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Title: new van a year old now!service time...
Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 08:24:38 am
my van is booked in for 9am this morning..just an oil change...ive done 4000 miles in my first year.should i  be getting my fuel filter changed as well?(its a 1.5 tdci euro 6 engine)or leave it for another year?

cheers guys.first day this year ive woken up to snow outside so im glad ive got the day off today... :)
Title: Re: new van a year old now!service time...
Post by: andyM on February 12, 2018, 08:33:24 am
Crikey, a year? that's gone quick!
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Post by: Walter Mitty on February 12, 2018, 09:30:24 am
my van is booked in for 9am this morning..just an oil change...ive done 4000 miles in my first year.should i  be getting my fuel filter changed as well?(its a 1.5 tdci euro 6 engine)or leave it for another year?

cheers guys.first day this year ive woken up to snow outside so im glad ive got the day off today... :)
Who knowsif the filter should be changed too?  My last van's final problem was to do with fuel and pump, so I prefer to keep such things as clean as possible.  I wasn't prepared to throw another thousand at something that was becoming so unreliable.
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Post by: Scrimble on February 12, 2018, 10:33:18 am
read the manual which came with the van and it will tell you exactly when all the filters need to be changed.
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Post by: Soupy on February 12, 2018, 10:34:43 am
Surely with a new van you are going to the main dealer to maintain the warranty?
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Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 11:36:21 am
Surely with a new van you are going to the main dealer to maintain the warranty?

nope.no need to..my local garage are brilliant.ive been taking cars and vans there for nearly 30 years.they will only fit genuine ford parts just like a main dealer but without the rip off prices.. ;)
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Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 11:38:06 am
read the manual which came with the van and it will tell you exactly when all the filters need to be changed.

60,000 miles before ford recommend a fuel filter change on the new connect diesel vans so no need for  A VERY LONG time.. :)

so itll be 15 years before itll need changing going by 4k a year current mileage! ;D
Title: Re: new van a year old now!service time...
Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 11:40:34 am
Crikey, a year? that's gone quick!

yep it has hasnt it mate?only another 30 years until retirement.... ;D
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Post by: lal on February 12, 2018, 11:44:16 am
Surely with a new van you are going to the main dealer to maintain the warranty?

nope.no need to..my local garage are brilliant.ive been taking cars and vans there for nearly 30 years.they will only fit genuine ford parts just like a main dealer but without the rip off prices.. ;)


 Hi dazmond, if you use another garage for the oil change, won't that void the warranty with the Main dealer it was
 bought from.
Title: Re: new van a year old now!service time...
Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 11:47:23 am
Surely with a new van you are going to the main dealer to maintain the warranty?

nope.no need to..my local garage are brilliant.ive been taking cars and vans there for nearly 30 years.they will only fit genuine ford parts just like a main dealer but without the rip off prices.. ;)


 Hi dazmond, if you use another garage for the oil change, won't that void the warranty with the Main dealer it was
 bought from.

no.as long as its a reputable garage and genuine ford parts/recommended oils are used and you get a receipt its fine.its only an oil change im having done...
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Post by: JandS on February 12, 2018, 12:29:32 pm
You can service at any garage as long as they stamp the book.
Shouldn't need a service after 4000 miles.
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Post by: Slacky on February 12, 2018, 01:27:31 pm
Waste of time taking it in.
Title: Re: new van a year old now!service time...
Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 01:27:49 pm
You can service at any garage as long as they stamp the book.
Shouldn't need a service after 4000 miles.

no but you should service a vehicle after 12 months regardless of mileage IMO...i always do these days whether its my van or the golf.....
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Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 01:29:41 pm
Waste of time taking it in.

why matt?they wont charge me much and ill have fresh  oil swirling around my engine.i might as well look after it.....
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Post by: Slacky on February 12, 2018, 01:32:32 pm
Go to work instead.
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Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 01:43:44 pm
Go to work instead.

im not missing out on any work though matt as i only work 4 or 5 days a week...this week its 4 days.... :)
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Post by: Delta on February 12, 2018, 02:16:51 pm
One year old is an interim service on your van. Basic check over.
Oil change is at 20k miles.
Check on Ford ETIS
http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegSelector.do
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Post by: KS Cleaning on February 12, 2018, 02:32:08 pm
I get free Ford breakdown assistance, one of the conditions for this continued cover is that the van has to be serviced by a ford dealer.
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Post by: Don Kee on February 12, 2018, 03:01:14 pm
I get free Ford breakdown assistance, one of the conditions for this continued cover is that the van has to be serviced by a ford dealer.


Everyone that has their vehicle serviced at a ford dealership gets 12months breakdown cover.

First year is interim, second year is ‘Full’ service Daz.
To be honest, I’ve just have the full service done by Ford every year as it isn’t that much more than the interim and the local dealers prices are pretty good. You dont need to go to Ford though, just genuine parts need to be used.

Fuel filter is a 2 year or 60k recommended change (I think) from memory.
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Post by: p1w1 on February 12, 2018, 03:36:48 pm
Well i was told by a Fiat main dealer nowadays as long as the garage uses the genuine parts and is VAT registered then the warranty is not void (that is with Fiat may be different with Ford) .
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Post by: Perfect Windows on February 12, 2018, 05:06:13 pm
Well i was told by a Fiat main dealer nowadays as long as the garage uses the genuine parts and is VAT registered then the warranty is not void (that is with Fiat may be different with Ford) .

It's a law (brought in by the evil EU) to prevent main dealers ripping off consumers. As long as it's done to spec with genuine parts, you can take it anywhere and the manufacturer has to honour your warranty.

Vin
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Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 05:29:04 pm
Well i was told by a Fiat main dealer nowadays as long as the garage uses the genuine parts and is VAT registered then the warranty is not void (that is with Fiat may be different with Ford) .

It's a law (brought in by the evil EU) to prevent main dealers ripping off consumers. As long as it's done to spec with genuine parts, you can take it anywhere and the manufacturer has to honour your warranty.

Vin

correct vin. :)

ive got my van back now.they charged me £80 for interim service and oil and filter change and got my service book stamped. ;)

there is no way it would be that cheap at a main dealer.i reckon itd be more like £180.
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Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 05:34:12 pm
One year old is an interim service on your van. Basic check over.
Oil change is at 20k miles.
Check on Ford ETIS
http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegSelector.do

an interim service ALWAYS includes changing the oil and filter as well as basic checks mate....how long have you been driving? ;D
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Post by: Stoots on February 12, 2018, 05:50:28 pm
changing the oil every 12 months is always good practice.

Manual says 20k so is daz supposed to not change his oil for 5 years?
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Post by: andyM on February 12, 2018, 06:06:06 pm
changing the oil every 12 months is always good practice.

Manual says 20k so is daz supposed to not change his oil for 5 years?

No it's the stated mileage or time interval, which ever is sooner.
Title: Re: new van a year old now!service time...
Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 06:07:51 pm
changing the oil every 12 months is always good practice.

Manual says 20k so is daz supposed to not change his oil for 5 years?

its not gonna do any harm is it adam?and at £80 i think its well worth it...i want to really look after this van...
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Post by: Marc Stock on February 12, 2018, 06:15:04 pm
Our family car the Mazda has this electronic service record thingy. I have to go to main dealer if i want to keep the electronic record up to date.
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Post by: Stoots on February 12, 2018, 06:19:38 pm
changing the oil every 12 months is always good practice.

Manual says 20k so is daz supposed to not change his oil for 5 years?

No it's the stated mileage or time interval, which ever is sooner.

obviously
Title: Re: new van a year old now!service time...
Post by: dazmond on February 12, 2018, 06:31:28 pm
Our family car the Mazda has this electronic service record thingy. I have to go to main dealer if i want to keep the electronic record up to date.

yep i had the option to do this but i never take vehicles to main dealers(they always charge at least double what my local garage charges,sometimes the dealers charge triple the amount for services,cambelt changes,new brake pads etc,etc)no thanks...
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Post by: JandS on February 12, 2018, 07:01:57 pm
Got my new car Nov 2016....first service due 20,000 miles or 2 years.
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Post by: zesty on February 12, 2018, 08:21:45 pm
Waste of time taking it in.

why matt?they wont charge me much and ill have fresh  oil swirling around my engine.i might as well look after it.....

Just did the same Daz.

Only done 6k miles since last Jan in my 3 year old Transit Custom, but I get the oil and filter changed every year regardless of mileage, it’s only 80 odd quid!

Despite Ford recommending up to 30k miles between oil changes in the customs, no way would i wait that long!

They need fresh oil, especially being chain driven and not belt. Also make sure they don’t put too much oil in if you have a DPF, the DPF’s don’t like oil in them! And over filling even slightly can be a problem further down the road.



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Post by: jonboywalton75 on February 12, 2018, 11:54:38 pm
Surely with a new van you are going to the main dealer to maintain the warranty?

I went to the main Ford dealer local to me.
The worst service I've ever had.
They didn't have the manners to wear a mask when giving me the bill.
Main dealers overrated, go to someone you trust
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Post by: Spruce on February 13, 2018, 07:35:23 am
There also maybe a clause in his lease agreement that specifies how and where servicing is to be done. I appreciate that Daz's future plan is to take ownership at the end of the lease, but until then the van is owned by someone else who has the right to dictate how you maintain their property.

Vin is right about you not being forced to take your van to the main dealers for service to keep your warranty valid. One the other hand, the dealers may give one the impression that you wouldn't want to jeopardise your warranty by taking your van to someone who doesn't know what they are doing. 

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Post by: andyM on February 13, 2018, 07:38:35 am
I think you have to take your vehicle to the main dealer to keep the anti perforation warranty going though.
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Post by: dd on February 13, 2018, 08:26:28 am
Got my new car Nov 2016....first service due 20,000 miles or 2 years.
Despite what your manual says it is best to at least change the oil and filter at 10k, 20 000 miles is too long. Speak to any decent mechanic and they would tell you this.
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Post by: dazmond on February 13, 2018, 08:42:44 am
There also maybe a clause in his lease agreement that specifies how and where servicing is to be done. I appreciate that Daz's future plan is to take ownership at the end of the lease, but until then the van is owned by someone else who has the right to dictate how you maintain their property.

Vin is right about you not being forced to take your van to the main dealers for service to keep your warranty valid. One the other hand, the dealers may give one the impression that you wouldn't want to jeopardise your warranty by taking your van to someone who doesn't know what they are doing.

nope no clause in my agreement spruce.....its in my interest to look after the van so itll be serviced every year just like my car.all it says is that i should take "reasonable care of the vehicle" in the terms and conditions...

its amazing how many people think you have to take cars/vans to main dealers to maintain the warranty!like ive said before as long as its a reputable garage AND they use ford/motorcraft parts and you keep all receipts so you have the vans history its not a problem...
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Post by: Perfect Windows on February 13, 2018, 10:30:39 am
My local garage is a diamond of a place. I often end up in chats with the bloke who runs it.  He once made a point that stuck with me. There are two kinds of people, ones who have their vehicles serviced and ones who pay for big repairs.  I think you're bang on the nail, Dazmond - having it serviced every year will probably work out cheaper than not bothering.

Vin
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Post by: Spruce on February 13, 2018, 04:52:24 pm
Well i was told by a Fiat main dealer nowadays as long as the garage uses the genuine parts and is VAT registered then the warranty is not void (that is with Fiat may be different with Ford) .

It's a law (brought in by the evil EU) to prevent main dealers ripping off consumers. As long as it's done to spec with genuine parts, you can take it anywhere and the manufacturer has to honour your warranty.

Vin

correct vin. :)

ive got my van back now.they charged me £80 for interim service and oil and filter change and got my service book stamped. ;)

there is no way it would be that cheap at a main dealer.i reckon itd be more like £180.

Now, in a months time can you prove to Ford that genuine Ford parts were fitted at this service.

If you can't then you need to be buying the parts needed from Ford yourself, get and invoice, and then supply the parts to your mechanic. Keep the invoices along with your service record in the servcie book.
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Post by: Perfect Windows on February 13, 2018, 04:59:22 pm
Now, in a months time can you prove to Ford that genuine Ford parts were fitted at this service.

If you can't then you need to be buying the parts needed from Ford yourself, get and invoice, and then supply the parts to your mechanic. Keep the invoices along with your service record in the servcie book.

Good point!  http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/35704/watchdog-keeping-your-warranty-valid