Alex. :)
Anyone else? :)
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.... forgot to mention,
I could do with the work, if the rain continues! my wallet has had a bit of a battering lately with all this weather
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anymore imput?
I need to give this quote in tomorrow
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The first thing I'd do is take a photo and email your chemical supplier and ask them :-
How much chemical you are likely to need given the surface and the paint type etc
How long they recon it should take
How much they would charge as most graffiti chemical manufacturers are contractors themselves
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bang in a quote for six days then you.ll be covered then....wouldn,t want to cutting it too fine
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a lot of firms on large contracts charge by the square metre, by this i mean if a square metre has one tag on then it is priced at the same rate as having four or five tags on,but areas with no graffitti not charged for at all.
as mentioned in earlier post it is always a good idea to take before and after pictures of graffiti removal this way you can justify the area you have cleaned all results can be seen and also you dont get blame for any damage to structure that was there before you started.
as a price guide a lot of firms charge between £8 and £10 a square metre i hope this helps and if you need any more info on chemicals etc then please feel free to email me.
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rich...are you going to use a rotary/water graffiti remover like the mosmatic or chemicals ?
£1500 for a week sounds right...coatex worked opposite my house for one day and charged £2000 !
If the job is in kent I am for hire with my gear !
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Ace, why don't you fill your profile ? As your in Kent I may be able to refer work your way. E mail me with your details, experience etc if your interested
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i'm going to use a spinner/turbo lance.
As for taking photos, the problem is, i cant take photos because if i do, i will need to post about 25/30 photos on here, which isn't really practical.
I went to have another look tonight. i think it will take more like 5 days to do now.
I only want this job if it is worth doing if you know what i mean. So i might charge more than i would get usually, and if i get it great. if not, so be it.
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i dont think you should look at work "thinking i need this" because if they hadn't asked you, you would be none the wiser,
your going to be working all day non stop by the sounds of it, stick in a good price, 5 days on your own £1500, that surly accounts for any mishaps
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You need to take into account the price of materials, some removers are expensive
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You need to take into account the price of materials, some removers are expensive
if your removing graffiti all day, for 5 days, two of us working by the way how much do you think the chemicals will be? - i was think about £200. what do you think john?
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....also..... theres a lot of black paint!! :-\
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Ace, why don't you fill your profile ? As your in Kent I may be able to refer work your way. E mail me with your details, experience etc if your interested
Will do that asap.
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any idea how much the chemicals will cost guys?? .... i need to let her know soon
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richy, why are you using chemicals if you are using a turbo nozzle ?
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turbo nozzles are not good for most graffitti as they can cause to much damage to a lot of surfaces the best approach is use the correct chemical for the surface being cleaned, on some smooth surfaces you will find graffiti wipes are the best approach.
on stone or brick use a graffiti gel and wash off with a pressure washer at a medium pressure prefferably hot water, any areas that still show slightly clean again with a graffitti ghost remover.
turbo nozzles do have there use but shouldnt be the main approach to graffitti removal.
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thanks for that reply trever... my earlier post was based on what i saw on the mosmatic website where they demonstrate a vacuum recovery wall floater stripping graffitti.
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turbo nozzles are not good for most graffitti as they can cause to much damage to a lot of surfaces the best approach is use the correct chemical for the surface being cleaned, on some smooth surfaces you will find graffiti wipes are the best approach.
on stone or brick use a graffiti gel and wash off with a pressure washer at a medium pressure prefferably hot water, any areas that still show slightly clean again with a graffitti ghost remover.
turbo nozzles do have there use but shouldnt be the main approach to graffitti removal.
my main approach for grafffiti removal is chemicals. but the turbo will help it along the way. I have a normal, "fan" lance to use if need be.
I know turbos can damage the surface, i was just saying what i had available to use.
I used some graffiti wipes on part of it, on the corrigated steel, but it did nothing at all for the spray paint. some of the pen started to came off with the wipes. Thats why i need more aggresive paint removers.
I usually use gel from a spray can, but some of this paint is really think, so i thought some stronger stuff should do the job.
i just need to know how much all the chemicals will cost, for all the removers and the ghost remover after.
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richy, why are you using chemicals if you are using a turbo nozzle ?
if i just used the turbo, it wouldnt get rid of the graffiti. you need chemicals too.
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well i got the job!!!! ;D ;D
they said they want it done by thursday evening though, so i've got my brother in to help me, hes done work with me before, so he knows what he doing. I start on site at 8am tomorrow.
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richy if you dont mind me asking wot chemicals do you use and which do you find work best??
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hmmmm. its not going well but im using:
M176 Seldon - Full Power graffiti remover (for porous surfaces)
T018 Seldon - graffiti remover (for plastics and polycarbonates)
T070 Seldon - D-Solve graffiti remover(for brick and masonary work)
K14 Seldon - graffiti remover (spray gel)
also, im using some acid baced brick cleaner,
and hydrochloric acid.
I have been told by two chemical suppliers that these are the bast on the market
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keep your chin up you will be fine, good luck.
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ive found a lot of the graffiti is ghosting, so ive contacted graffitihotline, and they are sending me some for tomorrow, hopefully that'll sort it out
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richt if you dont min could you give me some info about were you get the chemicals from and after you have used the new stuff which is best please!!
any info will be much appreciated!
thanks
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no worries mate.
the seldon stuff i have bought is from www.oceanbusinesssupplies.com (http://www.oceanbusinesssupplies.com)
and www.greenham.com (http://www.greenham.com)
the new stuff i haven't tried yet is from www.graffitihotline.co.uk (http://www.graffitihotline.co.uk)
Ill let you know how i get on with the new stuff.
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just looking bacxk at an old thread...
I found the chemicals from graffiti hotline work very well and seldon "full power".