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Title: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: S_RICHARDSON on October 11, 2006, 09:10:05 pm
Which do you prefer squeegee off or fairy liquid? Does it really matter? By the way how many put  vinegar in their solution?

Cheers S_richardson
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: aztec on October 11, 2006, 11:15:42 pm
i use a bit of both in the same bucket!
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: pjulk on October 11, 2006, 11:23:21 pm
I use squeegie off and think its great.

Used to use fairy when i was traditional only and still would if i was just traditional.
But apparently it leaves a film on the glass.

Some windows i do traditional downstairs some months if im low on water and the following month i may WFP it.

So to avoid any problems i changed to squeegie off as its designed for window cleaning.

Paul
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Rise N Shine on October 12, 2006, 12:03:08 am
Use squeegee off, it's amazing.
Fairy is for washing plates and dishes :)
Seriously, junk fairy it's rubbish.
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: brett walker on October 12, 2006, 06:42:04 pm
squeegee off  8) for me



brett
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: s.hughes on October 12, 2006, 06:56:29 pm
Fairy for me. I like the suds and loads of em.

Steve
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 12, 2006, 07:04:34 pm
Fairy for me. I like the suds and loads of em.

Steve
Same here.
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: matt on October 12, 2006, 07:07:50 pm
glass gleam 3 in pure water ;)

no suds, which i love
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: stevekennedy on October 12, 2006, 07:08:55 pm
Yes Matt. GG3 is by far the best. DOn't let the price put you off.
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: P®oPole™ on October 12, 2006, 07:16:31 pm
Unger Liquid, 2cap fulls half bucket of pure ;) gives nice slip and no suds, why put all that white soap crap all over the windows more mopping, ruins the scrims and makes a mess.

I admit suds do look better to the customer watching from behind the window, but what do they know!!

ProPole
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 12, 2006, 07:18:58 pm
You can't work as fast without suds because you need to look more carefully where you're going to make sure you don't miss any.

With plenty of suds I barely focus on the glass at all, just a quick glance here and there, and nothing gets missed.
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: P®oPole™ on October 12, 2006, 07:23:09 pm

 ;D bear in mind Squeaky that my eye sight is alot better than yours, being in my prime an all. Plus all that faffing about you do in the dark room with your cameras doesn't do yours any good. :D

ProPole





Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 12, 2006, 08:23:10 pm
Darkroom!??

...and I thought you said i was behind the times? ;D
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Cleaner Windows on October 12, 2006, 10:01:44 pm
lol digital darkrooms indeed :D and i thought it was a simple method! :D :D
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Pj on October 12, 2006, 10:04:50 pm
So, is it squeegee off or fairy in dark rooms?
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Cleaner Windows on October 12, 2006, 10:10:08 pm
erm..it was veering off the point a bit wasnt it lol.....well..i use fairy and always have but i keep saying i will try squeegie off but as yet, have not, so at the moment i would say fairy is best ;) untill otherwise convinced!
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: sunshine windows on October 12, 2006, 10:16:04 pm
Used to use Fairy or Tesco own brand washing up liquid for a while. Now i prefer to use Unger Professional Window Cleaning Fluid. It's not cheap though and i do use quite a bit as i like some sudds on the windows for the same reasons as Squeeky.

Lance
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Mr. S on October 12, 2006, 10:46:05 pm
being wfp im playing around with 1. fairy/ vinegar and pure water versus 2. fairy/ vinegar and tap water.

In summer 1. wins easily but now the cold weather will b coming i think ill switch to 2. but using hot tap water. Using 1. less detail and cleans very well.
Used squeegy off before but my brother and me both reckon my own custom fairy/ vinegar mix is best

Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Pj on October 12, 2006, 10:50:16 pm
in other words doubledutch, cos I don't want anyone else to know what I 'm talking about because I don't really know myself????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Mr. S on October 12, 2006, 11:04:14 pm
yeah whatever!!!!

MY EXPLANATION...........
I actually find it easier to add more vinegar to my fairy in summer, which gives that added sparkle, being acid seems to break down the fly deposits, spider web ends etc. etc.
Also using pure water seems just to clean it better

Been using wfp since end of feb and been toying around with things as you do

Many of my customers ask why my windows sparkle more than their OLD w/c

Maybe thats why
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Mr. S on October 12, 2006, 11:07:23 pm
PS i have tried other liquids but i stick with what works for me!
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Pj on October 12, 2006, 11:08:59 pm
thanks, riversidew

makes a bit more sense under pressure.  Good to experiment, I agree
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: M4RK on October 13, 2006, 07:12:58 am
I tried GG4 once and worked with it for a while.

but I mised my suds :'(

Back to fairy for me. All them suds lubricate the blade, I couldn't spin that blade as fast with low suds.

Fairy Forever

Mark
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 13, 2006, 08:00:18 am
Hmmmm....I've got a pub to do in & out first job today.

I'm going to chuck some vinegar in and see what happens.

Hope it doesn't make turning the squeegee on smoky interior glass difficult. ???
But then, you may have made the job easier.....
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Mr. S on October 14, 2006, 10:29:11 am
Squeaky clean, how did u get on with the pub job? Did the vinegar work? If not did u experiment with differing amounts? if not try axdding more or less vinegar next time. I personally havent done pubs but when i do inside of smokers houses usually add about 50/50% mix or 60 fairy 40% vinegar, dont know if that would be same for pub?
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Sir Squeaky on October 14, 2006, 11:24:12 am
It worked a treat on the inside.

I put some in my spray bottle (found some vinegar in the pub's kitchen ;D) and wet them all first.
Then used my wet cloth to scrub them.
After that they barely needed buffing at all with the dry microfibre, and left no smears at all!!!!!
Magic!

Trouble is, it's not so good on normal outside squeegee work.
It kills the suds and makes turning the squeegee harder.
The smell bugs you after a while too. :(

So, to sum up...... I'll just use it in my spray bottle. :)

Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Pat Purcell on October 14, 2006, 12:14:08 pm
squeeky if you substitute ammonia for the vinegar it has the same effect but you dont lose the glide smells  just as bad though,in answer to the original question we use gg3 with a dash of ammonia,when you get used to it works as fast as dishwashing detergent and seems to leave a better finish with little to no detailing or wiping up after.a  lot of our domestic windows are 12 panes over 12 panes and gg3 has cut the time in half on these especially onthe insides as there is no suds to clean up afterwards. For those that love there Fairy then maybe if you added a dash of gg3 to your water you might get the gleam off the glass along with the ease of use of your fairy, I ave not tried it but might be worth a shot as there really is a noticable difference
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: dai on October 14, 2006, 07:42:13 pm
Just try a cheap washing up liquid with a dash of dishwasher rinse aid. Been using it now for over 2 years. It's the dogs. Dai
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Tom@clearview on October 14, 2006, 08:21:28 pm
LO LO!!! NEW FELLA HERE!  Not only to the site but fairly new to wc ( about 12 months) why the vinegar???????? only ever used it on mi chips!?
  is it shine ? glide ? cuts through grime ?? let me in on this one
 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: freshwater on October 14, 2006, 10:38:21 pm
Not being a shiner, I would have thought Fairy liquid would be the last thing you would want to use on glass. I have watched the guys who fit the vinyl lettering on to vans and they use Fairy in water on the van surface to allow them to position the letters, and so they tell me the Fairy dries and sets like glue.

Also from my days in the building industry, some would use Fairy on the rubber seals on drain pipe couplings, again it set like glue and you could no move them after a couple of days.


steve@freswhatersystems.co.uk
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Pj on October 14, 2006, 10:44:31 pm
Rubbish!

The only reason for fairy on those jobs is it has 'slip'.

You're good, but not that good!

I used to apply vinyl graphics for years, and it was for 'slip', nothing else.  The rest is nonsense.
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Cleaner Windows on October 16, 2006, 10:16:17 pm
ive done a bit of sign writing too, and i would agree its only use is to move the vinall about easier...nothing more :)
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Terry_Burrows on October 17, 2006, 08:33:12 am
they also use it for putting on film on windows ;D :o because it slides ;D :o 8)
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: Cleaner Windows on October 17, 2006, 10:42:43 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Squeegee Off VS Fairy Liquid
Post by: S_RICHARDSON on October 25, 2006, 12:42:13 pm
i think that squeegee off is ok after using it! ;D ;D