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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ants on January 08, 2014, 09:08:35 pm
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Has anyone done this?
I clean a few really big properties and decided today I would be quicker with my old trolley.
The hose as we all know gets caught on everything and when the house has a 15/20 metre drive and you have to get round all 4 sides, its gotta be better with a trolley.
Also would be better for the dog crap houses
And for on site builders cleans when its like a mud bath.
I just need to buy a new pump and controller for it cos I used it for replacement parts
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Van mount all the way!
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Van mount all the way!
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Have both for both situations
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how much water does your trolley hold though ?
I must admit that i like using my backpack for situations such as those you have mentioned and indeed it is quicker, but there is nothing more frustrating than having to work with a lower flow rate so as not to run out of water when the job may require extra scrubbing or rinsing. Because of this reason I prefer to have both and have the option.
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ants how long have you been using a van mount for?
it takes a few months to get used to 100m of hose
also do you use microbore?as its lighter than minibore.
NO WAY would i EVER go back to using a trolley.van mount is easier on all my work.i used one for a year before buying a tank.
yes the hose sometimes annoys me but better than lugging 10 barrels about which is what i did for a year! ::)roll ;D
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Those few really big houses will mean you will be waliking back and forth 2-3 times changing containers .
Their is no way i would go back to trolley it is 2-3 harder graft and more chance of hurting back .
Providing you lay your hose out properly when moving around houses and use the right technique when heading back to truck or van then i am lucky if hose gets snagged once a week . Mike
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ants how long have you been using a van mount for?
it takes a few months to get used to 100m of hose
also do you use microbore?as its lighter than minibore.
NO WAY would i EVER go back to using a trolley.van mount is easier on all my work.i used one for a year before buying a tank.
yes the hose sometimes annoys me but better than lugging 10 barrels about which is what i did for a year! ::)roll ;D
But Daz I am sure some people use a van mounted tank and bilge pump to refill a trolley or backpack quickly, no need nescessarily to be lugging barrels about.
I am quite intersested in this idea as I maybe inclined to use my backpack more often especially in busy streets or where parking is an issue - i currently fill my backpack via my microbore reel and that can take a good 5 mins !
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I use my trolley for about 60% of my work.
I find it easier. Mine is a cheapo Maplins trolley, barrel, with a small pump and small battery on a bit of ply that sits on top held in place with velcro on the barrel and the underside of the wood.
Easy, light and very portable. From pulling up and walking off with trolley and pole in tow, less than 60 seconds.
My pole hose is about 25m with seems to give me a decent distance without having to keep moving the trolley. Over time, I've got to know exactly the best place to put the trolley on larger jobs and how much water I need.
I also only fill 25ltr barrels with about 20ltrs of water. It's makes them easy to carry.
Obviously, not ever job is suited to using a trolley but especially for my work in East London where sometimes you have no choice but to walk a few hundred metres to get to the job, there is no other way.
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I use a trolley allday long,have van system but only use it for big commercial work.
residential work I prefer the trolley.it takes 2 seconds to throw in and out the van.
theres not many houses I use more than one container.
Also its much safer with the trolley,no hoses everywhere.
25 litre containers are light if you cant carry 2 of them at once theres something wrong.
25 litre container and trolley isnt going to break your back.
Backpacks are also great where access is a issue.
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I use a trolley allday long,have van system but only use it for big commercial work.
residential work I prefer the trolley.it takes 2 seconds to throw in and out the van.
theres not many houses I use more than one container.
Also its much safer with the trolley,no hoses everywhere.
25 litre containers are light if you cant carry 2 of them at once theres something wrong.
25 litre container and trolley isnt going to break your back.
Backpacks are also great where access is a issue.
That depends on how strong you are, your size, etc, Not everyone is a natural superman and just because someone cannot carry 2 lots of 25ltrs, doesn’t mean something is wrong. My missus works with me sometimes and she cannot carry 20ltr so is there something wrong with her too?
I can carry 2 times 20ltrs but not 2 times 25ltrs. One 20ltr barrel is a doddle.
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I'm using the trolley as well now but occasionally attach the hose to it, I can place my hose reel side by side to it and attach straight on if the house is awkward for a trolley
Graham
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i think your all bonkers!but each to their own! ;D ;D ;D ;D
its easier to get a hose to a job than a trolley 90% of the time.even if space is restricted.
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I use a backpack on 60 percent of my work van mount on 40 percent and my trolley on 0 percent.
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I use a trolley allday long,have van system but only use it for big commercial work.
residential work I prefer the trolley.it takes 2 seconds to throw in and out the van.
theres not many houses I use more than one container.
Also its much safer with the trolley,no hoses everywhere.
25 litre containers are light if you cant carry 2 of them at once theres something wrong.
I have some 35 litres bottles can carry 2 of them easy too
25 litre container and trolley isnt going to break your back.
Backpacks are also great where access is a issue.
That depends on how strong you are, your size, etc, Not everyone is a natural superman and just because someone cannot carry 2 lots of 25ltrs, doesn’t mean something is wrong. My missus works with me sometimes and she cannot carry 20ltr so is there something wrong with her too?
I can carry 2 times 20ltrs but not 2 times 25ltrs. One 20ltr barrel is a doddle.
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It depends on trolley vs backpack hose reel vs just backpack.
I used that setup for nearly 2 years and could really race through work.
I use a bilge pump in my tank and can fill a trolley in 30 secs or less.
I have now gone over to a van mount and have been for a few months.
I cannot see what all the fuss is about with "YOU MUST get a van mount"
If you are running cold then trolley vs backpack/hose reel vs just backpack vs van mount will probably be minutes saved or lost through the day. Not hours!
I have gone to a van mount as a company we are going hot, so needs must but that's not through choice.
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Trollies are useless on coastal properties u need a lot of water to rinse
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Trollies are useless on coastal properties u need a lot of water to rinse
I live on the coast and trolleys are more than adequate.
Maybe you need a new brush or scrub harder??
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Trollies are useless on coastal properties u need a lot of water to rinse
I live on the coast and trolleys are more than adequate.
Maybe you need a new brush or scrub harder??
Same here. I've been working all day along the coastline or within wind borne salt distance and some houses today had windows that you could hardly see out from and using a trolley for most of them.
I turn the flow right down very low, give a good scrub, rinse with the flow low, wait for it to drain down or scrub other windows, etc, then rinse with the flow as normal.
I have maybe been using 20-30% more water.
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im slightly slower over the course of a day on 70% of my work
using backpack compared to when i used a van mount.
but i am miles happier,i couldnt stand the microbore the
constant snagging and dragging it through god knows what
Trollies are crap though ;D
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Neat trolley that mate....nice :).
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That's my dads. Mine was little more techy techy.
Wireless on and off. Small solar panel etc.
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Sorry I didn't mean to go back to the trolley full time ;)
I meant, to repair my trolley that's been sat in my garage for 6 years and use it on the big houses, and others with hose issues
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I switched back to trolley as I multitask the van for other services, easier to swap my stuff over
Graham
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I know this is an old ish topic but I'm considering going back to filling my backpack from the tank. I don't want to get into any long convos I would just like to know how to put a bilge pump in my tank to fill a back pack quickly. Does it just plop in the tank. Can I hook it up to any battery????
Many thanks in advance
James
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i think your all bonkers!but each to their own! ;D ;D ;D ;D
its easier to get a hose to a job than a trolley 90% of the time.even if space is restricted.
I went from vanmount to backpack..i hated the microbore constant
snagging people parking on it etc
im a little slower but far happier :)
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Providing you lay your hose out properly when moving around houses and use the right technique when heading back to truck or van
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There's a knack to laying your hose out and reeling in. I've got it. Wor Lass just ends up in a right state with 60 meters of tangles and mess. She's only been doing it for years, bless her.
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I had a 2 inch pipe connected to the outlet at the bottom of the tank, and it can fill a 19 litre backpack in 30 seconds.
Purefreedom did it when they fitted the system, and it comes in really handy sometimes ;D
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I use a trolley allday long,have van system but only use it for big commercial work.
residential work I prefer the trolley.it takes 2 seconds to throw in and out the van.
theres not many houses I use more than one container.
Also its much safer with the trolley,no hoses everywhere.
25 litre containers are light if you cant carry 2 of them at once theres something wrong.
25 litre container and trolley isnt going to break your back.
Backpacks are also great where access is a issue.
That depends on how strong you are, your size, etc, Not everyone is a natural superman and just because someone cannot carry 2 lots of 25ltrs, doesn’t mean something is wrong.
It also depends if there is any water in them.