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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: easy clean on March 24, 2014, 08:41:27 pm
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Was asked to go price a nursing home and been to a few in my time and this one was like a 5 star hotel!!!! It was amazing even had a concierge for the residents. By far the best I've ever seen!
Anyway as I'm being shown around the guy tells me about how expensive it is to stay there.....£1000.00+ per week and that uk commercial cleaning do the windows and no one is happy with them because they miss windows and certain parts each time and that the guy has even told them that he can't clean it all because he is only assigned a certain amount of time to do it.
Anyway put my price in and thought its a nice job, nice surrounds so went in at £187.00 on a monthly clean, thinking keep it reasonable and my get asked to price their other 2 sites.
Hear back from them today saying that even though they are not happy with the current service and level of work, they will stay with uk com cleaning because they charge them £60 for each of the 3 sites.
Any ideas how these people think, it puzzles me?
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didnt know these guys were even still going
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Priorities? It matters but not enough.
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Is it a Bupa home? They have the contract nationwide I believe and do a shocking job, they charge ridiculously low prices too. It's just a numbers game for them, if the sheets are signed they get paid and don't care for doing a quality job.
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No it's part of efhl. I've heard about all the bupa sites.
I do remember the guy saying how good they was when they come to deep clean the kitchen areas tho.
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Desperados needing work £60 for the 3. :o
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Was asked to go price a nursing home and been to a few in my time and this one was like a 5 star hotel!!!! It was amazing even had a concierge for the residents. By far the best I've ever seen!
Anyway as I'm being shown around the guy tells me about how expensive it is to stay there.....£1000.00+ per week and that uk commercial cleaning do the windows and no one is happy with them because they miss windows and certain parts each time and that the guy has even told them that he can't clean it all because he is only assigned a certain amount of time to do it.
Anyway put my price in and thought its a nice job, nice surrounds so went in at £187.00 on a monthly clean, thinking keep it reasonable and my get asked to price their other 2 sites.
Hear back from them today saying that even though they are not happy with the current service and level of work, they will stay with uk com cleaning because they charge them £60 for each of the 3 sites.
Any ideas how these people think, it puzzles me?
The problem is that the customer is use to paying £60.00 so anything above it is always deemed as expensive so going from £60 to £180 ish is not going to happen even if they know in the back of there minds it may be a better clean , if you said £90.00 you may have got the job but then hated every minute of it.
I have to say it this is one of the reasons i dont get involved in commercial work, i just think my time is too precious to waste quoting for these jobs and knowing its always about the cheapest price to them
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bob is right..
they probably have to have the windows cleaned and at 60 quid is the current price they wont justify going to 180.. at the end of the day there doing what has been asked the windows are getting cleaned well... sort of and that's the end of that.
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by the way,why £187 and not 185 or 190?
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I don't round up or down, I quite for the amount of glass and take lots of pics and price it that way. Whatever it comes to that's the price they get ;)
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how long do you think it would take to clean mate?
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Prob about 3/3.5 hours with 1.5 hours traveling
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in that case i would of priced it up at £200 2 monthly(to try and soften the blow!).and explain that its £100 a month for a proper clean.
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Prob about 3/3.5 hours with 1.5 hours traveling
1.5 hours traveling and 3.5 hours work, your price £187!
I would need at least £250
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Really Ben?
Do you get much work?
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Really Ben?
Do you get much work?
i can't complaint! but my price has to be right for me otherwise i don't want to do it.
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I love this forum! ::)roll
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they don't do my pupa site lol
;D
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i really need to sort this predictive text poope out
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I love this forum! ::)roll
Yep me too. All the rubbish is hilarious. ;D would "need" 250.
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5 hours, £250 sounds right to me.
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Although travel time and cost is a very real expense to us, a customer will rarely see i that way because the money is often made by working the round into areas and by grouping work - therefore making any travel cost for the day effectively shared amongst that day's customers. However, even if it was virtually on your doorstep, it still sounds as if the rate is too low. It seems as if this particular customer wants top quality at bottom price - i.e. cleaned by a company that is prepared to go bankrupt. Top quality and bottom price doesn't work. If the discussion warrants it, I am usually prepared make it clear to a customer that my higher than average price is matched by my better than average work quality; none of this marketing bull about being the best etc. because customers see through that anyway.
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yeah im with ben on this one
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I lost a care home to this crowd a year or so ago. It used to take us two 8 (man) hours to clean and was underpriced at £200. It was right on our doorstep though.
Their price? £80 and they travel over 150 miles to it. Now takes two lads 3 (man) hours.
The house manager is not too happy with the quality if service but it's out of her hands. These jobs will go full circle and end up back with local cleaners eventually.
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I love this forum! ::)roll
Yep me too. All the rubbish is hilarious. ;D would "need" 250.
why rubbish? yes under £250 i won't do it but it is my choose,i can understand if someone want to do it cheaper.
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I love this forum! ::)roll
Yep me too. All the rubbish is hilarious. ;D would "need" 250.
why rubbish? yes under £250 i won't do it but it is my choose,i can understand if someone want to do it cheaper.
True enough, and I confess I don't know you. But the usual comment about grasping big bucks comes from the skint crowd. Those who struggle with Walter Mitty syndrome :)
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Can't understand the logic?
Well the logic is that some half wits think that £50 an hour should be the going rate. The bigger companies who employ can send a guy out and pay him £7 an hour, charge the customer say £15 an hour and still turnover a profit from the comfort of their swing chair.
The laugh is that the guys spouting off their fabulous hourly rates of £50, £60 an hour and above are sat at home most of the time saving for their new van that they haven't got and ripping out their hot water systems because they can't afford the £10 a week gas. "I had a few £50 houses to do this morning" - brilliant!
That's why this forum is such a laugh I love it. ;D
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if it was 90 mins away i wouldnt take it on anyway.not worth it unless your earning £40-£50 an hour(including travel time).
i prefer local small businesses(nurseries,financial consultants,care homes etc)and posh domestics where its easy to earn £40-£60 an hour with very little travel time.
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There you go ;D
Do many £400+ days Dazmond?
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dave do you want to come out for the day with me?
yes i do earn £40-£60 an hour on some work.obviously not all day every day.the compact estate work is cheaper but im slowly creeping them up.
im also well established and work some very posh areas.
and what is wrong with saving up for a van instead of having monthly payments every month?
the heater was causing me problems but ive not ruled out installing it into my new van.
i dont earn a fortune as i work on my own but i do ok for a sole trader.
i can easily afford £50 a month on gas but why if cold does the same job(most of the time).
i spend big on poles but try and keep other costs to a minimum.
i also have my own flat,bills and another vehicle to run.i also like holidays,nice restaurants etc.
anyway i dont need to explain to you dave how i live my life and run my business.
im not a bullpoopter either.
regards
dazmond
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There you go ;D
Do many £400 days Dazmond?
People get confused with their average day vs their best day. I average about £467 a day, or was that my best day?! I cant remember now, either way i earn about £50 an hour or was that just one hour a day, i cant remember. Either way i don't earn less than £400 a day and work less than 6 hours! Hang on that's £66 per hour. I wouldn't do that job for less than £40 and it would take no more than 20 minutes, hang on that means i earn £120 an hour. That's my new average.
Not aimed at anyone, just the mindless dribble i have to listen to or read sometimes in the magical world of bull poop i mean window cleaning.
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Spot on.
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dave ive never earned £400 a day ever in 21 years of window cleaning.
my highest was £320 gutter clearing many years ago! ;D
i do hit £250-£280 some days but they are not every day.
im always trying to improve my round but i only work (actually window cleaning)5 or 6 hours a day.
i get bored or tired after 3 or 4pm.most people would after 21 years of window cleaning!! ;D
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So you don't actually earn £40 - £60 an hour then do you?
Dazmond wake up and smell the coffee.
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I think old Dazmondo was saying he earnt £40 a hour on a certain type
of work not necessarily across an average day,week,month etc.
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this thread is about a price for a commercial job not run of the mill domestic!
i do price them higher.same for posh larger domestics and add on jobs.
i have a lot of experience and i know what im doing these days in regards to what i want for certain jobs.
dave seriously mate £40-£60 an hour is nothing special.its my aim and is achievable with the right work.
also even this (in your words unbelievable)is not what you take home.factoring all the other expenses of running a business its a lot lower.
will i be a millionaire?no never but i do try and improve my lot rather than having a dig at anyone who tries to raise their income and worth in this game.
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THIS IS PRICING A COMMERCIAL JOB!!
so dave do you price on time or amount of windows?
i price on time.so i price on the thought "i want £40-£60 an hour(or whatever) for certain jobs.
same for add ons.usually i price up £50-£60 an hour and achieve it most of the time these days.
eg. mrs smith wants her F/S/G cleaned on her 3 bed semi.i price it up at £50 or £60.i KNOW these jobs take around an hour(sometimes less)as ive done loads of em over the last few years.
obviously MY AVERAGE HOURLY RATE OVER THE COURSE OF A WEEK IS A LOT LOWER but you have to price higher for jobs to still get a decent hourly rate over the course of the day/week/year.
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I can't be bothered to argue - off to work now but read what you have written again slowly from the beginning. You are deluded man.
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im certainly not "deluded" mate.i know what im doing through years of experience.
better get out there myself! ;D
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Big difference between turn over and profit many on here think there the same
Dave you are spot on,
If I took home 40 to 60per hour i think I would be doing better than a 500 quid van, a flat And a ford probe
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Can't understand the logic?
Well the logic is that some half wits think that £50 an hour should be the going rate. The bigger companies who employ can send a guy out and pay him £7 an hour, charge the customer say £15 an hour and still turnover a profit from the comfort of their swing chair.
The laugh is that the guys spouting off their fabulous hourly rates of £50, £60 an hour and above are sat at home most of the time saving for their new van that they haven't got and ripping out their hot water systems because they can't afford the £10 a week gas. "I had a few £50 houses to do this morning" - brilliant!
That's why this forum is such a laugh I love it. ;D
Those guys earning £7 an hour will most likely do a crap job - you get what you pay for .
Im not sure why your attacking dazmond - he comes across to me as one of the honest ones on here rather than a bull poope millionaire.
if his average day is £200 and he is doing 5 hour days that is indeed £40 an hour turnover .
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I believe you Daz. I have one job where I earn about £100 an hour if I get my skates on - but it's only 18 hours spread across the year. I have other jobs at around £25 that I can do in 20 minutes. Is this typical? No! Could it be typical if I got off my bum and canvassed more? Yes! I never did a £400 either. Funnily enough my best was £399 :) . It was a long day and such hard graft that I vowed never to do that again. I also have work where it's nearer £25 an hour. My yearly turnover doesn't reflect those rates as I like to have a bit of time off and do shorter days quite a lot.
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I wonder if lads who post what their top day is would post how many litres they used to get it (WFP obviously)
And how many glass hours it took.
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And how many glass hours it took.
Do you need an hour glass for that?
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Uk commercial cleaning offered me a job a few months back.They told me it was a superb hourly rate of £6.45 per hour with a cracking bonus of £5 for every fourth job you complete in a day !!!!!
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Uk commercial cleaning offered me a job a few months back.They told me it was a superb hourly rate of £6.45 per hour with a cracking bonus of £5 for every fourth job you complete in a day !!!!!
;D no doubt some mug will do it to line their pockets.
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Uk commercial cleaning offered me a job a few months back.They told me it was a superb hourly rate of £6.45 per hour with a cracking bonus of £5 for every fourth job you complete in a day !!!!!
That's how they can afford to charge the crazy low prices that they do.
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At UK Commercial Cleaning Solutions, we have the capacity to clean windows in any premises of any height, using a range of high level access methods including our top of the range system called the Wash and Reach, this system sends purified water up a large pole cleaning the windows leaving them extremely clean. Of course we can also offer a traditional window cleaning services using ladders, mop and squeegee, but only to the height of 2 storeys by law.We also pay our subcontractors a crap hourly rate so you will get a crap job but we are so cheap you wont complain. ;)
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ooooooh they have a top of the range system.
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"Wash and Reach"
::)roll
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i dont type about how much i earn ::)roll there's no need to tell anyone and its non of there business just keep it to yourself!
Just a load of show offs who probably don't even earn half they say :-\
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Big difference between turn over and profit many on here think there the same
Dave you are spot on,
If I took home 40 to 60per hour i think I would be doing better than a 500 quid van, a flat And a ford probe
Below the belt :(
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Big difference between turn over and profit many on here think there the same
Dave you are spot on,
If I took home 40 to 60per hour i think I would be doing better than a 500 quid van, a flat And a ford probe
To be fair you can't relate how much money someone has to the things they own.
I know a lot of people that have much more money than I do, but also live in a not so nice area and drive cars worth a few hundred quid.
Money doesn't have to be spent just in houses and vehicles.
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My financial status is pretty okay so that most of the year i only
work part time my house is paid for etc.
But i still only drive a £500 astra estate :)