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Title: Tank baffles
Post by: a900 on February 14, 2017, 07:54:13 pm
Wondering what you have all found to be  the easiest and most cost effective tank baffles?

I have a 500l lay flat tank. The lid is quite large so that should make baffle choices easier. I was thinking cut down soil pipe or plant pots cable tied in pairs
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: nathankaye on February 14, 2017, 11:59:35 pm
I bought a 500l upright tank, supposedly baffled........a wydale tank. It is kinda, as due to tank design it is segmented nearly into a 250l divide. I was baffled as to why i still suffered from sloshing feeling every time i stopped. Then realised.
I use 200 soft plastic balls for kids play pits. £5 for 100 balls. Puncture holes in balls n throw them in tank. Job done n cheap as chips
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: a900 on February 15, 2017, 08:51:48 am
Did 200 fill it? This is the sort of information you can't find easy on your own

Thanks
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: Spruce on February 15, 2017, 08:57:27 am
IMO the baffling in Wyedale tanks is pretty effective. It also allows for easier cleaning.

I had a trailer with 3 x 125 liter unbaffled tanks fitted length ways. When those tanks where half empty, then we knew what sloshing and rocking was all about.

Correct me if i'm wrong please, but weren't early Ionics tanks unbaffled?
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: nathankaye on February 15, 2017, 09:23:14 am
Did 200 fill it? This is the sort of information you can't find easy on your own

Thanks

200 doesnt fill the tank by any means, but its enough for it to be effective. I first only put 100 balls in but i could still feel it but only slightly. The extra 100 certainly worked. I have thought about putting more in, but its not required
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: NWH on February 15, 2017, 10:43:38 am
Wyvale tanks are not baffled at all,a proper baffled tank will be divided up into 8-10" honeycomb divides throughout. Fire engine baffling technology,water is contained in secments not allowing it to slosh about.
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: Jamie Thomas on February 15, 2017, 11:04:27 am
 Iv always used wydale tanks you get a little movement but never had any problems with them. Unless you got a shed load of cash to spend on the newest tank selling gimmick get a wydale I'd say it's the most used tank.
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: NWH on February 15, 2017, 02:15:53 pm
Vans have been known to flip over with a whyvale tank on board,speak to Neil at
Plastic watertanks if you need to know anything about wyvale tanks,it'll make your hair curl,they are not baffled.
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: dd on February 15, 2017, 04:11:57 pm
Iv always used wydale tanks you get a little movement but never had any problems with them. Unless you got a shed load of cash to spend on the newest tank selling gimmick get a wydale I'd say it's the most used tank.
To get a properly baffled custom made tank might cost £250-£300 more over a Wydale tank. It really is not that much more, especially considering you should have the tank years.

Added advantage is the Wydale tanks are clear and so prone to Algae growth.

Also you have the custom tank built to what size suits you best.
To me the upright Wydale tanks are too top heavy (not good in a collision) and IMO the flat tanks are too shallow (could be awkward pumping the last few inches of water).
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: NWH on February 15, 2017, 04:44:02 pm
To solve the problem of not being able to get all the water out of a flat tank wedge up the front so the water is slightly angled down hill towards the outlet,problem solved you'll get every drop out i did it with 2 tapered wedges on a flat tank of a fellow WCs tank.
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: dazmond on February 15, 2017, 06:38:17 pm
I bought a 500l upright tank, supposedly baffled........a wydale tank. It is kinda, as due to tank design it is segmented nearly into a 250l divide. I was baffled as to why i still suffered from sloshing feeling every time i stopped. Then realised.
I use 200 soft plastic balls for kids play pits. £5 for 100 balls. Puncture holes in balls n throw them in tank. Job done n cheap as chips

why? ::)roll

ive had the same tank as you for years.its fine as it is.the sloshing is hardly noticeable.
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: NWH on February 15, 2017, 07:20:33 pm
I had a wyvale tank when I first started WFP when I pulled up at the traffic lights it brought back memories of a cross channel ferry crossing I did years ago,if you are doing local trips and not getting about 50mph maybe but if your doing any motorway driving I'd think again. Give Neil a ring see what he thinks of em lol 😂
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: dazmond on February 15, 2017, 07:24:19 pm
I had a wyvale tank when I first started WFP when I pulled up at the traffic lights it brought back memories of a cross channel ferry crossing I did years ago,if you are doing local trips and not getting about 50mph maybe but if your doing any motorway driving I'd think again. Give Neil a ring see what he thinks of em lol 😂

i went to the isle of man on a school trip when i was around 8 years old.ill never forget how rough the irish sea was on the way back!seriously scary! :o ;D ;D.

having a wydale tank in your van is not like a cross channel ferry crossing! ;D
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: Shrek on February 15, 2017, 08:39:03 pm
Why do you keep calling them wyvale or whyvale tanks wtf
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: nathankaye on February 15, 2017, 08:42:45 pm
I'ld be parked up at traffic lights and depending which car/driver pulls up at the side, i used to get various types of looks.
Im sat there rocking or head bopping like a pigeon lol  ;D   if its a boy racer he laughed n sped off as if i was gonna race him  ;D for instance. Dread to think what the old dears thought but they did have strange expressions on their faces as they watched me rock back n forth in some type of fit  ;D

We all know that wydale tanks are not fully baffled or baffled.  Esp down to NWH, at every opportunity to say so,,,,,sometimes i feel the urge to start a thread just to wind some characters up on here.......thinking about " how easy to install a wydale tank with bungee clips  ;D ;D "
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: Jamie Thomas on February 15, 2017, 09:10:42 pm
I was starting to think someone had a axe to grind with wydale tanks or a back hander to promote another tank. Does anyone actually no someone who has had there van tip over that was caused by a wydale tank. And not some cock end tanking round a country lane a 70 first thing in the morning and the blind bend appears from nowhere.
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: NWH on February 15, 2017, 09:28:30 pm
Suppliers use them not coz they are safe and ideal for WFP they use them
Coz they can obtain them as cheap as chips,they can turn £100 odd quid trade add a pump a reel and pole and ask newbies to give em 3 grand for it,some even try and get round the fact that there crap by getting them made in black too 😂
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: JandS on February 15, 2017, 09:46:34 pm
A 500 litre tank with about 400 litres in it does not bare thinking about unbaffled.......400kg sloshing from one side to the other as you corner cannot do your van any good
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: nathankaye on February 15, 2017, 11:21:31 pm
True, though its not like you would have 400l at one side of the tank at any one time. Plus it is confined to a set space which also limits its motion and force. Though it does highlight how important it is to use the correct bungee cord to anchor the tank down. But thankfully wydale combats that by integrating within its design, a means to baffle the tank.
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: Shrek on February 16, 2017, 07:26:24 am
I wouldn't say it sloshes side to side , I've got a hole in my tank lid to put my tube in for my trolley, I hardly ever spill any because I'm conscious of what is in the back. I turn corners very slow  and I don't stop sharply . If your gonna drive your van like you do your car , then you will get sloshing
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: dazmond on February 16, 2017, 08:48:35 am
A 500 litre tank with about 400 litres in it does not bare thinking about unbaffled.......400kg sloshing from one side to the other as you corner cannot do your van any good

oh please........how melodramatic! ;D vans are meant to have a hard life! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: dazmond on February 16, 2017, 08:51:55 am
I'ld be parked up at traffic lights and depending which car/driver pulls up at the side, i used to get various types of looks.
Im sat there rocking or head bopping like a pigeon lol  ;D   if its a boy racer he laughed n sped off as if i was gonna race him  ;D for instance. Dread to think what the old dears thought but they did have strange expressions on their faces as they watched me rock back n forth in some type of fit  ;D

We all know that wydale tanks are not fully baffled or baffled.  Esp down to NWH, at every opportunity to say so,,,,,sometimes i feel the urge to start a thread just to wind some characters up on here.......thinking about " how easy to install a wydale tank with bungee clips  ;D ;D "

 ;D ;D ;D

maybe fitting my tanks length ways has  a less swaying affect as thats never happened to me in 6 years of wydale tanks!
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: NWH on February 16, 2017, 09:03:15 am
You will have all the water move at one time that's the whole point,you go round a bend or off a slip road onto a motorway the huge weight will transfer to one side of the vehicle causing big problems. Baffling the tank correctly stops it moving does it not,try it with a wyvale half or 3/4s full lol
Title: Re: Tank baffles
Post by: dazmond on February 16, 2017, 09:16:49 am
You will have all the water move at one time that's the whole point,you go round a bend or off a slip road onto a motorway the huge weight will transfer to one side of the vehicle causing big problems. Baffling the tank correctly stops it moving does it not,try it with a wyvale half or 3/4s full lol

it doesnt "cause" any problems mate.ive been driving around with these tanks full/half full etc for years.i dont drive fast though for obvious reasons(i save that for the GTI) ;)

what "big problems" do they cause exactly?