Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: m.b.s. on August 24, 2007, 09:01:00 pm
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just cleaned my parents house using the wfp they were filfy i did all the frames first scrubed the windows thwn rinced in that order on every window when they dried they wer all mucky water streaks all over the windows why i did mine last week and they were spotless i have been a trad for 10 years and this was the second house i did i did them so i could practice and get the technech right befor going to do my customers why did this happen will have to do them again tommorow now as it is dark also i seem to be using a lot of water about 35 liters on one house cannot be right can it
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sounds like alot of water m8
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dosent it just
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just cleaned my parents house using the wfp they were filfy i did all the frames first scrubed the windows thwn rinced in that order on every window when they dried they wer all mucky water streaks all over the windows why i did mine last week and they were spotless i have been a trad for 10 years and this was the second house i did i did them so i could practice and get the technech right befor going to do my customers why did this happen will have to do them again tommorow now as it is dark also i seem to be using a lot of water about 35 liters on one house cannot be right can it
did you avoid getting water into the vents, thats the usual cause,
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Its not the amount of water you use. Its how and where you put it that counts.
Accuracy is very important to get consistently good results with WFP.
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yes they were no vents in the window the house has two vents kitchen bathroom but these were the landin and hall way wat about the liters of water
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how do you meen bright clean
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MBS
Were on the front of Opal this weekend
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cheers john if have time will pop down very bussy what do you think my prob is
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With some houses it will take a couple of cleans to get rid of old Fairy , soap residue if you give them a couple of cleans you may have better results.
Just give a good rinse after cleaning
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how long did it take you and what size house / how many windows dos it have 35 ltrs of water minght not be a lot depending on the size ? when were they last cleaned ? the muck collects on the tops of the frames and until you get shut of this it will keep runind down until you get rid of this . i tend to avoid this now but its what ive got used to . are you allso cleaning your brush off in between windows ?
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7 2 windows 1 bay with 3 big windows 2long small windows about 1/2 hour no i didnt know you hat to rince the brush i thought the flow of water did this
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thanks john do you meen clean them and leave to dry then clean them again or clean them and go away and go back in a month and clean them again dont think customers will be too hapy with that i also thought you had to clean the frames
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if this was your first clean, the frames will be filthy, usualy the dirt will seep from the window seals,
eventualy it will stop after a few cleans, what i do is wait for the windows to dry, then go do the rest of the windows, then go back to the first window, if there is any running marks, just turn down the flow,
and do the glass only, then next time you go back to clean them, do the whole lot again, then repeat just what i told you, eventualy they will come clear,
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thanks jouk do you mean do the frames every time and then the glas with lower presure
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I used 200 litres on 1 house last week for a first clean (5 bed detached with conservatory, but still...), so 35 litres doesn't sound that bad! For first cleans I always turn the pump up full, spend twice as much time on each window,... and hope for the best, but even then it doesn't work every time. With some windows it doesn't matter what you do,.. some windows just need to dry and be washed again for some strange reason. Stick with it,... it'll come right soon enough!
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yes, after your few cleans are done they will come good, turn the flow down and just do the glass, after the frames are dry, dont worry to much about the frames, its the glass thats more important,
at the next clean, do the frames again, just dont rush things
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35 ltrs dos seem a lot to use even on a first clean . the water flow alone will not fully clean the brush off . i allways brush mine from side to side on a part of the frame . try it and if the frames are white you will see the dirt flow out . i was told if you keep your brush clean youll keep your windows clean & up to now mate i aint had 1 complaint & been going nearly 1 year woth wfp .
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thanks all any more tips would be usefull how many use a veristream and how many dont
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i have change over to car spray nozzles, and its cut my cleaning time down, you get more than double the power to shift dirt, also its cut my water right down, watch the power
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how did you do that jouk looks brill
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they're not aluminium are they, the frames on your parents house?
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how did you do that jouk looks brill
its all in the training academy
but heres the instructions
OK here's a simple way of adding car nozzles to the brush head, saves the drilling, sorry the pics are not that great,
first get a hold of some large cable clips
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take the nail out and replace with screws
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cable clip with screw
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next place tube on nozzle, makes it easy pulling it through the cable clip.
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next position cable clip, and screw in place
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cable and nozzle screwed and secured in place
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side view of nozzle
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front view of positioned nozzles, now if you want, you can cut out a small check so the nozzle is bellow the plastic, but to be honest, it does not even touch the frames, hope this helps
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cheers jouk hav a go at that no gsw not aliminuem frames brown pvc not been cleaned since crimbo
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cheers jouk hav a go at that no gsw not aliminuem frames brown pvc not been cleaned since crimbo
you wont regret it, trust me, nothing beats them, i can not stress it enough,
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what car was they from or dosent it matter also what brush is it and were did you get it and the price if you dont mind
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i've had white upvc milk up in the past but not brown, i reckon now you have given the frames a scrub if you go back and do the glass you will get a good result
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what car was they from or dosent it matter also what brush is it and were did you get it and the price if you dont mind
halfords sels them for about £3 the pair, they need to be twin nozzles, if you can get the swivel nozzles thats even better,
any make will do, thats a peter fogwills salmon brush i have,
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were can i get the brush from and how much why swivell jets
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were can i get the brush from and how much why swivell jets
ball swivel jets can be accuratly pointed in any direction, this way the water hits every angle of the glass,
i dont know the price of the brush, as i got it in a deal, with the autoswitch, i took it of and put it on my gaz brush lol
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Some car jets will have the same effect as fan jets,go to a good scrap yard and try and get some Merc or BMW ones.
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like i say i will give it a go as i bought a salmon brush off ebay poasted the pic yesterday called salmon brush think i made a bobo getting it what do you think
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like i say i will give it a go as i bought a salmon brush off ebay poasted the pic yesterday called salmon brush think i made a bobo getting it what do you think
i think its a great brush, wheres the link to the pic of the brush you put up ,
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the pic should be on there didnt put a link as i uploaded the pic
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Sorry to sound thick... but you mean windscreen washer jets right? Thats a brilliant idea! Will try that I think :) Do you keep the brush jets as well, or just switch the tubing to the overhead jets?
m.b.s, its taken me 2 or 3 cleans to get the windows on my house perfect. I hadn't done them trad for a good 6 months, so LOADS of muck had built up in the frames, which were recessed as well which didn't help. I found they finally came clean when I squashed the brush right into the top of the frame and scrubbed from side to side, then rinsed loads, making sure the jets were angled into the seal.
Hope this helps :)
Chris
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Sorry to sound thick... but you mean windscreen washer jets right? Thats a brilliant idea! Will try that I think :) Do you keep the brush jets as well, or just switch the tubing to the overhead jets?
m.b.s, its taken me 2 or 3 cleans to get the windows on my house perfect. I hadn't done them trad for a good 6 months, so LOADS of muck had built up in the frames, which were recessed as well which didn't help. I found they finally came clean when I squashed the brush right into the top of the frame and scrubbed from side to side, then rinsed loads, making sure the jets were angled into the seal.
Hope this helps :)
Chris
the brush nozzles are obcelete now, i put new tubing on the overhead washer car jets for a tight fit,
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FIRST CLEAN OF DIRTY WINDOWS WITH WFP
glance at windows see if there is any bird muck if so give quick scrub and leave to soak
start on upstairs window clean frames until water flowing over them runs clear then clean glass now rinse frame and glass then brush excess water from cill repeat with all upstairs window now repeat with all downstairs(starting under first upstiars window because it should have stopped dipping by now). if brush has visible dirt caught in it take it (dirt) out with your hand your should always keep brush clean.
when above is complete the windows should have stopped dripping (depending on size of house) go back to first upstairs window you cleaned scrub glass only then rinse glass only then brush excess water from cill repeat on all upstairs windows now repeat on all downstairs windows(starting under first upstiars window because it should have stopped dipping by now).
NEXT TIME/MONTH (MAINTAINANCE CLEAN)
this time windows probably will not be too dirty just dust and possibly bird muck
glance at windows see if there is any bird muck if so give quick scrub and leave to soak
start on upstair brush frame and glass then rinse both repeat on all upstairs windows now repeat on all downstairs windows (starting under first upstiars window because it should have stopped dipping by now)
the end
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Just converted one of my brushes to windscreen washer jets. Verdict: Bloody Brilliant! Gonna have to convert all of them now. So much better than normal jets. Thanks for sharing that tip jouk45. Can't wait for your next idea.
DJ
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m.b.s. have you seen this? A post on the (www.window-tools.com) forum called "A beginner's guide to wfp" by Jeff Brown. Excellent post containing lots of good advice. I am converting from trad to wfp gradually. One piece of advice from this post I have taken on board (and this may help you with your problem from your first post) is that I am cleaning all my houses one more time trad, paying special attention to the top frame. I know these will be very clean when I first wfp them next time, so hopefully avoiding any probs. Hope this helps.
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thanks all
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Just converted one of my brushes to windscreen washer jets. Verdict: Bloody Brilliant! Gonna have to convert all of them now. So much better than normal jets. Thanks for sharing that tip jouk45. Can't wait for your next idea.
DJ
thanks dj, i am glad your happy with them, great little power washers arnt they,