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Title: Price increase - or not? Your views please
Post by: Mike 108 on June 03, 2007, 10:09:17 am
Thinking of putting many of my prices up.  What would you charge for this house?  I clean it trad (at the moment) -including wiping all round the frames and also including the upvc front door.
In addition to the photos shown, there are also 4 groundfloor windows to the sides of the house and a double glass-panelled side entrance door.
Thanks
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Post by: DASERVICES on June 03, 2007, 10:21:32 am
£12
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Post by: Mike 108 on June 03, 2007, 10:30:03 am
Thanks D A.  Presently I only charge £8.00. Was thinking of putting it up to £10.00 for a fortnightly clean or £12.00 for a monthly. Thanks
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Post by: Mike 108 on June 03, 2007, 10:51:23 am
What about anybody else????
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Post by: Trevor Knight on June 03, 2007, 11:09:41 am
£12 - £15 depending on your area.
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Post by: Paul Coleman on June 03, 2007, 11:55:13 am
I reckon on £12 just for the windows I can see so I suppose it must be £15 or £16 for all of it.  I see you are in Lancs though so maybe prices are a bit lower than in the southeast where I live.
How do you get to the window over the porch?  When I did trad I would use a pole with applicator/squeegee on.
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Post by: Mr. S on June 03, 2007, 12:02:12 pm
Im glad to see so far most of us are agreeing on roughly same price!
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Post by: macmac on June 03, 2007, 12:31:47 pm
It would be 12 for me but i would add a couple of quid for frames & door so 14.

tony
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Post by: Alex Wingrove on June 03, 2007, 12:37:37 pm
for what i can see 6-7 for the front, 7 for the back, and from what you say 5 for the back

so roughly

17-19
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Post by: Clear Vision on June 03, 2007, 01:07:08 pm
Up here you would be lucky to get £10!

Tight old lot
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Post by: S.A.J on June 03, 2007, 01:10:40 pm
£10-£12 fo that house down here in Plymouth

Stuart
SAJ Window Cleaners Ltd
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Post by: Clive McDonald on June 03, 2007, 01:25:04 pm
As a householder I would be happier if you had a good reason; not my prices are lagging behind everyone else's.

I think £12 a month would be acceptable up from £8 if you could explain why in a way the customer found sympathetic.
Even if is common sense it is very easy to upset people.
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Post by: Alex Wingrove on June 03, 2007, 01:30:23 pm
£12!!!!!!!!!!!!!


how long does that take, id set aside at least 30mins to do that
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Post by: Stevie G on June 03, 2007, 01:52:40 pm
£12-£15 depends on area. with pole 15min,
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Post by: LSB on June 03, 2007, 03:43:00 pm
last month i increased approx 1000 of my customers by between £1 - £3 ,
i have had approx 12 cancellations , and 7 have gone every 2nd month
i have picked up new customers in the mean time and have two offices to quote tmrw.
i put off putting my prices up for a long time , and so far i neednt have worried !
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Post by: williamx on June 03, 2007, 04:04:58 pm
£25 for 1st Clean then £12.00 per month.

Wfp about 10 - 15 mins
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Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on June 03, 2007, 04:19:09 pm
In essex 9-12 just for the windows.  If your doing the frames every month then another 50% on top so that would be 13.50 - 18.00 every month.  Doing that lot trad is a lot of work for a tenner.

Simon.
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Post by: Alex Wingrove on June 03, 2007, 05:12:08 pm
£25 for 1st Clean then £12.00 per month.

Wfp about 10 - 15 mins

your having a stephie graph,

im not wfp, and i know full well that, that house cannot be done in 10mins

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Post by: williamx on June 03, 2007, 05:15:05 pm
£25 for 1st Clean then £12.00 per month.

Wfp about 10 - 15 mins

your having a stephie graph,

im not wfp, and i know full well that, that house cannot be done in 10mins



I am wfp and start to finsh 15 mins, I do them all day long.
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Post by: Davew on June 03, 2007, 05:17:27 pm
Twelve for me every five weeks.
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Post by: Alex Wingrove on June 03, 2007, 05:21:30 pm
£25 for 1st Clean then £12.00 per month.

Wfp about 10 - 15 mins

your having a stephie graph,

im not wfp, and i know full well that, that house cannot be done in 10mins



I am wfp and start to finsh 15 mins, I do them all day long.

so your telling me, you get out of the van/car, get all your stuff ready, do the house, put it all away, get payment, etc, and then go

in 15mins

if your earning £50 p/h why are you on here? and oh i dont know on holiday or something
Title: Re: Price increase - or not? Your views please
Post by: williamx on June 03, 2007, 05:49:08 pm
I pull up in van open side door, swich the pump on grap the pole and pull it to the front windows, a quick twist and the pole is extented to clean the upstairs windows, clean thema nd another quick twist on the pole to drop the height to clean the ground floor including the front door.

I them pull out about 10 to 15  arm lenths of hose and carry onto the back, clean them the sam as the front,w hen finsh come back and clean the side windows.

Arrive back at the van and reel in the hose the put the pole in close the door and knock the front door for the money or pick itr up from some hiding place that the customer and me have agreed on ( always telephone them the night before).

As for earning £50 per per hour, why not? I have 1 job that takes me 90 min and I charge £175.00 and another one which takes me 60 mins and I charge £165.

I don't overcharge as I always price my jobs as if I was to do them the trad way, but wfp cleaning just happens to be quicker most of the time.

As for holidays I try to get to go to Africa 3 times a year with other vistits to Turkey, Spain, Tunisia and other places as well, mind you I am hoping to go to Dubai, Singapore, Hongkong, Sydney Australia and Cairns Australia for January and Febuary 2008.

Whats wrong with earning a decent amount of money.
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Post by: dave0123 on June 03, 2007, 06:02:36 pm
am still trad at the moment but id say £9.00 just for the windows on a place like that then add about 5- 6 for the frames each time


so 15 to 16 pound.

Dave
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Post by: Paul Coleman on June 03, 2007, 06:18:13 pm
£25 for 1st Clean then £12.00 per month.

Wfp about 10 - 15 mins

I was thinking maybe 15 minutes all in with WFP as well.  The original poster did specify traditional cleaning though so maybe 20 - 25 minutes - perhaps 30 or so if I was a bit worn out.
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Post by: Paul Coleman on June 03, 2007, 06:23:43 pm
£25 for 1st Clean then £12.00 per month.

Wfp about 10 - 15 mins

your having a stephie graph,

im not wfp, and i know full well that, that house cannot be done in 10mins



I am wfp and start to finsh 15 mins, I do them all day long.

so your telling me, you get out of the van/car, get all your stuff ready, do the house, put it all away, get payment, etc, and then go

in 15mins

if your earning £50 p/h why are you on here? and oh i dont know on holiday or something

I don't see any problem with 15 minutes WFP either.  Perhaps a bit longer if the customer is in and feels a bit chatty but the actual cleaning and the un/loading of equipment is 15 minutes worth.  I'm not saying I would keep that pace up all day long though but maybe if I had WFP when I was tern years younger it would have been possible.
N.B.  I am not talking about first/second cleans.
Title: Re: Price increase - or not? Your views please
Post by: Paul Coleman on June 03, 2007, 06:26:38 pm
I pull up in van open side door, swich the pump on grap the pole and pull it to the front windows, a quick twist and the pole is extented to clean the upstairs windows, clean thema nd another quick twist on the pole to drop the height to clean the ground floor including the front door.

I them pull out about 10 to 15  arm lenths of hose and carry onto the back, clean them the sam as the front,w hen finsh come back and clean the side windows.

Arrive back at the van and reel in the hose the put the pole in close the door and knock the front door for the money or pick itr up from some hiding place that the customer and me have agreed on ( always telephone them the night before).

As for earning £50 per per hour, why not? I have 1 job that takes me 90 min and I charge £175.00 and another one which takes me 60 mins and I charge £165.

I don't overcharge as I always price my jobs as if I was to do them the trad way, but wfp cleaning just happens to be quicker most of the time.

As for holidays I try to get to go to Africa 3 times a year with other vistits to Turkey, Spain, Tunisia and other places as well, mind you I am hoping to go to Dubai, Singapore, Hongkong, Sydney Australia and Cairns Australia for January and Febuary 2008.

Whats wrong with earning a decent amount of money.

I don't see anything wrong with earning well either.  The top 10% of my work I can reach and even exceed £1 a minute.  I still have a fair bit where I need to graft to make £23 an hour too so I still need to change some things around.
Title: Re: Price increase - or not? Your views please
Post by: Mike 108 on June 03, 2007, 08:04:35 pm
Thanks for all your replies.
I now feel confident enough to 'go for it' £12.00 a month!
I've only been cleaning for 11 months (3 days per weeks - thats all I want - just turned 60)
On a good day that house takes me 45 mins to clean trad. On a bad day it takes me 1 hour! (But it looks bloody good when I've finished).
A friendly local window cleaner has lent me a WFP to try for a few weeks - so that time taken may soon be tumbling.
Cheers all.
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Post by: archercleaningserv on June 03, 2007, 08:15:59 pm
HI ,
I would say £12.00 in gtr manchester area every fortnight or month , it wouldnt matter to me which !

The customer would probebly pull their face, although if a plumber turned up and turned a screw he would end up charging £100 for the same time it would take for us to do our work & they would be doing summersalts at £100 , yet us window cleaners put up with all kinds of titheads pulling their faces.

I have just bought a new vauxhall vivaro & a few of my thick customers come out with crap like "NEW VAN , YOU MUST BE CHARGING TOO MUCH" or "HAVE I BOUGHT YOU THAT" = unreal some people. :-\

Another customer said to me "YOUR ONLY HERE 2 MINUTES , MY SON DOESNT EARN THAT AND HES A SOLICITOR : :'(" = i told the lady that i was getting tired of cleaning the houses on her road & if she would let me have her sons phone number , i could give him a ring & see if he wanted to buy the round off me  = so he can earn a proper wage instead of walking round with his suit on thinking he is somebody special.

Window cleaners ?  Who would be one ?  ;D ;D
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Post by: williamx on June 03, 2007, 08:24:38 pm
Next time you see her say that you will charge her the same that her sons firm charges its customers per hour
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Post by: vwm on June 03, 2007, 08:33:01 pm
£20 south west
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Post by: gary999 on June 03, 2007, 08:48:22 pm
would charge 12 - 15 depending on which area im in :)
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Post by: NWH on June 03, 2007, 10:04:51 pm
£20-25 for that house,it makes no difference to me if it takes 2mins or 15mins i price per job.You`ve got to get there and then get to the next job,it might be slightly different if i had a few in the same road but not much different.I find that as long as you do a quality job and they like you price very often never comes into it.Mind you south east.
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Post by: Alex Wingrove on June 03, 2007, 11:40:28 pm
I pull up in van open side door, swich the pump on grap the pole and pull it to the front windows, a quick twist and the pole is extented to clean the upstairs windows, clean thema nd another quick twist on the pole to drop the height to clean the ground floor including the front door.

I them pull out about 10 to 15  arm lenths of hose and carry onto the back, clean them the sam as the front,w hen finsh come back and clean the side windows.

Arrive back at the van and reel in the hose the put the pole in close the door and knock the front door for the money or pick itr up from some hiding place that the customer and me have agreed on ( always telephone them the night before).

As for earning £50 per per hour, why not? I have 1 job that takes me 90 min and I charge £175.00 and another one which takes me 60 mins and I charge £165.

I don't overcharge as I always price my jobs as if I was to do them the trad way, but wfp cleaning just happens to be quicker most of the time.

As for holidays I try to get to go to Africa 3 times a year with other vistits to Turkey, Spain, Tunisia and other places as well, mind you I am hoping to go to Dubai, Singapore, Hongkong, Sydney Australia and Cairns Australia for January and Febuary 2008.

Whats wrong with earning a decent amount of money.

if you can

good for you
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Post by: Cleaner Windows on June 04, 2007, 12:46:56 am
£16 just for the windows! frames are xtra!
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Post by: Ian_Giles on June 04, 2007, 06:23:17 am
Were I doing that job Trad, and I was doing as you are doing, including all the frames and the door then I would be wanting around £18.
A normal style clean of glass and sills only would be around £12.00 and I'd expect to be there at least 20 minutes.
Once you include all of the frames and the door too then you are probably going to be around the 30 minute mark depending on how thorough you are on the frames.

I'm WFP now and I'd be charging £15.00 and expecting to take no more than 15 minutes from pulling up to driving away.

Although that may appear to be an earning rate of £60 per hour, over the course of a days work it will work out to way, way less than that!

this isn't the thread to go into that though, but suffice to say it is the typical mistake so many make...thinking that what they are earning on a particular job actually equates to what they are REALLY earning an hour.

Ian
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Post by: M & C Window Cleaning on June 04, 2007, 06:57:08 pm
I'd want at least £20 with the frames. £15 without frames. Essex area
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Post by: Bazzy1999 on June 04, 2007, 09:56:03 pm
£15 every 4 weeks for me....... Im in Norfolk..
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Post by: JohnL on June 04, 2007, 10:05:22 pm
£20