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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Hard Floor Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Richard iSparkle on March 23, 2015, 09:31:26 pm
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doing a quote on thursday for a client who has spilt a bottle of olive oil on her block paving. any suggestions how to get it off?
should i use a chemical?
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I am sure Tadgh can advise you
Kevin
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I am sure Tadgh can advise you
Kevin
Yes i can but as we are not paying for advertising at the moment it would not be fair to promote our products, we will resume advertising again over the next few weeks.
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Just let the guy have your e mail address then
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Just let the guy have your e mail address then
Kevin, as far as i am aware you are the only member on this forum who wants to answer queries by email.
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Just let the guy have your e mail address then
Kevin, as far as i am aware you are the only member on this forum who wants to answer queries by email.
Tadgh
No I have been forced into this method because of constant criticism of my tried and tested methods. So it is easier to reply to members direct. Just tell the guy how to do it and then say what you use to do it explaining your methods and how it works. Nobody will accuse you of selling your products you are helping a forum member. ;D
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Just let the guy have your e mail address then
Kevin, as far as i am aware you are the only member on this forum who wants to answer queries by email.
Tadgh
No I have been forced into this method because of constant criticism of my tried and tested methods. So it is easier to reply to members direct. Just tell the guy how to do it and then say what you use to do it explaining your methods and how it works. Nobody will accuse you of selling your products you are helping a forum member. ;D
Kevin, you know and i know your statement about being criticized is aimed at me, a newbie comes on here asking for a solution on how to deep clean an altro safety floor as usual you recommend aqua mix heavy duty tile and grout cleaner one of the most aggressive floor cleaners out there which is laced with sodium hydroxide very corrosive indeed and will cause chemical burning to that surface, i remember many years ago when i was a newbie i was given the same advice by suppliers which i took on faith as in those days there were no safer alternatives available, with todays advancements in cleaning technologies there is no need to use harsh high alkaline chemicals based on sodium metasilicate or sodium hydroxide which cause detrimental damage to surfaces. I am happy to share my experiences of using these harsh and aggressive chemicals over the years and point out how damaging they are, if some guys are glad to take this advice onboard happy days, i have noticed that you are no longer promoting aqua mix heavy duty tile and grout cleaner so hopefully Kevin you are one of the guys who have taken my advice onboard.
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Kevin,
you know and i know your statement about being criticized is aimed at me
Tadgh
You are paranoid sunshine!! By your own admission you have zero experience of restoring natural stone. No I have not taken your advice on HDT&G Cleaner and neither will I. Ultimately you are wrong regarding natural stone but am I going to get into that with you either because your experience is limited to cleaning not restoration and sealing of natural stone. When you are able to restore Natural Stone then I may enter into dialogue with you but until then I will not. Finally FYI Aqua Mix is no longer available in Europe so that is the reason it is not promoted.
I will e mail the guy and tell him how to get the olive oil out of block paving which by the way does not involve High Alkaline in any way!
Kevin
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doing a quote on thursday for a client who has spilt a bottle of olive oil on her block paving. any suggestions how to get it off?
should i use a chemical?
Send me an e mail and I will explain the best way to do it in my experience. You will also get lots of advice on the General Cleaning Forum.
tilinglogistics@hotmail.com
Kevin
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Kevin,
you know and i know your statement about being criticized is aimed at me
Tadgh
You are paranoid sunshine!! By your own admission you have zero experience of restoring natural stone. No I have not taken your advice on HDT&G Cleaner and neither will I. Ultimately you are wrong regarding natural stone but am I going to get into that with you either because your experience is limited to cleaning not restoration and sealing of natural stone. When you are able to restore Natural Stone then I may enter into dialogue with you but until then I will not. Finally FYI Aqua Mix is no longer available in Europe so that is the reason it is not promoted.
I will e mail the guy and tell him how to get the olive oil out of block paving which by the way does not involve High Alkaline in any way!
Kevin
Kevin, if you were knowledgeable about cleaning floors you should not be recommending products that contain sodium hydroxide for cleaning safety floors as they will chemically burn that surface, can you stand over recommending such a corrosive product for cleaning those type floors, i wonder why Aqua mix heavy duty tile and grout cleaner is no longer available in Europe.
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Tadgh
Yet again selective reading!!!! Read the post!!! "AQUA MIX PRODUCTS ARE NO LONGER IMPORTED IN EUROPE" We now sell and advocate Miracle Products and I manufacture my own range! PSRP (Professional Surface Restoration Products) which includes X-TREME HDT&G Cleaner pH 13/14 High Alkaline ;D ;D ;D
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I will e mail the guy and tell him how to get the olive oil out of block paving which by the way does not involve High Alkaline in any way!
Is it a slice of ciabatta used as a poultice?
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Is it a slice of ciabatta used as a poultice?
LOL combined with the new bruschetta cleaning pads should bring it up a treat!
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I will e mail the guy and tell him how to get the olive oil out of block paving which by the way does not involve High Alkaline in any way!
Is it a slice of ciabatta used as a poultice?
Jamie
Good Idea as long as we grind it back to flour first ;D ;D ;D
Or simply use Miracle A& B Liquid Poultice
Kev
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Tadgh
Yet again selective reading!!!! Read the post!!! "AQUA MIX PRODUCTS ARE NO LONGER IMPORTED IN EUROPE" We now sell and advocate Miracle Products and I manufacture my own range! PSRP (Professional Surface Restoration Products) which includes X-TREME HDT&G Cleaner pH 13/14 High Alkaline ;D ;D ;D
Kevin, you would make a great politican indeed avoiding the question because you can't admit that i am right, but that is fine i can understand why.
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Kevin, you would make a great politican indeed avoiding the question because you can't admit that i am right, but that is fine i can understand why.
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If I admit your right will you promise to sod off with your mop. Buckets, microfiber cloths and eco chemicals and leave me to deal with the real stuff? ;D :D ;D
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Kevin, you would make a great politican indeed avoiding the question because you can't admit that i am right, but that is fine i can understand why.
If I admit your right will you promise to sod off with your mop. Buckets, microfiber cloths and eco chemicals and leave me to deal with the real stuff? ;D :D ;D
[/quote] Kevin, you know i have admitted to using high alkaline based products for many years and caused much damage to surfaces especially ones containing sodium hydroxide, so i am sure you can understand why i try to warn guys not to use it on the likes of Altro safety flooring, so now there is my rant over. let me know when you need tickets to a good hurling match and i will organize them and even go with you.
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I know Kevin sometimes the truth hurts.
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I know Kevin sometimes the truth hurts.
Christ your answering your own posts now ;D ;D ;D
Had a wee drink probably looking at the time of the post ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll
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No Kevin, didn't have a drop just thought you would Man up and admit that you should not use a product containing sodium hydroxide when deep cleaning altro safety flooring.
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you keep going on and on about what damage chemicals can do to floors but as you well know this would be for complete continuous use or in other words as a daily cleaner the only other way it can damage is lack of common sense or knowledge and judging by what your saying in other posts this is what you have experienced in the past
So from that let me ask you a question if say someone uses a harsh chemical in a educated way will they damage the floor ? And also presuming there are not using it continuously
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Tony, Just stop trying to twist things, this goes back to your father recommending a product which contains sodium hydroxide for deep cleaning Altro safety flooring. if ye are happy to stand over that recommendation well that is where i am going to leave it.
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Tony, Just stop trying to twist things, this goes back to your father recommending a product which contains sodium hydroxide for deep cleaning Altro safety flooring. if ye are happy to stand over that recommendation well that is where i am going to leave it.
Pity you don't leave it then isn't it because I have been cleaning an altro floor for a client for the last 8 years as an add on to his important stuff and the Floor is immaculate with no damage because we know what we are doing with High Alkaline Cleaners. We understand the correct dwell time and to rinse afterwards thoroughly with a pH neutral cleaner. I have no problem at all with it. The only person who has a problem is you but you don't matter they do because they pay us for a great job and they are the only people I have to make happy.
Kevin
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Tony, Just stop trying to twist things, this goes back to your father recommending a product which contains sodium hydroxide for deep cleaning Altro safety flooring. if ye are happy to stand over that recommendation well that is where i am going to leave it.
Pity you don't leave it then isn't it because I have been cleaning an altro floor for a client for the last 8 years as an add on to his important stuff and the Floor is immaculate with no damage because we know what we are doing with High Alkaline Cleaners. We understand the correct dwell time and to rinse afterwards thoroughly with a pH neutral cleaner. I have no problem at all with it. The only person who has a problem is you but you don't matter they do because they pay us for a great job and they are the only people I have to make happy.
Kevin
Kevin if you knew what you were talking about using a pH neutral cleaner after using a high alkaline based chemical based on sodium hydroxide will not neutralize the floor as you would need to use an acid based cleaner to achieve neutral results, and you don't have to worry about me as i am very happy indeed. I will share with you again Kevin you should never use sodium hydroxide based chemicals to deep clean Altro flooring because they are so corrosive and do end up chemically burning the surface, how you can tell is they leave a yellow staining behind and this detrimental damage can't be reversed, hope you may find this information to be of benefit.
Kind regards
Tadgh
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Kevin, i am so confident that if you have been cleaning a clients Altro safety floor for the past eight years with Aqua mix heavy duty tile and grout cleaner one of the most aggressive hard floor cleaners available on the market and you are trying to tell me there is no chemical burning on their floor, well if you can prove that i will be happy to put my hand up and apologize and no longer be a member on this forum. Bring it on prove it and i will follow through on leaving this forum with my tail between my legs.
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You have hijacked someone else's thread over another floor which has nothing to do with the subject matter how very professional
And I aske you a question you did not answer it
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You have hijacked someone else's thread over another floor which has nothing to do with the subject matter how very professional
And I aske you a question you did not answer it
Tony that is bullpoop, who is the person that recommended to use a product which is so aggressive that it should never be used on an Altro safety floor because sodium hydroxide can and will chemically burn this surface, If you need to see the proof for yourself Tony here is what you do, take your fathers recommendation for Aqua mix heavy duty tile and grout cleaner which is usually 3 or 4 to 1 with water allow 10 - 15 minutes dwell time and then scrub with a soft to medium brush, take a piece of altro safety flooring carry out the above recommendation and watch what happens , now Tony i rest my case.
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Kevin, i am so confident that if you have been cleaning a clients Altro safety floor for the past eight years with Aqua mix heavy duty tile and grout cleaner one of the most aggressive hard floor cleaners available on the market and you are trying to tell me there is no chemical burning on their floor, well if you can prove that i will be happy to put my hand up and apologize and no longer be a member on this forum. Bring it on prove it and i will follow through on leaving this forum with my tail between my legs.
You keep banging on about the same thing over and over again " Aqua Mix HDT&G" Why I have no idea? Firstly cleaning of soft flooring is a very very minor part of what we do! I leave the janitorial side of cleaning to others. We are primarily Natural Stone Restoration Specialists. We only get involved in the Mrs Mop side of things if a major client asks us to do it as a part of the whole project attached to the important stuff we do. In the main we leave this sort of work to others. That said for one important client we have cleaned their Altro Stronghold 30 Flooring in their heavy use kitchens for 8 years. We use High Alkaline then neutralise with pH Neutral then use Hone 800 and rinse and it is perfect with zero signs of yellowing. I have one of my trade customers who only does this type of flooring day in and day out and he uses the same method with no signs of yellowing! No one wants you to leave the forum least of all me! It is me who is leaving! You do what you like!