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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on February 19, 2014, 06:51:21 pm
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so guys whats the maximum amount you ve ever paid for a van or car?
mine is £1,400(kangoo bought 4 years ago). ;D
before the kangoo id never paid more than £800 for a car/van.all of them have been at least 10 years old and usually last me around 4 or 5 years with minimum repairs to keep them on the road.
ive spent over 2 grand on poles,brushes and goosenecks and this time ive got 4 or 5 grand to spend on my next van.
i bought a 2.5 V6 car for a grand nearly 2 years ago and spent £2,500 on 2 drum kits(electronic and acoustic kits and cymbals! ;D).
ive never felt the need to spend much on vehicles as i have a good garage that have been servicing all my vans and cars for over 20 years now and are pretty cheap.
obviously im a bit wary about spending so much on a van that only does 3000 miles a year max but i need a bigger van that will last me 5 years.
the way some of you are talking on another thread you d think the only van ill get with 5 grand is a "lemon"! ::)roll ;D
this is a big investment for me.after shelling out on carbon poles and all my other equipment,new 500L tank and
frame and getting it vinyl wrapped etc ill have spent over 10 GRAND on van and equipment just to clean windows!! ;D ;D
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£14,500
Seat leon Fr TDI 170bhp
4 months old with 2000 miles on it.
It's giving me grief now. Lol. It is 5 years old though. Great car.
About half that for my current van.
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5.5k (in 2005) for a Subaru Impreza :o
2k for a van ;D
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I paid £7500 five years ago for an 1 year old Dispatch with 15000 miles on the clock.
It was around the time of the crash and you could get a good van on the cheap.
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£12k in 2003 for a 2001 S Type Jag.
Current van cost £5k three years ago. Boxer.
Face it Daz, you're a tight northern git. ;D
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Face it Daz, you're a tight northern git. ;D
;D ;D ;D (Daz style) ;D
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I paid £80 for a Talbot Alpine a long time ago, I thought it was a bad car until I had saved up for an Austin Montego :o
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I havent paid more than £500 for a vehicle in the last eight years
and each one has given me at least two years service with only
wear and tear to deal with,tyres etc
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I paid £80 for a Talbot Alpine a long time ago, I thought it was a bad car until I had saved up for an Austin Montego :o
;D ;D ;D
You never got the pleasure of owning a Leyland Marina then? I never did but the company I worked for had a fleet of company cars half Marinas' and half Cortinas. I know of a few who resigned when they were presented with their new Marina. There were some horror stories with those.
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I had a Hillman Avenger (£80) and dreamed of owning a Marina. Then I bought one, an 1800 TC (I think).. loved it!!
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i dont think im tight at all but ive never had to spend much on vehicles.i look after them and keep them nice and clean.a few little repairs here and there.
maybe ive just been lucky!
the thought of spending say £15,000 on any car or van just doesnt interest me.id rather go on a few decent holidays and buy some new furniture and electronic gadgets for my flat!
take the car i bought for a grand a few years ago.its virtually immaculate with heated leather seats,aircon etc and the 2.5 V6 engine has some guts!i absolutely love driving it after using the van all day!its done just over 100,000 miles but i reckon its got another 20,000 or 30,000 miles left in it for sure!i hammer it sometimes as well! ;D
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Most I've spent on a car is £10,000 ish.
Most I've spent on a van is £10,000 ish.
A customer of mine has just bought a new car........list price is £152,000 :o
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25K.
Transit custom and system.
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12k van & 9k car
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£3.5k - 06 transit van t280, 39k on clock. Factory fitted steel bulkhead, reverse sensors, some fancy pants alarm system fitted.
Was very well looked after, no rust underneath, ply lined etc...
(Private sale, got a bit lucky as bloke didnt know much about motors so managed to knock him down a fair bit)
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I paid £80 for a Talbot Alpine a long time ago, I thought it was a bad car until I had saved up for an Austin Montego :o
You woz robbed. ;D
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Daz,
Buy a 5 / 6 year old Toyota Hiace... Very very reliable and they hold their value.
I had a 2001 Hiace - I bought it 2 years ago for £1600 and sold it at the weekend for £1950 !!! It never ever went wrong in the 2 years I had it... I only sold it as I needed a LWB (I have a Vivaro now) - but my next van will be a newer LWB Hiace.
Andy
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Car-cost me a lot! I did have to save up for 3 years for it though. Filling up costs more than some guys have paid for vehicles in this thread!
Van was about £15k
Daz, you're missing an important element bud-the money you spend on a van is tax deductible. Try not to look at as £5k coming out of your pocket but a £5k spend on company vehicle-you just happen to own the company.
That's why lads do leasing, (It is slightly different but you get my point-i hope) because the whole lot spent is tax deductible that year.
I know you're not doing many miles but you're out in it all day, right?
Lots of little journey's, probably on a cold engine, will do different damage to your engine than long journey's.
And your suspension will be shot from carrying weight all the time.
A high miler may be ok, it may not. That's the trouble with 2nd hand vans-you just have to hope for the best.
I'd say you'd be better off with a 1,200kg payload Expert/Dispatch/Scudo. They're great little vans. Will carry your weight and will be bigger than your Kangoo.
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Seriously though, I think the times are changing with regard to buying second hand vehicles.
You may pick up a 'bargain' tdci Mondeo only to find that it wants a new set of injectors at £700.00 + labour to fit, not including diagnosis charges. What about £350 for a reconditioned injector pump?
I'm not sure you can risk buying an old banger these days unless you know the vehicle.
Old diesel engines were bullet proof. Nowdays with all this computerised technology, you are left very vunerable if things go wrong. See how many current model vehicles are advertised on ebay being broken for spare parts with no accident damage. Are many of these being 'written off' due to not being economical to repair?
I have made the point before - how long before petrol engines find their way back into the commercial market as diesels are becoming to expensive to maintain after the warranty period expires?
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25K.
Transit custom and system.
Matt, did you buy outright or hp? Your verdict on the Custom?
Thanks
Tom
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darren i get where your coming from but seriously do you think short journeys damage the engine and knacker suspensions?i dont.
my kangoo is right on its payload every day (if not slightly overweight)and has been for 4 years now!nowt wrong with the engine or suspension and its 14 years old.
also im of the opinion that having water all over the van floor doesnt rust the metal!i have water in the footwells all the time,water all over the back of the van every day!!
and guess what?NO RUST!! ;D ;D
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No mate, short journeys will do more damage to your engine if you're always cold but for lower milage like you're doing it may never make a difference.
Suspension, i meant the weight of water, not journey time. Sorry.
Rust-depends on the van.
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£12,000 about a week ago ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1392839908_009.JPG)
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Take no notice of them daz, you and gary have exactly the right idea!. Bangernomics, that is the way to go, buy a cheap car, or van, use it till it dies, then throw it away, and get another. Simples!.
A brand new mid range mondeo or insignia will loose over £300 per month on depreciation, a brand new audi a5 will loose even more (although it is a smaller percentage of its value).
The most i have ever paid for a car was £1300 for a saab 99 and i didnt like it half as much as the first 99 i had, which only cost £350!. Cheapest car i ever bought was a lada 1600 saloon for £25, absolutely loved it!.
My current van, a transit connect, cost £6k and i cant see myself spending much more than that on its replacement. The iveco daily i had before that cost £1500. But a long time ago i did own a suzuki st90 (predecessor to the supercarry), paid £800 for that and loved it.
I have not bought a car for a long time though, as my wife gets a motability car.
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van £4000 car £15000
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james its a nice van but £12,000 really? ::)roll
then you try and scratch around for a tank cos you think £200 is too much for a brand new 400L tank?
FAIR PLAY its your money but i dont get the logic! ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
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I am buying a solar powered van when they come out ;D
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I am buying a solar powered van when they come out ;D
You won't be able to clean it.
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I am buying a solar powered van when they come out ;D
You won't be able to clean it.
we know a man who could, ;D
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james its a nice van but £12,000 really? ::)roll
then you try and scratch around for a tank cos you think £200 is too much for a brand new 400L tank?
FAIR PLAY its your money but i dont get the logic! ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
Ive given in mate, and am collecting a new 400ltr tank on the weekend ;D
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I am buying a solar powered van when they come out ;D
You won't be able to clean it.
we know a man who could, ;D
Not without a RAMS you dont
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james its a nice van but £12,000 really? ::)roll
then you try and scratch around for a tank cos you think £200 is too much for a brand new 400L tank?
FAIR PLAY its your money but i dont get the logic! ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
Also Daz... I never said £200 was too much for a tank.
I said that id been offered another tank for a fraction of the price of a new one, thus saving about £100 ;)
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I am buying a solar powered van when they come out ;D
You won't be able to clean it.
we know a man who could, ;D
Not without a RAMS you dont
....unless it's a rush job. ;D
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28k for my current transit ;D and it looks the dogs danglies
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£12000,£ 25000,£28000 all vans do the same thing whats all your expensive vans do what a £5000 van cant do , I personally dont think buying new is worth it vans n cars just depreciate to quickly , ive had my 06 vivaro 5 years and will probably have it another five years does the same job as a brand new one ,
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The max for a van - I bought an ex 03 BT transit connect in 04 for £5 000 with 9 000 on the clock.
I've now had it almost 10 years and 160 000 miles later, apart from the usual, brake pads, etc, the only major repairs were a cam belt, £220 and recently, had the gear box done £800.
The most I've ever paid for a car, £20 for a Ford Anglia years and years ago.
I've always bought vans and the worst van ever was a Leyland Sherpa bought new. What a complete waste of money and what a nightmare. After two weeks one of the doors fell off. From there on, it got worse.
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25K.
Transit custom and system.
Matt, did you buy outright or hp? Your verdict on the Custom?
Thanks
Tom
Nice vehicle tom. Love it. I bought it with credit, a ford loan. Interest free.
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iv always been in the 10 year old van bracket .
almost bought a new berlingo crewvan last summer but it turns out it was too cramped inside with crazy add ons and uncomfy seating so i decided against it . i knew instantly it would be hated by my workers who like the recliners in the back of my current berlingo
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£12,000 about a week ago ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1392839908_009.JPG)
far too small.
you cant expand with that little van.
what size tank you put in that?
How many workers?
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No mate, short journeys will do more damage to your engine if you're always cold but for lower milage like you're doing it may never make a difference.
Suspension, i meant the weight of water, not journey time. Sorry.
Rust-depends on the van.
Dirty mate tell me if im wrong,i would of thought that a new engine
would be more sensitive to lower milage and constantly being cold
than a engine thats done a decent amount of miles and is properly
run in.
I cant count the amount of times ive been up and down the motorway
to bournemouth in the last year with my eldest at uni there in my
14 yr old astra estate without a problem and seen a myriad of broken
down new motors on the hard shoulder. ;D
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£12,000 about a week ago ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1392839908_009.JPG)
far too small.
you cant expand with that little van.
what size tank you put in that?
How many workers?
+1
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Only ever had 1 car a grandad wagon rover 214 paid £125 for it
most paid for a van 2.5k for my old combo and my current vivaro
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£12,000 about a week ago ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1392839908_009.JPG)
far too small.
you cant expand with that little van.
what size tank you put in that?
How many workers?
+1
I cant expand? No course not.
I will be doubling my tank size, almost, and going 2 man.
Is that not expanding?
::)roll
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More than has been mentioned already :P :P :P . Mike
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15k transporter
5k audi a3
All a waste of money really 5k for both would of been just fine I guess.. Always spend more on my van because (no van no work no money) 😄
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£12,000 about a week ago ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1392839908_009.JPG)
far too small.
you cant expand with that little van.
what size tank you put in that?
How many workers?
+1
2 man with that payload.
I use 500 litres a day on my own so would need atleast 800 litres for a 2 man but with my van I have 1200 kg payload so im fine.
berlingo/partner is a one man van.
when you realise you need a bigger van with a bigger payload you will lose lots of cash pxing your little van.
I cant expand? No course not.
I will be doubling my tank size, almost, and going 2 man.
Is that not expanding?
::)roll
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James-do you mind if I ask how old you are?
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Car- bought a porsche carrera 4 in 2002 (10 months old) paid £64,000
Van- transit t330 100 ps rear wheal drive 2011 (bought new) £19,900
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Car- bought a porsche carrera 4 in 2002 (10 months old) paid £64,000
Van- transit t330 100 ps rear wheal drive 2011 (bought new) £19,900
Lend us a tenner ;D
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Sorry mate don't carry tenners......just fiftys!!!!
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Sorry mate don't carry tenners......just fiftys!!!!
;)
I ain't proud. Send me some of them!
My wallets too small but the wife's purse has space.
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Car x5 new in 2005 £56000
Van merc vito dauliner just under £30000
So I think that just puts me in front east clean lol
Sold x5 in 2008 with 22,000 mile for £23500
It's all about what ya like I personally love having a new motor and don't mind paying the money where others would rather spend they cash in other ways it wouldn't do if we were all the same would it
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£2,500 for my Ranger 2 years ago. Weirdly, still haven't seen one this cheap.
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£12,000 about a week ago ;D
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1392839908_009.JPG)
far too small.
you cant expand with that little van.
what size tank you put in that?
How many workers?
+1
2 man with that payload.
I use 500 litres a day on my own so would need atleast 800 litres for a 2 man but with my van I have 1200 kg payload so im fine.
berlingo/partner is a one man van.
when you realise you need a bigger van with a bigger payload you will lose lots of cash pxing your little van.
I cant expand? No course not.
I will be doubling my tank size, almost, and going 2 man.
Is that not expanding?
::)roll
Like ive said before, my round is on my doorstep and very compact so filling up if needs be half way thru the day isnt an issue.
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James-do you mind if I ask how old you are?
28, why?
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James-do you mind if I ask how old you are?
28, why?
I thought you were fairly young. (I'm 31)
And was just gonna say, ignore the posts about the van being too small from those that wish to run their business in a different way to you.
You've got a great van, suitable for your work. You could do 1000l in a day with only one stop to refill.
Don't let the negativity get to you and crack on bud!
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Most I've paid is £8k for my current van. The system in it was a bit more.
The least I've ever paid was £45 for something that people told me was a car. Mind you, that was back in the mid 70s.
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James-do you mind if I ask how old you are?
28, why?
I thought you were fairly young. (I'm 31)
And was just gonna say, ignore the posts about the van being too small from those that wish to run their business in a different way to you.
You've got a great van, suitable for your work. You could do 1000l in a day with only one stop to refill.
Don't let the negativity get to you and crack on bud!
Cheers mate.
There was a certain criteria that had to be met in order for me to purchase this van, as I also want a van that looks the part, which this one does.
Ive done the maths with regards to payload, I know that the tank im getting Monday morning fits, I know i'll have enough room for the other equipment that ill need.
Im also scratching my head how ive made the wrong decision?! :o
Jealousy perhaps?
Enough on my bad van decisions anyway, this is Daz's thread. ;D
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is it not better to have your employee to trad ground floor windows while you pole tops?rather than have 2 hose reels and 2 poles etc?then 400L would last you a day.no messing about going home at lunch etc.
i dont know but is having 2 wfps out of one small van that much quicker?ive never tried it.2 lots of hose going across roads etc?
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is it not better to have your employee to trad ground floor windows while you pole tops?rather than have 2 hose reels and 2 poles etc?then 400L would last you a day.no messing about going home at lunch etc.
i dont know but is having 2 wfps out of one small van that much quicker?ive never tried it.2 lots of hose going across roads etc?
This is what we do at the moment Daz, but he poles and I trad ;)
When I get the 2nd setup, id only use it on are estate work, and roads where we have loads on the same estate/street.
Some very large properties we do it would pay to use 2 poles.
Theres still a load of work that would be quickest just to pole tops and trad bottoms, the same as we have work thats quicker just to get the ladder off.
Diffrent methods work for diffrent houses, and diffrent people.
We all work in diffrent ways, and you need to find whats works best for you.
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Daz
With the low mileage you are doing on newer vans it can cause problems with the diesel particulate filter (if it has one), they burn off the soot when the exhaust is at high temps on longer runs .
Doing only short runs can block them .
so it would be worth you doing some research to find a van that suits and doesn't have a dpf.
They cost a bomb to replace(from experience with my volvo s40) and the vehicle will go into limp mode meaning you can't work.
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James-do you mind if I ask how old you are?
28, why?
I thought you were fairly young. (I'm 31)
And was just gonna say, ignore the posts about the van being too small from those that wish to run their business in a different way to you.
You've got a great van, suitable for your work. You could do 1000l in a day with only one stop to refill.
Don't let the negativity get to you and crack on bud!
Cheers mate.
There was a certain criteria that had to be met in order for me to purchase this van, as I also want a van that looks the part, which this one does.
Ive done the maths with regards to payload, I know that the tank im getting Monday morning fits, I know i'll have enough room for the other equipment that ill need.
Im also scratching my head how ive made the wrong decision?! :o
Jealousy perhaps?
Enough on my bad van decisions anyway, this is Daz's thread. ;D
Not jealously fella just a observation.
I have the lwb dispatch so why would I be jealous?
I made mistakes with small vans before.
Just know what its like when you buy a little van and after a month you realise its too small.
All the best.
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robert i could always go and see my mate in lancaster in the new van and clean his windows while im there every so often!its a good 100 mile round trip! ;) ;D
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As long as you do it once every month or two :-)
Better if you can find one without a dpf though .
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30K for car & around £23K for my transit custom as I lease the tranny for 5 years then pay a balloon payment and will keep it.
Personally I need a new van with no mileage as we do so many miles so gotta last me for many years, don't wanna buy van with mileage on it as it would be knackerd after a few years
We drive to Felixstowe, Cambridge,Dover, Leister which is 2 and a half hours away as we're based in Essex. Also cover east, north & South London so do lots of mileage and lots of fuel.
It's nice driving all these miles in comfort so guess I'm lucky really 👳👳👳
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10k plus vat for my van brand new,
had old banger vans in the past and would never buy 2nd hand again only new, had enough of the repair bills and driving round in a bag of nails
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I'd rather buy cheap and keep costs down.very little driving about.good short flexible hours.
Better work /life balance and still earn well without higher overheads. :)
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dazmond, listen to the person who said about dpf filters, you dont want a van with one with your low mileage mate, forte do do a dpf cleaner but i have limited experience with it,
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But Daz, you could buy a second hand with mileage and spend a fortune on repairs?
Ive always had second hand, and always spent quite a bit on repairs.
As this is my 10th year trading, my new purchase is a cheeky little present for myself ;D
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Funnily enough in my tenth year of trading I treated myself to brand new.
Just top the washer bottle up now and again, service once a year, never looked back.
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Funnily enough in my tenth year of trading I treated myself to brand new.
Just top the washer bottle up now and again, service once a year, never looked back.
Ive had it a week so havent even topped up the washer yet haha
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robert i could always go and see my mate in lancaster in the new van and clean his windows while im there every so often!its a good 100 mile round trip! ;) ;D
That might not be enough my last motor which was about 4 years old at the time got to a point where the DPF became clogged every 3 weeks .
Failure to act promptly which is driving at a constant speed of about 40mph until the warning light goes out which means you could spend 30 mins driving around , After complaining numerous times to the dealership i bought it from and which i had bought 3 previous motors from over the years i managed to get rid .
I would not buy any motor with a DPF no way no how . Mike
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its easy enough to get the dpf removed mike
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where would you find on van spec if it has a dpf filter, its not something you seem to check on,
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44k on a car (not recently :( ) 14k on a van.
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The most I have paid for a van is £995 for my current van, a 1999 Fiesta 1.8 35, bought 4 years ago.
The cheapest was £54 for its predecessor, a 1988 Fiesta Mk2 van.
My current van has had a fair bit spent on it, and just needs a few bits doing to sort it, although it is running well. Bodywise it's in excellent shape, and I have had numerous offers to buy it, but it's a keeper.
The Mk2 lasted 3 years in my ownership and cost pennies to run. I had another Mk2 van prior to that which was in better nick than its successor, and which I would probably still have today had it not been stolen and written off.
John
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Funnily enough in my tenth year of trading I treated myself to brand new.
Just top the washer bottle up now and again, service once a year, never looked back.
+1.
Never bought brand new before. Love it.
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you will find i think that all new vehicles (diesel) will now have a dpf , some are better than others and they are improving but they are very expensive when they go wrong .
they can be removed but on some vehicle it needs to be removed from the software on the vehicle too .
they are a pain in the ass