Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Rob_Mac on June 07, 2013, 10:20:56 am
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So close now............................. ;)
Rob ;D
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I know.... i cant sleep at night due to the excitement!
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Item number:171048789859
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FARROW-PATENTED-COATING-REMOVAL-SYSTEM-/171048789859?pt=UK_Air_Tools_and_Compressors&hash=item27d34d6763
Oh happy day ;D ;D ;D ;D
Let's go and earn some cash!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Rob ;D
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Best of luck with it mate.
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Have you bought it mate?
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Lee
I have got the biggest smile on my face. I know it is showing for sale but it has been agreed that it is mine - just got to get the wheelbarrow out for the cash ;)
Rob ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8ADAYBefXE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twPLOL81-Ak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twPLOL81-Ak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbIRKy9xJQY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nuHA8vsn3s
I cannot wait to get this to our unit
Rob ;D
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Best of luck with that , you will need it! Have you ever done any blasting? That smile will soon disappear when you have been wearing that suit for an hour or two in this weather. You will be wetter than a prostitutes crutch.
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I think you fail to understand the principle (I am not surprised by your misunderstanding, it seems to be a trait of yours)
You can wear the suit, if you want but I can assure you, because I know, that it is not required.
When you don't know it is often better to say nothing at all, otherwise you make yourself look...............................
This will be the only reply you, personal to you, will get!
Rob ;D
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I think you fail to understand the principle (I am not surprised by your misunderstanding, it seems to be a trait of yours)
You can wear the suit, if you want but I can assure you, because I know, that it is not required.
When you don't know it is often better to say nothing at all, otherwise you make yourself look...............................
This will be the only reply you, personal to you, will get!
Rob ;D
I agree it is better to say nothing than be proved a fool..the suit/overalls will be an optional extra......but you will need to wear the airfed mask,rip of lenses, and gloves minimum.
I do understand the principle of blasting with glass and water...virtually dust free.But anything powered at 185 cubic feet per minute will require some minimum form PPE ...due to it's nature.
You of all people should realise that the HSE would take a dim view if you turned up for work in you flip flops,thong and your "sand" blaster on the back of your tacho less horse box or four wheel drive (that you now need because you gross out at over 3500kgs).
Ps it's good to have you back ...i missed you xxx
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Phone me if you get it ..i might have some work for it/you.
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Nice one Rob, looks great. I remember you mentioned you were looking at another business a while ago on another post, did you look into dry ice blasting at all mate? how does this compare with that? Or are they for different applications? I bought a van off a guy who did dry ice blasting once and he does chewing gum removal with it
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I am transferring the full amount at some point, early next week and it is being taken off Ebay.
I looked at dry ice and can see that it is very similar, virtually no mess, once the water on this set up gets to boiling, the exhaust runs underneath the water tank (that is what heats it) it will make light work of any surface.
I watched it go a couple of inches into concrete, very quickly, there is different media but the volcanic grit is something else and the residue is nominal, virtually no crap to clear up. When I went to see it an old grinding unit was cleaned back to metal in seconds, the water seems to damp it down. I ain't saying that there isn't any splash-back because there is but not anywhere near what you would get from standard sand blasting.
I think dry ice has even less to clear up but the media has to be used within either a day or two max.
I am getting a lot of people saying we have work for that, keep us informed.
Got a stairwell on a school to do, imminently, once I get it I will decide whether it is going on a flatbed or not.
Rob ;D
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What's the thing in the other picture rob? Looks like a large industrial vacuum but seems to have the delivery hose attached for blasting
Should earn you loads that set up, you can strip classic cars etc. Ive just been looking at the videos, impressive
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Lee
It is a vacuum - didn't pay much attention to it the other night but when it gets to my unit I will be connecting everything up and having a play.
Looking forward to advertising, wood furniture stripping, cars, internal works, all the usual, we have a large marina (canal barges) in Stoke, white line removal, blasting off old render and paint jobs, renewing stone buildings, the local reclaim yard has told me to let them know when I get it because they want some work doing and I already have two jobs booked in that it will be used on.
The pressure washing is great, it has certainly delivered and continues to do so, priced up a store over by Nottingham yesterday, lads in York & London today but I have been flirting with this for some time and I think it will make a lot of money and really rounds the business off.
It isn't the usual add on because it is expensive, there are plenty of people doing it but marketed right it could be a phenomenal investment.
The machine has only done 6 hours work in 2.5 years, dry stored and maintained.
Rob ;D
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Nice one Rob,
If that will remove resiblock of block paving ive got a couple off jobs for you.
Good luck
Simon
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Simon
It almost certainly will. There isn't much it wont shift. I need to look at the pricing structure. I have been told it will use four full bags of media per day, plus cherry for the compressor, then getting it from A to B and labour.
It will almost certainly be a premium price but with the results seen on Ebay then there is no need to expect anything less than complete removal on all surfaces.
I should be picking it up this week and having a mess with it, some practise pieces and then go from there. It will have it's own website but still be traded through the M-CLEAN UK LTD books.
I can get it about locally but the distance work needs to be worked out - I am not going back on tacho.
Are there no strippers for Resiblock??
Rob ;D
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Nice bit of kit there Rob, re the transport you want to be looking at a car transporter/breakdown based vehicle bit lower to the ground.
Heritage sites is what you want to be aiming for with that.
Re the Resiblock remover, Chemicals Ltd do the stuff you need, AS10 I think it is, someone will correct me if it is the wrong product name, but that's the place to get it from.
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AS10 will work but don't get caught washing down the drains...you will get the jail.
Enviromose waterbased is the better choice for Resiblock ...easier to work with and completely bio-degradable although the coating you are removing will need special care for disposal of.
Resiblock and other pu,s can be removed at around £20 per sqm.
Absolutely no need for any form blasting.If the coating is harder than the substrate you WILL damage the substrate.
Most architects dealing with English heritage,Natural England etc will be specific the TORC system is used...Brian Crowe has that well sown up!
Industrial blasting is were that machine will excel due to fact it can be operated in confined spaces/areas due to it's reduced nuisance factor dust etc .Although noise will always pose problems with neighbours etc.
It used to be that it could be registered as plant...but this needs to be varified with VOSA. The machine needs to be mounted on a chassis cab(5tonner), registered as plant. It will be MOT exempt ,cheap tax and you could/can run it on Vimto.
Bed time reading here http://www.rha.uk.net/services/recovery/news/content/12311/hgv_mot_testing_exemptions
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The two systems are virtually identical - the only difference on the Torc system is that it spins from the nozzle. Your wrong again!
Rob ;D
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Well that's you told then Rob :P
I do agree with Chris that the Resiblock is better removed chemically then blasting though.
Out of interest what is the cost of a bag of media for that set-up, email me if you don't want to put on here.
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I did ask if there was there a stripper for it.
Roger I will email you because he's being annoying again!
Rob ;D
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I did ask if there was there a stripper for it.
Roger I will email you because he's being annoying again!
Rob ;D
And I did answer it AS10 before Chris put his 2 bob's worth in.
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AS10 and the enviromose are good but expensive, I get the same product off a guy who used to supply chemicals limited with the raw materials, he sells the as10 @ £60 and enviromose @ £80 if any one wants any I'll text you the number to the guy, those are cash prices if you want a receipt then VAT will need to be added
Compared to chemicals ltd prices are around £250 for the environmose last time I got a quote for some
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The two systems are virtually identical - the only difference on the Torc system is that it spins from the nozzle. Your wrong again!
Rob ;D
Virtually identical in the fact they both have a hopper...
Why am i being annoying...i thought it was all very relevent and factually correct.Which bit did you disagree with? ???
I am in a good mood and willing to share my expertise with you.
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I have removed my previous post - as it was not in keeping with the thread and I have made my point!
Rob ;D
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It looks a good set up Rob, good luck with it, you should get some good prices with that machine.
I did some Ice blasting for a couple of days once in a British gypsum plant, It was bloody hard sweaty work, but quality of job was superb.
Andrew
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Andrew
And all the other positive people, that have wished me well with this new venture - Many thanks for the comments.
Rob ;D
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I might start supplying the grit for this machine. Atleast try and make some money of the back of Rob ;D
I'll do you a good deal on bulk purchases Rob ;)
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I see a plan. I get dirty, you manage me - without grit in your ears ;D
Rob ;D
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Rob
Been looking at the TORC & Doff system but this looks better! What's the main difference between them and where can you buy the Farrow system from?
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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Rob
Been looking at the TORC & Doff system but this looks better! What's the main difference between them and where can you buy the Farrow system from?
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
You cannot compare the DOFF system against the Farrow.
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So DOFF ;D
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Stonehealth TORC system
The TORC System is a complete stone cleaning system designed and sold exclusively by Stonehealth. It’s an evolution of the Jos system that we first introduced to the market over 20 years ago.
What can TORC be used for?
remove carbon sulphation
remove lime & cement based paints
remove paint residues
remove some old oil based paints
remove bitumen
remove lime scale
How does it work?
The TORC system creates a gentle swirling vortex using a mixture of low air pressure, little water and a safe inert fine granulate.
The Torc Head is modularised into separate components which results in an efficient and gentle swirling vortex using even less water and granulate than the original Jos system.
The removable nozzle cone can easily be changed so that a larger cone can be used to clean large areas such as ashlar or a smaller nozzle cone can be used for more intricate detail such as an elaborate capital or rustications.
The above directly from Stonehealth website
The below directly from the farrow System website
Complete coatings removal, corrosion control, and facilities maintenance.
The Farrow System® excels in lowering costs for both preventive maintenance and repair. Complex industrial infrastructure such as piping, valves, and intricate mechanical/hydraulic machinery can be cleaned quickly and inspected frequently without disassembly or masking. The Farrow System® will remove tough industrial coatings and corrosion without damaging hosing, couplings, and delicate surfaces. This one-step cleaning and surface preparation saves hours of labor in otherwise tedious and difficult maintenance chores.
And because The Farrow System® has ultra-low dispersal characteristics, it can be used in enclosed spaces without affecting nearby equipment or workers. Almost all airborne particulates are eliminated, along with the extensive cleanup required by other cleaning methods. Farrow System® media presents no environmental hazards to guard against, and the low blasting pressures make The Farrow System® doubly safe!
The Farrow System®
is effective for:
Removing industrial coatings for inspections
Preparing surfaces to recoat
Cleaning storage tanks
Removing rust and scale
Removing roadway markings
Building and site maintenance
Contaminants abatement
Offshore corrosion control
Kevin - I haven' used it yet, we have paid for half of it and the final part of the payment is going through tomorrow, it will then be mine to collect, possibly before the weekend and then it's playtime ;D ;D
I wont be saying much more about it as we have a resident know it all and he feels he is better able to answer, if you email me I will be happy to talk you through it.
Rob ;D
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Kevin
The Torc system is " sandblaster" designed for the gentle cleaning of heritage architecture through low pressure blasting mainly with Calcite and is generally accepted as the "only" system to be used in this type of cleaning. This is something Brian Crowe cleverly instigated 20 years ago with the heritage people.
The farrow system is basically a "sandblaster" designed for removal of heavy scale deposits from ships, heavy steel work usually used in conjunction with media such as crushed glass, Silicon Carbide Grit etc,The "special" feature of this system over a normal "sandblaster" is the use of hot water to dampen down contamination and aid cleaning not to form a traditional blasting slurry as in "wet blasting".
The Doff system is a low flow,low pressure,super heated water steam cleaner used for the removal of algae and paints etc . It s generally recognized by Natural England , English heritage as the only way to clean trust property due to the fact it rarely damages the substrate as the clean is generally conducted by the high heat (genuine 150c at the tip).
Depending on what you are cleaning depends on the machine you should invest in. If you are going into cleaning listed buildings the Doff or Torc system not that it cleans any better but merely for the fact Stonehealth has the field completely tied up with the governing bodies at this present time.There are better machines on the market than the Doff and Torc (Vortech,Thermatech from Jaime fairchild) system for this sort of fine conservation work. I can forward you details
The Farrow system will carry out this sort of work (but not to the same standard) but it would never ever get specified (for conservation work ) by any of the trusts due to Stonehealths influences.
I have used all of the above machines extensively over the years and am willing to supply unbiased information on any of them .
As you can see all of the above machines whilst they may look similar to the untrained eye (Doff excluded) they are completely different machines.The nozzle sizes on the Vortech/Torc system go down to 3mm aperture not much good for removing road markings unless you are on a day rate!!
What's your thoughts on the fluoropolymer?
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The machine I watched and then subsequently bought is low pressure, extremely hot water ( I will verify the temperature of this, through experience and not Google), utilising volcanic grit, no additional chemicals and if the videos have been watched, has the ability to clean the print from a cigarette packet and also drive a hole into a concrete kerb, within seconds so is equally soft on cleaning.
It certainly is not a wet blaster and the posters knowledge has been shown there, a wet blaster cannot be regulated, doesn't work with heat and is not comparable.
Again another attempt to share bu*lpoop and googling ability, with no substance behind it!
Rob ;D
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Rob
I agree that wet blasters "usually" use water instead of air and possibily to "purist" sandblaster it is not a "wetblaster" in the traditional sense.
To me it is a form of wet blasting (water being introduced to the media= wetblasting) ...dry blasting on site is a nightmare and the introduction of water solves many problems associated with it. I will amend the post so it reads better.
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Not read all the posts so not bothered by techy side ...... i just know it looks great, will make u a nice tidy sum, i want a go and will then want to buy one for myself. Good luck with it.
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Not read all the posts so not bothered by techy side ...... i just know it looks great, will make u a nice tidy sum, i want a go and will then want to buy one for myself. Good luck with it.
Oi! I'm having a go first! 8)
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Lee & Ian
I'm having a go first ;D
I want an orderly queue, no pushing in - just trying to arrange a training day with Farrow Systems and the manual, as this has been lost somewhere along the way.
Rob ;D
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well i guess as its yours then u should have 1st go ;D
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Lee & Ian
I'm having a go first ;D
I want an orderly queue, no pushing in - just trying to arrange a training day with Farrow Systems and the manual, as this has been lost somewhere along the way.
Rob ;D
Rob, why do you need to arange a training day and get a manual ? Just get Chris Scott to train you he knows more than you can ever dream of! ;D
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;D ;D ;D
The oracle - I don't think I could stand it mate - Trying to arrange it direct with Nigel @ Farrow Systems
Rob ;D
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Stonehealth TORC system
The TORC System is a complete stone cleaning system designed and sold exclusively by Stonehealth. It’s an evolution of the Jos system that we first introduced to the market over 20 years ago.
What can TORC be used for?
remove carbon sulphation
remove lime & cement based paints
remove paint residues
remove some old oil based paints
remove bitumen
remove lime scale
How does it work?
The TORC system creates a gentle swirling vortex using a mixture of low air pressure, little water and a safe inert fine granulate.
The Torc Head is modularised into separate components which results in an efficient and gentle swirling vortex using even less water and granulate than the original Jos system.
The removable nozzle cone can easily be changed so that a larger cone can be used to clean large areas such as ashlar or a smaller nozzle cone can be used for more intricate detail such as an elaborate capital or rustications.
The above directly from Stonehealth website
The below directly from the farrow System website
Complete coatings removal, corrosion control, and facilities maintenance.
The Farrow System® excels in lowering costs for both preventive maintenance and repair. Complex industrial infrastructure such as piping, valves, and intricate mechanical/hydraulic machinery can be cleaned quickly and inspected frequently without disassembly or masking. The Farrow System® will remove tough industrial coatings and corrosion without damaging hosing, couplings, and delicate surfaces. This one-step cleaning and surface preparation saves hours of labor in otherwise tedious and difficult maintenance chores.
And because The Farrow System® has ultra-low dispersal characteristics, it can be used in enclosed spaces without affecting nearby equipment or workers. Almost all airborne particulates are eliminated, along with the extensive cleanup required by other cleaning methods. Farrow System® media presents no environmental hazards to guard against, and the low blasting pressures make The Farrow System® doubly safe!
The Farrow System®
is effective for:
Removing industrial coatings for inspections
Preparing surfaces to recoat
Cleaning storage tanks
Removing rust and scale
Removing roadway markings
Building and site maintenance
Contaminants abatement
Offshore corrosion control
Kevin - I haven' used it yet, we have paid for half of it and the final part of the payment is going through tomorrow, it will then be mine to collect, possibly before the weekend and then it's playtime ;D ;D
I wont be saying much more about it as we have a resident know it all and he feels he is better able to answer, if you email me I will be happy to talk you through it.
Rob ;D
Rob
Thanks for that! I wouldn't mind having a look at it when you get it if you don't mind! You are not far from me so just let me know when it's convenient if you are OK with it?
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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Rob
Been looking at the TORC & Doff system but this looks better! What's the main difference between them and where can you buy the Farrow system from?
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
You cannot compare the DOFF system against the Farrow.
Chris
I didn't say that! You can compare anything against anything! I asked Rob for his comments that was all! I am sure having committed to purchase the Farrow system he will have looked at anything and everything similar on the market! I therefore felt he was in a good position to give me the heads up on the various different products!
Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics
Marblelife Ltd
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Kevin
We have pressure washed white lines from Tarmac and removed white line paint spillages, using just raw power, turbo nozzles and a lot of flow, basically chipping them off, it is a slow and arduos way of doing it.
We have removed white lines from an undercroft car park using pressure washing sand blasting lances - it worked well, slow but the amount of crap to clear up was phenomenal.
What impressed me with this system was how clean it was, virtually no mess and if I am honest I couldn't believe that it could strip print from a cigarette packet and still have oommpphh. The lack of mess was the deciding factor, it was also very local to me, I knew of the seller, the service people who look after my pressure washers knew the system and the seller - from that it wasn't a difficult decision.
I have been looking at other set ups, of all brands and styles, for quite some time. I wasn't particularly paying attention to names and whether it could be used on Heritage stuff, there is plenty of work out there without them, though I am sure that the Stonehealth system could easily damage detail in the wrong hands, on his website one of Brians guys says they pull back away from the works, when required.
It isn't the system it is the operator and one of the posters on here is not getting that, the media being volcanic, though others can be used, was another factor, as it is environmentally friendly.
All round, as I have discussed with Nigel @ Farrow Systems this morning, a good in to a very large market.
Rob ;D
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Rob - you've missed the point - your supposed to ignor him ;) Nowts as death as he who dosn't want to hear ;)
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I guess I have a soft spot for those that are more challenged than I ;)
Rob ;D
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Kevin
We have pressure washed white lines from Tarmac and removed white line paint spillages, using just raw power, turbo nozzles and a lot of flow, basically chipping them off, it is a slow and arduos way of doing it.
We have removed white lines from an undercroft car park using pressure washing sand blasting lances - it worked well, slow but the amount of crap to clear up was phenomenal.
What impressed me with this system was how clean it was, virtually no mess and if I am honest I couldn't believe that it could strip print from a cigarette packet and still have oommpphh. The lack of mess was the deciding factor, it was also very local to me, I knew of the seller, the service people who look after my pressure washers knew the system and the seller - from that it wasn't a difficult decision.
I have been looking at other set ups, of all brands and styles, for quite some time. I wasn't particularly paying attention to names and whether it could be used on Heritage stuff, there is plenty of work out there without them, though I am sure that the Stonehealth system could easily damage detail in the wrong hands, on his website one of Brians guys says they pull back away from the works, when required.
It isn't the system it is the operator and one of the posters on here is not getting that, the media being volcanic, though others can be used, was another factor, as it is environmentally friendly.
All round, as I have discussed with Nigel @ Farrow Systems this morning, a good in to a very large market.
Rob ;D
Rob
Thanks for the info! I spoke to Nigel! A very interesting guy!
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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Kevin
I don't know what the same spec machine would be brand new, including the vacuum and additional hoses but I just couldn't afford that much.
Have you discussed new or a second hand unit?
Nigel has been very helpful, over the last couple of days and I can see, even though he hasn't benefitted from my purchase that he will stick by his systems and instruct, no matter where they have been bought from.
Rob ;D
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Kevin
I don't know what the same spec machine would be brand new, including the vacuum and additional hoses but I just couldn't afford that much.
Have you discussed new or a second hand unit?
Nigel has been very helpful, over the last couple of days and I can see, even though he hasn't benefitted from my purchase that he will stick by his systems and instruct, no matter where they have been bought from.
Rob ;D
Rob
Wouldn't even think about new mate! Telephone figures but he did say there may be the odd used one around! More than your paying but still doable if I decide to go that way! As you said very helpful guy! Just like me ;D ;D ;D
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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It's the compressors that make them expensive.
I tried to find component parts at one point and a decent low hours compressor is at least 6K - Ingersoll etc, on about 260CFM I am sure you can buy cheaper but you get what you pay for and a lot of the compressors secondhand are knackered or massive hours. I am new to all of this but I would say that minimum compressor CFM is about 260, if you want to get the work done quickly.
Funnily enough as I started to do the deal on mine there was another one that was on Ebay and it was one of his in van pots, on a trailer, with a compressor mounted.
I haven't seen a farrow System for some time, then two come along and now none again. He sent me a picture of a tow along unit, blue coloured that I think he had in - secondhand but not as big a set up.
Rob ;D
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Kevin
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/wet-sandblasting-business-industrial-diy-selfemployed-/261219408733?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cd1e3db5d
Rob ;D
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Kevin
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/wet-sandblasting-business-industrial-diy-selfemployed-/261219408733?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cd1e3db5d
Rob ;D
I want to join in the conversation ...but everybody is picking on me! That's not the same machine as yours Rob .
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C_oNMH0GTk
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Why would i talk about something i know nothing about ? ;D
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Kevin
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/wet-sandblasting-business-industrial-diy-selfemployed-/261219408733?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cd1e3db5d
Rob ;D
Rob
I like yours better ;D ;D ;D
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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Nice 1 rob hope you have enough money left to still afford to buy the 2 in line filters of me ;D
Hope it earns you millions ;)
Ps before you ask yes my hand is still f+*^%d and in plaster
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Dave
Can you do a receipt for it and I can send it through the bank or my accountant will say why have you spent this.
Put a price on for delivery because we have been talking about getting together now, for three years, or thereabouts and eiher I am busy, you're busy or your in hospital ;D
Rob ;D
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I can do anything for you rob as your now top dog ;D ;D ;D
I will call you later
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Dave
I'll wait for the call. I don't think that I am top dog at all - we all know Rog is the 'Guvnor'
Rob ;D
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The top dog
The guvnor
The main man
The king
The general
The kingpin
The chief
The guru
The master
The boss
The maestro
The wizard
The prodigy
But not the fackin' hypo king!
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I don't think I will be needing hypo anymore - so you can have that title mate ;D
Rob ;D
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Sat in van having dinner mate staring a building that your system is perfect for. Does your phone receive images now?
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Yep. Fire them over mate
Rob ;D
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The whole system is being delivered to our trading address tomorrow afternoon.
We will be moving trading addresses to make the operation more accessible and because we will be taking on works, delivered to the unit, it is not aesthetically pleasing.
The unit is ok, the surrounding farm has become a little untidy.
Rob ;D
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The whole system is being delivered to our trading address tomorrow afternoon.
We will be moving trading addresses to make the operation more accessible and because we will be taking on works, delivered to the unit, it is not aesthetically pleasing.
The unit is ok, the surrounding farm has become a little untidy.
Rob ;D
You could macblast the farm clean! Im loving it....
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You need to team up with Dave Washbrook - he's picking on me in another thread. I know how the 'know it all' feels now ;D
I could clean the farm in two days and it would look 'Pristine' - see what I did there ;D
Rob ;D
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From the Farrow System website -
Patented worldwide, The Farrow System®, is a low pressure system that works by adding heat to the cleaning process. This adds energy, creates free flow, adds control, and increases cleaning speeds. The system uses Farrow Green Clean® exclusively, optimising its properties of environmental safety, cleaning without damage, and incredible efficiency.
Rob ;D
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I've moved this reply, to the relevant thread, from the Driveway cleaning topic-
I don't know why I humour you or even respond. What was the point of the post then?
Was it pointless!!
Or other?
It uses water, media, compressor - it is not a dry blast system - are you looking to trip me up on terminology?
I would be interested in your experience - who have you worked for, what systems did you use, when was this and on each system, how much usage?
We can all come on here and spout cr*p, show me some proof of this experience
Rob ;D
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I would be interested in your experience - who have you worked for, what systems did you use, when was this and on each system, how much usage?
Rob ;D
Please feel to phone me on 07973216502 and try and I will answer any questions you might have. I appreciate you have spoken to Farrow and received good support from them but ask any distributor/vendor and they will tell you what you want to hear ...ask Kev Martin to recommend a sandstone sealer!!. Stonehealth, Hodge Clemco,Farrow ask any of them and they will tell you all the good bits. Things like noise /dust pollution,problems with damp media ,setting up a spray shop etc is the other side of it.
Although to be fair the system you have purchased and the media you are planning on useing will eliminate some of these problems.
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I didn't really take advice. I do do a little research, for myself, I don't tend to ask strangers questions, the people I would speak to would be on here but I already have communication with them, on the phone, texting, by email and I knew that there wouldn't really be someone else with this size system on here, or we would have heard about it.
If there is someone I would be glad to have a chat with them.
You try and be smart by comments such as 'will eliminate some of these problems' - what other problems will there be that the Farrow System cannot handle, that comment would tell me or anyone reading this topic that I haven't got the be all and end all system and I could do much better - what, if I had listened to you?
Chris get over yourself. I spent my money very wisely, I have a cracking system, that was delivered today, none of the problems that YOU think are outstanding, even exist and because of the way I operate I don't see there being any significant problems moving forward.
I have a successful business, this will be a successful part of that business.
The responses smell a little, mmmmm, what is it?, mmmmmm, Ah I know - jealousy ;)
Rob
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Rob I really don't know why you bother to acknowlege him. Some don't listen ie YOU - as I have suggested you ignor him before ! Imagine if smartsmudge did a wetblaster what it would remove without noise, polution or clean up ;)
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I've got to admit I'm jealous, I would love to have a system like that.
Maybe in a couple of years, if I keep working hard.
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Carl
You are right, I just can't help myself. I am going into detox, I need some encouragement to weed myself off the addiction.
I am better than he. I will ignore him, I will ignore him, I have an armour of steel all around me. He cannot penetrate.
Help me get through people.
B Bailey - I have taken a calculated risk, an expensive one because it needs a decent sized vehicle to tow it and that was expensive as well. I have to repay the money but it is worth the risk. If it works I am going to be laughing, if it goes wrong I am confident that I will get my money back.
One thing that I have learned in the last twelve years is that if you don't push the boundaries you will never know what you can achieve.
There's two ways of looking at it, it's £14000.000, wow it's £14000.00 or it's just money, its only £14000.00. I tend to be on the right hand side of the thought process.
All my kit has paid for itself very quickly and I expect this to work hard for me, all I have to do is show it working, explain its credentials, demonstrate to the right people and it will do its job.
The hard bit is getting the opportunity to show capability. I haven't been lucky - i've worked really hard, for a long time to have this and I am not giving it up.
I was in the right place seven years ago but I put myself there, it wasn't given to me.
There isn't any maybes in life, if you want it you have to go and get it, it will never be given to you.
I was given a pricing list this afternoon that is 3.5 years old, for removing white lines. The guy I bought from was given it by the original owner. If I don't increase those prices and make a dent, on my works, It will definitely be worthwhile, massively worthwhile ;D ;D
Rob ;D
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Rob,
There are a few people of here that do reinvest in their kit to go forward, won't name names but we/you/they know who they are.
Your new purchase will give you various avenues to go down and take what we do to a new level, same as what I do and this industry needs to be taken seriously and not just a summer job!!! as some folk see it. (not a dig at anyone new before anyone gets upset)
Good luck my friend and don't let the green-eyed monsters get to you, just rise above it.
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Rob
I had similar comments when we started out and I still get them now! I personally don't give a Monkeys, I do what I want to do and when I want to do it! Many people told me over the years I was mad investing 10's of £1000's in machinery and it would never pay for itself. People told me i was mad paying for my guys to go on courses, send them to trade shows, make them wear a uniform or buy them the best PPE but I still did it. When people don't invest in themselves and their companies they may do OK and will probably make a living but when you have vision'forward thinking and the desire to succeed then invariably provided you make your decisions carefully and don't overstretch yourself financially it is almost certain you will succeed. Good Luck but I still wanna come up and see it in action :P
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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Rob, don't bother about what people say, all the fun will have been taken out of it ;D, get out there and earn some money with it! I will narrate over a video of you using it if you like ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Lee
You know that is going to happen. I am off up to the unit in the morning, all nozzles will be attached, the machine will be switched and the camera will roll.
It will then be over to Lee Kenny, voice over man extraordinaire. I am expecting blockbuster ;D
Rob
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Lee
You know that is going to happen. I am off up to the unit in the morning, all nozzles will be attached, the machine will be switched and the camera will roll.
It will then be over to Lee Kenny, voice over man extraordinaire. I am expecting blockbuster ;D
Rob
;D ;D I will google some info tonight on it and get my lines sorted ;D ;D
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Lee
I want it like the Big Brother man but in that distinctive accent of yours, it's like liquid gold.
Kevin, Roger - cheers
Rob ;D
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Lee
I want it like the Big Brother man but in that distinctive accent of yours, it's like liquid gold.
Kevin, Roger - cheers
Rob ;D
Don't know what Lee Kenny sounds like? but you need the X factor guy BIG, ENGERY, basically listen you want and need this ;)
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Lee
Give Rog a ring in the morning. He will understand then ;)
Rob ;D
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Lee
Give Rog a ring in the morning. He will understand then ;)
Rob ;D
Yes give me a call, sanding and oiling a deck so should hear the phone,
Dam that SEO keeps working and keeps me busy,
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Blooming nuisance success, just keeps getting in the way of life ;D
Rob ;D
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This is Lee Kenny 'ere at Power Wash Cleaning
You don't need to ring him! ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZQti_AAa88
That's what you call a proper job.
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Lee
Give Rog a ring in the morning. He will understand then ;)
Rob ;D
Yes give me a call, sanding and oiling a deck so should hear the phone,
Dam that SEO keeps working and keeps me busy,
;D ;D ;D
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This is Lee Kenny 'ere at Power Wash Cleaning
You don't need to ring him! ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZQti_AAa88
That's what you call a proper job.
Haha, I must admit I chuckle to myself when I hear myself say ' this probably looks better than when it was first laid!'
;D ;D ;D
Although I have had 2 jobs in the past 2 day from youtube videos, both block paved driveway cleans, unfortunately one was in Birmingham and the other in Stoke.
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Can only wish you the best of luck with it mate, I know the feeling about having to work for it.
Wouldn't want it on a plate, you wouldn't appreciate what you have achieved if you got that way.
Shame our MPs, haven't learnt from the school of hard knocks like a lot of on here.
If you it bring down to Croydon, would love to have a look at it.
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I want it on a plate. Thats why i keep buying lottery tickets.
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Two of my absolute hates.
The welfare system and how messed up it is, people leaving school with their hands out, expecting the house, the car, childcare - woman on GMTV yesterday morning 'I can't survive on £26000.00 per year' she was getting 32k a year but they are reducing it, in line with new policies. Six kids!!! - Don't have six kids if you can't support them!!. China have the right idea!
There are people on here earning a lot less than that, by a long way!!!
And that the kids are not shown how to work hard, and gain from that, I wanted to go into my local school and talk to them about how important CVs are, that they need to be grammatically correct, to the point and selling the person.
No interest!!
There are people out there who haven't got a pot to p*ss in - I have just given an eight man tent, brand new to a church group, for these sort of kids. I said all I wanted in return was a thank you note from the kids.The woman who picked it up was overjoyed and kept saying the kids will love this.
The second hate is the open door policy - you can come here but you should work, have an amount to start you off, or be going straight into a qualified position, a lot like Australia. Don't come here to bleed our system dry, you haven't paid into it, I have and I deserve it more.
I will help anyone who doesn't know or cannot see the way forward but they have to really want it, I would give nothing to scroungers, they make me sick and it is always someone else to blame.
Matt - We play the lottery, couple of quid a week, I'm not expecting the miracle but it would be nice if it happens.
It could be you
Rob ;D
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Lee K
Liquid gold - Where's Paddy Mcguinness from, is it over your way?
Lee B - Superb customer recommendation video, on the same page as Lee's link above and a great job ;)
Rob ;D
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rob i read your storys with interest and wish you all the best with the new toy.
one thing with life is simple,you get out what you put in, ;)
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Franky
;) - cheers
92 replies and over 900 views, I know it is a little different and there are some very good videos early on in the topic. I am going to be updating, as we learn with the system, with photos & videos (if I work vids out)
I've took a risk, as I've said, but if you don't push it you'll never know.
I know that thinking isn't for everybody and there is plenty that will be happy for the simplicity of running a window round, or smaller business, relatively close to home and there is nothing wrong with that either.
I get a lot of emails, people who have been on the website, looking to help us out and people asking questions about how to get into commercial, I always tell them to start with windows and build their business from that, eventually getting into the bigger works when they have good cash flow, my life is different now ( I don't ever think I have arrived because I haven't) - Lee (liquid gold) Kenny & Lee @ Blastaway have, but not me! ;D
I remember having f**k all, halfway through the month and I don't want to go back there, it's time to start taking educated risks and properly having a go, I don't own the kit, the finance company does, but it will be mine a lot quicker than the agreement.
Rob ;D
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I will lend you the money for the machine Rob...... for a percentage of the profit (or loss).It would work out cheaper than finance.
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I will lend you the money for the machine Rob...... for a percentage of the profit (or loss).It would work out cheaper than finance.
I've taken the liberty of copying & pasting because you posted the same message this morning and then erased it (were you hoping for more attention tonight)
Why would I borrow the money from someone I don't know, have never met and have no idea (well I have an idea) about.
The deal is done, the machine is very cosily sat in my unit, just waiting for me to come back from Santorini and then it's off to work.
I predict I will make my money back this year, I don't need a monkey on my back, thinking they can make a cheap few quid.
Be a D*ck in someone else's post.
Rob ;D
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It was merely a business proposal on my behalf...i was willing to take a risk for a return on my investment.
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Lee K
Liquid gold - Where's Paddy Mcguinness from, is it over your way?
Lee B - Superb customer recommendation video, on the same page as Lee's link above and a great job ;)
Rob ;D
That was the first review I did. Not done one for a while. Gerald has actually booked in again for the end of this month. 8)
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Lee
That's a good angle to have, cracking selling point and that is, I am sure, why you are busy a lot of the time.
I haven't seen that done, not on here anyway and it ought to be a great tool, for others to pick up and utilise.
You can see that it is genuine. Well done mate ;)
To anyone else who thinks I may need funding, for a percentage share in my additional service, who may think that they are taking a risk, I've taken the risk, it is clearly a great add on, or there wouldn't be the offer, I do not and will not furnish anyone else's nest, for the rest of the businesses duration.
It would work out cheaper than finance, nobody knows what finance deal I have but it is good, and it would not work out cheaper to give away a percentage of profits, infinitum.
I will not disclose my profit margin but no one is getting a piece of it.
I ride my bike on my own, it ain't no tandem ;D
Rob ;D
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Why risk lending the money to someone else, when you could buy it yourself.
That way your minimising the risk.
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Why risk lending the money to someone else, when you could buy it yourself.
That way your minimising the risk.
It's not buying the machine...it's finding the work that is the hard bit. I have absolutely no intention of doing any sandblasting myself and or putting a team together to do it ...I have done more than enough in my time!.
I don't mind investing in things that other people put the effort into and i get a small cut for my investment. When people go into a new venture they are enthusiastic and they put so much effort into making it a success.
If it fails there is always the machinery to sell to recoup the costs incurred.
A finance company has no interest other than insuring payments are met. I on the other hand wish to see success as i will earn more in the long run.
Although running of the business is always left to the "owner" i would always strive to push work towards my investment . As of recent i have had several paint removal jobs in London ..I gave away as 1) it's s*** work and 2) I hate London . ;D
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who did you pass the paint removal work to Chris?
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Whoooshhh!! of the wind, as it blows the tumbleweed across the desert ;D
Rob ;D
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It could have been a whoooosh of me passing yours Rob on the way to London to do them! But I don't like paint removal.
Gum removal however...I enjoy.
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Mate
I've got 10 000 leaflets ready to go out, all chewing gum & graffiti removal. Don't fancy the long walk round to get the message out there ;D
I really enjoy chewing gum removal as well, you've got no choice, with a year of it ;D
Rob ;D
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Just having a double espresso then heading out to do a bit. 8)
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who did you pass the paint removal work to Chris?
A contractor who buys paint stripper from a mate of mine he is stripping tower blocks for LBC ...why do you want that sort of work ? There is a black limestone patio in Essex that wants stripping I offered to Lee but he did not seem keen either!
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who did you pass the paint removal work to Chris?
A contractor who buys paint stripper from a mate of mine he is stripping tower blocks for LBC ...why do you want that sort of work ? There is a black limestone patio in Essex that wants stripping I offered to Lee but he did not seem keen either!
No mate, bit far for me to travel.. I used to work for a mob and thats all they did.. brick cleaning and paint stripper... i quite enjoyed it..
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It could have been a whoooosh of me passing yours Rob on the way to London to do them! But I don't like paint removal.
Gum removal however...I enjoy.
Lee, you mentioned when you did the gum job on the tarmac that you had two going at once? you got two hotboxes? or you spitting the outlet of the hotbox into two guns?
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2 burners mate. 1 is 21lpm and the other 15. The 15 I'm selling to Simon as I won't need it. Bought a Falch skid T3H twin boiler.
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Sorry Chris I was under the impression that you had loads of this type of work, I am like Rob, I put my money where my mouth is.
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Don't believe any of it mate.
Rob ;D
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Got two guys on days & two guys on nights, on a massive project (store) @ Paignton.
Phone call today - can we bail out another job tomorrow, job sorted ;)
Recommendation through my very good friend, Lee @ Blastaway, to clean a roof, unfortunately we couldn't fit it in, needed doing immediately and just when I thought it was going quiet for the night, another very good contact phones me up on a cladding job, booked in for 1st week in July.
The guys are going to be on the Paignton job for at least this week and next week. I am trying to go on holiday tomorrow and it hasn't stopped.
Phones coming with me this time and the laptop, might need to do some work while away, easier doing it with the sun on your back, by the pool ;)
Rob ;D
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Got two guys on days & two guys on nights, on a massive project (store) @ Paignton.
Phone call today - can we bail out another job tomorrow, job sorted ;)
Recommendation through my very good friend, Lee @ Blastaway, to clean a roof, unfortunately we couldn't fit it in, needed doing immediately and just when I thought it was going quiet for the night, another very good contact phones me up on a cladding job, booked in for 1st week in July.
The guys are going to be on the Paignton job for at least this week and next week. I am trying to go on holiday tomorrow and it hasn't stopped.
Phones coming with me this time and the laptop, might need to do some work while away, easier doing it with the sun on your back, by the pool ;)
Rob ;D
Now you are learning - enjoy the Sun and let me know all about the Farrow system - it looks great!
I have not been on here for a while as we are extremely busy
Just bought the dinky little access machine 3.5 ton 20 metre - as we are fed up hiring.
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Come on m-clean I have been watching this thread for ages now for a video of you using what seems to be a cracking bit if kit ;D ;D
Plus where did you get your company jacket from the one you're wearing on you sponsor blog ???
Thanks Paul
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Dave
Buy my business, so I can go and retire in the sun, permanently.
Sell the villa to pay for it and everyones happy :o ;D
Erith
Unfortunately it is going to have to wait at least a week, till I come back.
I will definitely be doing updates but for now the sun beckons.
We buy all the logoed gear from a local firm, in Leek, Staffordshire and they put the print on them, one stop shop
Lee @ Blastaway
First holiday with no alcohol :'(
Rob ;D
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Got the first paying job for the system on Wednesday.
Will be taking a lot of photos, some video and a write up of the day and the job.
Job is on a school and we are stripping the metalwork from a fire escape railings
Rob ;D
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Hope you had a good holiday Rob
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Dave
Had a fantastic holiday, some photos of Santorini.
It really is a very special place and one of the, visually, most stunning places I have been to. It is like there is a photo to be taken at every turn.
Feel very lucky to have gotten a number of close up pictures of the butterfly, while I was walking up a back street. Went for a walk the next day and got some more of another (could have been the same one) butterfly but they are still on the camera.
Recommend it to anyone, not cheap but somewhere to take the special lady in your life, that may not be the missus ;D ;D
Rob ;D
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Rob
You take some excellent pictures
Where did you go
Darran ;D
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Sorry mate - Darren ;) ;D
We stayed near the beach at the bottom of the island, volcanic sand, black, so I only went on it once. Staying up at Oia (pronounced ear) could have been as expensive as £3000.00 per week, for B & B and these are the hotels dug out of the hillsides.
Rob ;D
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The camera does all the hard work mate. I just point it in the right direction ;)
Rob ;D
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I'm off to my little pad in Varna in a few weeks and will hopefully try somewhere else in Jan/Feb
Holidays is what it's all about!
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Got a nice little Thai massage booked in for December ;)
I will be checking that I am getting a proper woman, over there!!!
Rob ;D
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You can't beat a good massage
I normally get a manicure and pedicure afterwards - just so I am in the company of lovely ladies for longer ;D
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When we shook hands at Croydon - I thought to myself there's a man that looks after his hands, that or he doesn't do very much manual ;D
Rob ;D
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Virtually no manual for me Rob my hands are too precious!
I do 35k miles per year quoting work for my merry men to do! 8)
The downside to this is the BELLY ;D
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Job we were on yesterday.
An external stairwell, all paint to be removed and treads back to metal
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Got to finish this one off.
We made some mistakes, got the media dosing wrong and used far too much, so i've just ordered a tonne of coarse and we will be finishing off on Monday.
Had to leave the trailer down there because the bearing set & hubcap had come off, on the drive down there. Couldn't move it.
Absolute nightmare day but parts are being couriered overnight, so we will fit them on site on Monday.
Just had another enquiry come in for paint removal on a wall ;)
Rob ;D
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I'll post the finished job, if we ever get there ;D
Rob ;D
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Rob ;D
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Rob
Probably a really dopey question but is there a reason you didn't start at the top?
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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Kev
Not dopey at all.
Just out of picture there was a small Niftylift, picker and that was the plan.
We were having lots of start stop issues, some of them our fault, other ones, niggles on the machine and there were kids playing out.
So we said let's start here, work up and then rinse the lot down, when we've finished.
Starting on the high level, on Monday, now we've sorted the problems.
Rob ;D
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I wanted to give you this really technical but obvious answer.
The truth was user error ;D
Rob ;D
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Rob
No worries ;D ;D
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
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Looks great Rob, if you didn't have the set backs and teething problems what kind of time do you think that job could be done it mate?
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Get some primer on it.
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It was the spindles.
I think a day. Definitely a two man job. Lot of pulling on the arm, with the air hose and particularly as it was slipping back down the treads.
Plan on the picker on Monday is to tie it on, taking some pressure off.
Really different and I really enjoyed it. It's the future ;D
The primer and topcoat are being taken care of by the client, they know it will want a quick rub down, wouldn't mind that either ;D
Rob ;D
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I've got the camcorder ready for a bit of video, on Monday
Rob ;D
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Looking good.
Nice little job to get the hang of the new system.
By the time the big jobs come in you should have it sussed.
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Nice one, there is another avenue you could go down if you wanted... full package, reapplying fresh paint or treatment etc to your jobs. It seems a good niche that you have got into mate. I actually got a call from some guy the other day asking if I did sand blasting, he was restoring a car and wanted the spring coils blasting, the phone call was very short when I told him I don't think he'd get it done for £15 which he was estimating lol
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B Bailey
Took it on and to be honest, even before the problems I was only ever going to break even, seriously cost me some money now but as you say, we knew it was a first job.
I appreciate the client, who is long standing having the faith in me.
On more than one occasion on Friday I said 'pack up' we're bailing out on this one but it will be done and though I may be out of pocket it will give me that experience.
Lee - The main client is a painting & decorating firm so all that side is pretty much sown up. They have created a USP via this set up that we will be proud to be part of and should give them more work and us a lot more work.
I'm loving the potential.
I have looked at a Greco airless sprayer before and the guy where I have my unit has a powder coating set up, big enough to put a car into, so the network is there already.
Rob ;D
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Just an update on this.
The system has been taken into a local plant place, no Chris Snott, (I see we are using 'N's in other topics) that isn't garden plants.
A full service is being carried out, one of the filter alone is costing £200.00 and I am expecting the end cost to be around £700.00 - not as bad as I thought!
I should have had a full service before we put it out there but better late than never.
I have a wall to clean on a Sainsbury's next week and again I will be trying to get pictures and a bit of video for the people on here but more importantly for the website at Macblast Uk.
I hope we have a better time with it than we did last week in London!
I will keep all posted.
Rob ;D
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I was refraining from having a go at you because your going through hard times....it was a genuine typing error.
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I feel you have resigned me to the 'past it' brigade. I like the old Chris - the new Chris is slightly unsettling!
Rob ;D
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Still waiting for a lambswool filter to come in on this one, so it is still being serviced.
Question for Carl or Chris -
The pot has a rubber bung on it that closes the pot up as it is building pressure, the water, media & air are mixed and as the handle is pressed you get the obvious release of all three components.
If I want to add soda blasting to the service I doubt I can use the same pot, it can be emptied by a quick release at the bottom but if I want a quick change around the pot wont be dry enough.
There is enough room at the side of the pot to put one just for soda, what else is required, is it that simple, is there anything I have missed or is there another way of doing it?
Rob ;D
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Why soda?
Why the need for a "quick" swap over ? You could buy a separate pot ,deadman etc and fit it to your trailer you have the expensive part in the compressor .
Do farrow not do different medias they recommend (glass?) .
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I know I wont get the pot dry for soda.
Looking for an alternative option, to work alongside it. You know how clean soda is, cleaner than probably anything other than dry ice.
I have a tonne of glass up at the unit.
Yes - they have come away from Olivine now because of the asbestos link but I am not sure if they sell soda.
The scenario would be that I go and price some work and they want a cleaner option. I don't want to pull the system apart so I have a 'dry' works pot and hoses
Rob ;D
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Chris
I am asking because you have first hand experience.
Just had the 1st draft of the website in, would appreciate your thoughts.
What needs adding? taking out? what can be done to improve it?
I am going to be adding some pictures of historical buildings, a boat hull being cleaned.
Give me your email and I will fire the PDF over
Rob ;D
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First half a dozen emails posted can have a preview but only for constructive criticism.
This is only a 1st draft, so nothing set in stone
Many thanks
Rob ;D
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matt@precisepressurewashing. co.uk
Go on then, give us a look ;D
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You have mail Matt
Rob ;D
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Just post the website URL ..MORE people the better .It needs a cross section of internet users .Some technical , some who like pretty colors ,some who can navigate round the site and some who carn't etc
Email to Chrisscott@prettyfrocksforcrossdressers.co.uk i'll send you our latest brochure. or info@paint-removal.co.uk
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Rob
Send it through mate.......
I'm off on holiday tomorrow so will have nowt to do ;D
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Darren
You've got it
Chris
It isn't an active URL
I'll send it to your paint removal one, can't be doing with all the cross-dressing crap you want me to get into ;D
Rob ;D
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Chris
if you can post it, put it up, for everyone else to have a look at.
Rob ;D
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Home page needs to be combined with the services page. Whilst I appreciate you are informing me of the positive points of the farrow system i am not there to buy one. I am there for "sandblasting" or paint/coatings removal...is this what you do? I cant really tell from your front page...i think i'll look elsewhere.
Keywords like "paint removal" " "coatings removal" "sandblasting " etc your text needs to be rich in these type of phrases...without being a s*** read. Generic terms that people will be searching for.
"safety infomation"...I dont give a "fu** if you get silicosis so i don,t want to read a medical document..I want to know if you can remove 20 years of crap from the bottom of my yacht
"multi coloured paint removal" ..i liike this section ....Why should i use you ? what do you offer that others don't ? Mobile ,anywhere ,anytime,no problem,yes we can do that.
I like the overall layout of the site it's clean .I would have a contact form on every page. Don't like mac-blast ...sounds like some second rate food item. Why did you not go M-blast..?
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I got that about the silicosis as well. That will be changed.
Mac Blast is what it will be, if fits into a bigger picture.
1st draft so I knew it wouldn't be right
Rob ;D
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There never right websites they need to change and evolve. I like the site just it needs a few things changing. I think you have about 30 seconds from when i land on your home page to convince me i am in the right place.
You on a personal level might not even like the site you end up with! But you only have 30 seconds .
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Yes - I get all that.
They definitely got the layout right.
I am working on a subcontractor assessment, that is turning into an epic. been on it for days now.
Got to get it finished so I can get this website live. I will get the amendments made and repost
Rob ;D
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It's a wet blaster then ;D
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Better than dry - with all this silicosis flying around ;)
Rob ;D
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This would be good for you as well.
http://www.peopleperhour.com/hourlie/set-up-your-youtube-channel-twitter-facebook-for-your-business/46840
Youtube, facebook ,twitter account ....you post on one and it adds it to them all.
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I just cannot get my head round Twitter, I understand Facebook and why you see the need for Youtube but Twitter.
Am I missing something.
Who uses it and why and what do you get from it?
Rob ;D
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I agree with chris,
When i read it, it makes sense, because i am in the industry, but if i was just some guy with a big yacht, i would be baffled by the bu11poo..
You need to tell them what they want to hear, like chris said, fully mobile, can go anywhere, self contained, no mess no fuss, can come to your factory and its like we arent there.. blah blah.. that kind of thing.
Sell it, but not with the info about the farrow. Although, you need to word it better so that at the start the farrow system is sold, so they know its the best system out there. Give them confidence in the system.
But otherwise, i like it. Agree with chris again on a contact on every page, and a youtube page.
There is too many pages in my opinion. And you need to make the services page a bit bigger, as in, you need to point out what services you provide (boat hull cleaning etc) larger, so that if i owned a boat, or had a piece of furniture worth 1000's i would know by the second page that you could clean it. I dont want to have to search your whole site to find out if you can do what i want.
But i think with a couple of tweaks, its good.. your web guy is pretty good, took me days of tweaking to get mine how i wanted..
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Matt
Thanks for that - constructive criticism is always good and I am listening.
The layout is right, definitely too much on silicosis, possibly put a link in there, with a brief overview and tie it in with why the system is better health wise.
Going to be forwarding replies to web people.
Still don't get Twitter and why??
Do you use it or anyone else on this section?
Rob ;D
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Do you know how to link it to here?.
Because it is a PDF with photos and text I haven't got a clue
Rob ;D
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Rob,
I have a twitter account, but i have it linked to my facebook, so that whatever i post on facebook, posts to twitter.
I dont really get twitter either, but its just another social media link to my website and my business. I have been told that when using twitter, dont use it like facebook, in that you dont just flood your twitter feed with business related comments ect, and dont try and sell your services on tiwtter. Post everyday comments, interesting comments, about your town, about your day etc.. This engages people a lot more than forcing your business down their throats, gets you followers, and retweets faster and people will be more inclined to follow you which in turn gets your business out there, if that makes sense.
Twitter isnt really an ideal platform for our kind of business, its more suited to retail and products.
As for linking your PDF on here, let me have a play.
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Just testing this link. Should work.
http://wp.me/P1PRP8-vL
Edit: Yeah it works. Click on the link then click on the file.
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Nice one Matt - for all of it.
See what everyone else thinks as well now.
Maybe I ought to get a Twitter account set up. Cheers
Rob ;D
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And after having another good read through it, i would definitely bring up the types of work you do to the forefront of the site. Make it known WHAT you can clean, and different types of works you can do. Dont hide this info away on the third/fourth page.
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I just cannot get my head round Twitter, I understand Facebook and why you see the need for Youtube but Twitter.
Am I missing something.
Who uses it and why and what do you get from it?
Rob ;D
You don't need to understand it ..you just need to understand that you need it!
Social media is the next generation of advertising. You post a vid on your you tube account( which you will do) and it automatically links to your facebook pages and website. Google then sees this as an "active" account which is good for the website in general.
Did you quote for the paint stripping job?
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Which paint stripping job ???
Rob ;D
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02/08/2013 Check your email or spam box!
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I had to sort out my emails and got rid of everything the day before yesterday. I never go into my spam.
It never went into my inbox or I would have seen it.
Resend it and I will be your friend :D
Rob ;D
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Sent to Robert Bruce @m-clean/bt connect. Too late now as it needed to be their by monday!
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Just got that and saw that the date had gone. I might email them anyway tomorrow. Cheers
Rob ;D
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I initially sent it to robert@m-clean.co.uk ...does it work?
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Yes
That gets filtered into my BT account.
Don't know what happened there but it definitely never went into my inbox. I will see if I can re eastablish it tomorrow. No harm in trying :P
Rob ;D
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www.macblast.co.uk
Rob ;D
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There are a couple of small things being ironed out!!
Rob ;D
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Nice site good luck should get some interesting works
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Well done Rob but it sounds like a combination of me and our kid going for a burger or two at Maccy D's. ;D
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You've had more than one trip to McDonalds mate ;D ;D ;D
I thought about that when I put the name together, inspired by my manc buddy ;)
Rob ;D
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What next macsuckaway!
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Macgutterscladdingchewinggumremovalgraffitiremovalwindowcleaningroofcleaningsupermarketcleaning.co.uk ;D
Or the next project Macdrains.co.uk ;)
Rob ;D
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I own that domain, stopped using it when I realized I couldnt get it on my van!
Im sure macblast will be a success.
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Thanks Simon & Small but Perfectly formed.
I am going to go down the Go Compare advert route. A plane and another plane with banners behind them - for all advertising.
Rob ;D
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The website needs to make reference to " sandblasting" "wetblasting" "gritblasting" .
While i appreciate your process is none of these things (directly) . This is what generally your uneducated customers will be looking for ie "sandblast gates" "grit blast building" etc.
http://www.macblast.co.uk/five-service-areas/ (http://www.macblast.co.uk/five-service-areas/)The overuse of the word "removal" could be consued as "keyword" spaming by google.
Change the H2 tag Get sandblasting/wetblasting/gritblasting in there. It's one of your keywords.
[img width= height= alt=]http://www.macblast.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/banner6.png[/img]
<div class="banner_title">
<h2>Low Pressure & Environmentally Friendly</h2>
</div>
</div><!--close banner-->
Just being constructive ;D
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Christopher
Your constructive comments are useful. It is just unfortunate that they are not always that way, which is a shame!!
Rob ;D
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Because it has been created on the Wordpress format I have admin access and can change type as I see fit. I haven't got my head around changing the bold types and main headings etc but this will come.
I will look at adding the suggestions and then you will ever be a part of my success ;)
Rob ;D
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Word press Dash board :(half way down left hand side) Plugins : add new plugin: (top left)search Yoast .
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Can you tell how it is set up then and what the background and 'tags' are?
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Cleaning Service UK is a vast improvement on the last website Chris.
Rob ;D
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Can you tell how it is set up then and what the background and 'tags' are?
Rob ;D
I am a retard and dont understand the question but I will try .It is setup on a wordpress platform. They background is grey (with red writing) ;D
Meta tags or H1 tags etc
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Cleaning Service UK is a vast improvement on the last website Chris.
Rob ;D
Maybe... but the smartseal www.northwestdriveclean.o.uk (http://www.northwestdriveclean.o.uk) and www.northwestroofclean.co.uk (http://www.northwestroofclean.co.uk) websites were £200 finished and seo'd .It ranked highly, locally from day one. You cannot imagine the return from my initial investment over the last 4/5 years.
I just have to put up with muppets telling me i shoulds disassociate myself from smartseal .
The new website www.pressure-washing.uk.com (http://www.pressure-washing.uk.com) will be the one.
Although i do like www.cleaning-service.uk.com (http://www.cleaning-service.uk.com) and www.gutter-cleaning.co (http://www.gutter-cleaning.co) is ok too.
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Thats a big call Chris.."the best pressure washing company in the UK"
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Thats a big call Chris.."the best pressure washing company in the UK"
;D ;D
The pictures and text are all to be replaced ...just need something to outline the website framework. I think it is probably true tho' :)
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Probably true would say to me that there could be debate.
I would say otherwise about the very bold claim but I wouldn't want to burst the bubble :D
Rob ;D
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Cleaning Service UK is a vast improvement on the last website Chris.
Rob ;D
Maybe... but the smartseal www.northwestdriveclean.o.uk (http://www.northwestdriveclean.o.uk) and www.northwestroofclean.co.uk (http://www.northwestroofclean.co.uk) websites were £200 finished and seo'd .It ranked highly, locally from day one. You cannot imagine the return from my initial investment over the last 4/5 years.
I just have to put up with muppets telling me i shoulds disassociate myself from smartseal .
The new website www.pressure-washing.uk.com (http://www.pressure-washing.uk.com) will be the one.
Although i do like www.cleaning-service.uk.com (http://www.cleaning-service.uk.com) and www.gutter-cleaning.co (http://www.gutter-cleaning.co) is ok too.
Chris I'd put a "C" in that first web-site address or no-one will ever find you mate. ;D ;D
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Chris
Can the Sand-blasting, grit-blasting & shot-blasting mentions be in the background or do they actually need to be as visible type?
Rob ;D
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Rob are you still doing the Sainsbury's? There's a lot of refurbs going on with the Sainsbury's Locals at the moment. We gummed one yesterday in Warrington.
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Combination of both. In needs to be in the front page text as well as " keywords" Hi1 tags etc.
Your header that reads "Low Pressure & Environmentally Friendly" I would change it to something like "Environmentally friendly alternative to grit/sand blasting" Or "eco- friendly sand/grit blasting"
You are giving the search engine the opportunity to find what it is looking for.. a commonly used search phrase. Not many people would type in "Low Pressure & Environmentally Friendly" but "sand blasting" or "grit blasting" would be a more popular search phrase Hence "eco- friendly sand/grit blasting"
You then need to pick a topic for each page .Take a look at www.cleaning -service.uk.com (http://www.cleaning -service.uk.com) each page is formatted around a commonly searched phrase ie "pressure washing" "gutter cleaning" . Take time to read the page"render cleaning" get a feel for the format of the page (although it is getting a bit spammy).
The keyword "render cleaning " is found
The focus keyword was found in:
Article Heading: Yes (1)
Page title: Yes (1)
Page URL: Yes (1)
Content: Yes (5)
Meta description: Yes (1)
Generally the search engine would come to the conclusion the page is about render cleaning and display it in the results.
There is lots more to seo than just this but it;s a good start.
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Lee
I know there is a lot going on with the local stores. They are all at it. We've got an old pub in one of the next villages becoming a Tesco Local.
We haven't really ever touched on these small refurbs, though I have done a couple of them over the last three years.
They seem to have a very quick turn around and not have the capacity for our works.
The set ups of the managing teams is completely different and the people I deal with wont know those teams.
They really don't like sharing contractors across the different sectors, even within their own organisations - vey strange way to manage!!
Rob ;D
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Chris
Thanks for that. I will hopefully get some time tomorrow to see if I can amend the first page and remove the overuse of the word removal on the five services page.
Rob ;D
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Lee
The teams seem to be Project manager, QS, construction managers. They will be quite small teams but they will be tight and will have done a lot of works as a small team. They seem to be quite remote and the progression from looking after one site and moving across to other teams seems a right pain in the ar*e and can be difficult.
My work with the Tesco programme has only just recently moved into two teams and I cannot understand why there isn't a bit more sharing of good contractors.
Rob ;D