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Title: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Caleb Morley on February 10, 2017, 05:05:28 pm
After having the van nicked earlier in the week I'm thinking that when I get set up again I want the hose to pass through the van floor so the back doors are also closed.

I've seen the below product and video:

https://www.waterworkswindowcleaning.co.uk/security-pulleys.html

From 55 seconds on: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jo6btTOwXzQ


Has anyone bought or made something similar?

Any good? Positives/negatives?

Cheers lads,

Kay
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Jonny 87 on February 10, 2017, 05:35:46 pm
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Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Jonny 87 on February 10, 2017, 05:39:36 pm
I just used the three rollers from grippatank.

2 squares the same to sandwich the floor of the van.

Then a right angle roller.

Really easy to do to be honest.  Use a circle hole cutter, draw your template and jigsaw the floor of van, then attach rollers together with the bolts.

Nice and safe and secure.
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Caleb Morley on February 10, 2017, 06:04:08 pm
Thanks mate, definitely think I'm going to go for that this time round.
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: simonr on February 10, 2017, 07:35:06 pm
i have a similar set up , floor rollers i got from gardiners then one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cable-Winch-Fairlead-Roller-Pulley-Lifting-Host-Trailer-ATV-Recovery-Steel-4x4-/191737555236?hash=item2ca472e924:g:4wwAAOSw65FXvcvm          my mate welded it under the van to some angle iron, been there nearly 2 years now
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: duncan h on February 10, 2017, 08:30:45 pm
I use one of water works steel rollers. The same as in the floor. They aren't that good. As soon as hose kinks it stops. Ok through back door, but if you have to bend down :(
Get a simple roller like one above. All 4 rollers at the same level. Not 2 behind 2
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Splash & dash on February 10, 2017, 11:00:57 pm
My set up is very similar to Johny 87 works ok but I think it could be improved , it's hard work pulling the hose through the rollers compared to a free standing reel , Ime sure someone will come up with an improved version soon
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: p1w1 on February 10, 2017, 11:20:00 pm
Those rollers from grippy tank are rubbish. Any slight pressure on the rollers and they scrape on the metal there not designed for the hose to be pulled at any sharpish angle. I had to drill the rivets out and then file the metal back so the roller would not come into contact with it when pulling the hose against them enabling the roller to move freely.
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Caleb Morley on February 11, 2017, 01:11:17 am
Life's never simple is it?

Some saying it's good, others rubbish.

Don't know whether to bother now.
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Caleb Morley on February 11, 2017, 01:25:32 am
I just used the three rollers from grippatank.

2 squares the same to sandwich the floor of the van.

Then a right angle roller.

Really easy to do to be honest.  Use a circle hole cutter, draw your template and jigsaw the floor of van, then attach rollers together with the bolts.

Nice and safe and secure.

Hi Jonny,

Can you confirm which products you used?

I'm not sure what you mean when you said three rollers from grippatank and a right angle roller?

Cheers
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Caleb Morley on February 11, 2017, 01:28:40 am
I use one of water works steel rollers. The same as in the floor. They aren't that good. As soon as hose kinks it stops. Ok through back door, but if you have to bend down :(
Get a simple roller like one above. All 4 rollers at the same level. Not 2 behind 2

Hi Duncan,

What do you mean when you say: All 4 rollers at the same level. Not 2 behind 2?

Cheers,
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: dazmond on February 11, 2017, 08:06:40 am
just lock the cab and side door.no ones gonna try and nick your tank out the back of the van! ;D

what exactly is worth nicking in the back of your van?a pole maybe and a leisure battery/controller. ::)roll

or do you carry gutter vacs and pressure washers with you every day?
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: trippyboy on February 11, 2017, 08:24:35 am
I don't fancy closing my van doors and filling up the van with carbon monoxide.
Even with a flu my water heater still omits a few fumes.
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 11, 2017, 08:45:20 am
just lock the cab and side door.no ones gonna try and nick your tank out the back of the van! ;D

what exactly is worth nicking in the back of your van?a pole maybe and a leisure battery/controller. ::)roll

or do you carry gutter vacs and pressure washers with you every day?

My extreme 47?
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: duncan h on February 11, 2017, 09:52:00 am
I use one of water works steel rollers. The same as in the floor. They aren't that good. As soon as hose kinks it stops. Ok through back door, but if you have to bend down :(
Get a simple roller like one above. All 4 rollers at the same level. Not 2 behind 2

Hi Duncan,

What do you mean when you say: All 4 rollers at the same level. Not 2 behind 2?

Cheers,
Get this type. 4 basic rollers all flush
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=e6nmb8Db&id=D722992C10CD626D8F7BBC05821AF3ACE4BA80AB&q=hose+guide&simid=608014718727291372&selectedIndex=19&ajaxhist=0
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Tosh on February 11, 2017, 11:00:30 am
 Anything I pass goes down the toilet thank you very much   
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on February 11, 2017, 12:16:00 pm
we put our straight out the side of the van no messing around with rollers , then add a filler cap to tidy the hole up job done for 2.99
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Splash & dash on February 11, 2017, 03:58:53 pm
The blue rollers arnt very good they keep chipping when pulling hose in or out on the clips joining the microbore to pole hose , will try and post pics but it won't let me at the moment ???
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Jonny 87 on February 11, 2017, 05:10:21 pm
I just used the three rollers from grippatank.

2 squares the same to sandwich the floor of the van.

Then a right angle roller.

Really easy to do to be honest.  Use a circle hole cutter, draw your template and jigsaw the floor of van, then attach rollers together with the bolts.

Nice and safe and secure.

Hi Jonny,

Can you confirm which products you used?

I'm not sure what you mean when you said three rollers from grippatank and a right angle roller?

Cheers


I honestly love my rollers.  I can even pull the hose out to the front of the van. Absoloutley no problems at all, very little resistance.  I do use a powerup reel though so not sure if that makes a difference (I don't think it should).

Here is exactly what I bought ;

2 of these
https://www.grippatank.co.uk/t4rb

1 of these (small)
https://www.grippatank.co.uk/t4rb-3913

They honestly work a dream,  mayb they have been set up differently for someone else to not work properly, but for me in my set up it's perfect.

Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Splash & dash on February 11, 2017, 05:14:50 pm
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Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Splash & dash on February 11, 2017, 05:19:35 pm
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Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Jonny 87 on February 11, 2017, 10:03:53 pm
Reflections south west

How long have they been on?? They look wrecked.

Have you ever greased and cleaned them? Mine have been on over a month and look brand new still, but at the end of every week I clean and wd40 them. Not sure if that will make a difference in the long run.
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Splash & dash on February 11, 2017, 11:46:24 pm
They are 2 years old , I do clean them and lubricate them with wd40 or silicon spray but you only have to reel the hose in once to have them covered in grit . The chunks Brocken off is due to the clips on the joiners between the microbore and the pole hose I found after the first couple of days that they chipped it works well but the rollers arnt really up to the job they arnt good quality , I keep looking for something similar size but better made haven't found anything yet , I find them noisy too due to the very poor tolerance between the roller and the shaft there's a lot of p,any in them
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 12, 2017, 04:56:41 am
Had rollers in the floor since 2014 on my transit custom.

I had the blue rollers and they looked the same after 12months as the pic above.

In the end I just asked Grippatank to make a setup to my specifications from scratch.

It's not perfect YET. I just need a couple of mods and then it's epic.

MASSIVE improvement and had it designed so I can swap out and replace rollers so quickly.

Had it on the van for nearly 6 months and still fab.

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1486875385_IMG_7879.PNG)
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Splash & dash on February 12, 2017, 04:01:02 pm
That sounds interesting , any pics ? How long do they last ? I am seriously intrested in an upgrade to improve it any pointers ??
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 12, 2017, 04:37:56 pm
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Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 12, 2017, 04:38:28 pm
Will have to change photo type to get them on here.
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Splash & dash on February 12, 2017, 05:02:43 pm
Ok thanks Ime intrested to see what it's like , does the hose pull through yours easier than the blue rollers ?
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Caleb Morley on February 12, 2017, 05:38:18 pm
Thanks for the further info lads and lasses.
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 12, 2017, 07:07:21 pm
Miles better than the blue ones, miles and miles. Guess what miles better lol.

My blue ones lasted nearly 2 years until i pulled one day and the hose just jammed up and nearly pulled me over! So decided on making something from scratch.

I just need to do a couple of fine adjustments and then they are perfect. It only effects one powered reel, the other powered reel is fine. £1500 reel vs £400 reel :)
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Frankybadboy on February 12, 2017, 07:44:04 pm
buy a new van where you can lock the front up and keep the back doors open simple really
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Jonny 87 on February 15, 2017, 06:44:54 pm
buy a new van where you can lock the front up and keep the back doors open simple really

Not really.

A 47foot extreme could be taken out in seconds and that's best part of £1000 gone.
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Jonny 87 on February 15, 2017, 06:47:07 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1487184312_IMG_1193.JPG)

These are about 3 months old now, constant hammering 5/6 days a week with a powerup reel.

I've just cleaned and oiled them up and they are like new.

Only thing I can think is that I'm not passing any metal through, it's just the hose with a protects ball on the end so is this why mine are staying in such good condition?

Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Clever Forum Name on February 15, 2017, 08:50:10 pm
Metal has got nothing to do with it ;)

If you pull the hose to the sides you will
Notice the black plastic rubs on the blue metal. Give it time and it will look a complete mess :(
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: G & M on February 15, 2017, 08:55:09 pm
What kind of hose is the blue hose?
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: p1w1 on February 15, 2017, 08:58:07 pm
Those blue rollers aren't fit to pull a strand of cotton through them never mind hosepipe.
Title: Re: Anyone pass their hose through the van floor?
Post by: Jonny 87 on February 16, 2017, 07:26:41 am
Metal has got nothing to do with it ;)

If you pull the hose to the sides you will
Notice the black plastic rubs on the blue metal. Give it time and it will look a complete mess :(

Ah ok. I see what you mean.

Doh.

 :)