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Title: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:08:04 pm
I posted this in another topic earlier today but thought it could possibly deserve a thread of its own............

Many years ago in the early 80's I was out learning to 'sell' cleaning with a guy who went on to become the Chairman of one of the BIG nationals.

I was always flabbergasted to find that almost every site we went to he could calculate the square meterage accurately without a tape measure or even pacing it out.

I begged him to tell me how he did it and he left me stewing for weeks.

Eventually he told me and I've never forgotten it to this day.............

I can now walk into a large open plan office area (and many other types of area too) and 99% of the time I can tell you EXACTLY what it measures.

A big pat on the back for the first person who can tell me what this guy taught me........................
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: Art on February 15, 2006, 07:13:51 pm
When you make the appointment ask the client  ???
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:19:45 pm
Nope...............it can even be done if no-one is there.
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: carloso on February 15, 2006, 07:20:52 pm
count the desks
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:21:41 pm
That wouldn't give you the size of the area
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:22:58 pm
You have to count something (windows, desks, doors) and then you would be able to estimate the size of the room, floor…
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: Art on February 15, 2006, 07:24:03 pm
My next guess was going to be windows  >:(
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:24:36 pm
I'm not sure how counting windows and doors can give you an area ??????????????

But it really is SO simple
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: lisa123 on February 15, 2006, 07:25:33 pm
is it simple maths, like pacing around the length and width and multiplying to get paces, if you know how big your pace is you got the answer  ??? ???
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:26:27 pm
Nope.................you don't have to move an inch
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:26:33 pm
I'm not sure how counting windows and doors can give you an area ??????????????

But it really is SO simple
You have to count perimeter first, then the size of the area
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:27:57 pm
I can see this taking all night.............

A clue - you can't always do it but 99% of the time you can.
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:28:03 pm
Nope.................you don't have to move an inch

To estimate perimeter you would not have to move your finger
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: lisa123 on February 15, 2006, 07:28:45 pm
i dont know, you have baffled me, prob kick myself when you tell us the answer  ::)
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:28:56 pm
Is it the number of lights you rely on?
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:29:39 pm
You're nearly there. You do, of course, have to know the perimeter dimensions to get the area but how do you get those exactly without a tape and without pacing.
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:30:57 pm
I would estimate the number of doors I would be able to place alongside the wall
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:33:14 pm
Nowt to do with doors or windows. Estimating the number of doors would still be a guess. This is spot on accurate.
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: stains-away on February 15, 2006, 07:37:04 pm
Count the carpet tiles?
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:38:54 pm
I am not too sure, but I think that the size of one door is equal to one yard
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:40:39 pm
Its nothing to do with doors. Even if you knew the measurement of a door how can you be sure without measuring whether you could get 41 or 42 along a wall?
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: Art on February 15, 2006, 07:41:05 pm
Pace it as you park up and make your way to reception
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:43:35 pm
lololol................nope
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:45:19 pm
Its nothing to do with doors. Even if you knew the measurement of a door how can you be sure without measuring whether you could get 41 or 42 along a wall?

The long wall usually full of windows, so estimate number of door you could fit between two or more windows and get the size of long wall, the short wall is even easier, number of doors or desks would help you…

Is it the number of lights you rely on?
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:47:20 pm
It's nothing to do with doors, windows or desks. How can lights tell you?

This is ACCURATE, not an estimate.
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:49:31 pm
...This is ACCURATE, not an estimate.

How accurate
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:49:53 pm
VERY accurate when it can be done but remember it can only be done 99% of the time.
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:53:14 pm
VERY accurate ...

Is it accurate by one inch, foot or yard?
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:54:52 pm
On an area of, say, 500 sq metres it can be accurate to 1 or 2 square metres.
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: solar on February 15, 2006, 07:55:40 pm
stand ther and point you digital measure at a wall
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:56:21 pm
stand ther and point you digital measure at a wall
;D ;D
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 07:56:31 pm
Nope. No tapes. Digital or otherwise.
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:57:12 pm
........Many years ago in the early 80's ....
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 07:58:52 pm
 ::) ??? 
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: solar on February 15, 2006, 08:00:06 pm
he used a calculator
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 08:01:56 pm
Ok. I suppose I'll have to tell you..............it's so simple...................

Count the ceiling tiles!!!

Given that the ceiling tiles are probably 1 metre X half a metre, work it out from that.

I said it could only be done 99% of the time.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 08:02:19 pm
he used a calculator

 ;D Are you kdding? ;D
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: solar on February 15, 2006, 08:04:02 pm
 ??? :-X :'( ;D :D :D :D
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 08:04:24 pm
Ok. I suppose I'll have to tell you..............it's so simple...................

Count the ceiling tiles!!!

Given that the ceiling tiles are probably 1 metre X half a metre, work it out from that.

I said it could only be done 99% of the time.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: AJCleaningServices on February 15, 2006, 08:05:48 pm
...Given that the ceiling tiles are probably 1 metre X half a metre, work it out from that...

then

he used a calculator


 ;D

Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: Ian Rochester on February 15, 2006, 08:45:54 pm
If it has tiles down, then you can use them to measure, however other than that, I'm not sure, but looking forward to finding out!

Come on put us out of our misery!!!!
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: CMS on February 15, 2006, 08:49:59 pm
Already told you. look back a few posts.
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: Tim Downer on February 15, 2006, 10:32:43 pm
Well that must be a record for this site.....3 pages of postings in a couple of hours!!!!

Do none of you work?? ;D ;D ;D

Tim
Title: Re: OK - who's for guessing?
Post by: Tim Downer on February 15, 2006, 10:33:48 pm
I was only jesting, by the way....i do know you all work very hard!!