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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: windowwashers on September 15, 2007, 11:03:25 am

Title: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: windowwashers on September 15, 2007, 11:03:25 am
Just been to look at a system for wfp that fills from a fire hydrant fills in 20 mins 1000L to tds 10 ppm do any of you have a system like this?
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: poles apart on September 15, 2007, 11:35:15 am
Someone posted on here last year that they did this but I can't remember who. Where did you see the system?
Rod
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: windowwashers on September 15, 2007, 01:39:03 pm
Someone posted on here last year that they did this but I can't remember who. Where did you see the system?
Rod
In bedford this morning in a car park, little cloak and dagger I know but that is where it was, have have a pic just charging up my cam and will post it
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: Majestic on September 15, 2007, 06:44:03 pm
You can get a tap off ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hydrant-Standpipe-Stand-Pipe-British-Water-Approved_W0QQitemZ230169444105QQihZ013QQcategoryZ64816QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: Majestic on September 15, 2007, 06:45:53 pm
Or a collectors item

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Water-Hydrant-stand-pipe_W0QQitemZ270164564630QQihZ017QQcategoryZ69826QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: LOVEme on September 15, 2007, 06:46:43 pm
You can get a standpipe licence from your local water company and they give you keys, I think you pay a small fee every 3 months and inreturn you get a lot of water 24-7  ;)



  
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: windowwashers on September 15, 2007, 07:27:18 pm
You can get a standpipe licence from your local water company and they give you keys, I think you pay a small fee every 3 months and inreturn you get a lot of water 24-7  ;)



  
does anyone have a system like this that they fill like it??
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on September 15, 2007, 07:37:13 pm
THIS IS A CLASSIC  :)

"Bullstopshere" was the member who had us all going with his quiz about taking no water with him, but alas hasnt posted since. I wish he would come back. Here is is post, put it in your favourites, never seen anything like it before or since.
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14941.0
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: windowwashers on September 15, 2007, 08:26:24 pm
So I am guessing no one on this forum uses Hydrants to fill a tank then.
Seemed to be alot quicker than a tap fill (over night) any more feedback welcome
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: billozz on September 15, 2007, 10:45:41 pm
am i right in thinking that hydrants are under the metal plates that you see on the pavement marked with a "H"
if so they are all over  the place so would be easy to top up with water wherever you are also the pressure presumably would be enough to fill up rather quickly
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: windowwashers on September 15, 2007, 11:16:18 pm
am i right in thinking that hydrants are under the metal plates that you see on the pavement marked with a "H"
if so they are all over  the place so would be easy to top up with water wherever you are also the pressure presumably would be enough to fill up rather quickly
correct does fill up very very quick 8 hours max normal 20/40 mins this way for 1000l
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: Village Gleam on September 15, 2007, 11:23:05 pm
I've see them filling a bowser, but I think that was for jetting.

I can't see this for wfp, the pressures the orignilal poster was talking of would blow the window in.

So, my take on it is that it's a joke.
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: windowwashers on September 15, 2007, 11:39:09 pm
I've see them filling a bowser, but I think that was for jetting.

I can't see this for wfp, the pressures the orignilal poster was talking of would blow the window in.

So, my take on it is that it's a joke.
NO Joke VG saw a sys set up like this this morning for filling I will add some cr=p pics of the back part showing the attchments for it, was quite mind bending when i saw it at 9 this morning, still had websites in my sites :)
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on September 16, 2007, 06:29:29 am
The pressure/flow at the brush is what you would normally use, its just the large volume at approx 100 psi thats used to filter through your ROs. Maybe the ROs work a lot better at higher pressure anyway. But would be affected by tds just the same. Its a fascinating topic and there are one or two users out there from other forums also interested and using it, but just keeping quiet.
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: Village Gleam on September 16, 2007, 07:48:39 am
That's not how I read it Jeff.
He said it was no use for domestic, and the equation he used for cleaning was a jetting one where his logic was a higher pressure/flow produced a cleaner faster job.

For instance if my tank takes all night to fill up, so what? What difference to the actual window  if I had filled up at a hydrant in minutes?

If you follow his logic you could blast with tap water then rinse with pure.

Also you would leave a lot of water whereever you went.

On the other side, though, I also find your meagre usage impossible, so what do I know.
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: poles apart on September 16, 2007, 11:25:47 am
The whole point of filling from a hydrant is that if you travel any distance then you can travel with an empty tank, therefore saving on fuel costs. Also if you ran out  you could refill quickly. The pressure to the window doesn't change only the filling pressure and time. I'm interested in this as I travel quite far with the contracts I've got.
Rod
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on September 16, 2007, 05:44:18 pm
that Bullstopshere guy seemed to be in a high tds area, while I am in a low tds area ranging from 30-55 ppm. I would love to fill up away from home in just a few minutes, at the moment on our first cleans we are just filling up at customers houses. So what do I do next. because I want to be able to do this! Luke
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on September 16, 2007, 06:04:24 pm
I've done a little research and have found the following site

http://www.yorkshirewater.com/?OBH=3866

this page is for the mains application within yorkshirewater.

The attached files are an application form and t&c for using a standpipe
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: windowwashers on September 16, 2007, 06:45:04 pm
I've done a little research and have found the following site

http://www.yorkshirewater.com/?OBH=3866

this page is for the mains application within yorkshirewater.

The attached files are an application form and t&c for using a standpipe
i'm not in yorkshire, but would help others that do live there, thats 2 helpful things in one day m8  ;)
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on September 16, 2007, 07:39:16 pm
Price up the large 4x40 ROs first !
Title: Re: does anyone fill wfp from fire hydrant ?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on September 16, 2007, 07:42:08 pm
I wouldnt need them Jeff, all I would be using it for would be to fill my tank up then send it through the di onboard! Luke