Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on February 21, 2017, 07:44:20 am
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Hot water (40 degrees ish) via immersion all day, love it. :)
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Immersion heater, nice hot water all day long. No burning of eye brows, no blowing your van up. No missing out information to insurance company and worrying if they dont pay out. Quite simply,
Safe, safe and oh yes,,,,,, safe
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Immersion heater, nice hot water all day long. No burning of eye brows, no blowing your van up. No missing out information to insurance company and worrying if they dont pay out. Quite simply,
Safe, safe and oh yes,,,,,, safe
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Nice cold pure, No burning of eye brows, no blowing your van up, No missing out info to your insurance company and
worrying if they will pay out.
Safe, safe and oh yes.....safe...................plus a few extra quid in my back pocket at the end of the year.
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We don't want go blowing up our new lease van now do we dazmond. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD4gIgVQD14
Bit like ignoring a red warning engine stop light I suppose lol
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hot pure then stopped using it because i couldnt be bothered to get another bottle but then when the cold weather hit i got a bottle and realised just how much better it is scrubbing and melting the crap off, definately intend to carry on through this summer with that stubborn bug crap!
we make enough money that a few extra quid isnt much!
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hot pure then stopped using it because i couldnt be bothered to get another bottle but then when the cold weather hit i got a bottle and realised just how much better it is scrubbing and melting the crap off, definately intend to carry on through this summer with that stubborn bug crap!
we make enough money that a few extra quid isnt much!
That's why I use vision.... because it makes life so much easier.... the glass turns hydrophilic too! 😂🤣😂🤣
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Don't forget dazmond there are many with diesel fired water heaters too and the first ionic hot water heaters sold were in fact lpg heaters. Concept are still using lpg as far as the last time I looked.
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hot pure then stopped using it because i couldnt be bothered to get another bottle but then when the cold weather hit i got a bottle and realised just how much better it is scrubbing and melting the crap off, definately intend to carry on through this summer with that stubborn bug crap!
we make enough money that a few extra quid isnt much!
Thats what i dont understand. All the big wigs on here about how much they earn n near the vat mark and they quibble over over a small expense of heating water. Helps reduce the tax bill a little as well, but if there raking it in, then their tax bills must be chicken feed (yorkshire saying)
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hot pure then stopped using it because i couldnt be bothered to get another bottle but then when the cold weather hit i got a bottle and realised just how much better it is scrubbing and melting the crap off, definately intend to carry on through this summer with that stubborn bug crap!
we make enough money that a few extra quid isnt much!
Thats what i dont understand. All the big wigs on here about how much they earn n near the vat mark and they quibble over over a small expense of heating water. Helps reduce the tax bill a little as well, but if there raking it in, then their tax bills must be chicken feed (yorkshire saying)
Just because your a so called big wig doesn't mean you need to wipe your backside with £5 notes, personally I haven't read
anything other than it makes the hoses slightly easier to handle in the cooler months that would make me want to start using hot
water, if I worked by the coast or in an area where I needed to melt off what was getting onto the glass and frames then I may have to rethink this.
Out of interest what problems where you getting on the glass that caused you to move to hot ?
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hot pure then stopped using it because i couldnt be bothered to get another bottle but then when the cold weather hit i got a bottle and realised just how much better it is scrubbing and melting the crap off, definately intend to carry on through this summer with that stubborn bug crap!
we make enough money that a few extra quid isnt much!
Thats what i dont understand. All the big wigs on here about how much they earn n near the vat mark and they quibble over over a small expense of heating water. Helps reduce the tax bill a little as well, but if there raking it in, then their tax bills must be chicken feed (yorkshire saying)
This is CIU- Pinch of salt an' all that! ;)
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What made me change onto hot.......
I changed onto wfp to make this job easier, so achieved that by getting rid off the ladders n a bucket. Wfp is great and so easy in comparison, that came winter or colder days i didnt want to be working with cold hoses and them kinking etc. I also went wfp so i didnt loose days off work due to it raining. So i also didnt want the cold or snow causing freezing on the windows. So i went down the warm/hot water route. The fish/pond heaters got the temp upto 32/34 degrees C, which gave warm hoses n pole which isbrilliant n a delight to work with. At brush end it was tepid. But i could see a difference in cleaning esp as i had nearly 2mnths of work, so dried on bird mess etc. So now i want it hotter than the restricted heat of pond heaters.
So;
*Warmer, easier hoses n warm pole.
*Improved cleaning compared to cold esp on colder days.
Also.going down route of electric reel, just to make this job easier. A friends has done a change in career and so im taking on an extra £450 of work. So a slight increase on electric bill due to the immersion being on after midnight at cheaper rates anyway, is well worth the comfort of an easier days work.
Just my opinion
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hot pure then stopped using it because i couldnt be bothered to get another bottle but then when the cold weather hit i got a bottle and realised just how much better it is scrubbing and melting the crap off, definately intend to carry on through this summer with that stubborn bug crap!
we make enough money that a few extra quid isnt much!
Thats what i dont understand. All the big wigs on here about how much they earn n near the vat mark and they quibble over over a small expense of heating water. Helps reduce the tax bill a little as well, but if there raking it in, then their tax bills must be chicken feed (yorkshire saying)
I don’t think anyone quibbles about the cost of heating water. Its the safety and convenience that most are concerned with.
Now feck off and keep your cock in your trousers, we’re all sick to the back teeth of supporting your child benefit requirements, bleeding old woman. ;D
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The main concern with the diesel heater is the battery drain,if anyone can get that problem sorted you can't beat em tbh. I've had
Mine for 10 years and it's ideal for what we use it for and it's a safe unit to walk away from and know that it's not likely to set light to the van.
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How much is your servicing cost annually?
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hot pure then stopped using it because i couldnt be bothered to get another bottle but then when the cold weather hit i got a bottle and realised just how much better it is scrubbing and melting the crap off, definately intend to carry on through this summer with that stubborn bug crap!
we make enough money that a few extra quid isnt much!
Thats what i dont understand. All the big wigs on here about how much they earn n near the vat mark and they quibble over over a small expense of heating water. Helps reduce the tax bill a little as well, but if there raking it in, then their tax bills must be chicken feed (yorkshire saying)
I don’t think anyone quibbles about the cost of heating water. Its the safety and convenience that most are concerned with.
Now feck off and keep your cock in your trousers, we’re all sick to the back teeth of supporting your child benefit requirements, bleeding old woman. ;D
Touchy Matt, not had your local fix today of sarcasm or just need a happy pill.
I hear people do ok on benefit why dont i sort ur mrs out so u can get some 😂😂😯
Just cause i have zkids from a previous marriage mate doesnt = benefit street.
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Im pi$$ed off ;) my hose was permanently tangled and didn’t want to co-operate at all. Its cold reckon water that does it. ;)
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would be nice if a 13kilo gas bottol was £10 ;D love my hot tho :P
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hot pure then stopped using it because i couldnt be bothered to get another bottle but then when the cold weather hit i got a bottle and realised just how much better it is scrubbing and melting the crap off, definately intend to carry on through this summer with that stubborn bug crap!
we make enough money that a few extra quid isnt much!
Thats what i dont understand. All the big wigs on here about how much they earn n near the vat mark and they quibble over over a small expense of heating water. Helps reduce the tax bill a little as well, but if there raking it in, then their tax bills must be chicken feed (yorkshire saying)
I don’t think anyone quibbles about the cost of heating water. Its the safety and convenience that most are concerned with.
Now feck off and keep your cock in your trousers, we’re all sick to the back teeth of supporting your child benefit requirements, bleeding old woman. ;D
Touchy Matt, not had your local fix today of sarcasm or just need a happy pill.
I hear people do ok on benefit why dont i sort ur mrs out so u can get some 😂😂😯
Just cause i have zkids from a previous marriage mate doesnt = benefit street.
God .... you would bore her to death with your life story every time you open your mouth
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hot pure then stopped using it because i couldnt be bothered to get another bottle but then when the cold weather hit i got a bottle and realised just how much better it is scrubbing and melting the crap off, definately intend to carry on through this summer with that stubborn bug crap!
we make enough money that a few extra quid isnt much!
Now feck off and keep your cock in your trousers, we’re all sick to the back teeth of supporting your child benefit requirements, bleeding old woman. ;D
Touchy Matt, not had your local fix today of sarcasm or just need a happy pill.
I hear people do ok on benefit why dont i sort ur mrs out so u can get some 😂😂😯
Just cause i have zkids from a previous marriage mate doesnt = benefit street.
God .... you would bore her to death with your life story every time you open your mouth
I didnt have talking in mind 😉
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Makes a change
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Is it peoples monthlys or something on here ;D
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In my mind it has to help the clean, I've run out of gas while working in past and instantly noticed the glide get slightly harder on the glass and little marks on frames sills etc need that extra pass.
I look at like this for example, next time you butter a piece of toast shove the knife under a tap of cold water and watch the left over butter on the blade, nothing shifts then put the hot water on and watch it run off into the sink.
No scrubbing or anything just a change in water temp, now we don't have butter on windows lol but its just a point that it helps soften any dirt,bird crap or anything else on the windows.
I love the soft hoses too,makes dragging them round just that bit easier and yes I could and have worked with cold and it wouldn't be a problem but anything to make the job easier or better for me.
I use the cheaper stainless heater myself and its well set up,vented efficiently and maintained every year and this is my 4th year now and its still going strong, they are made very cheaply though having stripped it down in past and it will always be a risk but for me no more than an electrical wire burning out etc because I have it set up fine and serviced every so often.
£30 a month on a 19kg bottle I spend and always shut it off when finished at the end of the day, maybe I could put an inline tap to easier shut it off after every job but I'm happy how it's set up, can understand others concerns though but we all do our own things in life.
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I choose to use hot all year round for the simple reason that it makes jobs a whole lot easier or I would not bother.
Peeps still using cold for whatever reason I would say don't knock using hot until you give it a go.
The ones that have stopped using hot purely down to cost I would say to them why not just put yer prices up then... Sorted lol
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I choose to use hot all year round for the simple reason that it makes jobs a whole lot easier or I would not bother.
Peeps still using cold for whatever reason I would say don't knock using hot until you give it a go.
The ones that have stopped using hot down to cost why not just put yer prices up then... Sorted lol
Don't think anybody's knocking it, hot will only clean better if what you're getting on the glass needs better to remove it sometimes you just don't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
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I choose to use hot all year round for the simple reason that it makes jobs a whole lot easier or I would not bother.
Peeps still using cold for whatever reason I would say don't knock using hot until you give it a go.
The ones that have stopped using hot down to cost why not just put yer prices up then... Sorted lol
Don't think anybody's knocking it, hot will only clean better if what you're getting on the glass needs better to remove it sometimes you just don't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
So I take by that comment you never use hot then as if you did you would know how much more effective it is than using cold even on so say regular cleans.
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I probably would use hot but don't have a clue where to start and I can't be arsed faffing about with stuff. I try and keep everything as easy as possible
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I choose to use hot all year round for the simple reason that it makes jobs a whole lot easier or I would not bother.
Peeps still using cold for whatever reason I would say don't knock using hot until you give it a go.
The ones that have stopped using hot down to cost why not just put yer prices up then... Sorted lol
Don't think anybody's knocking it, hot will only clean better if what you're getting on the glass needs better to remove it sometimes you just don't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
So I take by that comment you never use hot then as if you did you would know how much more effective it is than using cold even on so say regular cleans.
More effective at what ? removing a months worth of dust and the odd bird poo that can be removed easily and quickly with quick soak and a Gardiner scraper.
Don't need to have used it to know I don't need it.
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I choose to use hot all year round for the simple reason that it makes jobs a whole lot easier or I would not bother.
Peeps still using cold for whatever reason I would say don't knock using hot until you give it a go.
The ones that have stopped using hot down to cost why not just put yer prices up then... Sorted lol
Don't think anybody's knocking it, hot will only clean better if what you're getting on the glass needs better to remove it sometimes you just don't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
So I take by that comment you never use hot then as if you did you would know how much more effective it is than using cold even on so say regular cleans.
More effective at what ? removing a months worth of dust and the odd bird poo that can be removed easily and quickly with quick soak and a Gardiner scraper.
Don't need to have used it to know I don't need it.
Like I said before don't knock it until you have tried it as you may be pleasantly surprised.
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I can't believe the people knocking it without trying it lol
I used to knock wfp when I was trad a few years ago because I couldn't get my head round leaving windows wet but here I am wfp and loving it.
Honestly can't see how people who haven't even tried it can even make a comment on it with no experience?
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I can't believe the people knocking it without trying it lol
I used to knock wfp when I was trad a few years ago because I couldn't get my head round leaving windows wet but here I am wfp and loving it.
Honestly can't see how people who haven't even tried it can even make a comment on it with no experience?
Same here i knocked wfp, but like u said it makes life cleaning windows easier. I also couldnt see point in hot, but after a slight taste, here i am cutting holes in my tank and sticking a 27" element in. Its easy to do and once tasted, i dont desire to go back to cold and my work is 4wkly.
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I would imagine if like me most will say once they have tried hot they would not go back to just using cold given a choice. Mind some are very set in their ways no matter what tools are at their disposal to make their job easier to do.
Still it makes me chuckle as the likes of ionic go on about how great a zero ppb system is but still sell a hot version. Wonder why that is? lol
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I can't believe the people knocking it without trying it lol
I used to knock wfp when I was trad a few years ago because I couldn't get my head round leaving windows wet but here I am wfp and loving it.
Honestly can't see how people who haven't even tried it can even make a comment on it with no experience?
Its simple, I don't need to have used a parts per billion machine to know I don't need one to do the job I need to do yet
I'm sure you will get somebody who will tell me I'm missing out.
Maybe the fact that you used to knock wfp means deep down you still don't really trust its up to the job hence you need hot
as a confidence booster.
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Lack of confidence??? you must be having a laugh lol
Mind with a name like dry clean I'm now wondering if you rag or blade the windows dry afterwards?
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Never tries hot but am happy with cold.
I will get an immersion next winter I think just to try it but mainly guard against freezing.
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Immersion heater, nice hot water all day long. No burning of eye brows, no blowing your van up. No missing out information to insurance company and worrying if they dont pay out. Quite simply,
Safe, safe and oh yes,,,,,, safe
;D
Does that pumps out 50 degrees at 3.30 pm?
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Immersion heater, nice hot water all day long. No burning of eye brows, no blowing your van up. No missing out information to insurance company and worrying if they dont pay out. Quite simply,
Safe, safe and oh yes,,,,,, safe
;D
Does that pumps out 50 degrees at 3.30 pm?
My tank is insulated. It holds the temp all day, by night (8pm ish) it will have dropped by 5 -10 degrees pending quantity of water left in tank (500l)
So if going hot i would recommend insulating your tank.
Lol, any more objections to be overturned ;D
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Lack of confidence??? you must be having a laugh lol
Mind with a name like dry clean I'm now wondering if you rag or blade the windows dry afterwards?
No it just means the window dry clean, thought it sounded good back in the day when wfp wasn't that well known, wouldn't
pick it now though.
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Lack of confidence??? you must be having a laugh lol
Mind with a name like dry clean I'm now wondering if you rag or blade the windows dry afterwards?
No it just means the window dry clean, thought it sounded good back in the day when wfp wasn't that well known, wouldn't
pick it now though.
I betting that name confused quite a few old folk though. You know the ones "you left my windows wet" brigade.
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I ticked the last option - to stop freezing (I use an immersion) but supple hoses are a joy and save effort in untwisting them. If I know I have a big first clean or a school (six monthly) I might raise the temperature but for regular (8 weekly) cleans I only put the immersion on (into the mid-20 degrees) if:-
a) the natural water temperature will be below about 10 - 15 degrees
b) I have a full day of work
c) the air temperature at start of day is below about 5 degrees
All figures are approximate and down to my mood on the day or the night before and there is an element of CBA that overrides sometimes.
I will raise it (to about 40 degrees) if I have a first clean of some size.
I find that with 400/500L to start with at say 25/30 degrees, by the end of the day the temperature is still above 20 degrees when I am in the last 100L or so.
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Used a diesel hot water heater for over 10 years, I removed from T5 in September when I down sized used to use all year but stop using last spring
I only used it to make life easier but to be honest I'm still not sure wether to put back in the spare van, I'm happy as it is now, I use an additive which to be fair works as well on regular cleans
Service cost whom ever asked earlier was about 185 plus vat every other year
They are hungry for power you need to put in at least 2 battery's if you can at least 3 110 AMP not good if your stationary most days
I moved around a lot and clean between 8-12 house a day so ever had problem with batteries
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the hose was a PITA today without hot water!it was like wire and i did spend a little more time on some of the larger 8 weekly properties but all in all not too bad.
with having a combi boiler fitted in my flat a few weeks ago and DI only im gonna try and purify from my hot tap and see how i go! :)
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the hose was a PITA today without hot water!it was like wire and i did spend a little more time on some of the larger 8 weekly properties but all in all not too bad.
with having a combi boiler fitted in my flat a few weeks ago and DI only im gonna try and purify from my hot tap and see how i go! :)
Would that just eat through your resin quite quickly?
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We use hot all year round it's not cheap to run but it's worth the cost in my opinion, far easier/quicker on first cleans , plastics and jobs that are infrequent