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Title: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 26, 2014, 06:57:18 pm
As of January something I'm doing is switching my round from 4/8 weekly to calender monthly.

This past year has been great for me and I've picked up alot more work. My 4 weekly round is now at bursting point.

By switching to calendar month I'm planning that this will give me more time to do the extras like PVC cleans and conservatories.

Had anyone else found they prefer this method?

I'm hoping it will ease the pressure a bit too as it gives me a few more days in the month to complete my work, plus it's a good goal to have.....all work completed per calendar month.....instead of a never ending weekly cycle.
It's probably swings and round abouts, but I feel like I will much prefer this way.

Looking forward to 2015. :)
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: kempy on December 26, 2014, 07:41:58 pm
Good idea
I'm on 9 weekly - lol
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: marc on December 26, 2014, 07:57:05 pm
If i was you doing 4 weekly I'd be changing it to every 4to5 weeks to give you that extra week but also if you want to go back to 4 you can why you ask yourself well if you want to take someone on in the future you will need less work ie if you are earning £500 per week every 4 you only need £2000 of work if you change to every 5 then you need £2500 but if I was you and your fully booked out with work I'd look at all the work ya got and start increasing prices before changing your frequency unless every job you got is a cream job you may have some very well priced work but if your busy any time ya take a new job on put in a high price if you get it happy days at the same time put up one of your poor payers ie that £9.00 job tat shoud be £12.50 then rather than put it up to that put it up to £15.00 happy days you then got a great paying job or if your happy just put it up to the £12.50 as long as your happy with the price you don't have to be gready , I had a few myself that we're £8.50 and £9.00 and I put them all up to £11.50 the customers were ok as they not gone up in a while i could of put up to £14.00or£15.00 but could of lost one i stop the van once and clean all three of these in 30/35 mins for £33.50 instead of £26.50 I'm waffling a bit now but hope you know what I mean   Marc
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 26, 2014, 08:02:41 pm
Good advice Marc. I definitely know what you mean.

Higher prices is something I need to plan for. This year my lowest paying rounds will be getting an increase.
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: kempy on December 26, 2014, 08:13:39 pm
I don't have any 50p ones all rounded up .

Monthly round is so much easier to maintain
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: bobplum on December 26, 2014, 08:30:09 pm
i work 4 weekly in a month, ie week 1 starts the first Monday, so that will be Jan 5th, week 2, Monday 12th, week, 3 Monday 19th and week, 4 Monday 26th. so my days off are at the beginning of the month, In March they will be at the end of the month and i dont work to a fixed date, which some monthly cleaners do, i feel it gives a little more flexibility to move work across the weeks
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: tlwcs on December 26, 2014, 08:38:56 pm
i work 4 weekly in a month, ie week 1 starts the first Monday, so that will be Jan 5th, week 2, Monday 12th, week, 3 Monday 19th and week, 4 Monday 26th. so my days off are at the beginning of the month, In March they will be at the end of the month and i dont work to a fixed date, which some monthly cleaners do, i feel it gives a little more flexibility to move work across the weeks

Exactly the way I work.
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: bobplum on December 26, 2014, 09:16:17 pm
i work 4 weekly in a month, ie week 1 starts the first Monday, so that will be Jan 5th, week 2, Monday 12th, week, 3 Monday 19th and week, 4 Monday 26th. so my days off are at the beginning of the month, In March they will be at the end of the month and i dont work to a fixed date, which some monthly cleaners do, i feel it gives a little more flexibility to move work across the weeks

Exactly the way I work.


great minds think a like :) ;D
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: tlwcs on December 26, 2014, 09:31:55 pm
i work 4 weekly in a month, ie week 1 starts the first Monday, so that will be Jan 5th, week 2, Monday 12th, week, 3 Monday 19th and week, 4 Monday 26th. so my days off are at the beginning of the month, In March they will be at the end of the month and i dont work to a fixed date, which some monthly cleaners do, i feel it gives a little more flexibility to move work across the weeks

Exactly the way I work.


great minds think a like :) ;D
More like old nakered men lol
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: paulben on December 26, 2014, 11:33:34 pm
I changed from 4 weekly to 5 weekly as  I wanted more time off . I work 4 weeks as normal then on 5th week catch up with any outstanding work then off in caravan works for me
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: PoleKing on December 27, 2014, 12:37:08 am
I tell my customers its monthly but it tends to be 4 weekly.
Most don't really care either way...
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 27, 2014, 12:49:37 am
I tell my customers its monthly but it tends to be 4 weekly.
Most don't really care either way...

I think that will be how my customers are too. It's probably much the same to them. The plan is to have a few spare days at the end of the month but knowing me, it won't go to plan. Lol
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: PoleKing on December 27, 2014, 07:49:00 am
I tell my customers its monthly but it tends to be 4 weekly.
Most don't really care either way...

I think that will be how my customers are too. It's probably much the same to them. The plan is to have a few spare days at the end of the month but knowing me, it won't go to plan. Lol

Exactly the same as me bud.
Be disciplined.
Try for add ons at the end of the month.
You'll end up either with a few days off at then end of the month.
Or some extra bunce.
Win win!
All the best.
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 27, 2014, 08:27:06 am
I tell my customers its monthly but it tends to be 4 weekly.
Most don't really care either way...

I think that will be how my customers are too. It's probably much the same to them. The plan is to have a few spare days at the end of the month but knowing me, it won't go to plan. Lol

Exactly the same as me bud.
Be disciplined.
Try for add ons at the end of the month.
You'll end up either with a few days off at then end of the month.
Or some extra bunce.
Win win!
All the best.

That sounds good!

Thanks mate. Have a good one.
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: Deangsi on December 27, 2014, 08:17:12 pm
Imo its de valuing your roand why not sell a bit on? I really wouldn't change them they will also be that bit more dirty. I never understand why some people have a 6 weekly roand I know you don't, but what's the difference in doing 4k every 4 weeks or doing 6k every 6 weeks its still £1000 a week either way so sell 2k and run 4k 4 weekly lol just my opinion
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: tlwcs on December 27, 2014, 08:27:34 pm
Imo its de valuing your roand why not sell a bit on? I really wouldn't change them they will also be that bit more dirty. I never understand why some people have a 6 weekly roand I know you don't, but what's the difference in doing 4k every 4 weeks or doing 6k every 6 weeks its still £1000 a week either way so sell 2k and run 4k 4 weekly lol just my opinion

Time off means more to me now. I felt like I was on a treadmill 4 weekly
Tony
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 27, 2014, 08:56:29 pm
Imo its de valuing your roand why not sell a bit on? I really wouldn't change them they will also be that bit more dirty. I never understand why some people have a 6 weekly roand I know you don't, but what's the difference in doing 4k every 4 weeks or doing 6k every 6 weeks its still £1000 a week either way so sell 2k and run 4k 4 weekly lol just my opinion

I'm the same as tony. ^^^^^

I'd rather have some more time to myself now or time to catch up on extra jobs that I struggle to squeeze in.

My round is so full that I'm normally running a few days behind as it is, so the customers windows aren't really going to be that much more dirtier. It just gives me a few days breathing space every month.

I don't really like the idea of selling some work on, but if work carries on for me the same in 2015 I will have to either bring on an employee or sell some. I'll cross that bridge this year.

Monthly of course allows me to take on more customers too, so that's a plus. It delays the inevitable expansion.  :)

I'm a bit too OCD to let someone else loose on my work but it's something I'm going to have to overcome. :)
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: kempy on December 27, 2014, 08:59:00 pm
You will go monthly , have a few days slack .
Gain more custies and your be back to square one again - lol

A good Wfp cleaner will always have the STRESSES OFF TOO MUCH WORK .
It's not a bad thing .

It's a negative of using Vision - you get more recommendations
Lol
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: paulben on December 28, 2014, 01:22:06 pm
I get more time to do what I want moving to 5 weekly instead of 4 weekly works well as long as you can say no to more work . Still earn as much as after a short break work harder was always behind now keep up most of the time and do odd Saturday so get more time away in caravan on 5th week
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: PoleKing on December 28, 2014, 06:31:25 pm
I get more time to do what I want moving to 5 weekly instead of 4 weekly works well as long as you can say no to more work . Still earn as much as after a short break work harder was always behind now keep up most of the time and do odd Saturday so get more time away in caravan on 5th week

Sorry bud, I don't mean to nit pick but 5 weekly can't earn the same as 4 weekly.

One may be better off to bin the worst paying customers to get to 3 full weeks. Then acquire new work at a better rate and then one could earn the same in the 'new' 4 weeks than the 'old' 5.
But just moving from 4 week to 5 can't earn more. More free time, perhaps, but not more £
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: paulben on December 28, 2014, 08:54:33 pm
after break feel happy to work an extra hour a day as not so knackered so that's about 1 day extra a week after 4 weeks that's an extra week so same money could only work 8 til 1:30 2ish now do 8 til 3 plus got incentive to work harder
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: dazmond on December 29, 2014, 03:59:40 pm
most of my work is 4 weekly.

some 6 weekly/8 weekly.one 12 weekly and one job twice a year.

i have 300+ jobs and always seem to find time for add on jobs etc AND still end up with a few days off at the end of the month to chill before the next months onslaught.

im very organised though and work efficiently when "on the glass". :) most of my work is ultra compact though.
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 29, 2014, 05:24:47 pm
most of my work is 4 weekly.

some 6 weekly/8 weekly.one 12 weekly and one job twice a year.

i have 300+ jobs and always seem to find time for add on jobs etc AND still end up with a few days off at the end of the month to chill before the next months onslaught.

im very organised though and work efficiently when "on the glass". :) most of my work is ultra compact though.

How do you manage 4 and 6 weekly? Does that not mean going back to an area just two weeks after you were already there? Would be a pain with my work.

Also don't know how you manage to have days off if you work 4 weekly but good on you if you do. 4 weekly just seems like a never ending cycle to me now. To have days off/do extras I need to give myself the extra few days that monthly gives me.
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: dazmond on December 29, 2014, 06:59:22 pm
nearly all my work is in the same 3 mile area jonny.the 6 weekly work is down different roads to 4 weekly/8 weekly so no going back twice. ;)

sometimes i spend 4 or 5 days on an estate as i have that much compact work!other work is also very close.hardly any driving time at all.thats why i only do 2500-3000 miles a year in my van(i just use it for work).

it takes me around 15 mins to get to where most of my work is from my flat every day(5 miles).no work is over 10 miles away from home.

i usually work 9am-4pm 5 days a week mostly.sometimes half days and the odd saturday and still end up with 3 or 4 days off at the end of the month.sometimes a week depending if its a 5 week month.also this year ive earnt £17,000 more than 5 years ago when i was 100% trad.

this year ive had around 8 weeks off in total including xmas break and summer holidays.

as for add ons i usually fit them in next time i clean the customers windows if its for a regular customer and it usually doesnt disrupt my schedule too much.for non regulars i usually fit them in on a saturday.

best regards

dazmond
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 29, 2014, 07:13:39 pm
nearly all my work is in the same 3 mile area jonny.the 6 weekly work is down different roads to 4 weekly/8 weekly so no going back twice. ;)

sometimes i spend 4 or 5 days on an estate as i have that much compact work!other work is also very close.hardly any driving time at all.thats why i only do 2500-3000 miles a year in my van(i just use it for work).

it takes me around 15 mins to get to where most of my work is from my flat every day(5 miles).no work is over 10 miles away from home.

i usually work 9am-4pm 5 days a week mostly.sometimes half days and the odd saturday and still end up with 3 or 4 days off at the end of the month.sometimes a week depending if its a 5 week month.also this year ive earnt £17,000 more than 5 years ago when i was 100% trad.

this year ive had around 8 weeks off in total including xmas break and summer holidays.

as for add ons i usually fit them in next time i clean the customers windows if its for a regular customer and it usually doesnt disrupt my schedule too much.for non regulars i usually fit them in on a saturday.

best regards

dazmond

Ah ok, Nice one.

Must be nice to have such a compact round.

All the best. :)
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: kempy on December 29, 2014, 07:13:57 pm
Wow
Be another £5k extra next year for you weve using Vision
LOL
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: NWH on December 29, 2014, 08:29:29 pm
Do most still have monthly rounds I would think you could get much more for jobs doing jobs less frequently,if your not so regular you will find people will be prepared to pay more per clean
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: Jonny 87 on December 29, 2014, 08:33:53 pm
Do most still have monthly rounds I would think you could get much more for jobs doing jobs less frequently,if your not so regular you will find people will be prepared to pay more per clean

I still get people wanting fortnightly cleans. A month is the longest most want to wait. Especially the house proud types.

Plus most people are paid monthly so it fits in with their expenses. Works both ways.
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: NWH on December 29, 2014, 09:20:21 pm
Depends on how much there paying to have there windows cleaned though
Title: Re: Changes........4 weekly to monthly
Post by: dazmond on December 30, 2014, 05:47:36 pm
Wow
Be another £5k extra next year for you weve using Vision
LOL

Just under 5k more this year than last year kempy.

And 3k extra every year for the last 4 previous years so 17k in 5 years on top of my previous yearly earnings.

Should be extra 3k next year then I think I'll have reached a plateau in my business unless I employ or work longer.non of which interest me.