Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Carpet Master on January 25, 2015, 10:24:00 pm
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This guy has a simplistic view on carpet cleaning. He is always very busy. Only uses Powerburst and rinses off with clear water. His machine cost £700 which he renews every year.
https://www.facebook.com/BurtonandSons2013
Why invest £'s when pennies will do....
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he must be on hours cleaning with that thing , >:(
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"Some other companies keep stating that you get what you pay for . At Burton and Sons we like to prove them wrong. Just because they charge stupid amounts of money it does not mean they do a better job and that's a fact , I have been informed from a great many customers that our work is just as good and often better than our over charging competitors ! I think it's probably a case of sour grapes. They seem jealous because we are always busy. Long may it continue !! All Of The Quality For Half Of The Price !!"
Let him crack on.
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"Some other companies keep stating that you get what you pay for . At Burton and Sons we like to prove them wrong. Just because they charge stupid amounts of money it does not mean they do a better job and that's a fact , I have been informed from a great many customers that our work is just as good and often better than our over charging competitors ! I think it's probably a case of sour grapes. They seem jealous because we are always busy. Long may it continue !! All Of The Quality For Half Of The Price !!"
Let him crack on.
Well I'm certainly jealous, I wish I could be busy cleaning full 3 bed houses for £65 or even through lounges at £30 ::)roll ::)roll.
But From his photos he gets good results so good luck to him, there's many ways to earn a living in this game.
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And he gets a minging Carpet Dry in an hour
I could speed up if i did one pass and the Carpet became Clean
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he must be feeling the pinch though, all his prices have gone up for 2015! £3 more now for a 2 bed house!
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he must be feeling the pinch though, all his prices have gone up for 2015! £3 more now for a 2 bed house!
Probably, but he is also advertising for more staff. He earns more than you think with low operating costs. Who's the smart one, him or you?
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How do you know what he earns or the size of his operating cost?
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Because I've inboxed him on facebook and asked about his business model, also reading nearly all of his and his customer's posts you get a good idea what he's up to.
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with over 3.6k likes he may have very good income.
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Likes mean nothing really. I've got over 1500 on our German Facebook, and they were in on the first week. There are ways of doing that for free. However, pretty impressive pics on there, and loving the equipment :D I've liked the page, and want to watch how he goes. His prices make me glad I don't live in UK though. :o
Good luck to the guy.
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he isnt VAT registered so if he has staff he isnt earning alot in a legitimate way without being VAT registered cos with staff and big takings equals VAT threshold
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that actually true with likes, you can buy them
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if you see his website he has false pictures - those pictures are done with a 'proper' wand, not the plastic one he has
also he says he steam cleans - but as far as i am aware that machine has not heat so can't acheive high temps
seems like some of you are being falsely tempted into the cheapo route - surprising what false marketing can achieve even when marketed to an 'educated' audience
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that actually true with likes, you can buy them
Yes, if you want to throw money at it. Mine were free though.
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would prefer to invest 50 euros in marketing to get 100 euro job then facebook and work for 50 euros for the same job as my 100 euro customer next time will give me clear 100 euros, the guy on facebook will have only 50 again.
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Fair enough
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wondering, are those guys (nearly every month somebody talks here about some cheapos) know that hundrets othere cc read about them :) ???
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ok back to reality lads.
I don't know this guy and I don't care how many likes he has, but i can GUARANTEE you if he is charging them prices he'll not be making that much. He probably makes 600 - 800 (on a good week and he'll have to work like a dog for that) and thinks he's Richard Brandson.
I'd love to see his face when he gets a van repair bill.
Going through his pics it looks like he's always cleaning cheap polys, no wonder he gets ok results with that heap of junk. My customers would send him packing if he introduced himself with that thing.
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This is the guy I mentioned a few months ago,
I was giving the customer a quote at her house, to which she replied She has a quote already and will come from Doncaster for to Hull for £20 to clean her lounge ::)roll bearing in mind getting into Hull alone from just the outskirts can take an hour > yes I guess he is making plenty on that job.
Geoff
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The guy really doesn't get it does he. As soon as you start selling on price you get more and more people who further object to the already cheap price. He will be a carpet cleaner to the dregs of society.
Is it better in terms of fuel economy, chems and time to win 2 jobs out of 10 for a price of £500 or win all 10 totaling the same price? He won't understand this because he is clearly thick.
Your not in the margin game like a large manufacturer, so forget that concept. Your in the service industry where people buy trust, quality, reliability and likeability. You won't get more work charging less, you just open up a different sector of clients, that being - filthy poor dregs living in slum like conditions.
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if you see his website he has false pictures - those pictures are done with a 'proper' wand, not the plastic one he has
also he says he steam cleans - but as far as i am aware that machine has not heat so can't acheive high temps
seems like some of you are being falsely tempted into the cheapo route - surprising what false marketing can achieve even when marketed to an 'educated' audience
you can see he has left a very wet edge on his wand strokes ,the carpet will be wet ???
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The guy really doesn't get it does he. As soon as you start selling on price you get more and more people who further object to the already cheap price. He will be a carpet cleaner to the dregs of society.
Is it better in terms of fuel economy, chems and time to win 2 jobs out of 10 for a price of £500 or win all 10 totaling the same price? He won't understand this because he is clearly thick.
Your not in the margin game like a large manufacturer, so forget that concept. Your in the service industry where people buy trust, quality, reliability and likeability. You won't get more work charging less, you just open up a different sector of clients, that being - filthy poor dregs living in slum like conditions.
good post.
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(I assume) He's not on benefits, he's not claiming welfare, he's putting a shift in.
If he's making a living with out ripping people off in the process, who cares.
His customers appear happy enough in the main and will not be calling you, as they are not your target market.
Good luck to him.
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will not be calling you, as they are not your target market.
very common explanation, but who they would call if not him doing his cheap business ???
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somebody else at the price price
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somebody else at the price price
if no such a business around?
had many customers complaining on the price but they could not find anyone much cheaper even there is many on half of the price. So not every customer is so despetate to save few euros and if theres noone else they can call they will call you.
Those cowboys only does not bother very expensive guys but bother most of average carpet cleaners.
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It is a good job that we all do not buy on price or we would be cleaning nothing but polypropylene loop pile felt backs. That is not the case. One only has to feel the quality of the wand that that machine is supplied with to realize that it is not a quality professional machine. This guy obvious has not been trained and knows no better why even consider what these people are up to, if he knew what he was doing and was busy he would be using better more productive equipment.
I have a guy in our local who uses a rug doctor, charges Twenty quid to do a lounge diner and thinks he`s in the same industry as me.
Peter
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Read a article a while back about average price supermarkets (Tesco) being squeezed by the discount brands (aldi)
But the discount brands are not affecting the likes of Waitrose. Only trouble is there is not that many high end customers to keep every carpet cleaner busy.
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Hmmmm.... did the guy ask for criticism of his business model??
If it works for him, great... if it doesn't he will change... I am sure that he really does not care what anyone on here thinks, just as you should be concentrating on your business and not his.....
As has been said, his customers are not likely to be your customers. There are customers at all ends of the market... Maybe he likes the challenge of the minging polyprops and the job satisfaction of making them clean?
If he does a very good job and decides to raise his prices to what ~"you" think he should be charging, then you would be the first to whinge that he is taking your customers...
There is room out there for all types and price ranges... leave the guy alone.... ;D
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ok back to reality lads.
I don't know this guy and I don't care how many likes he has, but i can GUARANTEE you if he is charging them prices he'll not be making that much. He probably makes 600 - 800 (on a good week and he'll have to work like a dog for that) and thinks he's Richard Brandson.
I'd love to see his face when he gets a van repair bill.
Going through his pics it looks like he's always cleaning cheap polys, no wonder he gets ok results with that heap of junk. My customers would send him packing if he introduced himself with that thing.
Yeah I'm sure your "customers" spend all they're time keeping up to date with the latest in carpet cleaning technology. ::)roll
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Hector but his business model is to publicly (on the web)suggest that other carpet cleaners are over charging and ripping of people and that he give the same quality clean but at half the price. Do we not have the right to answer his allegations?
Of course he didn't ask for criticism, but I don't understand your point Does anyone ask for criticism?? If we can only comment/criticise people who ask for it, then it would undermine our right to free speech. He has the right to say we over charge we have the right to respond.
But again like I said in my first post good luck to him, after all what he is saying is just marketing, I tell potential customers that some carpet cleaners leave a cocktail of chemicals on their carpets after cleaning & freshwater rinsing with RO water is the only true way to totally clean a carpet..... Again it's all marketing spiel, we all sell our own story to get the work
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I agree Mike.... just wanted to
stir it up a bit play devils advocate.. ;D
My website used to say that unlike other carpet cleaners who brag about their hose size... I didn't flood the carpets and attempt to suck it back out again... :o
I also said that I used less than 25% of the total liquids left behind by the the other cleaners.. ;D