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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on November 15, 2013, 09:08:23 pm
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this is by no means the cheapest way of installing and fitting a gas hot water system but heres my list for those of you that are thinking of adding hot water to your system for winter.
corwoods E-Z heater(L5) with no 20 min cut off £180
13kg LPG bottle(from local DIY shop) £35
car radiator hose(from any car spares shop)1m £5
rectus 26/QR gardiner fittings £40
LPG stickers,gas bottle strap £7
radashe koreel hi vis 100 reel(corwoods) £230
brass fittings for reel £13
so its cost me around £500 to be up and running with robust fittings,connections and a decent reel that can withstand the hot water.
i did foolishly buy the wrong heater on ebay so its cost me £63 for a natural gas heater which is in my dads garage! ::)roll.i also bought washing machine hose and boiler hose for hot outlet to reel which was also a waste of money.both are rubbish for hot water so that was about £16 wasted.
i already had 100m of thermobore and aqua daptor red pole hose(specifically made for hot) and oh i spent a tenner on a big thick piece of plywood to mount heater on and some heatproof insulation(£2).
ive still got to get a small fire extinguisher which ive not bought yet.
i also spent £120 on 4 new gardiner stiff brushes for the hot water although i think youll be fine if your just using it lukewarm to stop hoses freezing.
its been a bit frustrating over the last few weeks with connectors blowing off/fiddling with settings and then my accident but its a learning curve! ;)
hopefully ill be back up and running again on monday morning! ;D ;D
best wishes to you all
dazmond
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well done dazz
great help to every1 ;-)
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Wait 'till you run out of gas and your hose turns to wire. You won't want cold water again. ;)
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one more piece of equipment i nearly forgot!a decent food flask for hot soup/stew on cold frosty days! ;D ;D ;D
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£16.99. 20 minutes to fit it, heat's the water supery doopery, it's permanent. Job done. To hell with all that gas and boiler palava.
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this is by no means the cheapest way of installing and fitting a gas hot water system but heres my list for those of you that are thinking of adding hot water to your system for winter.
corwoods E-Z heater(L5) with no 20 min cut off £180
13kg LPG bottle(from local DIY shop) £35
car radiator hose(from any car spares shop)1m £5
rectus 26/QR gardiner fittings £40
LPG stickers,gas bottle strap £7
radashe koreel hi vis 100 reel(corwoods) £230
brass fittings for reel £13
so its cost me around £500 to be up and running with robust fittings,connections and a decent reel that can withstand the hot water.
i did foolishly buy the wrong heater on ebay so its cost me £63 for a natural gas heater which is in my dads garage! ::)roll.i also bought washing machine hose and boiler hose for hot outlet to reel which was also a waste of money.both are rubbish for hot water so that was about £16 wasted.
i already had 100m of thermobore and aqua daptor red pole hose(specifically made for hot) and oh i spent a tenner on a big thick piece of plywood to mount heater on and some heatproof insulation(£2).
ive still got to get a small fire extinguisher which ive not bought yet.
i also spent £120 on 4 new gardiner stiff brushes for the hot water although i think youll be fine if your just using it lukewarm to stop hoses freezing.
its been a bit frustrating over the last few weeks with connectors blowing off/fiddling with settings and then my accident but its a learning curve! ;)
hopefully ill be back up and running again on monday morning! ;D ;D
best wishes to you all
dazmond
I don't use hot never felt the need, just being curious, gas is expensive now so how much is a bottle and how long does one last
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13kg -£23
Last two full weeks , 10 full days
£2 a day ??
If minus 2 , gets you working
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13kg -£23
Last two full weeks , 10 full days
£2 a day ??
If minus 2 , gets you working
Last year I worked to minus 12.
Year before minus 14.
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I feel a bit guilty telling you about the washing machine hose daz if it didn't work, it's weird tho I've had mine on for two years now and it hasn't leaked once, we run quite hot as well
graham
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Nice one Daz, good post.
I'm hoping to nip over and see your set up but it will probably not be this week, I'll drop you a text. :)
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I'm gonna buy another 13 kg lpg bottle this week so I have one spare at home so when I run out ill simply nip home and swap bottles.there is no way ill want to work with cold water in winter again!
It's not needed as I worked with cold for 3 and a half years but its so much more comfortable with nice easy supple hoses.ok so say I spend 50quid a month for 4 months a year its only 200 quid.so if I work a week that otherwise I couldnt without hoses freezing etc it covers the cost and I'm in profit.that's how I see it anyway.
I'm also putting up prices in April next year so that will bring in an extra 200-300quid a month.
Fair play Ronnie with heater element but I want piping hot water sometimes for the add ons and minging first cleans and 2 monthly jobs near trees which are actually dirty even on 2 month frequencies.I have quite a lot of em!
You can come and see my set up anytime Danny. ;D
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Graham the washing machine hose I bought from a local DIY shop had a plastic end thread.it just kept leaking and the hose itself went very soft and started to twist!.nevermind it was only a fiver.
Car radiator hose is much better and hardly even warms up with piping hot water through it!!great hose and no leaks.
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Cheers Daz I'm starting to think about going hot, did you fit a flue? If so what was the extra £ ?
Ps. I'm going up to Concept 20 in Wales next Monday for a mate to collect his new hot system, will be interesting to see how they've done it.
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No didn't fit a flue.I just leave one back door open on the heater side.its fitted right near the door.ill be getting a new van next year so I might fit one then.
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i get 19kg bottles for 31 quid it lasts 10 days normally . 62 quid a month -750 ish a year... i like to use hot all year ...does that seem an average cost with you guys? , or am i spending too much ?
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Nice one Daz, good post.
Did you load any photos of your system .
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my flue, still need to leave the door open though
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Ben don't know why you didn't just install on back door as you gotta leave door open and if you get any leaks it will just go on floor outside and not in the van 😜
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Ben don't know why you didn't just install on back door as you gotta leave door open and if you get any leaks it will just go on floor outside and not in the van 😜
because it doesn't look nice on the back door and would have been a pain with hoses IMAO
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How much was the flue Ben?
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It's ok with mine ?
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Ben I was told that when you bend the pipe like that, that the gases go back into the shower and keep putting flame out.
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How much was the flue Ben?
£30 Lee
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190885426508?var=490175582115&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
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Ben I was told that when you bend the pipe like that, that the gases go back into the shower and keep putting flame out.
really? :(
I thought about it but wanted to try, will see tomorrow :-[
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It's ok with mine ?
look good actually
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Ben I was told that when you bend the pipe like that, that the gases go back into the shower and keep putting flame out.
Mine works fine like this.
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How much was the flue Ben?
£30 Lee
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190885426508?var=490175582115&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Thanks
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Let us know Ben how you get on with it, hopefully the flue will work. Normally peeps have a vent in roof where the flue goes straight up. I know what you mean with hoses thou, I've got mine just at the right length and put them in the plastic clips so when you close the door they don't get caught in the door, also put a load of sponges behind so it don't move to much when closing and opening back door. If you see my connectors below shower I just disconnect there to drain out shower so not gotta sod around with the drain screw.
Just bought the thermo red 8mm ID much fatter than the 6mm ID orange thermo hose tried it yesterday and really good. Like I said before I don't have my water really hot just Luke warm of which the thermo holds the heat more than the normal yellow hose
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Lee you got pic of yours m8, I'm glad it works as I heard this on here some years ago which worried me that's why I put mine on back doors. Mind you my reel is screwed down so I've always worked with the back doors open pmsl !!! 😳 back doors open !!!!
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Lee you got pic of yours m8, I'm glad it works as I heard this on here some years ago which worried me that's why I put mine on back doors. Mind you my reel is screwed down so I've always worked with the back doors open pmsl !!! 😳 back doors open !!!!
Here you go Danny
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Did you Fuzzyfelt the inside of your van yourself Lee? ;D looks nice bet it keeps the heat in too ;)
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That looks well Lee cheers for that, I like the hose stand for the 2 reels, was that professionally made Lee or did you buy that.
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That looks well Lee cheers for that, I like the hose stand for the 2 reels, was that professionally made Lee or did you buy that.
I made it myself.
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Did you Fuzzyfelt the inside of your van yourself Lee? ;D looks nice bet it keeps the heat in too ;)
FYI it is not fuzzy felt, it is acoustic carpet ;D
I went a bit anal when I bought the van and went over all the ply lining with it. :o
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Cool nice one Lee, you couldn't make me an iron gate lol !!!
Well done Lee looks good m8
Cheers Danny 😀
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Did you Fuzzyfelt the inside of your van yourself Lee? ;D looks nice bet it keeps the heat in too ;)
FYI it is not fuzzy felt, it is acoustic carpet ;D
I went a bit anal when I bought the van and went over all the ply lining with it. :o
8) Nice job.
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I really fancy venting mine like that, have they been ok? No putting out of the flame etc?
Might be my project next summer, it's on the back door at the minute, but is a bit if a pain with hoses sometimes. Not major but might be easier with a flue.
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Great write up Daz, will help me a lot,we're hoping to get fitted out this week.
I've just picked up a couple of these, didn't notice on your list.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360749774074?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
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Ben I was told that when you bend the pipe like that, that the gases go back into the shower and keep putting flame out.
really? :(
I thought about it but wanted to try, will see tomorrow :-[
perfect,my flue works well! happy with it :)
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Quality posts and advise lads
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Quality posts and advise lads
Definitely. Going to flue mine soon and move the back of the van around. Should be a bit easier in use.