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Title: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: lal on May 02, 2014, 08:45:09 am

 Hi Guys & Gals, just looking for some advice, i try and keep all my work with in a 20 mile radius of my home,
 occasionally i get calls for jobs way out of my area, if the job is worthwhile i will do it but bump the price up
 for the extra fuel cost. So to other CIU windys out there how do you work out the extra cost on top of your cleaning price for jobs miles out of your normal working area, be it time, fuel, milage, any feedback appreciated.

Best Regards
Lal
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: Ian101 on May 02, 2014, 09:41:41 am
Had this situation last week director of a commercial property I do wanted me to go to Boddlewyden  which is an hour round trip for me so explained I would have to price in travelling time which he understood job was in and out on a 3 storey barn conversion the 3rd storey being velox only normally 60 quid but told him 90 quid .... didnt charge fiver for fuel
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: Perfect Windows on May 02, 2014, 12:06:13 pm
I tend just to add travelling time at our target hourly rate.  I ignore traveling costs because the chances are we'll get more work in the area we're travelling to, so it simply won't be an issue soon. Plus, our hourly rate's high enough to cover it.

After a local windy was rude when I offered him some work a few miles off my patch, I did just this.  I now have a day's work in the new area.  They are all paying something of a premium so I'm VERY pleased to be covering it.

Vin
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: dannymack on May 02, 2014, 01:16:50 pm
We travel out alot just price jobs up at what I'm happy with. My longest job away is 5 hours there and back every 6 weeks. We've git work in Leicester, Dover, Cambridge, Felixstowe, east London, north London south London Essex, west end & docklands and spend lots on fuel lol !!!! ✔👍
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: dazmond on May 02, 2014, 01:25:43 pm
i dont take on any work  outside of my 10 mile area.no need to.plenty of work to go at most of the month anyway.

less fuel costs

less wear and tear on the van

prices kept reasonable and competitive

also during the spring/summer months im kept busy with add on jobs usually from existing customers.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: Clever Forum Name on May 02, 2014, 01:37:15 pm
Hourly rate plus a £100 done
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: wfp master on May 02, 2014, 03:11:28 pm
We travel out alot just price jobs up at what I'm happy with. My longest job away is 5 hours there and back every 6 weeks. We've git work in Leicester, Dover, Cambridge, Felixstowe, east London, north London south London Essex, west end & docklands and spend lots on fuel lol !!!! ✔👍
5 hours traveling time :o is that for one job.? i would rather work local for the 5 hours than drive that far.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: dazmond on May 02, 2014, 04:25:43 pm
We travel out alot just price jobs up at what I'm happy with. My longest job away is 5 hours there and back every 6 weeks. We've git work in Leicester, Dover, Cambridge, Felixstowe, east London, north London south London Essex, west end & docklands and spend lots on fuel lol !!!! ✔👍

i couldnt be bothered mate! ;D ;D

loads of work on my doorstep!!no starting before 9am and home around 4pm or 5pm at the latest!!

£15 a week on fuel

2500-3000 miles a year in the work van! :)
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: dazmond on May 02, 2014, 04:27:33 pm
the money i save on fuel i spend on extreme poles!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: Dave Willis on May 02, 2014, 05:30:48 pm
I just add the fuel on top of my normal £60 an hour rate plus travelling time.

Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 02, 2014, 06:26:44 pm
i dont take on any work  outside of my 10 mile area.no need to.plenty of work to go at most of the month anyway.

less fuel costs

less wear and tear on the van

prices kept reasonable and competitive

also during the spring/summer months im kept busy with add on jobs usually from existing customers.

+1 on the 10 mile thing. (Well 12 actually)

But if a "big job" £200 plus - say a school or such like was within 30 miles I'd have a look.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: dannymack on May 02, 2014, 06:36:16 pm
You gotta go where the work is, I don't mind the travelling as ill drive there and my son drives back. Yes one job a big care home as we do over 15 for this company you go to where they are being built and money all adds up. Pays the wages bills and mortgage. Yes I go through fuel but I'm earning the money to pay for it.

Daz my ole son we start at 4.30am finish by around 12 / 1 o'clock. Hate getting up early but once I'm up and were out we miss the traffic and come home and miss the traffic so works for me as we have keys to get in offices and care homes the old folks are up early. 👍
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: Window Lickers on May 02, 2014, 06:51:21 pm
Just back from a two day job down on the south coast. Hours drive. I put £100 per day on the job to cover lost income and fuel expenses.

Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on May 02, 2014, 08:41:14 pm
if its far away try priceing it on a weekend and have a day out there with the family so you kind of don't lose out on money or time ?
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: lal on May 02, 2014, 08:51:07 pm
the money i save on fuel i spend on extreme poles!! ;D ;D ;D

Nice one dazmond.  :)
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: Cliff perkins on May 02, 2014, 09:06:52 pm
if you can keep it local.
i asked to clean 5 houses 15 miles from me,i could have said yes but its out of my area and you have the added stress of if there are any call backs you got the ballache of driving all the way back for 1 job.

keep life simples ;-)
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: lal on May 02, 2014, 09:25:14 pm
if you can keep it local.
i asked to clean 5 houses 15 miles from me,i could have said yes but its out of my area and you have the added stress of if there are any call backs you got the ballache of driving all the way back for 1 job.

keep life simples ;-)

Very good point made Cliff.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: sunshine windows on May 03, 2014, 07:05:54 am
Do your job properly and you don't get call backs  :o only kidding.

The furthest I go is around 12 miles. I just ask the 1st enquirer to get me more work in the area to make it worth my while.

I only ever clean 2 monthly in areas where I need to charge a fortune.......err I mean a premium price for too.

Started one area by doing a £25 job. Turned up on the day of cleaning and they'd got me another customer already. I now have some of my best paid work in this area.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: Cliff perkins on May 03, 2014, 07:18:10 am
1st cleans you have a higher chance of a call back.

I think if your a sole trader keep it local.
If you have 2 or more vans on the road then you would need to extend your cleaning circle to cover the extra work you would need.

My point is if your a sole trader dont waste your day driving around keep it compact as possible.
Canvass where you live and gain more work there.
Its there you just gotta find it.
Regards
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: Dean Taberner on May 03, 2014, 08:17:50 am
We cover the entire UK and work in teams of 2 with 3 teams on the go at the moment,

Its kept very simple, prices range from £120 a man day ranging up to £200 a man day.

We are fully booked up for 6 days a week constantly and work the odd sunday at times.

We are based in Stoke-On-Trent and usually work within a 90 mile radius of the city. Over the next few weeks though we're working as far south as Dorset and Devon and as far north as Kilmarnock in Scotland.

All good fun and there's plenty of money out there to be had if you're willing to go and fetch it.

Or if you're happy working alone in your local town then fair play.

Each to ones own.

Dean.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: dazmond on May 03, 2014, 10:05:21 am
You gotta go where the work is, I don't mind the travelling as ill drive there and my son drives back. Yes one job a big care home as we do over 15 for this company you go to where they are being built and money all adds up. Pays the wages bills and mortgage. Yes I go through fuel but I'm earning the money to pay for it.

Daz my ole son we start at 4.30am finish by around 12 / 1 o'clock. Hate getting up early but once I'm up and were out we miss the traffic and come home and miss the traffic so works for me as we have keys to get in offices and care homes the old folks are up early. 👍

not having a pop danny.we all run our businesses differently.fair play.i bet you do well.as long as we earn our money!


best wishes


dazmond
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: R.L Window Cleaning on May 03, 2014, 10:18:16 pm
I have one round i clean every 4weeks... its 60mile away. Take 1hour20 travel.

i dont mind it once a month. But couldnt do it regular.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: 8weekly on May 04, 2014, 05:48:32 am
1st cleans you have a higher chance of a call back.

I think if your a sole trader keep it local.
If you have 2 or more vans on the road then you would need to extend your cleaning circle to cover the extra work you would need.

My point is if your a sole trader dont waste your day driving around keep it compact as possible.
Canvass where you live and gain more work there.
Its there you just gotta find it.
Regards
I think this is the point but with two further, if you are working alone you should stay local - IF you have enough work and intend to stay alone for the foreseeable. That said, it is easier to stay local if you live in a city than it is if you live in a small town.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: PoleKing on May 04, 2014, 08:06:23 am
1st cleans you have a higher chance of a call back.

I think if your a sole trader keep it local.
If you have 2 or more vans on the road then you would need to extend your cleaning circle to cover the extra work you would need.

My point is if your a sole trader dont waste your day driving around keep it compact as possible.
Canvass where you live and gain more work there.
Its there you just gotta find it.
Regards
I think this is the point but with two further, if you are working alone you should stay local - IF you have enough work and intend to stay alone for the foreseeable. That said, it is easier to stay local if you live in a city than it is if you live in a small town.

In the interests of balance, all (bar one or 2 days a month) of my work is over half an hour away. Nothing further than 1.5 hours anymore though.
I like being away. I'm on my own. And it's through choice I'm away. The areas I work are more affluent than the area I live so I make more money.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: robertphil on May 04, 2014, 08:30:26 am
i personally wont go out of the 4 towns that we work in ,not for any money.

i tell you for why, you go just the one time and a neighbour will see you , next thing you know youve got 2 out there ,then 4 .     then you have to start advertising to get a days worth at a place where only fools go

    see where im going.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: PoleKing on May 04, 2014, 08:32:03 am
i personally wont go out of the 4 towns that we work in ,not for any money.

i tell you for why, you go just the one time and a neighbour will see you , next thing you know youve got 2 out there ,then 4 .     then you have to start advertising to get a days worth at a place where only fools go

    see where im going.

Are you VAT registered Bobby?
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: 8weekly on May 04, 2014, 09:03:13 am
1st cleans you have a higher chance of a call back.

I think if your a sole trader keep it local.
If you have 2 or more vans on the road then you would need to extend your cleaning circle to cover the extra work you would need.

My point is if your a sole trader dont waste your day driving around keep it compact as possible.
Canvass where you live and gain more work there.
Its there you just gotta find it.
Regards
I think this is the point but with two further, if you are working alone you should stay local - IF you have enough work and intend to stay alone for the foreseeable. That said, it is easier to stay local if you live in a city than it is if you live in a small town.

In the interests of balance, all (bar one or 2 days a month) of my work is over half an hour away. Nothing further than 1.5 hours anymore though.
I like being away. I'm on my own. And it's through choice I'm away. The areas I work are more affluent than the area I live so I make more money.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: robertphil on May 04, 2014, 10:25:41 am
i personally wont go out of the 4 towns that we work in ,not for any money.

i tell you for why, you go just the one time and a neighbour will see you , next thing you know youve got 2 out there ,then 4 .     then you have to start advertising to get a days worth at a place where only fools go

    see where im going.

Are you VAT registered Bobby?
no sir,  iv paid for enough royal weddings as it is
Title: Re: Pricing jobs miles out of your area
Post by: Johnny B on May 04, 2014, 03:42:43 pm
I have a day's worth of work a month 25 miles away.

I first went there 2 and a half years ago, through a family member of a local customer. She got me a few of her neighbours when I went there the first time. Most quickly became messers, and I was very close to dropping the whole area, but I persisted with the good ones and have since picked up enough good, reliable customers in the same estate to make it one of my best areas now.

I also do a large holiday home (ex-convent) 55 miles away. I normally do this once a year. I did it a couple of weeks ago, and have been asked to do an extra clean next month before the holiday season gets going in earnest. It's a good earner, and I get well fed and watered to boot!

John