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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: David Beecroft on February 01, 2017, 10:34:28 pm
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Which would you recommend for my 3 poles?
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No such thing as an aquadaptor anymore. Was discontinued.
Do you mean aquatap?
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Is Aquatap the same idea as Univalve? if so which is best?
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univalve all the way - Aquatap good but stresses the clamps if not maintained weekly with grease as it tightens up
i believe gardeners now do a version of aquatap - but i foresee the same problems i think alex would have been better joining up with steve and doing a univalve/gardiners project
Darran
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Univalve...I've not tried any thing else as in my eyes the univalve would be hard to beat so no need too ;)
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univalve all the way - Aquatap good but stresses the clamps if not maintained weekly with grease as it tightens up
i believe gardeners now do a version of aquatap - but i foresee the same problems i think alex would have been better joining up with steve and doing a univalve/gardiners project
Darran
Hi Darran
Nice to see you posting again. :)
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Had all my poles fitted with univalve last month I was using a tap before. I paid £20 each though I did spend £800 with The Cleaning Warehouse so got them for £10 cheaper! So far so good!
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univalve if far beta
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Univalve has my vote
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I still use a tap, never faulted it and so not fully interested in either
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univalves are just the best.very small and lightweight and mine have done their job great (up to now).no other flow control comes close really for ease of use.highly recommended. :)
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Had univalve from day one, love them
Loved aquadapter also
Also steves designs. Everything he thinks up works really well. Still got one of his poles. Clamps are ace. Never had to adjust them
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Nathen trust me if you fitted a univalve you would never look back
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;D
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ive used a tap under my brush head for 2 years, just realised how to stop the mesh inside from wearing out with pole hose in it. had around 10 from gardiners to keep replacing them. i got univalve fitted last week, now i dont need to drop pole sections to turn tap off. now i can leave it extended and just turn water flow off instantly. Hope it lasts
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Univalves are the best by far IMO. I have actually just had to replace one, think the spring must have went as I couldn't shut the water off. Not complaining tho, if I can get 13 months out of them I am more than happy at that.
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Univalve
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ive used a tap under my brush head for 2 years, just realised how to stop the mesh inside from wearing out with pole hose in it. had around 10 from gardiners to keep replacing them. i got univalve fitted last week, now i dont need to drop pole sections to turn tap off. now i can leave it extended and just turn water flow off instantly. Hope it lasts
Why have the tap under the brush??
I have my tap fitted to the end of my main hose, permanently. The other side of the tap is a female rectus 21. End of pole hose the matching male part. Then via an holster which is on my belt, my main hose with tap connects to my side, so i walk n my hose follows, so tap doesnt scrape on floor. My pole hose connected, so like either a univalve or aquadapter, all im carrying is my pole. Rather than keeping brush on window to tug at my hose or twisting my pole, all i do is hold pole in one hand and turn tap on or off.
Personally i cant see how either of these can be better for my liking and my tap has lasted nearly 2 yrs since switching to wfp. So its cheaper and lasting longer. ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1486094386_Screenshot_2017-02-03-03-38-17.png)
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To each their own. I couldn't have that round my waste all day with the weight of a hose hanging off of it.
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I agree Jamie . I used to have tap on a belt holder set up.it was so annoying. Since using univalve I am definitely less stressed .
Tris
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Haha, i view like an excercise as if its doing me some good, probably isnt but heyho ;D
But certainly, its whatever works per person inorder for us to make our millions
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Uni valve on all 10 poles , Over a year old on all them. I'm guessing they'll all break at once ..LOL
Very happy although I do still tend to fold the hose as I'm working, old habits die hard
I've never used anything else as I never liked the original aqua adoptor as didn't like the length or weigh it added and was happy with bending hose, had worked this way for over 20 years
But I wanted to use the exceed tubeless kit so thought I'd give them a go really pleased
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Uni valve on all 10 poles , Over a year old on all them. I'm guessing they'll all break at once ..LOL
Very happy although I do still tend to fold the hose as I'm working, old habits die hard
I've never used anything else as I never liked the original aqua adoptor as didn't like the length or weigh it added and was happy with bending hose, had worked this way for over 20 years
But I wanted to use the exceed tubeless kit so thought I'd give them a go really pleased
how did you find them this winter for freezeing up ?
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I've had a brass tap strapped to the pole when I first started. Then I 'progressed' to the Gardiner pole tap which I held in my hand with a loop of pole hose, switched it on /off with my thumb, simple as you can get! But found the loop slightly annoying at times. ( Can never understand why anyone would put a pole tap by the brush head ???)
But, like the idea of the Univalve and tubeless set-up. Converted both my poles when the univalve came out and am extremely pleased. I cannot see how to make it any better. No loop of hose, a simple pull on/off.
Get the Univalve fella, you'll be impressed.
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Univalve...I've not tried any thing else as in my eyes the univalve would be hard to beat so no need too ;)
I agree totally.
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I might be over thinking this...... (genuinely asking)
I like the tap valve and holster at my side so when i walk off to next house all im carrying is my pole and pole hose. As in no bending down trying to pick main hose up so connections dont damage scraping on floor etc. I understand how, once at the house, how quick the univalve will alow you to work...........but if like me cleaning house after house on one street, do you just drag your main hose with you via pulling the pole hose or do you have to scoop main hose up after the job to carry the hose in one hand to the next job??
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You can just drag the whole lot sometimes if it doesn't feel too weighty! But at times, when I've got 30m+ out, I just loop up the pole hose into my hand until I reach the microbore then haul it round, especially corners over distance. That's all. No big deal. Then once I'm round a corner, drop it and off I go again.
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I think I understand your point Nathan. When you have a tap in the hose you either have to drag it along the floor which I can imagine is a right pain as it would surely snag, or you keep it in your hand or fix it to your belt with a holster. That would leave a loop of pole hose when working with your pole collapsed. I didnt find this too annoying (i worked with a trigger attached to my pole for seven years) and kinda got used to it. But like you say if you pick up your pole hose and carry it between houses you are not trailing it so it can't snag on anything.
Having said all that, if you fit a univalve in your pole you have no loop of hose big enough to snag on anything. It is possible to unintentionally activate the valve if you are pulling a lot of hose behind you, say micro or minibore as it can be quite heavy. however, this can be addressed by taking hold of the hose an arms length from the bottom of the pole and keeping it in your fingers as you carry your pole to the next job, this way the weight of the hose is carried by your fingers instead of pulling on the valve.
I was sceptical about it but as I've said before, I felt like a dog let of it's leash when I put a univalve in my pole. I originally combined it with exceeds tubeless kit which was good but now I prefer the simplicity of using a JG connector at the base of the pole thus
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/milkman2912/tubeless_01.jpg)
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Uni valve on all 10 poles , Over a year old on all them. I'm guessing they'll all break at once ..LOL
Very happy although I do still tend to fold the hose as I'm working, old habits die hard
I've never used anything else as I never liked the original aqua adoptor as didn't like the length or weigh it added and was happy with bending hose, had worked this way for over 20 years
But I wanted to use the exceed tubeless kit so thought I'd give them a go really pleased
how did you find them this winter for freezeing up ?
Hi Susan
Not an issue,
i use the tubeless kit from exceed so when I disconnect I make sure I tug off then pull to disconnect which leave the valve open (so can be a double movement). But it means valve is open shake pole and all water drains out of valve and pole -8 to -9 couple times not frozen
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Uni valve on all 10 poles , Over a year old on all them. I'm guessing they'll all break at once ..LOL
Very happy although I do still tend to fold the hose as I'm working, old habits die hard
I've never used anything else as I never liked the original aqua adoptor as didn't like the length or weigh it added and was happy with bending hose, had worked this way for over 20 years
But I wanted to use the exceed tubeless kit so thought I'd give them a go really pleased
how did you find them this winter for freezeing up ?
Hi Susan
Not an issue,
i use the tubeless kit from exceed so when I disconnect I make sure I tug off then pull to disconnect which leave the valve open (so can be a double movement). But it means valve is open shake pole and all water drains out of valve and pole -8 to -9 couple times not frozen
I forgot to open one of mine one night and it did freeze but it worked fine once I thawed it out. However, I haven't done it since. I didn't want to take the chance on splitting it.
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You can just drag the whole lot sometimes if it doesn't feel too weighty! But at times, when I've got 30m+ out, I just loop up the pole hose into my hand until I reach the microbore then haul it round, especially corners over distance. That's all. No big deal. Then once I'm round a corner, drop it and off I go again.
+1
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Swings n roundabouts then........for me that sounds like a faff. I dont mind my pole holse connected on a holster. I use 2 holsters so my main hose is wrapped round back of my wsist, so my main hose is always trailing behind me, so all im carrying is my pole.
However the only faff i have is first connecting all upto my holsters, but saying that, once thats done at begining of day, i may only take it off once or twice pending which round it was. So if i was only doing the odd houses here n there than it would be a different story n can see the many advantages of the univalve instead
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Swings n roundabouts then........for me that sounds like a faff. I dont mind my pole holse connected on a holster. I use 2 holsters so my main hose is wrapped round back of my wsist, so my main hose is always trailing behind me, so all im carrying is my pole.
However the only faff i have is first connecting all upto my holsters, but saying that, once thats done at begining of day, i may only take it off once or twice pending which round it was. So if i was only doing the odd houses here n there than it would be a different story n can see the many advantages of the univalve instead
what all this holster thing ? " is that you john wayne ? "
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What pole hose do you guys use with the uni value ? I'm getting fed up with the yellow pole hose from gardiners because In the winter it's coils up and a pain to work with .
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What pole hose do you guys use with the uni value ? I'm getting fed up with the yellow pole hose from gardiners because In the winter it's coils up and a pain to work with .
I find i have that problem. I used to use unger green reinforced hise but my supplier discontinued it and had no choice but to use the yellow.
However now i stick 2 500w fish tank heaters in my 500ltr tank over night. Gets the water between 30 n 40 degrees c. Its enough to soften the hoses which is great.
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Then when it gets cold it's worst lol I use hot water but only really when I need too . I don't really want to use hot water just to soften the yellow hose . I'm using a gardiners tap push fit ones cable tide and taped with electrical tape. And have worked like that for years . But since I've had a back problem I'm thinking uni value would be better . Expecially when cleaning a window over the top over a conservatory. To much of a pain turning a tap of when scrubbing then turning it back on to rinse . Yes I understand we can just leave water going but I dont like to waste to much water.
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Then when it gets cold it's worst lol I use hot water but only really when I need too . I don't really want to use hot water just to soften the yellow hose . I'm using a gardiners tap push fit ones cable tide and taped with electrical tape. And have worked like that for years . But since I've had a back problem I'm thinking uni value would be better . Expecially when cleaning a window over the top over a conservatory. To much of a pain turning a tap of when scrubbing then turning it back on to rinse . Yes I understand we can just leave water going but I dont like to waste to much water.
Don't see how a uni valve would help with a back problem if anything it would make things worse, faffing about with one hand
yanking your pole hose while trying to hold the pole with the other. no thanks.
Pole end supported against my leg or body leaves me one hand free to switch of a tap, you cant get any easier.
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I use the gardiner tap valves and a tap holster which fits on my belt. (Posted a pic on a post above) so its really easy, hold pole with one hand, reach down to side to flip valve.
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Then when it gets cold it's worst lol I use hot water but only really when I need too . I don't really want to use hot water just to soften the yellow hose . I'm using a gardiners tap push fit ones cable tide and taped with electrical tape. And have worked like that for years . But since I've had a back problem I'm thinking uni value would be better . Expecially when cleaning a window over the top over a conservatory. To much of a pain turning a tap of when scrubbing then turning it back on to rinse . Yes I understand we can just leave water going but I dont like to waste to much water.
Don't see how a uni valve would help with a back problem if anything it would make things worse, faffing about with one hand
yanking your pole hose while trying to hold the pole with the other. no thanks.
Pole end supported against my leg or body leaves me one hand free to switch of a tap, you cant get any easier.
Yes you can, using the univalve is a doddle. I turn the water off whilst my brush head is on the window sill or frame, absolutely no need to have the pole supported by your leg or body when turning the water on/off.
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Then when it gets cold it's worst lol I use hot water but only really when I need too . I don't really want to use hot water just to soften the yellow hose . I'm using a gardiners tap push fit ones cable tide and taped with electrical tape. And have worked like that for years . But since I've had a back problem I'm thinking uni value would be better . Expecially when cleaning a window over the top over a conservatory. To much of a pain turning a tap of when scrubbing then turning it back on to rinse . Yes I understand we can just leave water going but I dont like to waste to much water.
Don't see how a uni valve would help with a back problem if anything it would make things worse, faffing about with one hand
yanking your pole hose while trying to hold the pole with the other. no thanks.
Pole end supported against my leg or body leaves me one hand free to switch of a tap, you cant get any easier.
Yes you can, using the univalve is a doddle. I turn the water off whilst my brush head is on the window sill or frame, absolutely no need to have the pole supported by your leg or body when turning the water on/off.
Each to their own, I prefer my brush slightly above the sill and not touching the glass when turning my water off, but using
your method surly the aqua tap or Gardiners similar twist device would be a better option as you don't need to remove your
hands at all.
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just another question regarding univalve. Does the pole length effect the operation of the valve, would it work just as easily on my 45ft brush fully extended as the brush fully closed?
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I have uni valve on the extreme 47 no issues at all
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That's good to know, thanks.
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So pole extended cleaning window above conservatory using uni value how are you able to keep both hands on the pole when tugging the hose ? Or can In some cases like this you put your foot on the hose and push the push the pole towards the window to turn on and off ? What hose do you guys recommend for the uni valve ?
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So pole extended cleaning window above conservatory using uni value how are you able to keep both hands on the pole when tugging the hose ? Or can In some cases like this you put your foot on the hose and push the push the pole towards the window to turn on and off ? What hose do you guys recommend for the uni valve ?
rest brush on window sill and tug or switch it on befoure extending
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With a gardiners push fit tap fitted to the pole cable ties and electrical tape I can clean the window above the conservatorywith both hands on the pole and use my index finger to turn the switch on and off . So I don't need to rest my brush on the sill whilst turning water off and on. I can turn the water off with brush off the glass. Saving time and Water. I understand the loop is a pain . The only way I can see it working for me is I see someone can't think of the name of the member of the top of my head had this yellow pole bung with grooves in it. Holding the pole with hose looped round hand sliding hand up and down the pole to tug the hose to turn it on and off . I think I'm going to give the uni valve a go . I like to have both hands on the pole when cleaning .
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just another question regarding univalve. Does the pole length effect the operation of the valve, would it work just as easily on my 45ft brush fully extended as the brush fully closed?
The Univalve fits in the top section of the pole, so when you connect to the tubeless set-up, your pole hose travels up the inside of the pole as it's extended upto whatever height. Then you pull on /off.
As for hose, the Gardiner pu green hose is good, as is the Exceed blue hose.
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With a gardiners push fit tap fitted to the pole cable ties and electrical tape I can clean the window above the conservatorywith both hands on the pole and use my index finger to turn the switch on and off . So I don't need to rest my brush on the sill whilst turning water off and on. I can turn the water off with brush off the glass. Saving time and Water. I understand the loop is a pain . The only way I can see it working for me is I see someone can't think of the name of the member of the top of my head had this yellow pole bung with grooves in it. Holding the pole with hose looped round hand sliding hand up and down the pole to tug the hose to turn it on and off . I think I'm going to give the uni valve a go . I like to have both hands on the pole when cleaning .
Jay would this not suit your needs better,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oIiC7O0_l8
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Ok, so as posted on another thread, today i received my slx25 pole and its a great pole. But i also bumped into a friend who not long back replaced his inherited poles with the clx range (tho why he didnt go carbon i dont kno). Then he asked if i got the on/off gooseneck with it. Obviously i said no as i really like the valve tap setup i have. But i had a go of his and it got me thinking all day. So ive ordered one from gardiner but for my now spare pole thats a purefreedom v2 carbon pole, im using that with my backpack. Thinking of trying an aquadapter on it. As i dont want to tugg on hose. But whenever i do a search for it, it only comes up with the uni valve. Are aquadapters still on market? Has anyo e got a link to one please?
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Ok, so as posted on another thread, today i received my slx25 pole and its a great pole. But i also bumped into a friend who not long back replaced his inherited poles with the clx range (tho why he didnt go carbon i dont kno). Then he asked if i got the on/off gooseneck with it. Obviously i said no as i really like the valve tap setup i have. But i had a go of his and it got me thinking all day. So ive ordered one from gardiner but for my now spare pole thats a purefreedom v2 carbon pole, im using that with my backpack. Thinking of trying an aquadapter on it. As i dont want to tugg on hose. But whenever i do a search for it, it only comes up with the uni valve. Are aquadapters still on market? Has anyo e got a link to one please?
you have to.tug on hose with aquadapter...
No way would I go from a univalve to aquadapter they don't sell them anymore I don't think I may have one kicking about somewhere actually ;D
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Ok, so as posted on another thread, today i received my slx25 pole and its a great pole. But i also bumped into a friend who not long back replaced his inherited poles with the clx range (tho why he didnt go carbon i dont kno). Then he asked if i got the on/off gooseneck with it. Obviously i said no as i really like the valve tap setup i have. But i had a go of his and it got me thinking all day. So ive ordered one from gardiner but for my now spare pole thats a purefreedom v2 carbon pole, im using that with my backpack. Thinking of trying an aquadapter on it. As i dont want to tugg on hose. But whenever i do a search for it, it only comes up with the uni valve. Are aquadapters still on market? Has anyo e got a link to one please?
you have to.tug on hose with aquadapter...
No way would I go from a univalve to aquadapter they don't sell them anymore I don't think I may have one kicking about somewhere actually ;D
Is it only gardiner goosenecks which have the twist on/off feature then? I would have ordered two but all my spare brushes dont have the quick connect hole like the gardiner brushes do
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got two univalve today they seem good , easyer to pull on and off then the a.d. but we will miss the wheel will be road testing them tomorrow
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Ok, so as posted on another thread, today i received my slx25 pole and its a great pole. But i also bumped into a friend who not long back replaced his inherited poles with the clx range (tho why he didnt go carbon i dont kno). Then he asked if i got the on/off gooseneck with it. Obviously i said no as i really like the valve tap setup i have. But i had a go of his and it got me thinking all day. So ive ordered one from gardiner but for my now spare pole thats a purefreedom v2 carbon pole, im using that with my backpack. Thinking of trying an aquadapter on it. As i dont want to tugg on hose. But whenever i do a search for it, it only comes up with the uni valve. Are aquadapters still on market? Has anyo e got a link to one please?
you have to.tug on hose with aquadapter...
No way would I go from a univalve to aquadapter they don't sell them anymore I don't think I may have one kicking about somewhere actually ;D
Is it only gardiner goosenecks which have the twist on/off feature then? I would have ordered two but all my spare brushes dont have the quick connect hole like the gardiner brushes do
For your pure freedom pole google Aqua tap, for your brushes with the German thread connectors you can get a
quick loc brush adaptor.
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Taps are ok ish i suppose
Kinking the hose - lol but ghetto and poo
Aquatap was crap
far too lose, tighten it up and far too tight, stupid contraption
Aquadpter was great but too heavy - univalve is amazing