Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: matt on September 30, 2007, 11:14:01 am
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Ive just got back from 2 comercial jobs i do
the first job i do has a new security guy, he walks up and says " thats a nice bit of kit you have, can you do the top glass with that " i use my unger 9 M pole, so i can
anyways
he then goes on about " i hear you earn loads of money"
i do ok i reply
the last job i had, they window cleaner said he earns 75 qiod a hour, all the time, 6 hours a day, 6 days a week
Hmmmmmm well i dont earn that much
of course, he is now saving to buy some WFP kit and start up part time
Why Oh why, do people feel the need to brag about earning that type of money
i dont get it
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Ive just got back from 2 comercial jobs i do
the first job i do has a new security guy, he walks up and says " thats a nice bit of kit you have, can you do the top glass with that " i use my unger 9 M pole, so i can
anyways
he then goes on about " i hear you earn loads of money"
i do ok i reply
the last job i had, they window cleaner said he earns 75 qiod a hour, all the time, 6 hours a day, 6 days a week
Hmmmmmm well i dont earn that much
of course, he is now saving to buy some WFP kit and start up part time
Why Oh why, do people feel the need to brag about earning that type of money
i dont get it
I don't doubt it's possible to earn that on some jobs but earning that every work hour takes some doing. I do wonder if the guy was being totally truthful. OK, maybe it can be done after years of refining the jobs but bragging about it won't help anyone. I suppose if I got all my work like my top 10% I would be doing very nicely indeed but to get to that will take me a long time I think.
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Over the years you would have to have had the equivilent of 3-4 rounds that have been refined ie all cheap small work dumped and all the cream work built into one round.This is not done overnight and the WCS that tell you they earn this kind of money are more than likely olny bragging unless they have gone through this kind of process,this is why i get annoyed when people say that work is only worth x2 the monthly take.
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All I can say Matt? Is he'll have a big shock coming to him ;D
Mind you w/c pay is probablly better than security guard money and they have to do 12-16 hour shifts.
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I once earned £75 in one day
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I once earned £75 in one day
Stop moaning thats a very good rate for Cornwall (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/rollfunny.gif)
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I have been going a month, and I only earn 75 per day....so far ;)
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Its not just in window cleaning that this happens. As well as being a window cleaner (35 years off and on ) i am also a London Taxi driver (10 years).
Ar5eholes who brag about the money they earn and the jobs they have done are endemic in all trades. Don't believe a word of it they are sad gits trying to big themselves up.
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All I can say Matt? Is he'll have a big shock coming to him ;D
Mind you w/c pay is probablly better than security guard money and they have to do 12-16 hour shifts.
Security guard is a cushy job though. Sit on your bum for 16 ours reading books looking at tv and flashing a torch around every now and then. Call that working?
He is in for a shock indeed.
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i dornt brag how much i earn, just tell tax man i only earn 4000 ;D
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bumper from STOCKPORT mmmmmm
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were abouts in stockport bumper?
i do some work in stockport i may off seen you about?
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I have been going a month, and I only earn 75 per day....so far ;)
i started last year... after my first month of leaflets .. i would be lucky to earn that in one week out of the month... so to say you are on 75 per day after only doing the job one month is staggering and very hard to believe, but hey , who says its not possible... im inexperienced still.
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All I can say Matt? Is he'll have a big shock coming to him ;D
Mind you w/c pay is probablly better than security guard money and they have to do 12-16 hour shifts.
Security guard is a cushy job though. Sit on your bum for 16 ours reading books looking at tv and flashing a torch around every now and then. Call that working?
He is in for a shock indeed.
you forgot to mention, laptop with mobile connection for the internet, i should know am doing it now lol,
i work p/t weekends, i get £5.50 hr, 16 hrs a day, i would not do this 6 or 7 days like most of them do, you have no life, as the rest of the time your not working your sleeping lol, then wfp during the week,
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Nice one! ;D So you can be doing your worklists and invoices while you're getting paid. Very clever!
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Nice one! ;D So you can be doing your worklists and invoices while you're getting paid. Very clever!
no the wife does that for me, come on i am working hard 16 hrs a day he he, dont tel her its easy lol
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Security is a very good business. Uniforms sign written vans, few blokes working for you, stop me if you've heard it.
I've got a friend who's started up. He's had lots of businesses his last one being a TC chip shop which he sold for a lot of money. He says security is excellent.
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It`s exellent if it`s your business like WC but if your a security guard working for someone the moneys C***,you can earn more in a day wc than you can in a week being a security guard beleive me i did that job for a short while after i left school,it`s a job for ex coppers or semi retired not for a fit young bloke.
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we have a window cleaner around here who says he earns around £200 a day, if he can earn that in 4hours like he says he does , hes a clever boy, hes a trad guy, and is a splash and dash merchant, i know ive seen him work.
now this guys is in debt up to his eyeballs, and why hasnt he brought a house if he earns that kind of dosh, £52000 a year, i would, i hate bullpooters.
my rounds are set to around £100- £130 a day, im happy with that, topped up with retained fire brigade money and the odd disco here and there,
im honest with what i earn to all the other window cleaners around here except the bullpooter, he dont need to know what i earn,
some people bullpoo so much that they believe themselves.
Why do it???
Gripe over with.....
Haydn
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With WFP you should be earning £200 a day standing on your head.
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With WFP you should be earning £200 a day standing on your head.
Nah. When I work upside down it definitely drops to about £150
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I'd to think if i have a full days cleaning i'd be earning in excess of £150, of course what you take home to the table is a different story.
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wish i could earn 150 a day how do i do that then
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i could earn that , but the custy`s aint out there to give me 8 hours a day 5 days aweek, otherwise i could earn in excess of £150 per day
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Pet hate of mine this. I have never in the 12 months I've been cleaning windows for myself earned the same wage 2 days in a row never mind any longer so I could say "I earn £XXX" Thankfully I've earned more in a day than most of these big headed idiots but I have also worked for £50 in a day. For example today I was only earning £6.50 an hour but the contract that comes with the builders clean I'm doing is worth much more because it will be WFP after this clean.
All I say is ignore the idiots who say they earn megabucks because there is a limit to how much you can earn a day before you start cutting corners to get things done and as soon as corners start getting cut customers start canceling.
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If you cant earn £30 an hour wfp then your doing two things wrong.
1. your not chargeing enough.
2. your too slow or poorly organized.
Myfreind is selling his small round. £1,500 a month.He averages between £50 and £40 an hour, works part time.
Thats the truth, if you cant manage to earn that amount an hour dont knock those who can.
Not everyone brags about what they earn. Some will state what they earn hopeing to inspire other w/cleaners they dont have to clean windows for a pittance. If you dont want to beleive them thats your choice. I have just done 2 days work and I have earned a new record. I wont post the amount as I dont want to upset anyone.
But I will say this. If you dont beleive you can earn a cracking wage, come and watch me work for half a day and you will become a BELEIVER.
nel :o
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I hesitate to use the word moron- but bragging about how much you earn is what this post is about and precisely what you're doing.
Get a life.
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As long as you are happy with what you earn does it matter if it is £50 £100 £200 or more a day?
We all have different needs and bills some people do earn well over £200 a day, but i bet there bills are very high.
somwone earning £80 a day living at home can have more moeny than a £200 + a day window cleaner at the end of the week, I will let you work it out.
I do ok but dont have the massive house yet :( but am working on it ;).
GO GO VG ;D
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VG,i don`t think it`s that people are bragging i just think that some of us on here can`t beleive it when guy`s are saying they don`t earn a certain amount,one minute there saying they do this work and that work and then the next thing you know there saying they don`t earn a lot.I wouldn`t come on here and bragg mate no way pedro,all i try and do is answer the questions i`m asked or i see posted.Some people don`t think you can earn what you say cos they don`t,why waste time on here bu11541t1ng about earnings if you don`t think some of the figures quoted are true then you don`t do the same sort of work with the same hourly rate.
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NWH, do you think I disbelieve £30ph?
Matt's topic asks why people feel the need to bragg. And it's precisely what a lot of the replies on this thread have ended up doing.
The security Guard said he'd heard that us window cleaners earn loads of money. I wonder where he can have gotten that idea?
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Some have said that they earn 80-£100 a day,comments like that are taking the P*** if you ask me.I would only expect a reply like that from a newbie.
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Moron.
I wont take offence but I think you should look up its meaning before you start applying it too a fellow w/c.
I find peoples recactions to what others earn a source of amazement and a reflection of modern negativity.
It would be great if all and I mean all w/cleaners could earn £30 an hour. Will that ever happen? No and that wont happen for many reasons.
I have advised quite a few w/cleaners over the years how to set up and run a profitable w/c buisness.
I have helped over the last three years ,three w/c in particuler and none of them earn less then £30 an hour.
It gets under my skin sometimes to read posts that knock others who earn a good hourly rate.
But you should put into context and realize in the world of economics that whatever we earn per hour is peanuts and if I post what I earn in a week its definitely not bragging. Theirs a diffrence in my book between stateing what you earn on a forum then telling others in a group how much you earn thats done to belittle others or to elevate your own self esteem.
Some of my freinds are very sucssefull in buisness, One life long freind is a self made millionare. I am not envious of what hes achieved.Power to his elbow I say.
Is posting what you earn bragging?UMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Nel
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I'm sorry Neil, and glad you didn't take offence.
I'm always shooting my mouth off, and have been known to bragg. Life's put me on my bum a few times too.
Saw a chap yesterday who I hadn't seen for a while. He had a postie uniform on.
"Thought you were a scaffolder."I said remembering some banter about earnings.
"I was" He said "untill the Polish lads come and did it for nothing."
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I think alot of this comes down to the area you work and where it is,
yes you can earn good money if its a big house or a commercial job,
i do have some big houses, but also alot of small ones, i said earlier in this thread roughly what my earnings can be, but if some of you looked at the prices im charging , you would say you wouldnt do it, take it from me the people around my area dont want to pay huge prices to have there windows cleaned,
take today for instance, Bod gave me a job to go look at, large house, with 7 windows on the front 6 on the back and 2 doors and patio doors, i priced it at £15 first clean then £10 after that, she said "oh thats more than im used to paying " then said can you do it 2 monthly" i said sorry once a month wfp, she took my card and i dont think ill hear from her again,
it goes to show you cant charge much where i live, other places like Kent where my mum is the same house w/c`s are charging £25-£30 per clean, thats what my mum pays and the house is the same size at what i looked at today,
but hey im happy with what i can earn, my morgage aint big and just normal bills to pay
Haydn
ps, why do people get snotty on here, its only words.
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with an average semi £6 tops, and a detached £8....in my area.
and the round is scattered as only being going one year....
and these are top prices up here, does that make me slow?
or should i charge more and not get a phone call, ever!?
believe me i am expensive where i can get away with it,
its ok saying either slow or underpricing,
i reckon if the area you are working in gives you £30 per hour, then yes it does come across as bragging, ... some guys over here earn less than £6 per hour..
so rather than make people feel better it can be very disheartening when you live in an area that simply does not cut it.
i am creeping up and above our normal rate here, probably the most expensive w/c in my area... and i have odd £15 detached here and there, but i will eventually have a decent paying round, but its building slow, on purpose so i dont have to work all hours for £80 or per day.
just another input to this interesting issue. ;)
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Yes but if you keep getting the £15 houses and dumping the £6 houses at the same time your going in the right direction.
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cant dump them at the same time as they are..... at the moment.... my round....
but i keep getting better ones and when my round is full totally then i will play around.
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with an average semi £6 tops, and a detached £8....in my area.
and the round is scattered as only being going one year....
and these are top prices up here, does that make me slow?
or should i charge more and not get a phone call, ever!?
believe me i am expensive where i can get away with it,
its ok saying either slow or underpricing,
i reckon if the area you are working in gives you £30 per hour, then yes it does come across as bragging, ... some guys over here earn less than £6 per hour..
so rather than make people feel better it can be very disheartening when you live in an area that simply does not cut it.
i am creeping up and above our normal rate here, probably the most expensive w/c in my area... and i have odd £15 detached here and there, but i will eventually have a decent paying round, but its building slow, on purpose so i dont have to work all hours for £80 or per day.
just another input to this interesting issue. ;)
you seem to be doing all the right things, I have to say if any window cleaner anywhere is earning £6 an hour doing window c;eaning maybe they should stop as that anywhere in the UK is just to low they would be better off working a 9-5 as £6 an hour working for yourself does not earn you that and they will be working under the min wage bracket (cowboys I am guessing at that price or silly either or)(if they are doing it on the side and are on the dole) hope they get caught I pay for that as do any legit window cleaning company.
any window cleaner in any part of the UK be it south west north etc should be well over £10 they work and that is an understatment, I have worked up north doing it also down south.
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To an extent I do beleive that it depends on where you are based in the UK.
I was cleaning a 3 bed detatched house the other day (Georgian windows - £20). I got chatting to the customer who says that her sister lives up north in a big 5 bed house and only pays £10 for her windows!
Andy
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totally agree andy,
gazza .... well said and honest like me.lol.
i couldnt charge anymore as i wouldnt get phonecalls at all, and id get undercut, like i think i have been,
haydn