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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: H20cleaning on August 23, 2014, 08:07:28 pm
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one of my customers (who i have only just taken on the round a few months ago) handed me another window cleaners flyer with a quotation price of £8.00 on it, she didn't cancel she said ''i just wanted to give you it so you know''
im not angry by any means business is business, but i am genuinely curious as to how someone using a WFP system can charge £8.00 once a month for a 5 bedroom 3 story house:| ???
this house takes me around 30mins to clean doing a good job as usual.
I have blanked the leaflets details out incase your wondering about the scribbles
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1408820784_10622258_10152590748080943_1436190468_n.jpg)
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1408820635_10488891_10152590748440943_177223209_n.jpg)
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£9 house all day long.
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How much do you charge ???
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May i add that the back of this house also has a 3rd story roof bay windows, and 3 patio doors with windows either side, plus the kitchen window and 3 story side window to.
I charge £12.00 but everytime i do it i always say i need to charge £14.00
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My brothers is wider with more windows but all dead plain. No patio etc. He pays £6.50 and thinks its a lot. My cheapest customer is £7, that's a plain semi. Note my brother cleaner is rubbish. The guy sets on 3 lads and bangs them out. It depends also where you live.
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Ring them up and ask them why they are quoting your customers.
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Ring them up and ask them why they are quoting your customers.
He obviously forgot to put his "This is my customer" flagpole in her front garden,.. how else would he other guy not have realised? ::)roll
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That's a £15 house :(
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That's a £15 house :(
£20 here I would say. 8 weekly, mind.
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You know the other week (you may not remember/care) I posted an email id sent to a customer who was 'thinking about cancelling'
Well-he lived in this style house (David Wilson aren't they...) I charge £20 and someone had quoted a tenner. My £15 houses on the same estate were quoted at £9.
I've since found out that he's quoted about 8 of the villages I clean in.
Quoting between 30% and 50% of my prices.
I lost one-the one I posted the email about.
It's not ideal but it's par for the course in our game.
Someone else will usually be cheaper.
If there's no-one else out there cheaper than you-you're too cheap.
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May i add that the back of this house also has a 3rd story roof bay windows, and 3 patio doors with windows either side, plus the kitchen window and 3 story side window to.
I charge £12.00 but everytime i do it i always say i need to charge £14.00
I'm surprised you are getting £12.00 for that house in Middlesbrough. I better start canvassing in your area.
I believe the windie whose quote you got is now an infrequent member of this forum (someone upset him) and he charges around that price. If its the same chap I think it is, then he quotes another 50p to also clean the integral garage door, so I wouldn't know what he would do with the separate garage door. He was getting so much new work recently so one wonders if he is charging too little (this was gleaned from Nat's forum about 4/6 months ago. One week in March he had 37 new cleans to do).
Again, if its the same chap then he will be able to reach all windows as the only pole he had was an SLX40 as he sold his SLX22 to help fund it.
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May i add that the back of this house also has a 3rd story roof bay windows, and 3 patio doors with windows either side, plus the kitchen window and 3 story side window to.
I charge £12.00 but everytime i do it i always say i need to charge £14.00
I'm surprised you are getting £12.00 for that house in Middlesbrough. I better start canvassing in your area.
I believe the windie whose quote you got is now an infrequent member of this forum (someone upset him) and he charges around that price. If its the same chap I think it is, then he quotes another 50p to also clean the integral garage door, so I wouldn't know what he would do with the separate garage door. He was getting so much new work recently so one wonders if he is charging too little (this was gleaned from Nat's forum about 4/6 months ago. One week in March he had 37 new cleans to do).
Again, if its the same chap then he will be able to reach all windows as the only pole he had was an SLX40 as he sold his SLX22 to help fund it.
I dont clean Middlesbrough mate i just tell people im from there because its easier.
I clean yarm, stockton, Eaglescliffe, leven and surrounding villages.
I see £12.00 cheap for a 250k house!!!
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Ring them up and ask them why they are quoting your customers.
He obviously forgot to put his "This is my customer" flagpole in her front garden,.. how else would he other guy not have realised? ::)roll
perhaps the fact they are clean and doesn't look like they need cleaning!
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Ring them up and ask them why they are quoting your customers.
He obviously forgot to put his "This is my customer" flagpole in her front garden,.. how else would he other guy not have realised? ::)roll
perhaps the fact they are clean and doesn't look like they need cleaning!
Haha i had just cleaned them on that day!! I wasnt bothered though obviously but was just shocked at such a little price for WFP
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Ring them up and ask them why they are quoting your customers.
He obviously forgot to put his "This is my customer" flagpole in her front garden,.. how else would he other guy not have realised? ::)roll
perhaps the fact they are clean and doesn't look like they need cleaning!
Haha i had just cleaned them on that day!! I wasnt bothered though obviously but was just shocked at such a little price for WFP
lol.Name and shame because they are on here i believe.
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Ring them up and ask them why they are quoting your customers.
He obviously forgot to put his "This is my customer" flagpole in her front garden,.. how else would he other guy not have realised? ::)roll
perhaps the fact they are clean and doesn't look like they need cleaning!
Haha i had just cleaned them on that day!! I wasnt bothered though obviously but was just shocked at such a little price for WFP
lol.Name and shame because they are on here i believe.
I dont think there is reason to name and shame they probs didnt intentionally try and poach my work... Just generally pricing up jobs in hope to gain new work, i just cant see how people can run a business earning upto £16.00 an hour.... After expenses
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i just cant see how people can run a business earning upto £16.00 an hour.... After expenses
They can't. We had a guy that another local window cleaner called "Mr 50%" because he offered dirt cheap cleans for the first three months and then it went to 'normal price' which was still very cheap. Give this guy his due, he did a very effective leafletting job (leafletted loads of my customers in lots of different and far reaching areas).
I didn't lose one, but actually got one of his (long boring story).
I hardly ever see the guy working and haven't seen him at all in months.
As a general rule, cheap window cleaners don't tend to last long.
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I'm not a window cleaner but some of the comments have me confused. Do some window cleaners actually believe that your customers should never be approached by other window cleaners (not aimed at the OP)? Isn't this just business? I have Sky contact me every other week to leave Virgin, and vice versa when I was with Sky. I could name a million things it happens with.
If you do a good enough job then you shouldn't have to worry and if people do change for a cheaper quote when you provide a good service then they ain't worth having as a customer.
Glad you managed to keep the customer, and for £16 ph less expenses the other window cleaner may as well get a job at Tesco.
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Do some window cleaners actually believe that your customers should never be approached by other window cleaners (not aimed at the OP)?
The daft ones may take offence at someone trying to 'poach' their work. The really daft ones think they own 'patches'.
But most of us have a few brain cells and understand that this is just the way the world works.
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I often have people approach my custys but they are happy to stay with me and my service, so i very rarely get angry at another windy for trying! Unless he purposely knocked while i was cleaning (wich has never happened)
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We are well known as being the most expensive w/c in the area. No shortage of work though!
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Ring them up and ask them why they are quoting your customers.
He obviously forgot to put his "This is my customer" flagpole in her front garden,.. how else would he other guy not have realised? ::)roll
perhaps the fact they are clean and doesn't look like they need cleaning!
Haha i had just cleaned them on that day!! I wasnt bothered though obviously but was just shocked at such a little price for WFP
lol.Name and shame because they are on here i believe.
I dont think there is reason to name and shame they probs didnt intentionally try and poach my work... Just generally pricing up jobs in hope to gain new work, i just cant see how people can run a business earning upto £16.00 an hour.... After expenses
Your making the mistake of thinking every
one works the same speed as you. I would
clean that in 10 mins and yes I have houses
similar. If you cleaned it in 10 mins would you be happy
with £8?. Just to point out first clean would take 15 to 30 mins
there after on a 4 week cycle would be a maintains clean.
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Ring them up and ask them why they are quoting your customers.
He obviously forgot to put his "This is my customer" flagpole in her front garden,.. how else would he other guy not have realised? ::)roll
perhaps the fact they are clean and doesn't look like they need cleaning!
Haha i had just cleaned them on that day!! I wasnt bothered though obviously but was just shocked at such a little price for WFP
lol.Name and shame because they are on here i believe.
I dont think there is reason to name and shame they probs didnt intentionally try and poach my work... Just generally pricing up jobs in hope to gain new work, i just cant see how people can run a business earning upto £16.00 an hour.... After expenses
Your making the mistake of thinking every
one works the same speed as you. I would
clean that in 10 mins and yes I have houses
similar. If you cleaned it in 10 mins would you be happy
with £8?. Just to point out first clean would take 15 to 30 mins
there after on a 4 week cycle would be a maintains clean.
That house could not be done in 10 minutes unless you are already there doing next door. It would take at least 3 or 4 minutes to set uo/pack up/ write invoice/knock await payment etc so that leaves 6 minutes and unless you teleported, there would be travel time. No way should it take 30 minutes though. £8 is still too cheap though.
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I think paul13 was the chap who uploaded a video of cleaning a house front in around 2 mins.
After watching the video i changed the way i clean. No complaints for months and earning more and working less.
Thanks Paul (if its you lol) Never did get round to saying thank you :)
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Some guys on here claim to use teleport AND time-travel machines Steve, they clean the glass before they've even turned up. In fact I know some guys on here who clean the glass before the customer has taken them on, a couple before the house was built and one guy has cleaned the glass so fast it was before the silica sand had actually been made into glass. The video is on youtube. www.youtube.com/ciucrap.com.
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Ring them up and ask them why they are quoting your customers.
He obviously forgot to put his "This is my customer" flagpole in her front garden,.. how else would he other guy not have realised? ::)roll
perhaps the fact they are clean and doesn't look like they need cleaning!
Haha i had just cleaned them on that day!! I wasnt bothered though obviously but was just shocked at such a little price for WFP
lol.Name and shame because they are on here i believe.
I dont think there is reason to name and shame they probs didnt intentionally try and poach my work... Just generally pricing up jobs in hope to gain new work, i just cant see how people can run a business earning upto £16.00 an hour.... After expenses
Your making the mistake of thinking every
one works the same speed as you. I would
clean that in 10 mins and yes I have houses
similar. If you cleaned it in 10 mins would you be happy
with £8?. Just to point out first clean would take 15 to 30 mins
there after on a 4 week cycle would be a maintains clean.
That house could not be done in 10 minutes unless you are already there doing next door. It would take at least 3 or 4 minutes to set uo/pack up/ write invoice/knock await payment etc so that leaves 6 minutes and unless you teleported, there would be travel time. No way should it take 30 minutes though. £8 is still too cheap though.
Always takes me at least 20 mins. Some houses are a sod to get the hose around etc. Actually cleaning isn't a problem. Its setting up.
I canvas in the hope to get all the traditional guys work lmao
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10mins to do a 5 bedroom 3 story house😁
What a funny think to say... Each window is individual panes... And there is 3 of them per unit... Not a chance can you clean 25 ish pains of windows and patio doors in 10mins
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You girls always turn every post into a cat fight! ::)roll
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That's a £15 house :(
That's what I would charge too
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You girls always turn every post into a cat fight! ::)roll
Just a ridiculous statement 😂 10mins.... I could probs just clean the fronts in 10mins
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I think paul13 was the chap who uploaded a video of cleaning a house front in around 2 mins.
After watching the video i changed the way i clean. No complaints for months and earning more and working less.
Thanks Paul (if its you lol) Never did get round to saying thank you :)
Thank you it was me, I'm glad it's working
out for you. I'm happy to help anyone just
sold most of my round to a few guys one
hardcore trad for years took him out for
an hour guess what I'm helping him set
up wfp ;)
I like to think I have helped a lot of guys
round my way. I'm not on here to brag
just help guys with my experiences.
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I think paul13 was the chap who uploaded a video of cleaning a house front in around 2 mins.
After watching the video i changed the way i clean. No complaints for months and earning more and working less.
Thanks Paul (if its you lol) Never did get round to saying thank you :)
Thank you it was me, I'm glad it's working
out for you. I'm happy to help anyone just
sold most of my round to a few guys one
hardcore trad for years took him out for
an hour guess what I'm helping him set
up wfp ;)
I like to think I have helped a lot of guys
round my way. I'm not on here to brag
just help guys with my experiences.
I'd like to see the video. Got a link to it mate?
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I think paul13 was the chap who uploaded a video of cleaning a house front in around 2 mins.
After watching the video i changed the way i clean. No complaints for months and earning more and working less.
Thanks Paul (if its you lol) Never did get round to saying thank you :)
Thank you it was me, I'm glad it's working
out for you. I'm happy to help anyone just
sold most of my round to a few guys one
hardcore trad for years took him out for
an hour guess what I'm helping him set
up wfp ;)
I like to think I have helped a lot of guys
round my way. I'm not on here to brag
just help guys with my experiences.
Cleaning a 5 bed 3 story house in 10mins is not something i would plan to ever learn... 9/10 when i get new customers they say " i got rid of the last window cleaner because he did the full house in X amount of time and never did a good job"
The faster you are the worse job customers think you do.
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Your correct some custy's like to make sure they get there moneys worth.
Speaking for myself I'm very conscious of making a good job and very rarely get complaints
when cleaning myself.
Here's a link for vid I done took some flack at time for it not trying to show off just help other guys
who want to get faster. One thing I will say is there is a first clean then a maintenance clean
THIS IS A MAINTENANCE CLEAN ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vXV1zhmVao&feature=youtu.be
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=182321.0
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It's a numbers game.
I wasn't getting any complaints for years. So that proves I am doing a good job. Eased of on doing the best possible job. Has anyone complained? Nope. Earning more and working less.
I proved yesterday to a new starter. We spent ages on front door and front bottom window. He come out. Couldn't care less about some of the marks I couldn't get rid off on gutters but loved the door.
Once you work out what customers want this job is easy.
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Great point
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Am i missing something? Your not rinsing are you
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Exactly. I think if you don't get a few complaints a year you are the mug really.
I have smashing through work now and it's honestly since I watched the video.
I tested it out. On some windows. One pass. No rinse. And windows are drying fine. I don't clean like that all the time. But I took your advice.
A 10 second look can save 10 minutes. I was looking at houses before I cleaned and they were perfect before I even cleaned em.
I used to think £30 an hour was really good. All I can say is LOL
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H20 cleaning. I used to think like this. "Can't do
House in less than 30 mins"
I have some 30 min houses down to less than 10
Minutes now.
H20 clean some windows during the week. Don't rinse
And check em. Really slap dash and check back. YOU will be shocked on what dries fine!!
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Am i missing something? Your not rinsing are you
I'm rinsing on the glass.
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paul specialises in open wallet surgery when he meets folks. since getting to know him it is websites, clx poles, carbon goosenecks etc. ;D
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paul specialises in open wallet surgery when he meets folks. since getting to know him it is websites, clx poles, carbon goosenecks etc. ;D
Now this guy was an old slow windy when
I first made his aqcquaintance ;)
Now he is a well oiled window cleaning machine
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I watched Pauls video a while back and changed the way I worked,earning more now.
Thank you Paul
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i use dto spend ages on some work. slowly but surely knocking time off on wfp. some windows do need more cleaning than others but ye get to know the problems ones as ye work. I also use dto have a return pipe into my back pack n used tap to control flow. now that is gone it is full steam ahead.
work smarter not harder!
also using wagtail for some commercial work. do top of glas wagtail then use two hands with mop n squeegee to clean bottoms.
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I know what your saying but if you do a propper job and clean the frames then then surely the dirt from frames drys on the windows?
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I include frames as part of the clean.
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I include frames as part of the clean.
You did't clean the top frames.
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Got to say no more than 15 mins for that job 3 patios and 3 storey and that is a proper clean,you know with experience when you've done a good job.
H20 ten mins to to the front of that house you could do a great job a lot quiker,not nocking you,trying to be helpfull mate.
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Your correct some custy's like to make sure they get there moneys worth.
Speaking for myself I'm very conscious of making a good job and very rarely get complaints
when cleaning myself.
Here's a link for vid I done took some flack at time for it not trying to show off just help other guys
who want to get faster. One thing I will say is there is a first clean then a maintenance clean
THIS IS A MAINTENANCE CLEAN ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vXV1zhmVao&feature=youtu.be
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=182321.0
Why are you rinsing off the glass on the bottom right?
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I know what your saying but if you do a propper job and clean the frames then then surely the dirt from frames drys on the windows?
H20 im going to pm you,got some amazin girls on facebook in stockton for you,put on here so you no mate.
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Cant seem to pm you h2o,not putting names up on here.
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I include frames as part of the clean.
You did't clean the top frames.
Check other link answered that there mate.
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Your correct some custy's like to make sure they get there moneys worth.
Speaking for myself I'm very conscious of making a good job and very rarely get complaints
when cleaning myself.
Here's a link for vid I done took some flack at time for it not trying to show off just help other guys
who want to get faster. One thing I will say is there is a first clean then a maintenance clean
THIS IS A MAINTENANCE CLEAN ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vXV1zhmVao&feature=youtu.be
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=182321.0
Why are you rinsing off the glass on the bottom right?
Must have been bird muck or snail trail.
You can check it's away better when rinsing
off the glass.
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I know what your saying but if you do a propper job and clean the frames then then surely the dirt from frames drys on the windows?
H20 im going to pm you,got some amazin girls on facebook in stockton for you,put on here so you no mate.
Hahaha how do you know girls from stockton on tees!
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my mate is friends with a couple,if you give me your email ill give you a name of one and you can add her friends.
She is not shy puts up pics all sorts.
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she keeps gettin banned for naked photos,her mates are stunners too,all in the best possible taste of course.
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Just the kind of girl i want.... NAT haha!!
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What took you so long to clean that front paul13?? ;D
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What took you so long to clean that front paul13?? ;D
Getting old mate. ;D
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He probably did not look round the back of the house to give a proper quote. If you read the leaflet the quote is not specific to your customers house e.g if they have a conservatory it will be more. Does it mean by a standard house one with 5 bedrooms?
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He probably did not look round the back of the house to give a proper quote. If you read the leaflet the quote is not specific to your customers house e.g if they have a conservatory it will be more. Does it mean by a standard house one with 5 bedrooms?
Your quote is £8.00 is the clue?
And you cant class extra house window as a conservatory after you have already priced the house