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Title: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: chris turner on March 31, 2017, 09:47:43 am
For anyone who hasn't tried it yet and feel ubik and virasol are bit rubbish, here's a quick review..

In terms of dilution rates and cleaning power,  no nonsense beats both of the above easily.
You only need 5 cap fulls per 20 litres of water, although i add alot more for extra oomph.
It's a clear liquid so don't have to worry about stains and it's very high foaming, comparable with cif, so you get great coverage.
I cleaned a really really dirty, green, black stained, moss covered, bird poop target of a conservatory roof a couple of days ago. I know ubik/virasol would of achieved maybe just about acceptable results with alot of elbow grease, but would of struggled on the heavier soiling. Normally i get out the cif for these bits.
No nonsense destroyed everything.
I sprayed it on, left for 5 mins, then scrubbed with a low water flow. Everything just melted off effortlessly, even most of the black stains which ubik/virasol really struggle with.
Definitely made the job far easier.

If you like the high foaming action and cleaning power of cif but want the coverage and benefit of using in a backpack sprayer like virasol/ubik, then no nonsense is a no brainer.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: jo5hm4n on March 31, 2017, 10:16:15 am
Good Post, might give this a go soon.  got a conny roof to clean which is really green and black, probably will be the worst i have had to clean!

How much was it?

Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: sunshine windows on March 31, 2017, 11:15:56 am
Good post Chris, nice to have a positive review of a product that we can all benefit from.

I'll go and grab myself some, as I'm doing loads of these types of jobs of late and find TFR a bit crap if I'm honest.

Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on March 31, 2017, 11:33:22 am
Lots of + reviews on screw fix  website looks good buy at the price
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: nathankaye on March 31, 2017, 11:45:30 am
Its a good shout!!
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: chris turner on March 31, 2017, 12:16:09 pm
It's cheap as chips, 2 × 5 litres for less then £15.
At the stated dilution rates it will last ages too.
I just pour loads into my backpack though so will get through it pretty quick.
Iv also made up a premixed 25 litre drum so i have it ready for when needed.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: p1w1 on March 31, 2017, 01:11:51 pm
my mate used to use this stuff all the time for cons roof cleaning, said it was good.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: mufcglen on March 31, 2017, 01:28:43 pm
i used that upvc max a guy is selling on the facebook pages and found it left a nice shine the other day on a con roof i cleaned, ive tried various tfr's and dont find them much better than just soaking the roof for 5 mins with water!
might give this screwfix stuff a go too though, thanks for that
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Smurf on March 31, 2017, 03:29:03 pm
For anyone who hasn't tried it yet and feel ubik and virasol are bit rubbish, here's a quick review..

In terms of dilution rates and cleaning power,  no nonsense beats both of the above easily.
You only need 5 cap fulls per 20 litres of water, although i add alot more for extra oomph.
It's a clear liquid so don't have to worry about stains and it's very high foaming, comparable with cif, so you get great coverage.
I cleaned a really really dirty, green, black stained, moss covered, bird poop target of a conservatory roof a couple of days ago. I know ubik/virasol would of achieved maybe just about acceptable results with alot of elbow grease, but would of struggled on the heavier soiling. Normally i get out the cif for these bits.
No nonsense destroyed everything.
I sprayed it on, left for 5 mins, then scrubbed with a low water flow. Everything just melted off effortlessly, even most of the black stains which ubik/virasol really struggle with.
Definitely made the job far easier.

If you like the high foaming action and cleaning power of cif but want the coverage and benefit of using in a backpack sprayer like virasol/ubik, then no nonsense is a no brainer.

Be using it off/on for a while now Chris.

Warning!  whatever you do chaps don't try mixing it with hypo... Oops! GAS GAS GAS lol
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 31, 2017, 04:04:04 pm
I'm going to Screwfix tomorrow anyway so i will grab some of this while I'm there :)
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: robbo333 on March 31, 2017, 04:23:13 pm
Thanks Chris, good review, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: dazmond on March 31, 2017, 06:40:55 pm
i think ill try some once ive used the rest of this virosol up!ive still got 7 or 8 litres left out of 20L i bought a few years ago! ;D

cheers chris it sounds like good stuff.i use cif too and find that really good on stubborn dirt on  plastics/polycarbon roofs etc.

Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Dave Willis on March 31, 2017, 08:04:48 pm
ph of 12 - strong stuff!
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: the king on March 31, 2017, 09:06:59 pm
ive got loads in my van
scrue fix degreaser   3fd
ubik2000 joint    4th
virosol joint    4th
blade right tfr     2nd
scott dunning tfr20    1st
this is the how i rate them all to be honist
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 31, 2017, 09:10:37 pm
ive got loads in my van
scrue fix degreaser   3fd
ubik2000 joint    4th
virosol joint    4th
blade right tfr     2nd
scott dunning tfr20    1st
this is the how i rate them all to be honist
What's Scott dunning tfr20 King? Please enlighten me!
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: jk999 on March 31, 2017, 09:36:06 pm
I have read every review and most of them are people using it to clean engine s or chains how do you even know it's safe on plastics
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: the king on March 31, 2017, 09:56:46 pm
 its clear so wont stain upvc you only need 200mill to 5 leters of water just check out the vids on utube or try for your self it realy is the best tfr out there
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: the king on March 31, 2017, 09:58:59 pm
http://ukupvccleaningsupplies.co.uk/product/caustic-super-high-strentgh-tfr/
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Dave Willis on March 31, 2017, 10:12:18 pm
Jesus, who wrote that advert?
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: lal on March 31, 2017, 11:58:14 pm
 Thanks Chris for your review, I've ordered some today off their website, should get in a couple of days,
 I've got a couple of G/F/S jobs next week, see how i get on with it.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Marc Stock on April 01, 2017, 08:30:03 am
Looks good that. I'll have a look into it.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: chris turner on April 01, 2017, 08:47:55 am
ph of 12 - strong stuff!

It's a similar alkaline level to bleach. Perhaps that's why it's so good at cleaning white plastics.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Marc Stock on April 01, 2017, 08:50:40 am
Can't bleach turn upvc pink?
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: David Deer on April 03, 2017, 10:04:31 am
http://ukupvccleaningsupplies.co.uk/product/caustic-super-high-strentgh-tfr/
The about us page is almost as well worded (know what I mean govnr)
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: the king on April 04, 2017, 05:48:56 am
ive sprayed on in upvc and its dryed then ive wfp'd off no pink and no staining its safe to use unlike ubik virosol ect
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Smurf on April 04, 2017, 09:10:38 am
I would not use caustic tfr myself king on custards homes but each to their own I suppose.
However you could try some bleach instead as you may find it works much better. YEHAA! lol
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: C & S on April 12, 2017, 06:44:10 pm
Screwfix degreaser is the nuts. All I use now.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: robbo333 on April 12, 2017, 08:16:45 pm
Used it first time on fsg clean, last weekend. Very good indeed.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: duncan h on April 14, 2017, 06:53:01 pm
Everyone compares various TFR's to Virosol, yet not Virosols version on TFR which is much stronger
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: CleanClear on April 14, 2017, 08:43:34 pm
I have read every review and most of them are people using it to clean engine s or chains how do you even know it's safe on plastics

I don't wanna poo poo the guys review but thats my thought too.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Dave Willis on April 14, 2017, 08:45:11 pm
When I started on here I was always told to use NON CAUSTIC yet someone is selling stuff with caustic written all over it. Confused.com
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: andyM on May 24, 2017, 09:11:55 pm
I've used the Screwfix stuff on a few conny roofs now and seems pretty good.

One from today:
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495656527_Dirty roof.jpg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495656540_Clean roof.jpg)
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: lal on May 24, 2017, 09:35:34 pm
I've used the Screwfix stuff on a few conny roofs now and seems pretty good.

One from today:
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495656527_Dirty roof.jpg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495656540_Clean roof.jpg)

Fine job done there Andy
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Shrek on May 24, 2017, 09:44:20 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495658604_IMG_0963.JPG)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495658604_IMG_0964.JPG)


Just pure  8)
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: chris turner on May 24, 2017, 09:59:55 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495658604_IMG_0963.JPG)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495658604_IMG_0964.JPG)


Just pure  8)

Nice job shrek, though that roof wasn't particularly dirty. Once you brush away the bits of moss then pure would be fine for the rest.
Unlike the roof andyM cleaned, that looked a pig of a job. Would take forever with pure alone.

Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: chris turner on May 24, 2017, 10:04:28 pm
I've used the Screwfix stuff on a few conny roofs now and seems pretty good.

One from today:
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495656527_Dirty roof.jpg)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495656540_Clean roof.jpg)

What dilution rate are using Andy?
I find 1 litre of screwfix into a full backpack works best.
Also it works best applying it with a brush with fan jets, give the roof a quick go over, gently agitating the dirt whilst letting the chemical soak in.
Leave for 5 mins then wash with pure.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Shrek on May 24, 2017, 10:04:33 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495659844_IMG_1072.JPG)(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1495659844_IMG_1073.JPG)

Just pure  8)
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Shrek on May 24, 2017, 10:09:39 pm
I'm sure chemicals do work , I'm just stingy and don't like buying stuff
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: nathankaye on May 24, 2017, 10:59:53 pm
Done some test patches today with just hot pure and was really impressed.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: andyM on May 25, 2017, 05:19:30 am
What dilution rate are using Andy?
I find 1 litre of screwfix into a full backpack works best.
Also it works best applying it with a brush with fan jets, give the roof a quick go over, gently agitating the dirt whilst letting the chemical soak in.
Leave for 5 mins then wash with pure.

The ratio was probably about 1:5 (20% degreaser to 80% water) just using a manual pump up sprayer.
It was Hot yesterday so I didn't leave it to dwell for more than a minute or two before scrubbing and washing off, one panel at a time.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: andyM on May 25, 2017, 05:23:27 am
I'm sure chemicals do work , I'm just stingy and don't like buying stuff

Most of the time I just use pure too.
But I reckon this degreaser does help to make the job quicker.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Tosh on May 25, 2017, 08:01:54 am
I'm sure chemicals do work , I'm just stingy and don't like buying stuff


The chemicals required to do a conservatory roof would cost less than £1.00, and save you lots of water, labour time and produce a better and more satisfactory result.


Why be stingy?
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: jonboywalton75 on May 25, 2017, 08:02:50 am
That's the point, if you spend a little to make the job quicker.
Time IS money!!!
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Shrek on May 25, 2017, 08:07:37 am
I'm sure chemicals do work , I'm just stingy and don't like buying stuff


The chemicals required to do a conservatory roof would cost less than £1.00, and save you lots of water, labour time and produce a better and more satisfactory result.


Why be stingy?

I'm not quite sure they produce a better result, however I'm sure they would save time
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Shrek on May 25, 2017, 08:08:18 am
That's the point, if you spend a little to make the job quicker.
Time IS money!!!

You're right there
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Tosh on May 25, 2017, 08:48:30 am
This gear has a pH of 12.0. Virosol has a pH of 12.8 (I think), I guess that means this gear needs to be used with equal caution as Virosol in that case? Avoiding self-cleaning glass and aluminium frames with it?
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: chris turner on May 25, 2017, 08:57:33 am
This gear has a pH of 12.0. Virosol has a pH of 12.8 (I think), I guess that means this gear needs to be used with equal caution as Virosol in that case? Avoiding self-cleaning glass and aluminium frames with it?

Iv cleaned 2 conservatories with self cleaning glass and had no problems with no nonsense.
No nonsense is a clear liquid so doesn't stain and rinses off very easily.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Tosh on May 25, 2017, 09:13:37 am
Ive got a conservatory that got buggered last time I used Virosol on its roof, I might do a test patch on it with the No Nonsense stuff.

I used Virosol on some ally frames last week, its had to go to my insurance company  :-\ :-\ 


(http://res.cloudinary.com/dbe1coaue/image/upload/a_0/v1495700161/streak.jpg)

Always read the label.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: NWH on May 25, 2017, 04:58:15 pm
I got 15 litres of it and found it no better than fairy liquid it says it removes oil from brick also,it doesn't. I can't remember where I saw it but I saw a demo of someone who sprayed some chemical on gutters facias etc waited 10 minutes and when water made contact with it the green mildew and dirt literally fell off the plastic.
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Tosh on May 25, 2017, 05:09:44 pm
I got 15 litres of it and found it no better than fairy liquid it says it removes oil from brick also,it doesn't. I can't remember where I saw it but I saw a demo of someone who sprayed some chemical on gutters facias etc waited 10 minutes and when water made contact with it the green mildew and dirt literally fell off the plastic.

 I've seen that video before, I don't know what product it was they were using maybe it was some sort of soft wash   
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: Mike Halliday on May 25, 2017, 07:08:21 pm
I tried and found it no better than the multitude of other stuff I've tried.

I think the market for cleaning organic matter off UPVC  is (in the whole cleaning world) very small,  so no research has been done on the subject to create a cleaner for the job.

If I was the head of a large multinational chemical company I would tell my army of chemist to look at chemicals that damage or destroy organic matter.......  maybe nuclear based or a biohazard pathogen
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: MNWC on May 26, 2017, 07:09:03 am
STOP BUYING THE STUFF  Theyve now put it up to £8.99  >:( >:(
http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-heavy-duty-degreaser-5ltr/88668 (http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-heavy-duty-degreaser-5ltr/88668)
Title: Re: Screwfix no nonsense degreaser
Post by: the king on May 28, 2017, 09:25:45 am
how meny of you tryed scotts tfr20 ? ivbe tryed all the above and they all need a 5 minit + dwell time to be affetive  were tfr20 works in seconds spray on then give a quick scrub job done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBtDxpWVsgE