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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Tosh on May 10, 2017, 04:52:36 pm
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Had a new lad start today. After my last disaster with a druggie/alkie who although he had 25 years window cleaning experience was a total tw@t I figured Id try a newbie.
So, after a bit of searching, not much to be honest, I had a young lad start this morning. Seems reasonable, steady Id say. Quiet, gets on with whatever needs doing.
Im thinking as things are today that its newbies rather than older people is the way to go. I may be proved wrong but it was interesting working with him today.
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How old was he?
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In my experience it takes a couple of months to find out what they are really like...
Andy
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It's far from stress free, but so far out of the three I've employed things have been on the whole ok. There's always an issue or two irritating me but I think that's the nature. Even the one we talked about is working out pretty well. My opinion is that if you employ full time, with a proper contract and you pay a good rate you attract the right sort. It's a pretty ok job really and it's not a long day.
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As said it takes time to get to know them I would say one of the main things is that you get on with them and that they listen to what you tell them,someone that has got bills is the only way forward imo if you get someone young that just wants to spend his money over the weekend is a waste of time. If you can get someone under 30 that will come in on time 20-21 days in a month you are doing very well I would look after them. I had 1 bloke start with me and after 2 and a bit hours came out with well how hard can it be this job it's only cleaning windows,I turned the van round and dropped him back at his house he didn't know where we were going until we pullled up outside his house.
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the younger the better . i wont employ anyone over 30 after having several old lags waste my time
i always ask over the phone what is your weight and height . if they say 6ft tall and when you see them theyre 5ft6 you need to tell them up front you lied to me boy
anybody who is a liar is best avoided
as a liar is also guaranteed to be a lazy type .
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Had a new one start last week. Works harder than me and does a better job. Time will tell though....
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when i employ i wnt someone who will bust a gut for a pitance so i can take it easy. thats my criteria
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I tried a young lad, must be over ten years ago; he was a wet blanket. Seriously. One morning he was crying and I asked what was up. He told me his grandad had died. I was like "Why didn't you say? Look, pack up, get in the van, I'll take you home and you can grieve with your family".
So on the drive home I asked, "So when did your granda die?"
He says "A year ago today!"
It was that moment when I thought to myself, "You're sacked!"
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when i employ i wnt someone who will bust a gut for a pitance so i can take it easy. thats my criteria
one of solar steves subbies may fit that criteria :-X
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when i employ i wnt someone who will bust a gut for a pitance so i can take it easy. thats my criteria
one of solar steves subbies may fit that criteria :-X
>:( that's not nice to say about so low steve
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How old was he?
18
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Anyone under the age of 30ish is a waste unless your very lucky,the main thing I want to know is do you have bills to pay so you need to get your arse out of bed in the morning.
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Maybe you've had poor experiences relating to employees and motivating them so need to rely external influences to achieve what would otherwise be part of an employers remit.
Using your initiative isn't just an employee thing.
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Yeah I've heard that explanation before it's all my fault I'm non motivating all people under the age of 25-30 are fantastic,but let's get back to reality for a minute. Most of em have there phones welded to there hand say nothing have no interest in anything apart from is there any chance I can
finish a earlier today I may have to pick the kids up blah blah crap,if they don't have bills to pay I'm not interested.
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Yeah I've heard that explanation before it's all my fault I'm non motivating all people under the age of 25-30 are fantastic,but let's get back to reality for a minute. Most of em have there phones welded to there hand say nothing have no interest in anything apart from is there any chance I can
finish a earlier today I may have to pick the kids up blah blah crap,if they don't have bills to pay I'm not interested.
What did you pay them and did you employ full time with a proper contract?
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It's window cleaning there's very little you can do to motivated except from tell them once they know where they are going they can earn more money and be on there own etc,90% of em are idiots and that's the truth.
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It's window cleaning there's very little you can do to motivated except from tell them once they know where they are going they can earn more money and be on there own etc,90% of em are idiots and that's the truth.
You're living proof! ;D
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Yeah I am I've had em all the best person you'll get will be someone that's taken early retirment and knows what work is,most people after kids almost straight out of school are looking for cheap labour like I was 😂. Say they are 20-25 they've got a different mind set I did at that age your cleaning windows and your thinking this is not what I want to be doing in 20 years time I've been there,then all of a sudden mortgage and everything that comes with it turns up and all your interested in is i need money. If your living at home paying 40-50 quid a week rolling over and staying in bed not the end of the world for you,if you've got a 20 year old you think is gonna be with you for years the conversation won't be riveting 😂.
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It's window cleaning there's very little you can do to motivated except from tell them
You're right, it is your fault.
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Say they are 20-25 they've got a different mind set I did at that age
Mistake number one. Second guessing what people think and thinking they've all got the same attitude as you. Guaranteed 100% to fail.
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Blimey failing ain't all that bad then after all,it's not a personal experience maybe if i had a 20 year old that had been brainwashed all his young life I might have done better eh.
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Second guessing people gets you on in life if you have a knack of sussing
someone out 5 minutes after meeting them,if you get a 20 year old stay with you for years and years fair play to you all I'm saying is he's either not the sharpest tool or he's led a sheltered life. Window cleaning more often than not is not something you start it's handed down then expanded on over the years and that's in the main the way it is,you don't get many 20 year olds these days 4 year earlier say to there teacher when I leave school Miss I'm gonna be a window cleaner. That's why most 20 year olds who do the job have a story or baggage.
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Dont know about that now a days.
Yes we tell people its hard now to start up in out field of work, to build up a round and make it work to pay the bills etc etc.
Yet more and more are coming into this field of work on what they perceive to be easy using a wfp system. They see or hear stories of how much we charge per house and how that equates per hour. It wouldnt suprise me at all if ones dont wish to finish school and start to build their empire up.
A lad in a family whos windows ive cleaned for 15 yrs looked in back of van and saw all equipment and his first comments were "all this for just cleaning windows"
Followed by you charge my dad x amount and theres n theres n theres x amount. You must be on a good per hour rate!!
Hes coming upto leaving school this year and asked if i need an apprentice
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Makes no difference in reality to pay for household bills run a vehicle etc going out and knocking doors will not get you a business in a short time,yes there are more people it seems cleaning windows these days but unless you see there books you have no idea if there earning money from it. Hell of a lot of work out there I agree,also a lot of crap work nobody wants to clean out there too. If your prepared to take on any job you may get work that doesn't mean you'll have business or even be doing the job in 2 years time.
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Its more to do with the person and their attitude than age...
my best guys are in their late twenties ( started in their early twenties ) and been great - they clean more and longer hours than i ever could do. just taken on an apprentice who has a great attitude to work. and i have a chap who's now 61, never misses a day, never late, never sick.
we have had to throw some back into the great unwashed both oldies and noobies in life rich tapestry, usually know within 4 weeks if they are a keeper or not
look luck with him Matt
Darran
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That's why most 20 year olds who do the job have a story or baggage.
Or want a job.
Then its the employers business to motivate them. To get the best out of them. Of course you can assume they’re going to be brilliant without teaching, showing or encouraging them, in with case you will undoubtedly waste your time.
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Had a new lad start today. After my last disaster with a druggie/alkie who although he had 25 years window cleaning experience was a total tw@t I figured Id try a newbie.
So, after a bit of searching, not much to be honest, I had a young lad start this morning. Seems reasonable, steady Id say. Quiet, gets on with whatever needs doing.
Im thinking as things are today that its newbies rather than older people is the way to go. I may be proved wrong but it was interesting working with him today.
Blatant self-promotion. A classic 'look at me expanding, doing my bit for society' post. Disgraceful.
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You get knocked on here so much you forget who are the ones that knock you. You’ve just thrown a punch at the wrong individual.
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You get knocked on here so much you forget who are the ones that knock you. You’ve just thrown a punch at the wrong individual.
;D Surely you can see the communal irony in my post. ;D
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It was a case of mistaken identity from where I was sat. The Australian sun has had its effect quite obviously.
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What's the number 1 thing on a 20 year olds mind it's not work in most cases and it's certainly not window cleaning,most people that ask me for a job that age see me home a lot of the time before 5 o'clock that's the attraction to them. I get all the comments we've all heard have you got any jobs I'd like to work your hours,they all come from that age group the new generation are not work minded there's to many dreamers thinking they can all earn living sitting in front of a computer game,imo if they don't have bills to pay they will never be reliable why would they i was the same I've lost count how many days I turned over and farted and went back to bed,bit more tricky doing that when you've got things to pay for.
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What's the number 1 thing on a 20 year olds mind
How to shag his mate's mum.
If work was the number one thing on any 20-year-old mind he wouldn't be working PAYE he'd be setting up his own business.
You do have some strange expectations.
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It's good to see keen young people actually applying for jobs.....it should be encouraged. In my home town, the superb, 50 years trading pastie shop has had to start closing on Saturdays because (after 3 advertising attempts) they can't find a single person willing to start work at 6am on Saturdays. There are 2000 unemployed people in town.
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What's the number 1 thing on a 20 year olds mind it's not work in most cases and it's certainly not window cleaning,most people that ask me for a job that age see me home a lot of the time before 5 o'clock that's the attraction to them. I get all the comments we've all heard have you got any jobs I'd like to work your hours,they all come from that age group the new generation are not work minded there's to many dreamers thinking they can all earn living sitting in front of a computer game,imo if they don't have bills to pay they will never be reliable why would they i was the same I've lost count how many days I turned over and farted and went back to bed,bit more tricky doing that when you've got things to pay for.
At 18 I was hungry for money and would have worked 24/7 to get it even though I had no bills to pay, now in my late
50's there's nothing I like more than slacking off because even though I still have bills to pay it doesn't take a lot of graft to cover them.
Everybody's different.
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What's the number 1 thing on a 20 year olds mind it's not work in most cases and it's certainly not window cleaning,most people that ask me for a job that age see me home a lot of the time before 5 o'clock that's the attraction to them. I get all the comments we've all heard have you got any jobs I'd like to work your hours,they all come from that age group the new generation are not work minded there's to many dreamers thinking they can all earn living sitting in front of a computer game,imo if they don't have bills to pay they will never be reliable why would they i was the same I've lost count how many days I turned over and farted and went back to bed,bit more tricky doing that when you've got things to pay for.
At 18 I was hungry for money and would have worked 24/7 to get it even though I had no bills to pay, now in my late
50's there's nothing I like more than slacking off because even though I still have bills to pay it doesn't take a lot of graft to cover them.
Everybody's different.
Same here although I aint a super old codger like you, yet.
From 18 - 30 I was flat out working all the time, I just don't have that level of energy nowadays.
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You are a different generation you have a work ethic maybe your mum and dad worked hard,it rubs off.
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What's the number 1 thing on a 20 year olds mind
How to shag his mate's mum. Yeah I remember that she used to sit at the top of the stairs in her dressing gown on purpose knocking her knees,I've still got that one in the W*** bank lol 😂
If work was the number one thing on any 20-year-old mind he wouldn't be working PAYE he'd be setting up his own business.
You do have some strange expectations.
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It's good to see keen young people actually applying for jobs.....it should be encouraged. In my home town, the superb, 50 years trading pastie shop has had to start closing on Saturdays because (after 3 advertising attempts) they can't find a single person willing to start work at 6am on Saturdays. There are 2000 unemployed people in town.
chances are the guvnors a real shoite to work for -
mental cruelty ?
and word travels fast amongst youngsters more than most