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Title: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: dazmond on June 15, 2025, 04:14:05 pm
Anyone use this brush set up?

I've ordered a new Xtreme 25 pole with 2 x 35cm Xtreme sill brushes(1 flocked,1 stiff) this morning with the smaller jets as I find the flow a bit weak with 4 x standard jets with my current 35cm  ultimate brush even on full flow(and it's too heavy for everyday use). I mainly use this brush for cleaning artwork on a main road but I like the width for lots of window work so I'm hoping these new brushes will be good.

I've also been having problems cleaning some sills as I use a carbon gooseneck so the angle isn't right so the sill brushes should rectify this somewhat.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: dazmond on June 15, 2025, 04:22:24 pm
I also bought a gardiner extra long plastic scraper with scrubbing pad (for carbon goosenecks)as I'm having a nightmare with some work(bee spots and insects poo). Some of my work is absolutely splattered with it! Especially my work near farmers fields
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on June 15, 2025, 04:25:36 pm
Yes, only use this brush on all poles but the stiff variety. Tried the 1.4mm pencil jets but found them a waste of time. Only ever use the Red 50% fan jets on all my brushes now because they are great for rinsing. never tried to save pure because I have an RO system in van and not on a meter. As for gooseneck, always buy the long plastic one so I can adjust the angle.

I believe this 35cm brush and red jets are the best on the market and nothing comes near this setup. fwiw
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: dazmond on June 15, 2025, 05:08:40 pm
Why were the jets a waste of time?Surely 4 smaller jets will increase pressure so the water is not dribbling out?

I hate fan jets,prefer pencils any day
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: Tam1872 on June 15, 2025, 05:27:09 pm
Yes, only use this brush on all poles but the stiff variety. Tried the 1.4mm pencil jets but found them a waste of time. Only ever use the Red 50% fan jets on all my brushes now because they are great for rinsing. never tried to save pure because I have an RO system in van and not on a meter. As for gooseneck, always buy the long plastic one so I can adjust the angle.

I believe this 35cm brush and red jets are the best on the market and nothing comes near this setup. fwiw

Why do you have an ro in your van ? The water comes out the tap under 20ppm here.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on June 15, 2025, 08:50:54 pm
Why were the jets a waste of time?Surely 4 smaller jets will increase pressure so the water is not dribbling out?

I hate fan jets,prefer pencils any day

I found there was not enough flow and tried all jets. Settled with red ones which has good flow and 50% fan so I get the best of both world's. That's my opinion after trying all sorts of combinations. I just found the 1.4mm jets took me longer to clean a window so I saved pure but cost me more time so I ditched them.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on June 15, 2025, 08:55:02 pm
Yes, only use this brush on all poles but the stiff variety. Tried the 1.4mm pencil jets but found them a waste of time. Only ever use the Red 50% fan jets on all my brushes now because they are great for rinsing. never tried to save pure because I have an RO system in van and not on a meter. As for gooseneck, always buy the long plastic one so I can adjust the angle.

I believe this 35cm brush and red jets are the best on the market and nothing comes near this setup. fwiw

Why do you have an ro in your van ? The water comes out the tap under 20ppm here.

In East Kilbride its 37 I think but in Paisley its 70 so I'm borderline. Because no meter I just went for a system with an RO attached which meant I use little resin. I think I use 10Kgs a year of resin so my pure cost is minimal.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on June 15, 2025, 09:30:50 pm
Why were the jets a waste of time?Surely 4 smaller jets will increase pressure so the water is not dribbling out?

I hate fan jets,prefer pencils any day

I found there was not enough flow and tried all jets. Settled with red ones which has good flow and 50% fan so I get the best of both world's. That's my opinion after trying all sorts of combinations. I just found the 1.4mm jets took me longer to clean a window so I saved pure but cost me more time so I ditched them.

There's less flow with red fan jets than 1.4mm pencil jets!
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on June 15, 2025, 09:32:09 pm
You'll like the 1.4mm jets Daz, they do exactly what you are expecting them to. You get more power with less flow.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: KS Cleaning on June 15, 2025, 09:47:37 pm
I also bought a gardiner extra long plastic scraper with scrubbing pad (for carbon goosenecks)as I'm having a nightmare with some work(bee spots and insects poo). Some of my work is absolutely splattered with it! Especially my work near farmers fields
All that money for a hot diesel system and you need a scrubbing pad to get rid of insect poo🤭
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: NBwcs on June 15, 2025, 10:08:08 pm
I also bought a gardiner extra long plastic scraper with scrubbing pad (for carbon goosenecks)as I'm having a nightmare with some work(bee spots and insects poo). Some of my work is absolutely splattered with it! Especially my work near farmers fields
All that money for a hot diesel system and you need a scrubbing pad to get rid of insect poo🤭



Ah... but hes got warm hands and a supple hose. ;D
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: dazmond on June 16, 2025, 08:34:13 am
I also bought a gardiner extra long plastic scraper with scrubbing pad (for carbon goosenecks)as I'm having a nightmare with some work(bee spots and insects poo). Some of my work is absolutely splattered with it! Especially my work near farmers fields
All that money for a hot diesel system and you need a scrubbing pad to get rid of insect poo🤭

It would be even worse with cold water......its always June until the end of August on certain runs  of work...

At least we know the bee populations in these areas are healthy but there might be 30 or 40 spots on one window on some houses. The cars are also covered in them too
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: Stoots on June 16, 2025, 02:48:10 pm
I wouldnt clean all that bee poo off id dump it or double the price...

I only cleaned 1 house that had this problem, i cleaned it all on a first clean it took me ages, second time i went it was just as bad so dumped it. Dont really come across it much certainly not like that.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: dazmond on June 16, 2025, 06:36:59 pm
I wouldnt clean all that bee poo off id dump it or double the price...

I only cleaned 1 house that had this problem, i cleaned it all on a first clean it took me ages, second time i went it was just as bad so dumped it. Dont really come across it much certainly not like that.

I clean 77 houses on an estate that back onto farmers fields and they are all terrible throughout June,July and August every year (most are cleaned 4 weekly too) Its the best part of a grand a month. I certainly won't be dumping them. It adds around 30 mins each day compared to the rest of the year.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: the king on June 16, 2025, 09:19:02 pm
the 1.4 jets are good but that brush on a extreme pole with the scraper and pad may make the pole a bit top heavy
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: jo5hm4n on June 18, 2025, 10:52:55 pm
Anyone use this brush set up?

I've ordered a new Xtreme 25 pole with 2 x 35cm Xtreme sill brushes(1 flocked,1 stiff) this morning with the smaller jets as I find the flow a bit weak with 4 x standard jets with my current 35cm  ultimate brush even on full flow(and it's too heavy for everyday use). I mainly use this brush for cleaning artwork on a main road but I like the width for lots of window work so I'm hoping these new brushes will be good.

I've also been having problems cleaning some sills as I use a carbon gooseneck so the angle isn't right so the sill brushes should rectify this somewhat.

Yes we 100% use this setup every day and have done for like 3 years or more now.  Its the only Brush we will use on this exact setup.  Great when you get used to it.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: zesty on June 19, 2025, 06:55:42 am
Probably isn’t bee poo Daz, likely artillery fungus.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: dazmond on June 19, 2025, 08:34:19 am
Anyone use this brush set up?

I've ordered a new Xtreme 25 pole with 2 x 35cm Xtreme sill brushes(1 flocked,1 stiff) this morning with the smaller jets as I find the flow a bit weak with 4 x standard jets with my current 35cm  ultimate brush even on full flow(and it's too heavy for everyday use). I mainly use this brush for cleaning artwork on a main road but I like the width for lots of window work so I'm hoping these new brushes will be good.

I've also been having problems cleaning some sills as I use a carbon gooseneck so the angle isn't right so the sill brushes should rectify this somewhat.

Yes we 100% use this setup every day and have done for like 3 years or more now.  Its the only Brush we will use on this exact setup.  Great when you get used to it.

Easier to rinse and scrub large windows and it's a fair bit lighter than the equivalent ultimate brush. I think it's going to be my main brush for most work now.🙂👍
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on June 19, 2025, 01:01:49 pm
You will wonder why it took you so long to invest in this brush. I think its the best brush out there and ticks all the boxes.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: dazmond on June 23, 2025, 06:57:42 pm
I reckon I saved around 80L today just by using 4 x 1.4mm jets instead of 2 x 2mm jets

Strange really because I thought it might be slightly more due to extra jets...
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: ֍Winp®oClean֍ on June 23, 2025, 08:24:48 pm
I reckon I saved around 80L today just by using 4 x 1.4mm jets instead of 2 x 2mm jets

Strange really because I thought it might be slightly more due to extra jets...

I told you this last year.😉
You save even more with just two!
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: jo5hm4n on June 24, 2025, 10:25:40 pm
I reckon I saved around 80L today just by using 4 x 1.4mm jets instead of 2 x 2mm jets

Strange really because I thought it might be slightly more due to extra jets...

I honestly thought we would waste more water too, but the fact it just rinses better, wider rinse on glass, more consistent and less pressure at the 1.4mm as you say strangely you just use less water.

I used more water with 2 standard pencil jets on a small brush.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: Splash and dash on June 24, 2025, 11:10:44 pm
I reckon I saved around 80L today just by using 4 x 1.4mm jets instead of 2 x 2mm jets

Strange really because I thought it might be slightly more due to extra jets...

I honestly thought we would waste more water too, but the fact it just rinses better, wider rinse on glass, more consistent and less pressure at the 1.4mm as you say strangely you just use less water.

I used more water with 2 standard pencil jets on a small brush.


1:4 mm jets will be higher pressure than a 2mm jet not less . We found it was like using a pressure washer and got lots  of splashback off the glass with the 1:4 that we didn’t get with 2mm ones
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: dazmond on June 25, 2025, 08:38:33 am
I reckon I saved around 80L today just by using 4 x 1.4mm jets instead of 2 x 2mm jets

Strange really because I thought it might be slightly more due to extra jets...

I honestly thought we would waste more water too, but the fact it just rinses better, wider rinse on glass, more consistent and less pressure at the 1.4mm as you say strangely you just use less water.

I used more water with 2 standard pencil jets on a small brush.


1:4 mm jets will be higher pressure than a 2mm jet not less . We found it was like using a pressure washer and got lots  of splashback off the glass with the 1:4 that we didn’t get with 2mm ones

Not when theres 4 of them. I have my controller on 70 and it's great. Using 4 x 2mm jets and the flow just isn't anywhere near as good as the 1.4 with the added bonus of saving water.
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: Splash and dash on June 25, 2025, 04:49:39 pm
I reckon I saved around 80L today just by using 4 x 1.4mm jets instead of 2 x 2mm jets

Strange really because I thought it might be slightly more due to extra jets...

I honestly thought we would waste more water too, but the fact it just rinses better, wider rinse on glass, more consistent and less pressure at the 1.4mm as you say strangely you just use less water.

I used more water with 2 standard pencil jets on a small brush.


1:4 mm jets will be higher pressure than a 2mm jet not less . We found it was like using a pressure washer and got lots  of splashback off the glass with the 1:4 that we didn’t get with 2mm ones

Not when theres 4 of them. I have my controller on 70 and it's great. Using 4 x 2mm jets and the flow just isn't anywhere near as good as the 1.4 with the added bonus of saving water.


You don’t need 4x2mm jets in any brush . We have 2x2mm in all brushes and run the controller at 69 on all jobs except a couple of hotels that are less than 50 meters from the sea and covered in salt . We did  try the 1:4  jets but didn’t like them, so went back to the 2 mm been using them  for  over 20 years , had the 3 mm ones when I first started they would get through some water 😂
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: dazmond on June 25, 2025, 06:36:17 pm
I'm totally converted to using 35cm brushes with 4 jets now. Its easier and faster to clean and rinse larger windows
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: Scottish Cleaning Service on June 25, 2025, 07:21:38 pm
I'm totally converted to using 35cm brushes with 4 jets now. Its easier and faster to clean and rinse larger windows

That's the reason you have got to try different equipment and methods to see what suits. I've spent a few bob trying different ideas but it comes good in the end. It's all about helping each other to help us save time thus make more dough. 😉
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 25, 2025, 10:32:46 pm
I'm totally converted to using 35cm brushes with 4 jets now. Its easier and faster to clean and rinse larger windows

I'm guessing you rinse off the glass, Daz?

Vin
Title: Re: 35cm Xtreme sill brush with 4 x 1.4mm pencil jets?
Post by: dazmond on June 26, 2025, 08:38:48 am
I'm totally converted to using 35cm brushes with 4 jets now. Its easier and faster to clean and rinse larger windows

I'm guessing you rinse off the glass, Daz?

Vin

Depends....sometimes i do,sometimes I don't...

I love the 35cm sill brushes because I use a carbon gooseneck for most regular work and the angle is always right whether its a sill,skylight or side window because there is always bristles on the surface