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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Stoots on January 12, 2023, 04:19:38 pm
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Not to worry, snow and minus temps on the way next week so plenty of time to catch up :'( ;D
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Wellies mate, they're all the rage!!😬🤣
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Wait till you employ m8 lol.
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Wait till you employ m8 lol.
Why, do they want wellies too?
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Another few days lost to the rain another week or 2 lost to the snow you’ll soon find out why they all go out in all weathers Stoots.
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Only lost tuesday to the rain this week...
Apart from the odd heavy shower it's been OK to work in the North West the rest of the time...
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Another few days lost to the rain another week or 2 lost to the snow you’ll soon find out why they all go out in all weathers Stoots.
I have been out in some horrendous weather this week but its slowed me down ,im still cleaning work due before christmas ;D
Wait till you employ m8 lol.
I know, decided im waiting till spring ;D, i`ll clear out some of my worst jobs for now
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Lol yeah wait till spring but before you know it the bad weather will be here again,just having 1 costs a small fortune.
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I’ve been struggling with wind this week.
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It's very rare that I can't work because of the weather.tuesday was one of them..the rain was biblical here! ;D
But I doubt they'll be another day like that for a while....
I might lose 3 or 4 days over the course of a year but I don't work weekends and most of my working week's are 4 day weeks so has zero effect on my income!👌
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Monday was good all day.
Tuesday and Wednesday dodged rain but got in about half a day on each.
Today I thought I'd get rained off, but went anyway. Sat in the van a lot but again got about half a day in.
Tomorrow looks good and mini-Malc is working with me so planning on catching up.
Able to work til 4.30 now which has helped.
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Got half a day in today. Rained off Tuesday. I haven’t got the motivation like I used to. I don’t really care much these days about work.
One more winter for me and that’s it; 3 Pacific/Maldives/Indian Ocean holidays a year for me after that, a spot of bear spotting in Canada and my astrophotography. Mustn’t grumble, it all worked out in the end ;D ;D ;D
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Another few days lost to the rain another week or 2 lost to the snow you’ll soon find out why they all go out in all weathers Stoots.
Bad weather is bad weather - no residential cleaning if its raining - day off, no stress
Darran
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The arrangement I have is pay regardless I might have to rethink that already this year I’ve paid out for a week due to bad weather.
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The arrangement I have is pay regardless I might have to rethink that already this year I’ve paid out for a week due to bad weather.
And thats one of the many reasons i went back to working on my own.
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Following the cold snap before Christmas, we changed employment contracts. Guys now get 10 days off withhalf pay due to bad weather per annum. After that it’s non payed. They all seemed happy with that.
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Surprised people don't pay their staff when it's bad weather. I was planning on paying mine a fixed salary no matter what, its only right isn't it ?
I honestly thought it would be hard to find someone who would accept 3 or 4 days pay a week rather than 5 or potentially zero it's something to consider though the odd day is fine but a week would stress me out .
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You’ll be fine. Take on some fascia & gutter cleans & save them for the wet days. That’s what i do with my employee. Cushions the blow. The good days far outweigh the bad. It’s been exceptional weather lately.
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You’ll be fine. Take on some fascia & gutter cleans & save them for the wet days. That’s what i do with my employee. Cushions the blow. The good days far outweigh the bad. It’s been exceptional weather lately.
I dont get asked to do connys and fascias at all really plus my luck they would all ask when suns out. But i was thinking if you had staff work till 8 till 5pm (light permitting times of the year) and pay them a set salary then they should earn enough on the good days to cover days that they have off or are cut short due to weather.
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Having commercial work that can be done in any weather certainly helps keep the cash flowing. Haven't lost any time this week for that reason.
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First week back and I haven’t lost any days yet. Even in Scotland. 😁
Hot water, rain gear, and cracking on.
I work faster in the rain so it’s actually been a very profitable week so far. :D
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Another few days lost to the rain another week or 2 lost to the snow you’ll soon find out why they all go out in all weathers Stoots.
Bad weather is bad weather - no residential cleaning if its raining - day off, no stress
Darran
Really?we have many days here in the north west where it rains on and off during the day...surely your staff just crack on unless it's really bad and prolonged heavy rain like last tuesday?
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Very few days here where it rains all day - if forecast and raining heavy at 8 then we don’t go out - if it’s showers then they go out during the rain periods they take a break until it passes
If your paying a salary then that’s not so different from me - your guys would love just work extra here and there to catch up
Darran
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Surprised people don't pay their staff when it's bad weather. I was planning on paying mine a fixed salary no matter what, its only right isn't it ?
I honestly thought it would be hard to find someone who would accept 3 or 4 days pay a week rather than 5 or potentially zero it's something to consider though the odd day is fine but a week would stress me out .
I am of the same thinking m8 but it’s been costing me a fortune I am going to rethink things I’ve been paying regardless of being off with weather and sickness etc,those 2 things have already cost me 1000s.
I have always said they should be paid no matter the weather etc but it’s been a joke tbh I will no longer pay someone to sit at home,I’m having to earn a lot of money after wages and fuel before I can put the kettle on 😂 it’s not gonna continue.
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Surprised people don't pay their staff when it's bad weather. I was planning on paying mine a fixed salary no matter what, its only right isn't it ?
I honestly thought it would be hard to find someone who would accept 3 or 4 days pay a week rather than 5 or potentially zero it's something to consider though the odd day is fine but a week would stress me out .
I am of the same thinking m8 but it’s been costing me a fortune I am going to rethink things I’ve been paying regardless of being off with weather and sickness etc,those 2 things have already cost me 1000s.
I have always said they should be paid no matter the weather etc but it’s been a joke tbh I will no longer pay someone to sit at home,I’m having to earn a lot of money after wages and fuel before I can put the kettle on 😂 it’s not gonna continue.
haha whys its so hard to employ 😂 before i tried i just thought sling someone in a van and sit back and count the money. Couldnt be further from the truth absolute ball ache 😂
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Surprised people don't pay their staff when it's bad weather. I was planning on paying mine a fixed salary no matter what, its only right isn't it ?
I honestly thought it would be hard to find someone who would accept 3 or 4 days pay a week rather than 5 or potentially zero it's something to consider though the odd day is fine but a week would stress me out .
I am of the same thinking m8 but it’s been costing me a fortune I am going to rethink things I’ve been paying regardless of being off with weather and sickness etc,those 2 things have already cost me 1000s.
I have always said they should be paid no matter the weather etc but it’s been a joke tbh I will no longer pay someone to sit at home,I’m having to earn a lot of money after wages and fuel before I can put the kettle on 😂 it’s not gonna continue.
haha whys its so hard to employ 😂 before i tried i just thought sling someone in a van and sit back and count the money. Couldnt be further from the truth absolute ball ache 😂
Get the right staff and it’s very good , get poor staff and it’s a nightmare, that’s the key to successfully employing
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Surprised people don't pay their staff when it's bad weather. I was planning on paying mine a fixed salary no matter what, its only right isn't it ?
I honestly thought it would be hard to find someone who would accept 3 or 4 days pay a week rather than 5 or potentially zero it's something to consider though the odd day is fine but a week would stress me out .
What if there’s ten of them?
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Surprised people don't pay their staff when it's bad weather. I was planning on paying mine a fixed salary no matter what, its only right isn't it ?
I honestly thought it would be hard to find someone who would accept 3 or 4 days pay a week rather than 5 or potentially zero it's something to consider though the odd day is fine but a week would stress me out .
What if there’s ten of them?
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Then you should have a larger cushion of money in the bank from the good times to pay out in the bad , it’s all part of business planning
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It’s a two street you need good employees and a good employer
Darran
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Surprised people don't pay their staff when it's bad weather. I was planning on paying mine a fixed salary no matter what, its only right isn't it ?
I honestly thought it would be hard to find someone who would accept 3 or 4 days pay a week rather than 5 or potentially zero it's something to consider though the odd day is fine but a week would stress me out .
I am of the same thinking m8 but it’s been costing me a fortune I am going to rethink things I’ve been paying regardless of being off with weather and sickness etc,those 2 things have already cost me 1000s.
I have always said they should be paid no matter the weather etc but it’s been a joke tbh I will no longer pay someone to sit at home,I’m having to earn a lot of money after wages and fuel before I can put the kettle on 😂 it’s not gonna continue.
Why are you employing someone in the first place Nigel?get rid and do it yourself....you'll be far happier and much less stress....you already know this!
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Surprised people don't pay their staff when it's bad weather. I was planning on paying mine a fixed salary no matter what, its only right isn't it ?
I honestly thought it would be hard to find someone who would accept 3 or 4 days pay a week rather than 5 or potentially zero it's something to consider though the odd day is fine but a week would stress me out .
What if there’s ten of them?
Economy of scale. Having 10 of them shouldn’t be a reason/excuse.
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;DDon’t forget they’re accruing holidays, while ‘frozen’ off work!
As Darran said, it’s a two way street , you need a good relationship and understanding between employer and employee.
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A local window cleaning business recently advertised for a window cleaner.
The advert noted that candidates must be prepared to work on the rain.
A couple of weeks ago they had a van in our area.. It was chucking it down with rain along with strong winds and these guys were out cleaning windows.
I must be going soft in my old age as I didn't work that day.
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My customers wouldn’t put up with it.
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My customers wouldn’t put up with it.
That old chestnut.....of course they will! just keep turning up in the rain and most don't bat an eyelid after a few years.any that do just miss them out.its much better than losing a full day's money.
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No they won’t Daz if the day is going to shower on and off then of course I’ll sit it out and work between the rain,I never turn up in the rain and start work the only time I’ll ever do this is obviously if it’s insides or a big conny-greenhouse wash down.
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No they won’t Daz if the day is going to shower on and off then of course I’ll sit it out and work between the rain,I never turn up in the rain and start work the only time I’ll ever do this is obviously if it’s insides or a big conny-greenhouse wash down.
That must be the downside of having big posh houses. They dictate when you work to some extent.
My model is the opposite lots of small houses. Stack em high, if one cancels due to rain get another one.
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It swings about Stoots I can have a couple of days off and make up for it by bringing stuff forward etc or bigger stuff that’s due,i can see why you’d need to work in the rain if you employ but even then there’s a point with the weather that I won’t work.
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It’s not so much training customers it’s whether I want to work in the pouring rain dressed like a North Sea fisherman with pink wellies.
Not worked in the rain since 2007 and haven’t starved yet 🙂
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If you work alone you shouldn’t ever need to get a drop of rain on you if you’ve sorted decent work out over the years.
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I have to say life is more about not working in the rain from where I see it these days.
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I don’t work in the rain either, drizzle/light rain yes, heavy rain no. I only work 4 shortish days per week so plenty time to get caught up. As NWH mentioned, I don’t lose out, if they are late in getting cleaned on one 4 weekly cycle, I just clean them a little earlier on the next 4 weekly cycle. 4 weekly customers always get at least 12 cleans per year, some get 13 as I also use this strategy for holidays.
Obviously if you are stacked with work this won’t be an option but as soon as I’m over a 4 day week I sell off some work.
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Snow this week - I see more misery for NWH
Darran
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No they won’t Daz if the day is going to shower on and off then of course I’ll sit it out and work between the rain,I never turn up in the rain and start work the only time I’ll ever do this is obviously if it’s insides or a big conny-greenhouse wash down.
I honestly can't be arsed keep sitting in the van every half hour or so on a showery day.i will sit out a really heavy shower for 5 mins or so but that's it.
Otherwise I just crack on.
The only days I don't bother is like last Tuesday when it's biblical rain for hours and hours! ;D
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Lovely weather today...crisp,dry and sunny and forecast looks good for the rest of the week... 8)
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Water started freezing about 3:00pm
near Bolton.
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Water started freezing about 3:00pm
near Bolton.
Thought you were based Monmouthshire Herefordshire border.
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Water started freezing about 3:00pm
near Bolton.
Thought you were based Monmouthshire Herefordshire border.
I am. Cover the UK.
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Minus 3 here so frustrating I'll give it a go at 9am get the feeling it's going to be pointless
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Minus 3 here so frustrating I'll give it a go at 9am get the feeling it's going to be pointless
You’ll be fine after 9.30
10.til 2 for me
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-7 here.
Struggled to get van door open.
Thank goodness I took pump and fittings inside last night!
You out Slacky?
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Minus 3 here so frustrating I'll give it a go at 9am get the feeling it's going to be pointless
It'll be fine.i worked in -9 before xmas....
Mainly commercial jobs this morning and a few large houses this afternoon.currently-2 and getting up to 3c this afternoon.
Perfectly workable day.ill be working 930am till around 3pm.
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It's my best earning day on my round too today! 8)
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It's my best earning day on my round too today! 8)
rip off merchant ;D ;D ;D
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It's my best earning day on my round too today! 8)
rip off merchant ;D ;D ;D
I've changed my name to hi ho silver! ;D ;D
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I honestly can't be arsed keep sitting in the van every half hour or so on a showery day.
Isn't that why you got a heated seat?
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I wish I had water today that's for sure .
Done 3 houses and all freezing on the glass , having to leave some frozen as cant defrost them..not happy with any of them still dirt still frozen on the sills ;D just hoping I get away with it
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Hot water anyone lol.
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Been out but can’t get back. My wellies have frozen to the road.
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I honestly can't be arsed keep sitting in the van every half hour or so on a showery day.
Isn't that why you got a heated seat?
He'll be complaining he's got piles next.
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Piles of money normally.
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I didn't bother today. Didn't have the will to go out there, it was still -2 at 11.30 today, there would've been time when I would've battled on, but seems I have better things to be doing....
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Nice easy day in the end...10am-230pm with half hour for lunch so only 4 hours actually working.it was -2 when I started and 3c when I finished.
Warmer tomorrow.getting up to 7c here. :)
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8-3 no problem.
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9am -230pm.perfect day,a few cups of coffee and no rain,sleet or snow! :)
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Out the door at 9 back home for 1.30.
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8-3 no problem.
How can you start work at 8am?it's still dark here til 830am....
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Side roads were well dodgy this morning, but got a full day in 7:30 - 2pm.
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Dark at 8 AM ?
your joking of course Daz
Darran
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I always start at 8 (unless its frozen) dark or not.
I used to start at 9, then it became 8:30 and now 8. I used to be worried i was bothering people starting that early but stopped caring now. Sooner you get out sooner you can get home.
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Yep, feels like you’ve lost loads of time when you start at 9 or later. Always 8 or earlier for me.
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8-3 no problem.
How can you start work at 8am?it's still dark here til 830am....
Quite easily, it was light ;D
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Some days I don’t even start.
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Dark at 8 AM ?
your joking of course Daz
Darran
Still dark here at 8am at this time of year Darran
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1674070457_Screenshot_20230118_193326_Photos.jpg)
;D
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1674070457_Screenshot_20230118_193326_Photos.jpg)
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That’s in deepest darkest Salford Daz. Over here in leafy Cheshire the sun is up by 7:30 ;D
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07:53
Thursday, 19 January 2023 (GMT)
Sunrise in Great Yarmouth, UK
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Got very fond memories of holidaying in Hemsby m8,Pontins on the right as you head down towards the beach having houses built on it now I believe used to go every August for the snooker week 37-38 years ago with all the top names.
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Fresh dumping of snow here overnight. With all the ice, then rain, now snow, it’s probably the worst winter I can remember for a good 10 years or so. Roll on spring.
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Fresh dumping of snow here overnight. With all the ice, then rain, now snow, it’s probably the worst winter I can remember for a good 10 years or so. Roll on spring.
TRUE
Years Around 2010 time were horrendous here in NW for WC ing
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Fresh dumping of snow here overnight. With all the ice, then rain, now snow, it’s probably the worst winter I can remember for a good 10 years or so. Roll on spring.
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Years Around 2010 time were horrendous here in NW for WC ing
Yep, that was my first winter. I remember getting to the 18th floor of a block of flats to clean the communals and the thermometer read -18°c. Fuel cap froze solid on my van ;D
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Fresh dumping of snow here overnight. With all the ice, then rain, now snow, it’s probably the worst winter I can remember for a good 10 years or so. Roll on spring.
It's nowhere near as bad as January 2010.we had thick snow here that didn't thaw for weeks and weeks with temperatures as low as -15 overnight.
I had 3 weeks off as it was too dangerous to drive the van and i didnt have hot water......up to now ive had 2 days off this winter due to biblical
rainy weather.
Around 2 inches of lying snow here and its just started snowing again so I'll make a decision in the next hour whether to work or not...I will have no problem with water freezing but its driving the van with half a ton of water in the back which is the real issue(getting stuck down side roads is a real risk).... ::)roll
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Fresh dumping of snow here overnight. With all the ice, then rain, now snow, it’s probably the worst winter I can remember for a good 10 years or so. Roll on spring.
It's nowhere near as bad as January 2010.
I’m not sure I said it was Daz ??? ;D ;D
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Thirty days has September,
April, June, and November,
All the rest have thirty-one,
Except for January,
Which has about 700!!
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No what you mean clean clear, Jan getting longer and crapper
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Sun back out after snow, ???
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2010....winter!
Pull up a sandbag and swing the light bulb! ;D
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2010 was great for me, i was a delivery driver and i got loads of paid days off because its wasnt safe to drive.
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Worked 10am-3pm.all work completed no problems... 8)
It got up to 4c this afternoon and it was sunny for most of the day.
Same hours tomorrow then weekend off....warmer next week lads! ;D
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Full day here also but the roads were sketchy this morning, my street being as bad as anywhere, 5°c out now so should all have melted by midnight.