Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: nathankaye on August 09, 2017, 04:04:23 pm
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Come on guys this forum is about helping and helping newbies I suppose. Recently new ones have been asking all sorts of questions on here and yes youtube is full of vids anyway. So why not stick some up on this forum to help, so please if you feel need to criticize than please feel free to do a quick vid whilst your out working anyway to add to this one on the thread and be helpful.
(No excuses, im a one man band and can buy out 3 mins to do a video so it wont hurt you to do so either)
https://youtu.be/yUHH-8nB1H0
Disclaimer 😂😂
I had headphones on with a speaker but It hasnt picked up the speech too great, sorry.
Ok so i use a 14inch brush, 6 jets which for me sits in snuggly with most windows and i try to point this out on the video along with trying to show the flow (you may hear me say this).
Also its a 4wkly clean so i dont clean the frames every time as they dont need doing so (but greater durations and especially first cleans its a must to clean the frames to stop dirt falling back onto the wet windows and making a hash of your work) but on this vid i do demonstrate how i do so. where im cleaning the frames sidewards on, half my brush and jets are cleaning the frames whilst the battom half of the brush and remaining 3 jets are cleaning/rinsing the glass as well or aiding the rinse of dirty water from the top part of the frame.
Hope this helps and be lovely to see other posts vids themselves and not old vids they did years ago.
(Thought i would go back and highlight some points being brought into question)
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Do we really have to watch you cleaning Windows again ;D
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You forgot to clean the door 🚪
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Hi ho, hi ho.... ;D
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Do we really have to watch you cleaning Windows again ;D
;D ;D haha ive just watched it back and yes its a little boring!! Especially with speech not being picked up
But did say its mostly for newbies
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You forgot to clean the door 🚪
I always clean the door last after ive been paid. When i first started i would do the door and then when they open it to pay and have a quick chat, they would end up with a wet carpet. Since then i wait until they pay or if not in, after ive posted a ticket.
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I don't understand why you bother, it strikes me as being purely narcissistic to be honest.
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I don't understand why you bother, it strikes me as being purely narcissistic to be honest.
Quite honestly its the opposite. I dont know how many vids i watched and researched switching from trad to wfp or for soft washing or jet washing.
I also got plenty of help n advice from this forum in between the sarcasm of peoples comments.
Its nice to be at the other side and give advice n help to ones.
Like i said it breaks up the boredom and only takes a couple of mins to help someone. Going on a big bike ride to lovely places to raise money isnt quite a hardship either but 5 mins out a day to help rather than criticise can go a long way.
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You're right, its more of a holiday than a hardship.
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whats laughable nathan is you saying you cleaned 15 houses in 2 and a half hours on another video.its BS mate!some of us have been window cleaners for well over 20 years and know roughly how many an hour we can clean(3 or 4 an hour,5 at a push).
how come you can clean more than anyone else in the same time?...because its either BS or your doing some serious corner cutting! ;D..........oh and as well as doing 3 or 4 videos! ;D
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With all due respect Nathan, I wouldn't be encouraging any newbies to watch and learn from that video as it would be asking for trouble.
It may work well for you but for a beginner I would strongly recommend not to rinse on the glass.
If a newbie sticks a 14 inch flocked brush on the end of their pole and starts trying to rinse on the glass then they'll be losing customers as quick as they gain them.
I do appreciate you are trying to help others, which is commendable, but if I'm totally honest you often come across as cutting corners to try and get through as much as work as possible.
You can't teach speed, you can only teach technique, the speed eventually follows.
If you really want to teach newbies then slow down, show them the basics, different techniques for certain windows etc etc. Let them figure out the speed they are capable of once they know what they're doing.
If someone watches your videos to learn the game and thinks that's the industry standard and that's how they need to work from the get go, then you could have the opposite effect of what your trying to achieve and be setting them up for failure.
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You forgot to clean the door 🚪
I always clean the door last after ive been paid. When i first started i would do the door and then when they open it to pay and have a quick chat, they would end up with a wet carpet. Since then i wait until they pay or if not in, after ive posted a ticket.
Why don't you ring the bell before you start the downstairs window, saves you hanging about doing nothing while you're waiting for them to come to the door with the money. Also I think your video shows perfectly how it is better to use a standard size brush on domestic work rather than the 14" one you are using.
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You are brave for putting up videos il give you that ;D
Most of us don't have the balls to do it as we know the guns come out and everyone will start taking shots at us. It's happened many a times over the years. Ask vin (perfect windows), it drove him off the forum for a while!
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whats laughable nathan is you saying you cleaned 15 houses in 2 and a half hours on another video.its BS mate!some of us have been window cleaners for well over 20 years and know roughly how many an hour we can clean(3 or 4 an hour,5 at a push).
how come you can clean more than anyone else in the same time?...because its either BS or your doing some serious corner cutting! ;D..........oh and as well as doing 3 or 4 videos! ;D
Because you and some others can only clean 5 houses an hour doesn't mean others can't clean more. I have also come under fire on here for the amount of houses I clean per hour, I don't lose any sleep over it if some think it's BS, I know what I can and can't do. Do I cut corners? I might be a little bit splash and dash compared to some on here but the most important thing is that my customers are happy with the job I do and the service I provide. Just to throw a curve ball in there, perhaps some people over clean to justify the prices they charge?
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whats laughable nathan is you saying you cleaned 15 houses in 2 and a half hours on another video.its BS mate!some of us have been window cleaners for well over 20 years and know roughly how many an hour we can clean(3 or 4 an hour,5 at a push).
how come you can clean more than anyone else in the same time?...because its either BS or your doing some serious corner cutting! ;D..........oh and as well as doing 3 or 4 videos! ;D
You are more than welcome to spend a day or half a day working with me to find out daz.
Also i showed how small those houses were buddy and compact on that video. Also bear in mind they are 4weekly and not covered in tree sap or worse.
Finally technique mate plays a huge part as well as equipment. Yes im 2 yrs on wfp and over 13yrs on trad, working day after day cleaning tediously and you dont think technique can be perfected if you push yourself. As for instance on the 2 techniques i did a vid on trad cleaning. Using either one of those methods would increase your speed especially doing so day in day out. Someone commented on that vid how they go slow and mop a window, squeegee a window.....what a slow process!! Someone gave comment how they go slow so not to have much detailing to do.........well i disagree!! Push yourself and perfect your technique because when you do, you might suprise yourself what your capeable off!!!
So if you wanna believe its Bull, then thats your choice. If others think speed equals poor quality than thats their problem to deal with. If ones want to flood each window to convince themselves that a good job is done then so be it and finally the ones who except that they cant do what others can do, then i feel sorry for you infact i pity you and the likes of some comments because you limit yourselfs with limitations placed by your minds eye and not the reality of what you can achieve!!
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With all due respect Nathan, I wouldn't be encouraging any newbies to watch and learn from that video as it would be asking for trouble.
It may work well for you but for a beginner I would strongly recommend not to rinse on the glass.
If a newbie sticks a 14 inch flocked brush on the end of their pole and starts trying to rinse on the glass then they'll be losing customers as quick as they gain them.
I do appreciate you are trying to help others, which is commendable, but if I'm totally honest you often come across as cutting corners to try and get through as much as work as possible.
You can't teach speed, you can only teach technique, the speed eventually follows.
If you really want to teach newbies then slow down, show them the basics, different techniques for certain windows etc etc. Let them figure out the speed they are capable of once they know what they're doing.
If someone watches your videos to learn the game and thinks that's the industry standard and that's how they need to work from the get go, then you could have the opposite effect of what your trying to achieve and be setting them up for failure.
Some good points!
As can tell from this vid it was kinda spontaneous, resting my phone on top of the van. Didnt realise i wasnt in shot most of the time sadly. Also the bluetooth headset I have with microphone built in didnt help as I am actually explaining what im doing and why, but sadly it didnt get picked up for some reason. So this has been a learning curve for doing these vids and I do plan on doing more thats why I have this you tube channel and i will be focusing on the steps/points you mentioned. Lol just not be highlighting them too much on this forum
((Just an additional point its a dual trim monofilament brush, so rinsing on the glass is ok, even for newbies))
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I like your videos nathan, but this one seemed a bit pointless really, just some chap cleaning windows...
it was like watching paint dry :'(
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whats laughable nathan is you saying you cleaned 15 houses in 2 and a half hours on another video.its BS mate!some of us have been window cleaners for well over 20 years and know roughly how many an hour we can clean(3 or 4 an hour,5 at a push).
how come you can clean more than anyone else in the same time?...because its either BS or your doing some serious corner cutting! ;D..........oh and as well as doing 3 or 4 videos! ;D
You are more than welcome to spend a day or half a day working with me to find out daz.
Also i showed how small those houses were buddy and compact on that video. Also bear in mind they are 4weekly and not covered in tree sap or worse.
Finally technique mate plays a huge part as well as equipment. Yes im 2 yrs on wfp and over 13yrs on trad, working day after day cleaning tediously and you dont think technique can be perfected if you push yourself. As for instance on the 2 techniques i did a vid on trad cleaning. Using either one of those methods would increase your speed especially doing so day in day out. Someone commented on that vid how they go slow and mop a window, squeegee a window.....what a slow process!! Someone gave comment how they go slow so not to have much detailing to do.........well i disagree!! Push yourself and perfect your technique because when you do, you might suprise yourself what your capeable off!!!
So if you wanna believe its Bull, then thats your choice. If others think speed equals poor quality than thats their problem to deal with. If ones want to flood each window to convince themselves that a good job is done then so be it and finally the ones who except that they cant do what others can do, then i feel sorry for you infact i pity you and the likes of some comments because you limit yourselfs with limitations placed by your minds eye and not the reality of what you can achieve!!
steady and brisk is how i like to work these days mate. ;D
running round like a busy fool is not for me anymore nathan.(esp if the customer is in!) ;D
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I like your videos nathan, but this one seemed a bit pointless really, just some chap cleaning windows...
it was like watching paint dry :'(
Yep im gonna delete soon. I thought with having a bluetooth microphone it would pick up the speech but it hasnt done so. When i uploaded it from my phone I thought it might just be my speakers and that a laptop or whatever would play the speech louder. But I have just chrome casted it to my TV and on full pelt on sound you cant hear me which goes against what i was trying to achieve :'(
In answer to someone else comment about the 14inch brush, when im cleaning the downstairs bay and working from the side, i do say on vid (thats why this copy is pointless) that i have a 14inch brush, half the brush is cleaning the top frame with 3 jets on, and half the brush is cleaning top line of the window again with 3 jets on, which not only aids in shifting any dirt from the top frame but also on the window as well. So the idiots who say about cutting corners with speed or whatever get off your high horses and correct your stubborn way of thinking.
Would i have compact rounds and be in this job for over 15 yrs if i did a crap job splashing windows and the prices that my customers pay compared to local competition. I do wonder how some of you guys actually work, its like living in dark ages from what alot of you think. Youve been in a rut for so long that when others come along with new ideas, styles ((and what makes me laugh is that because ive not been on this forum long or on wfp long you think im a newbie)) and results you close your mind to it because in your tiny minds if youve not been able to do it in X amount of years then no one can.
Thats why people like me and others including Lee may come across as a threat perhaps.........bet your glad Lee isnt operating in your areas im guessing.
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whats laughable nathan is you saying you cleaned 15 houses in 2 and a half hours on another video.its BS mate!some of us have been window cleaners for well over 20 years and know roughly how many an hour we can clean(3 or 4 an hour,5 at a push).
how come you can clean more than anyone else in the same time?...because its either BS or your doing some serious corner cutting! ;D..........oh and as well as doing 3 or 4 videos! ;D
You are more than welcome to spend a day or half a day working with me to find out daz.
Also i showed how small those houses were buddy and compact on that video. Also bear in mind they are 4weekly and not covered in tree sap or worse.
Finally technique mate plays a huge part as well as equipment. Yes im 2 yrs on wfp and over 13yrs on trad, working day after day cleaning tediously and you dont think technique can be perfected if you push yourself. As for instance on the 2 techniques i did a vid on trad cleaning. Using either one of those methods would increase your speed especially doing so day in day out. Someone commented on that vid how they go slow and mop a window, squeegee a window.....what a slow process!! Someone gave comment how they go slow so not to have much detailing to do.........well i disagree!! Push yourself and perfect your technique because when you do, you might suprise yourself what your capeable off!!!
So if you wanna believe its Bull, then thats your choice. If others think speed equals poor quality than thats their problem to deal with. If ones want to flood each window to convince themselves that a good job is done then so be it and finally the ones who except that they cant do what others can do, then i feel sorry for you infact i pity you and the likes of some comments because you limit yourselfs with limitations placed by your minds eye and not the reality of what you can achieve!!
steady and brisk is how i like to work these days mate. ;D
running round like a busy fool is not for me anymore nathan.(esp if the customer is in!) ;D
I take it your not going to take him up on his offer of teaching you how to clean windows the right way ? lol.
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I like your videos nathan, but this one seemed a bit pointless really, just some chap cleaning windows...
it was like watching paint dry :'(
Yep im gonna delete soon. I thought with having a bluetooth microphone it would pick up the speech but it hasnt done so. When i uploaded it from my phone I thought it might just be my speakers and that a laptop or whatever would play the speech louder. But I have just chrome casted it to my TV and on full pelt on sound you cant hear me which goes against what i was trying to achieve :'(
In answer to someone else comment about the 14inch brush, when im cleaning the downstairs bay and working from the side, i do say on vid (thats why this copy is pointless) that i have a 14inch brush, half the brush is cleaning the top frame with 3 jets on, and half the brush is cleaning top line of the window again with 3 jets on, which not only aids in shifting any dirt from the top frame but also on the window as well. So the idiots who say about cutting corners with speed or whatever get off your high horses and correct your stubborn way of thinking.
Would i have compact rounds and be in this job for over 15 yrs if i did a crap job splashing windows and the prices that my customers pay compared to local competition. I do wonder how some of you guys actually work, its like living in dark ages from what alot of you think. Youve been in a rut for so long that when others come along with new ideas, styles ((and what makes me laugh is that because ive not been on this forum long or on wfp long you think im a newbie)) and results you close your mind to it because in your tiny minds if youve not been able to do it in X amount of years then no one can.
Thats why people like me and others including Lee may come across as a threat perhaps.........bet your glad Lee isnt operating in your areas im guessing.
even with all your fannying about i bet i still earn a lot more than you do over the course of a year(and do less hours!) :D
i reckon your a 25 grand a year window cleaner. ;D
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whats laughable nathan is you saying you cleaned 15 houses in 2 and a half hours on another video.its BS mate!some of us have been window cleaners for well over 20 years and know roughly how many an hour we can clean(3 or 4 an hour,5 at a push).
how come you can clean more than anyone else in the same time?...because its either BS or your doing some serious corner cutting! ;D..........oh and as well as doing 3 or 4 videos! ;D
You are more than welcome to spend a day or half a day working with me to find out daz.
Also i showed how small those houses were buddy and compact on that video. Also bear in mind they are 4weekly and not covered in tree sap or worse.
Finally technique mate plays a huge part as well as equipment. Yes im 2 yrs on wfp and over 13yrs on trad, working day after day cleaning tediously and you dont think technique can be perfected if you push yourself. As for instance on the 2 techniques i did a vid on trad cleaning. Using either one of those methods would increase your speed especially doing so day in day out. Someone commented on that vid how they go slow and mop a window, squeegee a window.....what a slow process!! Someone gave comment how they go slow so not to have much detailing to do.........well i disagree!! Push yourself and perfect your technique because when you do, you might suprise yourself what your capeable off!!!
So if you wanna believe its Bull, then thats your choice. If others think speed equals poor quality than thats their problem to deal with. If ones want to flood each window to convince themselves that a good job is done then so be it and finally the ones who except that they cant do what others can do, then i feel sorry for you infact i pity you and the likes of some comments because you limit yourselfs with limitations placed by your minds eye and not the reality of what you can achieve!!
steady and brisk is how i like to work these days mate. ;D
running round like a busy fool is not for me anymore nathan.(esp if the customer is in!) ;D
Im not exactly rushing on this video, infact I thought I was actually mindful of going slow. As you point out, i have time for one or 2 vids, coffee breaks or even the odd carvery.....not quite rushing around like a busy fool.
Reminds me of an experience. One was trad cleaning a bungalow (ive told this many a times) and how every time the old dear would come outside and check every window because to her i worked too fast. She never did in the many years I cleaned her windows. I explained im not a cowboy for beer money, this was my job, my living 5 days a week, 20 odd days a month!! I aint doing it for a charity or the good of my health or as a leisurely way of spending the afternoon. With the many years behind me doing this job, you get good and you get quick. A bit like chefs chopping onions or gutting a fish or the amazing speed painters etc!! Do they get good and fast at what they are doing because they go steady or work part time at doing so. NO its because of repetition, and what the heck do we do from house to house from window to window and from day to day!
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I like your videos nathan, but this one seemed a bit pointless really, just some chap cleaning windows...
it was like watching paint dry :'(
Yep im gonna delete soon. I thought with having a bluetooth microphone it would pick up the speech but it hasnt done so. When i uploaded it from my phone I thought it might just be my speakers and that a laptop or whatever would play the speech louder. But I have just chrome casted it to my TV and on full pelt on sound you cant hear me which goes against what i was trying to achieve :'(
In answer to someone else comment about the 14inch brush, when im cleaning the downstairs bay and working from the side, i do say on vid (thats why this copy is pointless) that i have a 14inch brush, half the brush is cleaning the top frame with 3 jets on, and half the brush is cleaning top line of the window again with 3 jets on, which not only aids in shifting any dirt from the top frame but also on the window as well. So the idiots who say about cutting corners with speed or whatever get off your high horses and correct your stubborn way of thinking.
Would i have compact rounds and be in this job for over 15 yrs if i did a crap job splashing windows and the prices that my customers pay compared to local competition. I do wonder how some of you guys actually work, its like living in dark ages from what alot of you think. Youve been in a rut for so long that when others come along with new ideas, styles ((and what makes me laugh is that because ive not been on this forum long or on wfp long you think im a newbie)) and results you close your mind to it because in your tiny minds if youve not been able to do it in X amount of years then no one can.
Thats why people like me and others including Lee may come across as a threat perhaps.........bet your glad Lee isnt operating in your areas im guessing.
even with all your fannying about i bet i still earn a lot more than you do over the course of a year(and do less hours!) :D
i reckon your a 25 grand a year window cleaner. ;D
Wrong.
30 properties over 5 hours over three days at £10 minimum price is £900 a week minimum for 15 hours work, your nowhere that. lol.
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I like your videos nathan, but this one seemed a bit pointless really, just some chap cleaning windows...
it was like watching paint dry :'(
Yep im gonna delete soon. I thought with having a bluetooth microphone it would pick up the speech but it hasnt done so. When i uploaded it from my phone I thought it might just be my speakers and that a laptop or whatever would play the speech louder. But I have just chrome casted it to my TV and on full pelt on sound you cant hear me which goes against what i was trying to achieve :'(
In answer to someone else comment about the 14inch brush, when im cleaning the downstairs bay and working from the side, i do say on vid (thats why this copy is pointless) that i have a 14inch brush, half the brush is cleaning the top frame with 3 jets on, and half the brush is cleaning top line of the window again with 3 jets on, which not only aids in shifting any dirt from the top frame but also on the window as well. So the idiots who say about cutting corners with speed or whatever get off your high horses and correct your stubborn way of thinking.
Would i have compact rounds and be in this job for over 15 yrs if i did a crap job splashing windows and the prices that my customers pay compared to local competition. I do wonder how some of you guys actually work, its like living in dark ages from what alot of you think. Youve been in a rut for so long that when others come along with new ideas, styles ((and what makes me laugh is that because ive not been on this forum long or on wfp long you think im a newbie)) and results you close your mind to it because in your tiny minds if youve not been able to do it in X amount of years then no one can.
Thats why people like me and others including Lee may come across as a threat perhaps.........bet your glad Lee isnt operating in your areas im guessing.
even with all your fannying about i bet i still earn a lot more than you do over the course of a year(and do less hours!) :D
i reckon your a 25 grand a year window cleaner. ;D
Really!! These comments,,,,really daz!!
;D ;D
So many threads about what drives people at their jobs. Some its money, others to make even more money. Some to take over the world with franchises, others with fleets of vans and several bases. For others its just for a stress free life compared to previous work pressures, some its for health reasons and still others its for family life. Lol for some its all of the above,
Lol i laugh how it always comes down to school yard tactics whos got the bigger @#ck! Who earns what per hour or the better car or house etc etc etc
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Nathan if you really do work as fast as you say i would genuinely like to come and witness it in person.
Because im doing something wrong...even when i graft my nuts off i cant get near the volumes you have claimed in the past.
Must be something im missing but i cnat seem to go any faster AND do a good job, i can slap dash of course but on inspection it wouldnt be as perfect as i like it to be.
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You lot on this forum are so critical it's actually unreal. Nathan made this video with intent to help out some newbies, regardless of whether this video is adequate for newbies to learn at least hes making the effort and trying things out, with videos etc. Yet he's getting so bashed for it. I might be the only one nathan but i actually enjoy your videos, shame about the sound on this one but other than that all seemed good. Also i dont have the balls to rinse on the glass, i'd be constantly worried that i havent rinsed properly ha!
Keep it up though mate
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Aye Dazmond is an ex alchie, wasted most of his youth, has no kids and lives on his own in a rented, pokey council flat! ;D
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You lot on this forum are so critical it's actually unreal. Nathan made this video with intent to help out some newbies, regardless of whether this video is adequate for newbies to learn at least hes making the effort and trying things out, with videos etc. Yet he's getting so bashed for it. I might be the only one nathan but i actually enjoy your videos, shame about the sound on this one but other than that all seemed good. Also i dont have the balls to rinse on the glass, i'd be constantly worried that i havent rinsed properly ha!
Keep it up though mate
Be thankful that there are people on here who are critical as without it how do you tell the good advice from the bad ?
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You lot on this forum are so critical it's actually unreal. Nathan made this video with intent to help out some newbies, regardless of whether this video is adequate for newbies to learn at least hes making the effort and trying things out, with videos etc. Yet he's getting so bashed for it. I might be the only one nathan but i actually enjoy your videos, shame about the sound on this one but other than that all seemed good. Also i dont have the balls to rinse on the glass, i'd be constantly worried that i havent rinsed properly ha!
Keep it up though mate
nah, too sensitive.
this video was bit rubbish, thast not being mean just being honest in the nicest possible way. Nathan has done some good videos in the past, this wasnt one. no need to lie.
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Nathan if you really do work as fast as you say i would genuinely like to come and witness it in person.
Because im doing something wrong...even when i graft my nuts off i cant get near the volumes you have claimed in the past.
Must be something im missing but i cnat seem to go any faster AND do a good job, i can slap dash of course but on inspection it wouldnt be as perfect as i like it to be.
You could get them Adam but like you say your quality would suffer, Nathan is under the illusion he's the only one who's ever
experimented with quick cleaning, I was forced to do it for want of not getting a decent price, believe me the quality was far
from perfect but would have more than done the cheapskates I was cleaning for, I just couldn't work that way so dumped the
lot a bought some better paying work where I could go at a speed that suited my own quality expectations.
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Nathan if you really do work as fast as you say i would genuinely like to come and witness it in person.
Because im doing something wrong...even when i graft my nuts off i cant get near the volumes you have claimed in the past.
Must be something im missing but i cnat seem to go any faster AND do a good job, i can slap dash of course but on inspection it wouldnt be as perfect as i like it to be.
How many houses are people getting in a day?? It depends on the house, depends on access and depends whats in the garden.
On top of that, it depends on the frequency of the cleans and locations of the houses you clean.
For instance on this video its a big cul de sac and the houses are packed in. There are no picket fences so i can clean the upstairs fronts of two houses before collapsing the pole to get the windows downstairs on the two houses. Know your route well, i work in zig zags so 2 house this side and cross over because it will help get my main hose to the 3rd house on the opposite side better than if i stayed on the side and did 3 houses next to each other.
Also my frames arent dirty, so not every house or every window needs the frame cleaning on every clean i do. In my opinion the large brush and many jets help the rinse n clean process. Working sideways gives me a better cut over top frame n seal rather than the normal way most people do. Especially if frames need cleaning because the brush n jet spread is wider im covering frame clean and partial window clean plus rinse at the same time. I also dont feel i need to drown a window to think its clean. (Im sure i have a vid on u tube where i clean a window fast and show the quality of the dried or virtually dried window).
Im sure most people do most of that anyway, im sure your not that slow yourself adam. But theres so many factors or varients in one mans area n windows compared to the next mans.
I refuse to believe if any of you guys reading these threads worked in this same area as shown on the video for 15years as I have, that you wouldnt have worked out the best route to take! Nor do i believe you wouldnt know each window and how best to get to it, which ones have a bad seal. Which ones are prone to slug trails etc etc etc and the list goes on and on and I point blank refuse to accept how with all of that, that you feel its near on impossible to get those 15 houses cleaned.
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Nathan if you really do work as fast as you say i would genuinely like to come and witness it in person.
Because im doing something wrong...even when i graft my nuts off i cant get near the volumes you have claimed in the past.
Must be something im missing but i cnat seem to go any faster AND do a good job, i can slap dash of course but on inspection it wouldnt be as perfect as i like it to be.
You could get them Adam but like you say your quality would suffer, Nathan is under the illusion he's the only one who's ever
experimented with quick cleaning, I was forced to do it for want of not getting a decent price, believe me the quality was far
from perfect but would have more than done the cheapskates I was cleaning for, I just couldn't work that way so dumped the
lot a bought some better paying work where I could go at a speed that suited my own quality expectations.
Do some people not read!!
Quality does not have to suffer my friend. If you have experimented than what are you doing wrong is what i would be asking yourself for allowing quality to suffer.
I refer back to squeegeeing if you did so??
Old school would be soak n wet each window. Mop down or in bucket on belt, then squeegee out and blade the window. Put away and detail if need be and finally wipe the sills!! A long boring tedious process and especially for people of your mind set who probably made sure the window had plenty of suds on because thats what cleans the window isnt it 😂😂😂
Others may do same as above and detail with a scrim in one hand whilst squeegee was in the other and this would increase productivity.
Others went from a 14inch mop n blade and went to 18inch which saved energy and morale and did as above.
I didnt like either and most should realise that where time was lost was moving ladders and detailing. For me i perfected my technique in blading so very little if any detailing was needed. Then improved the speed of doing so. After that i squeegeed and mopped at the same time or where large panes of glass were together i could mop one whilst blading the previous mopped window and again got gradually faster n faster at doing so. Windows that would take my smaller friend 2 moves of ladder to clean would take me one. But i assure you no quality suffered, but i became quick at my job by saving time. A bit like saying watch the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves 😂
Its the same principles on wfp and i do feel sorry for you if you feel you cant match working at a faster pace and keep quality from slipping!!
Did you guys invest in vision as well because it made the windows sparkle n bubble and so it must be good stuff 😂😂😂😂😂😂 hold on 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Hence why i get so @#$$ed off when people are closed minded and insist that quality and speed (that makes me laugh, speed......it isnt speed its just slightly quicker than what you think is possible)) cant exist in the same universe.
Pick fault with this, cause its dam fast compared to a normal painter
https://youtu.be/e4ba309H0WI
Then tell me how the two principles of your arguements are not the same, not related !!
Bet he has a smudge somewhere but the camera is too far away for us to see!! He drew it with pencil first (is always my favourite), he will sell it to a nobody who doesnt care because its not really art or skill full, its not quite a picasso or a Monet so quality can slip and you wont be non the wiser!!
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Haha final point i promise, (yep insomnia isnt great, especially if im on here all night as well, tho i might watch one of my vids im sure that might help 😂😂)
The vid where i mentioned and showed 15 houses that I cleaned in just over 2 hours wasnt meant to cause offense or even any way of showing off. It was in relation to pump usage in discussion of solar panel charging so it put perspective on how long the pump was draining wattage compared to the input from the panels.
Cause misleading truths is what i do as i have stakes in the solar panel industry as well as immersion heaters!
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Stop feeling sorry for people Nathan there's no need, anybody can be a splash and dash cowboy but not everybody can be a quality cleaner you have found what suits you. YeeeeeHaaaaaa.
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The issues I have when trying to go faster are
Not enough scrubbing so leave the odd mark thats not removed. I see people making one pass but my windows don't seem to be like that, there's nearly always some pollen, bird muck or something that requires extra scrubbing.
Not enough rinsing, all seems good then when you check after there's bits you haven't rinsed off
Sills not clean, with a quick swipe over it usually dislodges muck from under the gap. Takes a bit of rinsing or wipe with a cloth.
Perhaps the issue is I like mine to be perfect I just can't bring myself to do it half assed which is what I would feel like I was doing dashing round with a quick swipe of the glass rinsing on and a quick swipe of the sill.
OR maybe I am as fast as you Nathan perhaps it's that I don't have the compact work you have. I have next to nothing on the same street.
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Didn't even touch the sill on the window above the garage.
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Nice video Nathan.
I cant see what all the fuss is about, obviously you took your time and made sure the front was done correctly. Im sure you work double that speed on your normal runs you do.
The fact that you have built up a healthy business that you can get round each month and earn enough to live by your means you have done well.
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Aye Dazmond is an ex alchie, wasted most of his youth, has no kids and lives on his own in a rented, pokey council flat! ;D
yep thats right and slept with more women than you ve had hot dinners!........yes totally wasted! ;D ;D ;D
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The issues I have when trying to go faster are
Not enough scrubbing so leave the odd mark thats not removed. I see people making one pass but my windows don't seem to be like that, there's nearly always some pollen, bird muck or something that requires extra scrubbing.
Not enough rinsing, all seems good then when you check after there's bits you haven't rinsed off
Sills not clean, with a quick swipe over it usually dislodges muck from under the gap. Takes a bit of rinsing or wipe with a cloth.
Perhaps the issue is I like mine to be perfect I just can't bring myself to do it half assed which is what I would feel like I was doing dashing round with a quick swipe of the glass rinsing on and a quick swipe of the sill.
OR maybe I am as fast as you Nathan perhaps it's that I don't have the compact work you have. I have next to nothing on the same street.
The points you raise are interesting, how long have you n wife been doing this??
Like i said im not doing anything special, but ive been doing it long enough to know virtually each house I do. New customers houses may take a little longer till I get to know them but yes all but 2% of my work is compact which certainly helps ☺
But going back to your concerns, my brush is dual trimmed and short stiff bristles which give good scrubbing and good contact on the window. Its the tips of the monofilaments that does the work thats why i dont like brushes which spread open with the slightest contact on the glass.
Ive learnt not to look through the glass but look at the glass and especially on downstairs work you should be able to see the marks that need scrubbing if your paying attention even when going a little faster. Even on this vid you can see me scub in places where its needed.
Rinsing, i have 6 jets with good flow, and i mean good flow. Again i know my houses and i perhaps have 20 - 25 houses in my entire round which are hydrophobic.
I hate sills where the slightest bit of water gets undrneath and a tonne of dirt comes out. So i deal with it! May take a little longer on first couple of cleans but with 6 or 4 jets i had before, you can aim the jets underneath at an angle and flush all the crap out making later cleans easier.
But peolle need to film them selves its liberating and they may be suprised with what they find out about their own technique or even physically see what the time print is how fast they take!
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The issues I have when trying to go faster are
Not enough scrubbing so leave the odd mark thats not removed. I see people making one pass but my windows don't seem to be like that, there's nearly always some pollen, bird muck or something that requires extra scrubbing.
Not enough rinsing, all seems good then when you check after there's bits you haven't rinsed off
Sills not clean, with a quick swipe over it usually dislodges muck from under the gap. Takes a bit of rinsing or wipe with a cloth.
Perhaps the issue is I like mine to be perfect I just can't bring myself to do it half assed which is what I would feel like I was doing dashing round with a quick swipe of the glass rinsing on and a quick swipe of the sill.
OR maybe I am as fast as you Nathan perhaps it's that I don't have the compact work you have. I have next to nothing on the same street.
a fairly standard 3 bed semi(regularly cleaned) should take no longer than 10-15 mins cleaning sills,frames and doors too.if you have compact work that means around 4 or 5 an hour.
rushing around trying to cram in more houses an hour and your going to make mistakes and its not sustainable over the course of a 6 or 7 hour day.
its all about pricing too not just how fast you are.
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Aye Dazmond is an ex alchie, wasted most of his youth, has no kids and lives on his own in a rented, pokey council flat! ;D
yep thats right and slept with more women than you ve had hot dinners!........yes totally wasted! ;D ;D ;D
I think Nathan has had a few hot dinners, i've seen the pics! ;D
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Should have stuck to blowing into his pole instead of trying to clean windows with it,
here's one of his earlier video's before the Pugsley Addams look.
▶ 4:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz3Q0fGs9E4
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Should have stuck to blowing into his pole instead of trying to clean windows with it,
here's one of his earlier video's before the Pugsley Addams look.
▶ 4:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz3Q0fGs9E4
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
brilliant!
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The issues I have when trying to go faster are
Not enough scrubbing so leave the odd mark thats not removed. I see people making one pass but my windows don't seem to be like that, there's nearly always some pollen, bird muck or something that requires extra scrubbing.
Not enough rinsing, all seems good then when you check after there's bits you haven't rinsed off
Sills not clean, with a quick swipe over it usually dislodges muck from under the gap. Takes a bit of rinsing or wipe with a cloth.
Perhaps the issue is I like mine to be perfect I just can't bring myself to do it half assed which is what I would feel like I was doing dashing round with a quick swipe of the glass rinsing on and a quick swipe of the sill.
OR maybe I am as fast as you Nathan perhaps it's that I don't have the compact work you have. I have next to nothing on the same street.
a fairly standard 3 bed semi(regularly cleaned) should take no longer than 10-15 mins cleaning sills,frames and doors too.if you have compact work that means around 4 or 5 an hour.
rushing around trying to cram in more houses an hour and your going to make mistakes and its not sustainable over the course of a 6 or 7 hour day.
its all about pricing too not just how fast you are.
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Its funny, i mostly agree with you daz and as ive said many a times it depends on so many factors but on the video you refer to about 15 houses, do they look like regular 3 bed semis?? Are you honestly telling me that if you have been cleaning them for 15yrs, all open planed and no pots in way or foot traffic (as its a very quiet cul de sac) that you would struggle to clean 15 houses which are regular 4 weekly cleans and by the way thats fitting in a coffee break with a customer and not racing/running or breaking a sweat??
Its a combination of speed and price daz, not just one or the other. You could have really well priced houses but if you cant clean many in a day then its not that great!
Besides i'ld rather play bingo with beer and walk out withb £900 ☺ than have to worry what people think
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Regardless.... you will most probably do it very differently in another Two years from now, with a totally different brush that doesn't have Six jets, the learning curve for wfp is approx 5/6 years IMO.
Look at Dazmond- hot water= best thing since sliced bread- now it makes no difference whatsoever. Extreme pole= cannot work with any other pole, so much easier, now he's back to SLX because of the expense- despite earning mega bucks (apparently). Vision= brilliant! the gleam and ease make things so much better- now it makes things worse and doesn't really work at all. Vans= best van in the world is an old cheap Connect, ideal for a sole wfp'er but can earn just as much from the back of an old Golf, now you have to have a brand new connect with heated seats, aircon etc etc.... we would all be bankrupt just trying to keep up if we followed his advice!! ;D ;D
My advice- don't be so eager to arm your competitors with your knowledge. It can take years to learn and the process can be costly, keep some of it for yourself.
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I like your videos nathan, but this one seemed a bit pointless really, just some chap cleaning windows...
it was like watching paint dry :'(
Yep im gonna delete soon. I thought with having a bluetooth microphone it would pick up the speech but it hasnt done so. When i uploaded it from my phone I thought it might just be my speakers and that a laptop or whatever would play the speech louder. But I have just chrome casted it to my TV and on full pelt on sound you cant hear me which goes against what i was trying to achieve :'(
In answer to someone else comment about the 14inch brush, when im cleaning the downstairs bay and working from the side, i do say on vid (thats why this copy is pointless) that i have a 14inch brush, half the brush is cleaning the top frame with 3 jets on, and half the brush is cleaning top line of the window again with 3 jets on, which not only aids in shifting any dirt from the top frame but also on the window as well. So the idiots who say about cutting corners with speed or whatever get off your high horses and correct your stubborn way of thinking.
Would i have compact rounds and be in this job for over 15 yrs if i did a crap job splashing windows and the prices that my customers pay compared to local competition. I do wonder how some of you guys actually work, its like living in dark ages from what alot of you think. Youve been in a rut for so long that when others come along with new ideas, styles ((and what makes me laugh is that because ive not been on this forum long or on wfp long you think im a newbie)) and results you close your mind to it because in your tiny minds if youve not been able to do it in X amount of years then no one can.
Thats why people like me and others including Lee may come across as a threat perhaps.........bet your glad Lee isnt operating in your areas im guessing.
even with all your fannying about i bet i still earn a lot more than you do over the course of a year(and do less hours!) :D
i reckon your a 25 grand a year window cleaner. ;D
Daz you used to be the happy go lucky, positive chap who didn't speak negatively.
I think you need to take a break from CIU. It's dragging you down. :o
The main thing is that we all earn a living, and work how we want to work. Some like to cram a lot of work in at a decent price, others like to work at a relaxed pace but have higher prices. Others combine the two. There's no wrong way, aslong as you and your customers are happy.
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Just found my video from about 2 years ago that I did. Got me a lot of stick too!
Must be a forum thing.
;D
http://youtu.be/8GrTUs7JwfQ
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Just found my video from about 2 years ago that I did. Got me a lot of stick too!
Must be a forum thing.
;D
http://youtu.be/8GrTUs7JwfQ
That's pretty much how I work although I wouldn't do the second rinse and wouldn't keep looking at the camera. ;D
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I don't think anyone can't dispute this fella could teach us all a thing or two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efpufk5146E
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I don't think anyone can't dispute this fella could teach us all a thing or two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efpufk5146E
Hes my idol 😂😂
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Think Jonny 87's video about does it for me..... I do 8 weeklys and that 2nd rinse does work for me on occasion.... Not sure about some on here... Do you ever get on a piece of glass and find you have spent what appears to be about 2 days cleaning, scrubbing, rinsing, re-cleaning, more scrubbing and a little more rinsing?
I have been wfp since 06 and to be honest I still do not think at times I have a very clear idea of whats best....
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I like your videos nathan, but this one seemed a bit pointless really, just some chap cleaning windows...
it was like watching paint dry :'(
Yep im gonna delete soon. I thought with having a bluetooth microphone it would pick up the speech but it hasnt done so. When i uploaded it from my phone I thought it might just be my speakers and that a laptop or whatever would play the speech louder. But I have just chrome casted it to my TV and on full pelt on sound you cant hear me which goes against what i was trying to achieve :'(
In answer to someone else comment about the 14inch brush, when im cleaning the downstairs bay and working from the side, i do say on vid (thats why this copy is pointless) that i have a 14inch brush, half the brush is cleaning the top frame with 3 jets on, and half the brush is cleaning top line of the window again with 3 jets on, which not only aids in shifting any dirt from the top frame but also on the window as well. So the idiots who say about cutting corners with speed or whatever get off your high horses and correct your stubborn way of thinking.
Would i have compact rounds and be in this job for over 15 yrs if i did a crap job splashing windows and the prices that my customers pay compared to local competition. I do wonder how some of you guys actually work, its like living in dark ages from what alot of you think. Youve been in a rut for so long that when others come along with new ideas, styles ((and what makes me laugh is that because ive not been on this forum long or on wfp long you think im a newbie)) and results you close your mind to it because in your tiny minds if youve not been able to do it in X amount of years then no one can.
Thats why people like me and others including Lee may come across as a threat perhaps.........bet your glad Lee isnt operating in your areas im guessing.
even with all your fannying about i bet i still earn a lot more than you do over the course of a year(and do less hours!) :D
i reckon your a 25 grand a year window cleaner. ;D
What a stupid comment to make! CRINGE!
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The issues I have when trying to go faster are
Not enough scrubbing so leave the odd mark thats not removed. I see people making one pass but my windows don't seem to be like that, there's nearly always some pollen, bird muck or something that requires extra scrubbing.
Not enough rinsing, all seems good then when you check after there's bits you haven't rinsed off
Sills not clean, with a quick swipe over it usually dislodges muck from under the gap. Takes a bit of rinsing or wipe with a cloth.
Perhaps the issue is I like mine to be perfect I just can't bring myself to do it half assed which is what I would feel like I was doing dashing round with a quick swipe of the glass rinsing on and a quick swipe of the sill.
OR maybe I am as fast as you Nathan perhaps it's that I don't have the compact work you have. I have next to nothing on the same street.
a fairly standard 3 bed semi(regularly cleaned) should take no longer than 10-15 mins cleaning sills,frames and doors too.if you have compact work that means around 4 or 5 an hour.
rushing around trying to cram in more houses an hour and your going to make mistakes and its not sustainable over the course of a 6 or 7 hour day.
its all about pricing too not just how fast you are.
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Its funny, i mostly agree with you daz and as ive said many a times it depends on so many factors but on the video you refer to about 15 houses, do they look like regular 3 bed semis?? Are you honestly telling me that if you have been cleaning them for 15yrs, all open planed and no pots in way or foot traffic (as its a very quiet cul de sac) that you would struggle to clean 15 houses which are regular 4 weekly cleans and by the way thats fitting in a coffee break with a customer and not racing/running or breaking a sweat??
Its a combination of speed and price daz, not just one or the other. You could have really well priced houses but if you cant clean many in a day then its not that great!
Besides i'ld rather play bingo with beer and walk out withb £900 ☺ than have to worry what people think
i can easily clean 15 houses in a day but not in 2 hours!no window cleaner can (and do a good job)
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Oki doki then, i think you should bow down to me!!😂😂😂😂😂
(Joking people)
So you are seriously telling me that two windows at front upstairs and a downstairs bay window followed by maybe 3 or 4 windows (patio doors sometimes) at the rear. Walking round one house and walking down path to next house with no fences and very little gates to mess about with and very little in way of obstacles and passing cars to not slow you down that in all honestly you cannot achieve what I have and you say youve been cleaning for 20yrs!! Im shocked
Watch that video again people and see how close the houses are to each other and how small they are. Infact heres the link
https://youtu.be/1tdW3uI27Wg
I am legit worried and amazed at how many people say this is impossible and bla bla quality this and quality that.
How long would it take you to clean 15 of these houses every 4 weeks if like me you have done them for 15 yrs. If you say youve been doing it for years and it would take most of a day, then yes I think you should hang your heads in shame and dont pass judgement on me because if anybody is working wrong I can tell you it certainly aint me!!
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id clean 4 or 5 an hour of houses like them nathan including sills,frames and doors.working at a fairly brisk pace and making sure gates etc are closed etc.i couldnt cram in another 2 and a half houses in that hour without really splashing and dashing and risking a poor job being done IMO.
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thing is nathan we d had people like you on here before saying they can clean much faster than anybody else.one guy even put up a video!(i cant remember his name!)and he was literally RUNNING around the house he was working on!a complete prat! ;D ;D ;D
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''Also its a 4wkly clean so i dont clean the frames every time'' ::)roll
''Do I cut corners? I might be a little bit splash and dash compared to some on here ..'' ::)roll
Says it all really
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Think I will try to take some of the heat of you Nathan. I cleaned 34 modern houses today, ( it wasn't priorwood drive Dry Clean ;D ) a mix of detached, semi detached in 5 1/4 hours on the glass. I am sitting anxiously by my phone waiting on the customer complaints flooding in as according to most on here they can't possibly be cleaned properly.
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''Also its a 4wkly clean so i dont clean the frames every time'' ::)roll
''Do I cut corners? I might be a little bit splash and dash compared to some on here ..'' ::)roll
Says it all really
. Let me ask you a question. Do you clean regular 4 weekly work?? Cause im betting you dont!! If you did and especially in my area, not coastal or near woods, the frames are pretty dam clean. Let me ask you another question, do you know why you clean the frames on wfp??? Also did you//have you done any trad work??? On trad work i cleaned the windows and to clean the frames I would charge more!! On wfp do we clean the frames cause its easy or because its a complete package or is it to clean the dirt so it doesnt contaminate the pure water which we leave on the windows????
When you know the answer to these questions you will know why sometimes i dont get the top frames and why that is perfectly ok to do so!!
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thing is nathan we d had people like you on here before saying they can clean much faster than anybody else.one guy even put up a video!(i cant remember his name!)and he was literally RUNNING around the house he was working on!a complete prat! ;D ;D ;D
Mate your not answering the question asked!! Your answer is still based on 3 bed semis and not what ive asked you to compare it to!!
In addition did it look like i was running in betwern the windows cause if i was i would be burning of the carverys i eat 😂😂😂 but you may be onto something there!!
Also in non of my posts am i boasting of how many houses i clean. Again the reason i mentioned these figures was in relation to solar charging by mentioning how many houses ive cleaned and the size, the people in question would know of pump usage.
2nd, ages ago it was asked by somebody how many houses can you clean in a day. So again no boasting on my part.
But yes, im ranting on here because i can not believe how many beleive it cant be done and it cant be done with quality as well.
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''Also its a 4wkly clean so i dont clean the frames every time'' ::)roll
''Do I cut corners? I might be a little bit splash and dash compared to some on here ..'' ::)roll
Says it all really
Sorry mate the bottom quote aint mine!!
Whereas the above is. Let me ask you a question. Do you clean regualr 4 weekly work?? Cause im betting you dont!! If you did and especially in my area, not coastal or near woods, the frames are pretty dam clean. Let me ask you another question, do you know why you clean the frames on wfp??? Also did you//have you done any trad work??? On trad work i cleaned the windows and to clean the frames I would charge more!! On wfp do we clean the frames cause its easy or because its a complete package or is it to clean the dirt so it doesnt contaminate the pure water which we leave on the windows????
When you know the answer to these questions you will know why sometimes i dont get the top frames!!! And then you might contribute something worth saying of interest
I never said both quotes were yours , but both quotes are from people who seem to fly through work .
1. Most of my work is 4 weekly , every time I go back there is spider webs , bits of dust / debris on the window sills. So yes they need doing every clean.
2. I clean the frames / sills because of no. 1
3. TBH Iv learnt all I need to about wfp from here , I find it funny how you waffle on so much like you've nothing better to do - no wife or kids? Oh yes sorry I forgot , you seem to tell everyone about your personal life (4 biological kids/ 2 adopted - do we care?)
4. You say you clean 30 odd houses a day , get coffee from each customer and have time for pub lunches, yet you live in a council house. Do you not think to save up your money to buy a house instead of wasting it in pubs?
So much irrelevant information comes from you , what makes you think everyone wants to know how about your personal life??
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thing is nathan we d had people like you on here before saying they can clean much faster than anybody else.one guy even put up a video!(i cant remember his name!)and he was literally RUNNING around the house he was working on!a complete prat! ;D ;D ;D
Groundhog.
Otherwise known as Graham Hobday.
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thing is nathan we d had people like you on here before saying they can clean much faster than anybody else.one guy even put up a video!(i cant remember his name!)and he was literally RUNNING around the house he was working on!a complete prat! ;D ;D ;D
Groundhog.
Otherwise known as Graham Hobday.
No, it was perfect Vin. It was a case of anything you can do I can do faster! Made himself look a complete tool and ended up removing the video in a paddy!! ;D
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With all due respect Nathan, I wouldn't be encouraging any newbies to watch and learn from that video as it would be asking for trouble.
It may work well for you but for a beginner I would strongly recommend not to rinse on the glass.
If a newbie sticks a 14 inch flocked brush on the end of their pole and starts trying to rinse on the glass then they'll be losing customers as quick as they gain them.
I do appreciate you are trying to help others, which is commendable, but if I'm totally honest you often come across as cutting corners to try and get through as much as work as possible.
You can't teach speed, you can only teach technique, the speed eventually follows.
If you really want to teach newbies then slow down, show them the basics, different techniques for certain windows etc etc. Let them figure out the speed they are capable of once they know what they're doing.
If someone watches your videos to learn the game and thinks that's the industry standard and that's how they need to work from the get go, then you could have the opposite effect of what your trying to achieve and be setting them up for failure.
I agree with Chris...you hardly even scrubbed the windows...its a bad technique.
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''Also its a 4wkly clean so i dont clean the frames every time'' ::)roll
''Do I cut corners? I might be a little bit splash and dash compared to some on here ..'' ::)roll
Says it all really
Sorry mate the bottom quote aint mine!!
Whereas the above is. Let me ask you a question. Do you clean regualr 4 weekly work?? Cause im betting you dont!! If you did and especially in my area, not coastal or near woods, the frames are pretty dam clean. Let me ask you another question, do you know why you clean the frames on wfp??? Also did you//have you done any trad work??? On trad work i cleaned the windows and to clean the frames I would charge more!! On wfp do we clean the frames cause its easy or because its a complete package or is it to clean the dirt so it doesnt contaminate the pure water which we leave on the windows????
When you know the answer to these questions you will know why sometimes i dont get the top frames!!! And then you might contribute something worth saying of interest
I never said both quotes were yours , but both quotes are from people who seem to fly through work .
1. Most of my work is 4 weekly , every time I go back there is spider webs , bits of dust / debris on the window sills. So yes they need doing every clean.
2. I clean the frames / sills because of no. 1
3. TBH Iv learnt all I need to about wfp from here , I find it funny how you waffle on so much like you've nothing better to do - no wife or kids? Oh yes sorry I forgot , you seem to tell everyone about your personal life (4 biological kids/ 2 adopted - do we care?)
4. You say you clean 30 odd houses a day , get coffee from each customer and have time for pub lunches, yet you live in a council house. Do you not think to save up your money to buy a house instead of wasting it in pubs?
So much irrelevant information comes from you , what makes you think everyone wants to know how about your personal life??
Haha who said its a council house, who said i dont own a house? Other than what bits i choose to share to expand on a point is my business, same as yourself and commenta youve made about your personal life as well. Also you n others dont know my end game and heavens forbid having a pub lunchbis gonna break the bank.
What does make me laugh is how many on here boast at earnings and yet scrimp on lunches, equipment and di resin 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Everybody on here seems to talk rubbish at times, waffle at times some do nothing better than add sarcastic remarks.
But back to point, i dont question what your able to do per hour or per day. I dont know your work or how you work. If you say you clean 4wkly I take your word for it. If u say you need to clean frames due to this reason or that reason every four weeks then so be it. ( tho i may be tempted to say surely not on every frame and every house) Yet i say majority of my frames are clean and i must be bull $#@$$ing or even doing a poor job on quality. Can you not see how ridiculous these comments are!!
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''Also its a 4wkly clean so i dont clean the frames every time'' ::)roll
''Do I cut corners? I might be a little bit splash and dash compared to some on here ..'' ::)roll
Says it all really
Sorry mate the bottom quote aint mine!!
Whereas the above is. Let me ask you a question. Do you clean regualr 4 weekly work?? Cause im betting you dont!! If you did and especially in my area, not coastal or near woods, the frames are pretty dam clean. Let me ask you another question, do you know why you clean the frames on wfp??? Also did you//have you done any trad work??? On trad work i cleaned the windows and to clean the frames I would charge more!! On wfp do we clean the frames cause its easy or because its a complete package or is it to clean the dirt so it doesnt contaminate the pure water which we leave on the windows????
When you know the answer to these questions you will know why sometimes i dont get the top frames!!! And then you might contribute something worth saying of interest
I never said both quotes were yours , but both quotes are from people who seem to fly through work .
1. Most of my work is 4 weekly , every time I go back there is spider webs , bits of dust / debris on the window sills. So yes they need doing every clean.
2. I clean the frames / sills because of no. 1
3. TBH Iv learnt all I need to about wfp from here , I find it funny how you waffle on so much like you've nothing better to do - no wife or kids? Oh yes sorry I forgot , you seem to tell everyone about your personal life (4 biological kids/ 2 adopted - do we care?)
4. You say you clean 30 odd houses a day , get coffee from each customer and have time for pub lunches, yet you live in a council house. Do you not think to save up your money to buy a house instead of wasting it in pubs?
So much irrelevant information comes from you , what makes you think everyone wants to know how about your personal life??
Haha who said its a council house, who said i dont own a house? Other than what bits i choose to share to expand on a point is my business, same as yourself and commenta youve made about your personal life as well. Also you n others dont know my end game and heavens forbid having a pub lunchbis gonna break the bank.
What does make me laugh is how many on here boast at earnings and yet scrimp on lunches, equipment and di resin 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Everybody on here seems to talk rubbish at times, waffle at times some do nothing better than add sarcastic remarks.
But back to point, i dont question what your able to do per hour or per day. I dont know your work or how you work. If you say you clean 4wkly I take your word for it. If u say you need to clean frames due to this reason or that reason every four weeks then so be it. Yet i say majority of my frames are clean and i must be bull $#@$$ing or even doing a poor job on quality. Can you not see how ridiculous these comments are!!
You said you rent , you said your mate produces 500 ltrs of pure in half an hour too. It seems you've turned ciu into your own personal forum where you tell everyone about your 'ickle ones' ( really ? Ickle? That's how you speak to grown ups is it?) every thread you comment on seems to involve your personal life , too much personal information actually. I actually used to enjoy it before you joined and started waffling on day after day about your life. You don't question me because I don't brag! I come on here now to see if there's any new equipment people are using and that's about it
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It takes my water pressure and Di just over a minute to do 25 litres so 500 litres in 30 minutes is doable.
I'll be putting 200 litres in tomorrow morning so will try to remember to time it.
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It takes my water pressure and Di just over a minute to do 25 litres so 500 litres in 30 minutes is doable.
I'll be putting 200 litres in tomorrow morning so will try to remember to time it.
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who needs coronation street when you have all the drama you need on this forum. Makes for fun reading, but remind me to never post any videos or speak about my private life because clearly you lot will pounce like a pack of wolves who have been starved for days.
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''Also its a 4wkly clean so i dont clean the frames every time'' ::)roll
''Do I cut corners? I might be a little bit splash and dash compared to some on here ..'' ::)roll
Says it all really
Sorry mate the bottom quote aint mine!!
Whereas the above is. Let me ask you a question. Do you clean regualr 4 weekly work?? Cause im betting you dont!! If you did and especially in my area, not coastal or near woods, the frames are pretty dam clean. Let me ask you another question, do you know why you clean the frames on wfp??? Also did you//have you done any trad work??? On trad work i cleaned the windows and to clean the frames I would charge more!! On wfp do we clean the frames cause its easy or because its a complete package or is it to clean the dirt so it doesnt contaminate the pure water which we leave on the windows????
When you know the answer to these questions you will know why sometimes i dont get the top frames!!! And then you might contribute something worth saying of interest
I never said both quotes were yours , but both quotes are from people who seem to fly through work .
1. Most of my work is 4 weekly , every time I go back there is spider webs , bits of dust / debris on the window sills. So yes they need doing every clean.
2. I clean the frames / sills because of no. 1
3. TBH Iv learnt all I need to about wfp from here , I find it funny how you waffle on so much like you've nothing better to do - no wife or kids? Oh yes sorry I forgot , you seem to tell everyone about your personal life (4 biological kids/ 2 adopted - do we care?)
4. You say you clean 30 odd houses a day , get coffee from each customer and have time for pub lunches, yet you live in a council house. Do you not think to save up your money to buy a house instead of wasting it in pubs?
So much irrelevant information comes from you , what makes you think everyone wants to know how about your personal life??
Why so personal and unpleasant? I don't think I've seen Nathan attack anyone in that way. It's very unnecessary.
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It takes my water pressure and Di just over a minute to do 25 litres so 500 litres in 30 minutes is doable.
I'll be putting 200 litres in tomorrow morning so will try to remember to time it.
It was 500lts through an RO.
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Wow !!!! What a thread ! ;D All because he put up a vid of him cleaning he's getting reamed out , tut tut............
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''Also its a 4wkly clean so i dont clean the frames every time'' ::)roll
''Do I cut corners? I might be a little bit splash and dash compared to some on here ..'' ::)roll
Says it all really
Sorry mate the bottom quote aint mine!!
Whereas the above is. Let me ask you a question. Do you clean regualr 4 weekly work?? Cause im betting you dont!! If you did and especially in my area, not coastal or near woods, the frames are pretty dam clean. Let me ask you another question, do you know why you clean the frames on wfp??? Also did you//have you done any trad work??? On trad work i cleaned the windows and to clean the frames I would charge more!! On wfp do we clean the frames cause its easy or because its a complete package or is it to clean the dirt so it doesnt contaminate the pure water which we leave on the windows????
When you know the answer to these questions you will know why sometimes i dont get the top frames!!! And then you might contribute something worth saying of interest
I never said both quotes were yours , but both quotes are from people who seem to fly through work .
1. Most of my work is 4 weekly , every time I go back there is spider webs , bits of dust / debris on the window sills. So yes they need doing every clean.
2. I clean the frames / sills because of no. 1
3. TBH Iv learnt all I need to about wfp from here , I find it funny how you waffle on so much like you've nothing better to do - no wife or kids? Oh yes sorry I forgot , you seem to tell everyone about your personal life (4 biological kids/ 2 adopted - do we care?)
4. You say you clean 30 odd houses a day , get coffee from each customer and have time for pub lunches, yet you live in a council house. Do you not think to save up your money to buy a house instead of wasting it in pubs?
So much irrelevant information comes from you , what makes you think everyone wants to know how about your personal life??
Haha who said its a council house, who said i dont own a house? Other than what bits i choose to share to expand on a point is my business, same as yourself and commenta youve made about your personal life as well. Also you n others dont know my end game and heavens forbid having a pub lunchbis gonna break the bank.
What does make me laugh is how many on here boast at earnings and yet scrimp on lunches, equipment and di resin 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Everybody on here seems to talk rubbish at times, waffle at times some do nothing better than add sarcastic remarks.
But back to point, i dont question what your able to do per hour or per day. I dont know your work or how you work. If you say you clean 4wkly I take your word for it. If u say you need to clean frames due to this reason or that reason every four weeks then so be it. Yet i say majority of my frames are clean and i must be bull $#@$$ing or even doing a poor job on quality. Can you not see how ridiculous these comments are!!
You said you rent , you said your mate produces 500 ltrs of pure in half an hour too. It seems you've turned ciu into your own personal forum where you tell everyone about your 'ickle ones' ( really ? Ickle? That's how you speak to grown ups is it?) every thread you comment on seems to involve your personal life , too much personal information actually. I actually used to enjoy it before you joined and started waffling on day after day about your life. You don't question me because I don't brag! I come on here now to see if there's any new equipment people are using and that's about it
I like a good arguement its keeps me in good form for my ex wife........Ooops ive done it again!! 😂😂
Its funny how people attack things they dont believe can be achievable because they cant do it themselves .
Yes i believe i said i rent but does that say council estate (not that anything is wrong with that either) oh thats right its cause the ex wife has the house....doh im not good at this non waffle lark!!
Personal details, isnt it you shrek who has kids on wkends and goes on about the gym or is that someone else??
just on another point "ickle" ones is actually from an old adult tv series coined by the presenter and it kinda stuck with me. But its ironic really because of some of the childish behaviour on here, perhaps i should address ones with speech appropriate for their understanding!
But i dont mind people trying to find fault because you are proving my point to a T, and i congratulate you
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Wow !!!! What a thread ! ;D All because he put up a vid of him cleaning he's getting reamed out , tut tut............
I would say its more to do with the bragging than the video, if you going to put yourself on a pedestal better make sure the
evidence you show supports your brilliance.
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Wow !!!! What a thread ! ;D All because he put up a vid of him cleaning he's getting reamed out , tut tut............
I would say its more to do with the bragging than the video, if you going to put yourself on a pedestal better make sure the
evidence you show supports your brilliance.
Again with the quality rubbish talk.
Look if you wanna come down i will gladly show you around the house that i cleaned on the video or the 15 houses i mentioned on another one. If you find poor quality that you are whining on about which would be blatantly obvious I will do a public video of shame and apologies for trying to be helpful and how you masters are great. If you cant find fault then you do a public video which i will gladly post of you apologising, thats all.
Now does that sound like a good offer
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Wow !!!! What a thread ! ;D All because he put up a vid of him cleaning he's getting reamed out , tut tut............
I would say its more to do with the bragging than the video, if you going to put yourself on a pedestal better make sure the
evidence you show supports your brilliance.
Again with the quality rubbish talk.
Look if you wanna come down i will gladly show you around the house that i cleaned on the video or the 15 houses i mentioned on another one. If you find poor quality i will do a public video of shame and apologies for trying to be helpful and how you masters are great. If you cant find fault then you do a public video which i will gladly post of you apologising, thats all.
Now does that sound like a good offer
I didn't know there was such a thing as a Master window cleaner, I wonder how many properties you would need to clean an
hour to win that title ?
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The thing is , I came off Facebook because I was fed up of people constantly posting drivel and pictures of their dinner and just generally posting stuff about their private lives that nobody really needs to know . Iv still got a business page on there but my mrs manages it . I found ciu and liked how different it was from Facebook , then you start doing exactly the same. I'm not saying your not a nice bloke , but half the stuff you come out with really should be kept private .
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A slow meander up the drive. Is this man on a mission? It doesn't look like it ;D, oh, and you didn't clean the sill on the top left window.
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Night night and sleep tight. Normal service will resume tomorrow. In the meantime stay safe, and remember being affected in any way by this sort of nonsense is extremely rare. So from the grime watch team it's goodbye...
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Wow !!!! What a thread ! ;D All because he put up a vid of him cleaning he's getting reamed out , tut tut............
I would say its more to do with the bragging than the video, if you going to put yourself on a pedestal better make sure the
evidence you show supports your brilliance.
Again with the quality rubbish talk.
Look if you wanna come down i will gladly show you around the house that i cleaned on the video or the 15 houses i mentioned on another one. If you find poor quality that you are whining on about which would be blatantly obvious I will do a public video of shame and apologies for trying to be helpful and how you masters are great. If you cant find fault then you do a public video which i will gladly post of you apologising, thats all.
Now does that sound like a good offer
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Hi nathan thanks for the vid . I'm brand new to this and I need all the help I can get so much appreciated mate . Thank you
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Hi nathan thanks for the vid . I'm brand new to this and I need all the help I can get so much appreciated mate . Thank you
Sorry mate, it was with you in mind that i did the vid. Just bitterly disappointed that the speech volume didnt get picked up. As i was explaining what and why i was doing something a particular way etc. I did think ones may hear the volume if playing the vid on a laptop or tv for instance but i realised when I got home and tried casting it to the TV that it wasnt the case.
(Then all this bickering on here started and im not prepared to remove the vid as if I have done something wrong or the negative views are right and so i have left the vid on. But once ive sorted the microphone aspect out, i will do another vid with better sound/explanation!!)
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Wow !!!! What a thread ! ;D All because he put up a vid of him cleaning he's getting reamed out , tut tut............
I would say its more to do with the bragging than the video, if you going to put yourself on a pedestal better make sure the
evidence you show supports your brilliance.
Again with the quality rubbish talk.
Look if you wanna come down i will gladly show you around the house that i cleaned on the video or the 15 houses i mentioned on another one. If you find poor quality that you are whining on about which would be blatantly obvious I will do a public video of shame and apologies for trying to be helpful and how you masters are great. If you cant find fault then you do a public video which i will gladly post of you apologising, thats all.
Now does that sound like a good offer
I suppose I may answer as your not going to stop crying until I do. (roll eyes)
If I want to go and watch some splash and dash merchant I could do it closer to home as every town has at least one, just to be clear I didn't invent the term splash and dash as it was knocking around long before I got into this game to describe people like you, you have to wonder how a term like that would even get started if running around like a headless chicken was the right way to do things.
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That doesnt answer anything!! It just adds vinegar to the wound and trust me, that gets a negative reaction when you do.
Because of losely throwing around terminology and accusations kinda has that effect on people!! So the best way to resolve this issue is man to man and hence my challenge to come prove that my work is splash and dash, of poor quality and give evidence of your claim of me running around like an headless chicken is sustainable.
You and others make such claims on a public forum, accuse me of trying to put myself on a pedestal, that im not a man of my word and that my quality of work is questionable along with my motives!!
So yes i will bite back! My challenge still exists which you are obviously avoiding!! Prove me wrong, prove these accusatons!
Because I would love to be holding the camera filming you as you attempt to look me in the eye and apologize as you wont find outstanding, shockable evidence of poor quality results from such a splash n dash attitude nor evidence of running around like a headless chicken, which i believe you said.
Afterwards people might enjoy this forum again!! people will be free to offer help and advice to people!! To post a picture or a video in hope that it can assist someone without fear of belittling people like you and others.
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Your challenge is childish and silly, in my opinion your a poor quality cleaner who's advice well meaning or not should be treated with caution, that said I don't care enough to spend a day watching you, timing you, and then inspecting your days work.
Its not personal, my intention as with others on here is not to hurt your feelings, you should never be afraid to criticise advice if
you believe that advice to be bad and that's all anybody on here has done, put it this way your more than happy to criticise Vision users and I'm sure you would have plenty to say if one stuck a video on here claiming this and that.
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Your challenge is childish and silly, in my opinion your a poor quality cleaner who's advice well meaning or not should be treated with caution, that said I don't care enough to spend a day watching you, timing you, and then inspecting your days work.
Its not personal, my intention as with others on here is not to hurt your feelings, you should never be afraid to criticise advice if
you believe that advice to be bad and that's all anybody on here has done, put it this way your more than happy to criticise Vision users and I'm sure you would have plenty to say if one stuck a video on here claiming this and that.
Mate feelings arent hurt, takes a whole lot more than this to hurt me. However, throwing accusations about every time i make comment on whats achievable is getting tiring and so i wish to end it once and for all.
Yes i have called in question "vision" and its claims and guess what??! All one needs to do is buy it and try it and conclude the answer themselves.......its quite simple to prove one way or the other.
I dont want you to follow me all day, timing and what not. Thats not what i said, i challenge you to come and i will show you round the houses that i have cleaned, if my quality sucks then a day after theybshould be easy to spot from a mile off according to your believes. Than in my opinion you owe me an apology which will be filmed and then you make your merry way home. You dont even have to drive, you can jump on a train and i will pick you up from the main train station. It can be all done in less than half a day but it will end this tedious debate once and for all. So when i comment it will not be undermined by small minded accusations simply because people like yourself cant do what others claim is do able. So lets prove it.
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Your challenge is childish and silly, in my opinion your a poor quality cleaner who's advice well meaning or not should be treated with caution, that said I don't care enough to spend a day watching you, timing you, and then inspecting your days work.
Its not personal, my intention as with others on here is not to hurt your feelings, you should never be afraid to criticise advice if
you believe that advice to be bad and that's all anybody on here has done, put it this way your more than happy to criticise Vision users and I'm sure you would have plenty to say if one stuck a video on here claiming this and that.
Mate feelings arent hurt, takes a whole lot more than this to hurt me. However, throwing accusations about every time i make comment on whats achievable is getting tiring and so i wish to end it once and for all.
Yes i have called in question "vision" and its claims and guess what??! All one needs to do is buy it and try it and conclude the answer themselves.......its quite simple to prove one way or the other.
I dont want you to follow me all day, timing and what not. Thats not what i said, i challenge you to come and i will show you round the houses that i have cleaned, if my quality sucks then a day after theybshould be easy to spot from a mile off according to your believes. Than in my opinion you owe me an apology which will be filmed and then you make your merry way home. You dont even have to drive, you can jump on a train and i will pick you up from the main train station. It can be all done in less than half a day but it will end this tedious debate once and for all. So when i comment it will not be undermined by small minded accusations simply because people like yourself cant do what others claim is do able. So lets prove it.
Get a grip on yourself (roll eyes) showing me 15 cleaned houses doesn't prove that you cleaned them in two and a half hours it wouldn't even prove that it was you who cleaned them.
You owe the forum an apology for continuously posting nonsense.
Added, the fact you think its just a simple matter of getting a bottle of Vision and using it to prove if it works or not shows how
little you know about this business and why you actually think your a quality cleaner.
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Your challenge is childish and silly, in my opinion your a poor quality cleaner who's advice well meaning or not should be treated with caution, that said I don't care enough to spend a day watching you, timing you, and then inspecting your days work.
Its not personal, my intention as with others on here is not to hurt your feelings, you should never be afraid to criticise advice if
you believe that advice to be bad and that's all anybody on here has done, put it this way your more than happy to criticise Vision users and I'm sure you would have plenty to say if one stuck a video on here claiming this and that.
Mate feelings arent hurt, takes a whole lot more than this to hurt me. However, throwing accusations about every time i make comment on whats achievable is getting tiring and so i wish to end it once and for all.
Yes i have called in question "vision" and its claims and guess what??! All one needs to do is buy it and try it and conclude the answer themselves.......its quite simple to prove one way or the other.
I dont want you to follow me all day, timing and what not. Thats not what i said, i challenge you to come and
Get a grip on yourself (roll eyes) showing me 15 cleaned houses doesn't prove that you cleaned them in two and a half hours it wouldn't even prove that it was you who cleaned them.
You owe the forum an apology for continuously posting nonsense.
Added, the fact you think its just a simple matter of getting a bottle of Vision and using it to prove if it works or not shows how
little you know about this business and why you actually think your a quality cleaner.
Ok, since were going round in circles here i will make this my last comment.
You answer like a politician avoiding the main issue of the point.
Your issue was poor quality work!! So by showing houses i cleaned day before would show this one way or the other and dont be ridiculous and say it doesnt prove ive cleaned them. For point of being obvious......they will obviously tally with my books which i also date. If this doesnt satisfy i will clean another house infront of you.
But no, now your saying it doesnt prove i cleaned those houses in just over 2 hours!!
Which one is it,.....is it i cant work as fast as what i say or i do i do bad quality work?? And yes lookingbat my completed work would answer both in the sense that quality isnt affected and if you want prove schedule in your diary for 4wks time and come join me whilst i do them again. Lol it will only take you less than a morning and gou can even waste your time on this forum whilst you watch or have a coffee 😂
Either way it will settle this arguement!!
So let me adjust my thinking, because im clearly missing something. If i use a product that claims this or that.......how long must i use it for to see the results of those claims?? Answer is, its irrelevant!! Because again by one way or another it will work or it wont work. So please adjust my thinking as to why trying a product doesnt disprove it or should i have stated that it should be used X amount of times on X amount of varient conditions bla bla bla.....but by end of the day it will prove it one way or the other.
Again like a politician, throw the curve ball back saying it shows how little i know about the business......yep lets make this out to be a highly educated qualified business to be in and that a person needs to spend x amount of years to know it well 😂😂😂😂
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Nathan I think the best thing you can do at this point is close this thread and walk away.
Once seank is on your tail there's no shaking him off lol. Though I do agree with some of his sentiment.
Maybe just keep the future videos to electric hose reels etc.
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I actually like watching the videos and I would say the way you clean them is how you more or less should on a regular clean,I'm similar although I wouldn't go back over the sills again like you did but all in all a good quick way to clean.
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I actually like watching the videos and I would say the way you clean them is how you more or less should on a regular clean,I'm similar although I wouldn't go back over the sills again like you did but all in all a good quick way to clean.
splish....splash....give me the cash.
..and dash!!
Bloody cowboys yeeee ha ;D
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I like watching the vids here, its entertaining and informative. Obviously not to everyones taste though.
I think l could clean quicker than that and lm sure theres plenty of other people that could too, even if they wouldnt admit it in this thread as they possibly wouldnt want the stick nathan is getting.
I reckon anyone with an opinion should also post a video to back up what they are saying, for fairness if nothing else.
Im glad you put the video up nathan, granted some of the stuff you say seems questionable but all in all l think the forum needs threads like this or it gets boring sometimes.
I can work faster than that, l can also work slower than that. Horses for courses!
Would be interesting watching if everyone were to put a vid up of themselves, lm sure theres not many that wouldnt watch em.
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After watching this video and reading all the comments its no wonder why i pick up so much work up from bad wfp operators ;D
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I actually like watching the videos and I would say the way you clean them is how you more or less should on a regular clean,I'm similar although I wouldn't go back over the sills again like you did but all in all a good quick way to clean.
splish....splash....give me the cash.
..and dash!!
Bloody cowboys yeeee ha ;D
Or you could say that the real cowboys are the ones who try to turn simple window cleaning into an art form, then charge the unsuspecting customer a fortune for the unnecessary over cleaning of their property .......bandits, I'll tell ya ;D
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oooh KS Cleaning there is a new twist on this speed chesnut ;) always 2 sides to a coin....
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I actually like watching the videos and I would say the way you clean them is how you more or less should on a regular clean,I'm similar although I wouldn't go back over the sills again like you did but all in all a good quick way to clean.
splish....splash....give me the cash.
..and dash!!
Bloody cowboys yeeee ha ;D
Or you could say that the real cowboys are the ones who try to turn simple window cleaning into an art form, then charge the unsuspecting customer a fortune for the unnecessary over cleaning of their property .......bandits, I'll tell ya ;D
Or you could say the clever ones do less work for more money ;)
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I think a cleaners prices reflect his self worth and confidence in his work.
I look back at when l first started and can attest to this, the better l think lm getting-the more l feel l can charge!
Also the quality of your work is sometimes inconsequential, l have a newish customer that asked me for a quote a couple of months back. I quoted £15 and asked how much she was paying her current cleaner. £7 she answered! At first l didnt know what to say...then l replied its hard to compete with that....especialy if your paying tax etc. She said l think you may be right, the 2 fellas that clean her windows do a good job but she feels they are gypsies and whenever they call she feels very uneasy when they are around.
So she now pays me more than double for almost the same thing (l do a better job-l know this because of all the stains etc l took off on first clean) and it just comes down to the way l look and speak.
Sometimes if a jobs convenient for you and a simple task but the customer haggles you down below your price you might take the job anyway and if you do you may just"spend"a little less time and effort on that one. I dont think thats a bad thing because your still getting your hourly rate and the customers still getting value for money.
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Im a proud splash and dash cleaner..im in it for the money. Do a good first clean then every other 4 weekly clean is a doddle! I see it as cleaning clean glass so no need to take ages.
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Im a proud splash and dash cleaner..im in it for the money. Do a good first clean then every other 4 weekly clean is a doddle! I see it as cleaning clean glass so no need to take ages.
Good on ye Mick 👍
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Nathan ignore the negative comments on this thread, some of us do actually enjoy watching your videos. Keep it up :D
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Nathan said it would be nice if I put a vid up on here off my set up once I eventually get the van ready and running . Well after the comments I've seen on this threed I'm not really sure if I want to be doing that :-/
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jo5hm4n how did you get on with that R.A.M.S?
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Totally see your point Dan Marsh... I've got most of next week off to refit my van.... put another tank in, fit 2x dog cages.... a load of nice electrics including electro-magnetic locks, 4 ch wireless lock/equipment remote, led lighting, digital flow gauges, electric reel, amp/voltage meters for the batteries.... but doubt I'll post anything it just does not warrant the hassles that comes along with any form of 'show and tell' be it for self gratification of a job well done or as others have experienced here lately to actually do some good and help out others.
You can see why people in the past have gone off this forum to create their own 'spaces' to talk, chat, share ideas so they can be without the small minded pettiness that seems to plague this forum.
Only yesterday I was accused of being a 'pedo' by a fellow member yet the only post I can see that was removed was my own which contained no foul, offensive text merely a reply to an accusation that would drive any self respecting, peace-loving man to violence. Nothing wrong with a little manly banter but there will always be lines that should never be crossed but at the same time, I do appreciate the mods walk a delicate line but there you go.
Best to stick with nonsense banter, use the forum to keep up with new gear and trends and the odd helpful tip but steer clear of anything that is beyond the norm and find another hobby or interest to occupy your free time.
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Nathan said it would be nice if I put a vid up on here off my set up once I eventually get the van ready and running . Well after the comments I've seen on this threed I'm not really sure if I want to be doing that :-/
Dan you need a thick skin to be a window cleaner or in any job where you have to deal with the public, never be afraid of a bit of
criticism constructive or otherwise, I actually preferred this forum when it was a lot more critical than it is now.
The critics may not always be right but you will never improve if you surround yourself with people who are afraid to be blunt and tell you what they really think.
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Dan mate n others......there will always be ones willing to see your videos of the setups you have done, as they like you will benefit from it.
But it is also true you will get ones who love to suck on lemons and have nothing better to do than criticise. Just ignore these ones, at times i like an arguement to stand up for ones actions and principles. However, the negativity can also be a force for good as it can push your drive a little further than you thought possible. But then there are also times to just switch off to such comments.
For instance, ive put the challenge out there for ones who want to criticise and waffle on about quality to come and check my quality out. I will even pick them up and drop them back of at the train station in one piece (😂😂). Apart from that i dont care anymore about what they have to say and yes i will still improve upon the quality of the vids ie so ones can hear sound......im waiting on some parts coming and I will be doing a vid on a self build trolley system and a replacement vid of cleaning fronts of an house. So please dont be put of by some grumps on here,
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Dan mate n others......there will always be ones willing to see your videos of the setups you have done, as they like you will benefit from it.
But it is also true you will get ones who love to suck on lemons and have nothing better to do than criticise. Just ignore these ones, at times i like an arguement to stand up for ones actions and principles. However, the negativity can also be a force for good as it can push your drive a little further than you thought possible. But then there are also times to just switch off to such comments.
For instance, ive put the challenge out there for ones who want to criticise and waffle on about quality to come and check my quality out. I will even pick them up and drop them back of at the train station in one piece (😂😂). Apart from that i dont care anymore about what they have to say and yes i will still improve upon the quality of the vids ie so ones can hear sound......im waiting on some parts coming and I will be doing a vid on a self build trolley system and a replacement vid of cleaning fronts of an house. So please dont be put of by some grumps on here,
Dan a more adult reply would go something like this.
Nathan has his view on speed cleaning others have theirs, you now have multiple opinion's and advice on the subject to do with
how you please.
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Above is a classic example.
I again rest my case!
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Hmm , do you really need to justify your prices by telling people your not on unemployment benefits? What about all child benefits/ housing credit / tax credits you get? One working parent (part time / 4 hrs a day , mrs home schools the kids remember?) with 6 kids - that's a hell of a lot of benefits as I have been told from someone who works in the dwp .
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Above is a classic example.
I again rest my case!
What that your more than happy to tell others they're doing it wrong but when somebody does the same to you the whole
forum is full of nasty negative people who have nothing better to do than criticise.
Maybe you should actually read some of your own posts again before judging others.
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Hmm , do you really need to justify your prices by telling people your not on unemployment benefits? What about all child benefits/ housing credit / tax credits you get? One working parent (part time / 4 hrs a day , mrs home schools the kids remember?) with 6 kids - that's a hell of a lot of benefits as I have been told from someone who works in the dwp .
Haha i do love all this crap you come up with. I thought you didnt like all the extra info i tell, but you seem to remember bits n bobs. Or did you back read comments.....either way i love the efforts your going into, thanks for being a fan 😂😂 even if its a negative fan!!
But since you love a back story let me refresh you and give you something else to moan about.
I have a lovely ex wife, (who by the way is more nip picky than you and throws better arguements my way) who has my house and 3 kids living with her. So check that first with your friends! 2nd that means i pay maintenance as im not a crap father and let me suggest right now that you leave that point alone. Bad mouth my work all you want, but my kids thats another matter all together!
Nope sorry little white lie, my oldest son has actually moved out and has his own place.
So in my house is my mrs n 3 ickle kids.
Whats up shrek, cant you support just you n ur mrs n kids on wknd with your high quality work???!!
Again proving my point because if you cant than obviously I cant!!
Thank you for being a good sport!!
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Crap ? You wrote it on your FAQ window cleaning prices page 😂😂
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Hmm , do you really need to justify your prices by telling people your not on unemployment benefits? What about all child benefits/ housing credit / tax credits you get? One working parent (part time / 4 hrs a day , mrs home schools the kids remember?) with 6 kids - that's a hell of a lot of benefits as I have been told from someone who works in the dwp .
Haha i do love all this crap you come up with. I thought you didnt like all the extra info i tell, but you seem to remember bits n bobs. Or did you back read comments.....either way i love the efforts your going into, thanks for being a fan 😂😂 even if its a negative fan!!
But since you love a back story let me refresh you and give you something else to moan about.
I have a lovely ex wife, (who by the way is more nip picky than you and throws better arguements my way) who has my house and 3 kids living with her. So check that first with your friends! 2nd that means i pay maintenance as im not a crap father and let me suggest right now that you leave that point alone. Bad mouth my work all you want, but my kids thats another matter all together!
Nope sorry little white lie, my oldest son has actually moved out and has his own place.
So in my house is my mrs n 3 ickle kids.
Whats up shrek, cant you support just you n ur mrs n kids on wknd with your high quality work???!!
Again proving my point because if you cant than obviously I cant!!
Thank you for being a good sport!!
Can you show me where Iv bad mouthed your work and your kids please?
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Crap ? You wrote it on your FAQ window cleaning prices page 😂😂
Do i have to spell it out to your. All the crap of your claim of me claiming the list of benefits you highlighted.
In relationship to your second post, my comment was as if to say, dont! Before you or anyone else does as these threads/posts have gone to all sorts of tangents already
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Crap ? You wrote it on your FAQ window cleaning prices page 😂😂
Do i have to spell it out to your. All the crap of your claim of me claiming the list of benefits you highlighted.
In relationship to your second post, my comment was as if to say, dont! Before you or anyone else does as these threads/posts have gone to all sorts of tangents already
Why don't you just lock the thread then ? At the end of the day , all Iv been saying is that you post too much personal information- on here and your website. I don't bad mouth anyone's kids and never would.
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Hmm , do you really need to justify your prices by telling people your not on unemployment benefits? What about all child benefits/ housing credit / tax credits you get? One working parent (part time / 4 hrs a day , mrs home schools the kids remember?) with 6 kids - that's a hell of a lot of benefits as I have been told from someone who works in the dwp .
Crap ? You wrote it on your FAQ window cleaning prices page 😂😂
Do i have to spell it out to your. All the crap of your claim of me claiming the list of benefits you highlighted.
In relationship to your second post, my comment was as if to say, dont! Before you or anyone else does as these threads/posts have gone to all sorts of tangents already
Why don't you just lock the thread then ? At the end of the day , all Iv been saying is that you post too much personal information- on here and your website. I don't bad mouth anyone's kids and never would.
These two posts dont seem to tally, if all your saying is im posting too much personal info.
Why dont i lock down the thread? I am thick skinned and it takes much much more to actually upset me. I bite too easily, but ones do have freedom of speech and are entitled to their opinions, as i am to defend myself. So im not closing it down as if im upset by comments or that ones are right about the quality.
People can read // see and can come to their own conclusions about peoples comments or attitude or work ethics.
Also this thread did die down till I tried to encourage ones still to post pics or vids and not to be put of by peoples attitudes on here. Somehow that sparked off the need for ones to relight the ambers
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Hmm , do you really need to justify your prices by telling people your not on unemployment benefits? What about all child benefits/ housing credit / tax credits you get? One working parent (part time / 4 hrs a day , mrs home schools the kids remember?) with 6 kids - that's a hell of a lot of benefits as I have been told from someone who works in the dwp .
Crap ? You wrote it on your FAQ window cleaning prices page 😂😂
Do i have to spell it out to your. All the crap of your claim of me claiming the list of benefits you highlighted.
In relationship to your second post, my comment was as if to say, dont! Before you or anyone else does as these threads/posts have gone to all sorts of tangents already
Why don't you just lock the thread then ? At the end of the day , all Iv been saying is that you post too much personal information- on here and your website. I don't bad mouth anyone's kids and never would.
These two posts dont seem to tally, if all your saying is im posting too much personal info.
Why dont i lock down the thread? I am thick skinned and it takes much much more to actually upset me. I bite too easily, but ones do have freedom of speech and are entitled to their opinions, as i am to defend myself. So im not closing it down as if im upset by comments or that ones are right about the quality.
People can read // see and can come to their own conclusions about peoples comments or attitude or work ethics.
Also this thread did die down till I tried to encourage ones still to post pics or vids and not to be put of by peoples attitudes on here. Somehow that sparked off the need for ones to relight the ambers
Ok too much personal info and too much irrelevant waffle. Yes it died down until you started it up again ::)roll
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Totally see your point Dan Marsh... I've got most of next week off to refit my van.... put another tank in, fit 2x dog cages.... a load of nice electrics including electro-magnetic locks, 4 ch wireless lock/equipment remote, led lighting, digital flow gauges, electric reel, amp/voltage meters for the batteries.... but doubt I'll post anything it just does not warrant the hassles that comes along with any form of 'show and tell' be it for self gratification of a job well done or as others have experienced here lately to actually do some good and help out others.
You can see why people in the past have gone off this forum to create their own 'spaces' to talk, chat, share ideas so they can be without the small minded pettiness that seems to plague this forum.
Only yesterday I was accused of being a 'pedo' by a fellow member yet the only post I can see that was removed was my own which contained no foul, offensive text merely a reply to an accusation that would drive any self respecting, peace-loving man to violence. Nothing wrong with a little manly banter but there will always be lines that should never be crossed but at the same time, I do appreciate the mods walk a delicate line but there you go.
Best to stick with nonsense banter, use the forum to keep up with new gear and trends and the odd helpful tip but steer clear of anything that is beyond the norm and find another hobby or interest to occupy your free time.
Mod note: Err .. if you can tell me where this post/these posts is/are then I'll remove it. I thought I had got all the offending posts, locked the thread and warned that if there was a repeat then heads would roll. If I've missed another one I apologise.
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jo5hm4n how did you get on with that R.A.M.S?
Hi Slacky,
Great thanks i used your formatting and basic templating obviously changing the wording to suit the use of my own business. Sent the RAMS over as a "draft" and it got accepted with no queries so all is good!
Thanks again for that, nice to know that there are some genuine people on this forum willing to help others.
:D :D :D
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jo5hm4n how did you get on with that R.A.M.S?
Hi Slacky,
Great thanks i used your formatting and basic templating obviously changing the wording to suit the use of my own business. Sent the RAMS over as a "draft" and it got accepted with no queries so all is good!
Thanks again for that, nice to know that there are some genuine people on this forum willing to help others.
:D :D :D
There's an even better forum for advice. However the entertainment from the squabbling school girls is priceless on here. Much better than the telly...
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jo5hm4n how did you get on with that R.A.M.S?
Hi Slacky,
Great thanks i used your formatting and basic templating obviously changing the wording to suit the use of my own business. Sent the RAMS over as a "draft" and it got accepted with no queries so all is good!
Thanks again for that, nice to know that there are some genuine people on this forum willing to help others.
:D :D :D
Great news. You're welcome.