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Title: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 27, 2017, 02:14:07 pm
Hi guys.

I'm looking to buy two new fixed hosereels to replace my 'petal' style ones & all their problems.

I have mine fixed in the back of the van and we use cold water.

I think I've narrowed it down to a choice of these two:

http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/hose-hose-reels/hose-reels/pure-freedom-professional-metal-hose-reel.html

or

http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/hose-reels/professional-hot-water-hose-reels/460-fixed-hose-reel-130m.html

What do you guys think? Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel
Post by: Shrek on February 27, 2017, 03:04:46 pm
Iv got the pure freedom reel , its solid and because I use pipe clips screwed into the ply floor , I can take it out in seconds if I need more space for whatever else , I bought it autumn last year and it's started to squeak when reeling in , think it just needs some wd40 .
I would buy another though
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel
Post by: tonycarr on February 27, 2017, 06:15:51 pm
i have 2 reels set up the petal type and also a claber and i personally  think the claber is better, for less than 50 quid you cant go wrong, dont let the price put you off, it really is excellent quality, runs really smooth and easily holds 100mtrs ive had it around a year now and its still smooth pulling out and reeling in. iv actually got another claber ready to go in the van as i think the bearings might be going on the wifes petal style reel

tony

 
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel
Post by: dazmond on February 27, 2017, 06:20:10 pm
cox reel.a lot more expensive but robust as hell.mine looks like it will last a lifetime! ;D
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel
Post by: p1w1 on February 27, 2017, 06:24:16 pm
power up hd reel ..
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 27, 2017, 06:25:22 pm
I gotta but two though Daz as we have a two man setup so I think that's pushing the boat out a bit too far!
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 27, 2017, 08:40:56 pm
I've used cheapo Clabers from gardiners with no problems. They have dish type sides.

Buy a replacement every three years or so although I could get new "middles" but they're as cheap as chips.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel
Post by: Phil J on February 27, 2017, 08:46:29 pm
Go for the Pure Freedom double stacked reel it will save you loads of time and free up room in your van as opposed to 2 side by side.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel
Post by: Simon Trapani on February 28, 2017, 09:57:42 am
Think that puts me off about double stacked though is the hose coming out at neck height as I walk away from the van?

We normally do the hose runs & then semi shut the back doors on the tucked down hose so they aren't a trip hazard. Enough for the doors to lock but not crush the hose.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: DeLuce on February 28, 2017, 10:27:34 pm
I've got the one in your Gardiner link, but I bought mine from an Hydraulic pipe supplier. It's excellent. Very sturdy, robust. I like how it has decent bearings on the shaft and a hefty connector for your water supply. I've had it about 4+ years and it's quality. You can also grease the bearings due to grease nipples on the bearing housings. Forethought there  :P
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: David Beecroft on February 28, 2017, 10:45:10 pm
I've fitted the Pure Freedom double stacked reel and found it very good. The height is not an issue generally although I do keep a conscious eye out that it doesn't become a snag hazard. The reels are so free wheeling that it normally releases enough hose to lay low near to the ground. Something to avoid are the extending rollers. I paid extra for them but I've taken them off as it works just as well without them and they prevented being able to reel the pole hose in along with the reel hose.
My local garage bolted it in for me, saves loads of room. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Simon Trapani on March 01, 2017, 05:03:34 pm
Ok thanks guys.

 see also Pure Freedom have brought out another fixed reel.

I'll give it some more thought.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on March 01, 2017, 07:24:15 pm
we have the reel works reels in our vans 6 in total , there great and were well happy with them , two are on there second van now and have been in daily use for 5 years and there still going strong and we have never had any problems with them at all ,
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: a900 on March 01, 2017, 10:40:02 pm
I've got the one in your Gardiner link, but I bought mine from an Hydraulic pipe supplier. It's excellent. Very sturdy, robust. I like how it has decent bearings on the shaft and a hefty connector for your water supply. I've had it about 4+ years and it's quality. You can also grease the bearings due to grease nipples on the bearing housings. Forethought there  :P

Was it much cheaper from your other supplier? And who were they?
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: martin hulstone on March 02, 2017, 08:57:52 am
we have the reel works reels in our vans 6 in total , there great and were well happy with them , two are on there second van now and have been in daily use for 5 years and there still going strong and we have never had any problems with them at all ,
[/quoteWhich one did you buy Susan and how much microbore can they hold? thanks.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on March 02, 2017, 06:21:00 pm
we have the 460s from gardiners , and we run 8ml  and still get 100m on them easy
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 02, 2017, 07:05:23 pm
Go for the Pure Freedom double stacked reel it will save you loads of time and free up room in your van as opposed to 2 side by side.
I have one of these and they are really good...saves on loads of space and solid design.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: DeLuce on March 03, 2017, 05:36:05 am


Was it much cheaper from your other supplier? And who were they?
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I paid £127 for it a few years back. But, it was the shop window one, so just happened to be there at the right time, asking the right question!!  :D
Got from Blackwell Hydraulics which have now been bought out by Hydroscand.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Simon Trapani on March 04, 2017, 03:38:16 pm
I am now coming round to the idea of the double stacked one: http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/hose-hose-reels/hose-reels/pure-freedom-twin-stacked-professional-hose-reel.html

It's just that height putting doubt in my mind but I like the idea of not having to lean over 2 side by side reels to in order to reach my safety cones which can be quite a strain if carrying 5 or 6.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on March 04, 2017, 04:36:04 pm
heres a pic of one of ours that they are semi mounted and can be took out to free up space , they bolted on to 11ml ply with feet , they don't move around so best of both worlds , because we have never took them out , our lastest vans they just bolt right to the foor

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/whitevangirl/photo.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/whitevangirl/media/photo.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: DeLuce on March 05, 2017, 12:45:13 pm
Very tidy that Susan, looks good. 👍
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: dennis chalk on March 05, 2017, 01:08:31 pm
Cox reels built to last!
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: DeLuce on March 05, 2017, 07:57:49 pm
Blimey! That looks great. Very neat and tidy. Like it  :D
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: dd on March 05, 2017, 11:35:58 pm
Cox reels built to last!
They do not look like Cox reels. Cox reels are blue and have a wider drum.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Simon Trapani on March 06, 2017, 02:05:34 pm
Dd, Dennis isn't saying that Susan's pic is of a Coxreel. He's saying he recommends a Coxreel. Susan's pic is of two Reelworks reels as sold by Gardiners.

That's how I read it anyway.

Coxreels are way over my budget.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: NWH on March 06, 2017, 03:17:26 pm
Do waterworks sell all the fittings so you can get up and running straight away I know some people had issues with the internal fittings not being sent or available.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: p1w1 on March 06, 2017, 03:20:51 pm
Do waterworks sell all the fittings so you can get up and running straight away I know some people had issues with the internal fittings not being sent or available.
yes they came with mine apart from the jubilee clips, although i did change them for fittings i prefer , but it will get you up and running with the barb fittings they send.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: NWH on March 06, 2017, 03:27:38 pm
I have the blue Cox reel at the moment it's a joy to use but I'm reeling  out 60 meters on most jobs so I'm getting the electric soon,I purchased the original one they do the petal style but it couldn't handle hot water it kept blowing the fittings off. How much time and effort is it saving you do you reckon.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: richard groves on March 06, 2017, 04:26:53 pm
Cox reels built to last!
They do not look like Cox reels. Cox reels are blue and have a wider drum.
Why does the reel on the right in Dennis's picture have a cox reel logo on it then ?
I hear what you're saying though, they look very similar to the proloc reel that I have and it is a narrower drum. If on a budget I'd recommend the proloc , very robust quality for the price.
 https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi9qba3pcLSAhWKLMAKHT3oAsYQFggkMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk%2Fproloc-heavy-duty-reel.html&usg=AFQjCNHrSnlholAt1n9rX-MglVWPvMFBXg
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: dennis chalk on March 06, 2017, 04:33:09 pm
Definitely cox reels, supplied by grippatank
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: p1w1 on March 06, 2017, 04:49:21 pm
I have the blue Cox reel at the moment it's a joy to use but I'm reeling  out 60 meters on most jobs so I'm getting the electric soon,I purchased the original one they do the petal style but it couldn't handle hot water it kept blowing the fittings off. How much time and effort is it saving you do you reckon.
I didnt really buy it to save time or work quicker it was to just make my working day that bit easier (so effort wise i generally think you will notice the difference at the end of the day, it is a joy to use).
Time wise well it can reel in 100mt in about 30-40 seconds with no effort so its really down to what jobs you do i guess, but if your reeling out 60mt per job its going to be quicker but imo not going to make that much of a difference really over a day.
Its not going to let you do an extra 2,3,4 houses a day because of its quickness but it certainly makes the day easier for sure effort wise.
The hd version is very well built and cant see any issues using it with hot water, i would recommend using 6mm hose tho and you will probably need a larger barb fitting then what is supplied with hot water to get a very tight fit (i changed to an 8mm barb with microbore  also the screw thread is 1/4 inch so have only found an appropriate fitting on e-bay)
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: dd on March 06, 2017, 06:52:05 pm
Cox reels built to last!
They do not look like Cox reels. Cox reels are blue and have a wider drum.
Why does the reel on the right in Dennis's picture have a cox reel logo on it then ?
I hear what you're saying though, they look very similar to the proloc reel that I have and it is a narrower drum. If on a budget I'd recommend the proloc , very robust quality for the price.
 https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi9qba3pcLSAhWKLMAKHT3oAsYQFggkMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk%2Fproloc-heavy-duty-reel.html&usg=AFQjCNHrSnlholAt1n9rX-MglVWPvMFBXg
The cox reel looks very similar to the hannay which I have.

If you look on the Grippa or Gardiner websites, the cox reels shown are blue, wider and look like a blue version of the Hannay.

Maybe Grippa have supplied a cox reel that is not shown on their website. Either way Dennis' system looks good and they look like good quality reels in his picture.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Simon Trapani on June 07, 2017, 04:17:56 pm
heres a pic of one of ours that they are semi mounted and can be took out to free up space , they bolted on to 11ml ply with feet , they don't move around so best of both worlds , because we have never took them out , our lastest vans they just bolt right to the foor

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/whitevangirl/photo.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/whitevangirl/media/photo.jpg.html)

Ordered two of these today. They are massive. No wonder you've got them facing sideways. They barely fit side by side. Hopefully I can return them for a fee. Overkill IMO.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on June 07, 2017, 09:30:21 pm
we have them fitted side ways as its easyer to wide the hose in and quicker to do so , we buy them because they last for ever and never need anything doing to them even with our lot and the way they treat them , out oldest set are 5 years old and still going strong the vans wear out befour the reels do
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: windowswashed on June 07, 2017, 11:08:43 pm
Tried the petal reels to begin with, hated them, threw them out....rubbish. Got a large Ionics stainless one and had it fifteen years. Three or four years ago the welds snapped but I was running 300metres on it some days, Welded it back up and just keep 100metres on it now and still going strong, can't fault it, I would buy another despite the price:)
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: mark coates on June 08, 2017, 12:04:23 am
We've got 2 vans with a grippatank system in each. We used the cox reels in one van and I had already bought the hanney reels so we fitted them in the other. Both reels are fantastic and work great with the hot water, which is what we use. If I had to say though, I would say that the hanney reels are slightly better, only because the handle is slightly shorter than the cox reels and therefore when reeling in you're making a smaller turning movement with your arm, which makes it slightly less tiring to reel in.

Either way, if you went for either of these reels you wouldn't be disappointed.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: P @ F on June 08, 2017, 09:31:48 am
What do people not like about the petal reels ?
I know they are not as cheap as they used to be but its all i have ever used and have not had any problems .
I do tweak mine a tad but nothing major , smooth as butter they be !

Rich
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Spruce on June 08, 2017, 11:01:31 am
What do people not like about the petal reels ?
I know they are not as cheap as they used to be but its all i have ever used and have not had any problems .
I do tweak mine a tad but nothing major , smooth as butter they be !

Rich

Had our wheeled petal reels for 10 years. Just a drop of 3 in 1 oil on the bushes  occasionally and it is really very smooth. The shaft and bushes are wearing and there is a bit of play now, but they both have done us well.

All I've  had to do is replace the male hose connector and weld a new piece of metal on the front or leading support bar as that wore through with movement on the road.

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Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: P @ F on June 08, 2017, 03:09:31 pm
What do people not like about the petal reels ?
I know they are not as cheap as they used to be but its all i have ever used and have not had any problems .
I do tweak mine a tad but nothing major , smooth as butter they be !

Rich

Had our wheeled petal reels for 10 years. Just a drop of 3 in 1 oil on the bushes  occasionally and it is really very smooth. The shaft and bushes are wearing and there is a bit of play now, but they both have done us well.

All I've  had to do is replace the male hose connector and weld a new piece of metal on the front or leading support bar as that wore through with movement on the road.

.
This is the type of petal i used , just modded it with bearings , the second pic is how i have it now , wanted rid of the metal frame to free up some space , the bearings cost about £7 each off fleabay .

Rich
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Simon Trapani on June 08, 2017, 04:10:32 pm
Thanks guys. Probably gonna go for these now: http://purefreedom.co.uk/product/pure-freedom-professional-hose-and-reel/  and bolt through them to the floor. Just want something a bit better than petals for my new van but cannot justify the cost of 2 cox reels.

My petals have been fine apart from hose catching in the petals and going off down the side and getting caught in the bolts. They're a bit rough but have lasted me 7 years. Frames are going a bit rusty now. I find if I WD40 or similar then it over unreels. Anyone who has done this will know what I mean.
Title: Re: Which fixed hose reel?
Post by: Shrek on June 08, 2017, 05:16:38 pm
Thanks guys. Probably gonna go for these now: http://purefreedom.co.uk/product/pure-freedom-professional-hose-and-reel/  and bolt through them to the floor. Just want something a bit better than petals for my new van but cannot justify the cost of 2 cox reels.

My petals have been fine apart from hose catching in the petals and going off down the side and getting caught in the bolts. They're a bit rough but have lasted me 7 years. Frames are going a bit rusty now. I find if I WD40 or similar then it over unreels. Anyone who has done this will know what I mean.

Iv got 1 of these , great reel 👍