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Title: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: bobplum on December 06, 2012, 10:51:53 pm
i have a peugeot partner,with a bulk head and the tank is fixed to the bulk head with a large board across it,were i mount the pumps,controllers etc,if i was to place the lpg heater on this board and work with the doors open would this be enough ventilation

i thank you all
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: CleanClear on December 06, 2012, 11:03:49 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: bobplum on December 06, 2012, 11:13:53 pm
thank you :-*
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: Xtremely Clean on December 06, 2012, 11:17:23 pm
i have a peugeot partner,with a bulk head and the tank is fixed to the bulk head with a large board across it,were i mount the pumps,controllers etc,if i was to place the lpg heater on this board and work with the doors open would this be enough ventilation

i thank you all
Just be careful no kids tamper with it while your round the back of a property!!
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: sham33 on December 07, 2012, 03:35:06 pm
So you dont always need a flu then? Thats what put me off fitting one I have a berlingo pretty much the same as a partner van.
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: Dave Willis on December 07, 2012, 03:44:19 pm
You can get a flu jab in Tescos if it helps.
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: steven ainger on December 07, 2012, 04:04:32 pm
The only problem not having an external flue is that the inside of your van will be running with condensation and it will steam up the cab, even with a bulkhead.
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: DMC Window Cleaners Ltd on December 07, 2012, 05:08:10 pm
we have one on a transit on the bloke head next to the sliding door, it vents out perfect and doesnt steam cab up
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: colin purewater on December 07, 2012, 05:14:41 pm
i have a peugeot partner,with a bulk head and the tank is fixed to the bulk head with a large board across it,were i mount the pumps,controllers etc,if i was to place the lpg heater on this board and work with the doors open would this be enough ventilation

i thank you all

Sound like a lot of co2 knocking round you van
To me mate even with the doors open

Can't you just put a flu in or mount it on you back
Doors bob just to be on the safe side
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: bobplum on December 07, 2012, 05:28:57 pm
i have a peugeot partner,with a bulk head and the tank is fixed to the bulk head with a large board across it,were i mount the pumps,controllers etc,if i was to place the lpg heater on this board and work with the doors open would this be enough ventilation

i thank you all

Sound like a lot of co2 knocking round you van
To me mate even with the doors open

Can't you just put a flu in or mount it on you back
Doors bob just to be on the safe side

i want it to look pretty like stave aingers ;D
i probably will put a flue thru the roof
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: steven ainger on December 07, 2012, 05:35:23 pm
Theres a peugeot partner on ebay with a heater & flue fitted if you want to get an idea what it would look like.
Just type in peugeot partner brodex
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: CleanClear on December 07, 2012, 05:35:58 pm
we have one on a transit on the bloke head next to the sliding door, it vents out perfect and doesnt steam cab up
If he's happy to sit with it like that then all well and good to him. I'd say its dangerous though, or even maybe illegal.
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: colin purewater on December 07, 2012, 05:39:16 pm
Stick a carbon alarm in ye cab

I recon you'll have a head ache by 9.15 bob
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: bobplum on December 07, 2012, 06:48:08 pm
Stick a carbon alarm in ye cab

I recon you'll have a head ache by 9.15 bob

its a headache every day around here ::)
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: PoleKing on December 07, 2012, 07:59:47 pm
I haven't got mine flued as when I'm using hot I keep the back door open.
Propane fumes are heavier than air so no risk there.
Co2-not sure tbh. I've got an OE bulkhead and my heater is near the back and I've never felt any adverse reactions at all.
Only problem ive had is that the boiler uses the flue for 'draw' on the flame so sometimes it shuts off. Not very often though.
That is just my experience.

www.laneswindowcleaning.com rutland
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: spongebob on December 07, 2012, 08:53:04 pm
I haven't got mine flued as when I'm using hot I keep the back door open.
Propane fumes are heavier than air so no risk there.
Co2-not sure tbh. I've got an OE bulkhead and my heater is near the back and I've never felt any adverse reactions at all.
Only problem ive had is that the boiler uses the flue for 'draw' on the flame so sometimes it shuts off. Not very often though.
That is just my experience.

www.laneswindowcleaning.com rutland

Propane gas is heavier than air, not propane fumes
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: Frankybadboy on December 07, 2012, 09:06:08 pm
I haven't got mine flued as when I'm using hot I keep the back door open.
Propane fumes are heavier than air so no risk there.
Co2-not sure tbh. I've got an OE bulkhead and my heater is near the back and I've never felt any adverse reactions at all.
Only problem ive had is that the boiler uses the flue for 'draw' on the flame so sometimes it shuts off. Not very often though.
That is just my experience.

www.laneswindowcleaning.com rutland

Propane gas is heavier than air, not propane fumes
do you clean windows spongebob ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: PoleKing on December 07, 2012, 09:09:02 pm
Propane fumes are carbon monoxide. Already mentioned.
But you are right Spongy

www.laneswindowcleaning.com rutland
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: Frankybadboy on December 07, 2012, 09:12:06 pm
Propane fumes are carbon monoxide. Already mentioned.
But you are right Spongy

www.laneswindowcleaning.com rutland
he knows he right hes a plumber for fleck  ;D
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: Mist A Bit on December 07, 2012, 10:21:12 pm
mine is right at the back and i always work with tail lift open as reals are fixed inside
i also leave my drivers side window open a bit so it doesn`t steam up.
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: steeley on December 08, 2012, 09:44:50 pm
Never mind about it not looking pretty, lpg is a very low lying gas with this in mind if not flued you would need the air to be constantly moving in back of van, i would get it flued think about it would you have a boiler in your house not flued but say its ok because when its being used im behind a closed door gas gets everywhere.


FLUE FLUE FLUE!
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: thermoclean on December 09, 2012, 08:36:57 am
Flue flue flue
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: david wood on December 09, 2012, 09:03:32 am
Theres a peugeot partner on ebay with a heater & flue fitted if you want to get an idea what it would look like.
Just type in peugeot partner brodex
the lad selling that van bought a tank of me and he was saying he sells heaters and flues and even fits them for you if needed i burned my last heater out but will ring him up when iam ready for new one and get it all fitted right
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: bobplum on December 09, 2012, 10:06:15 am
im getting the impression a flue is better...but not necessary ???
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: Window Washers on December 09, 2012, 10:23:02 am
im getting the impression a flue is better...but not necessary ???
i would say its necessary for safety reasons alone.
in a caravan do they have a flu kit on the heater.

Sadly I can see someone dying trying to cut corners or following information that's incorrect (not aimed at you are bob)
I read on hear the other day someone trying to bypass the safety cut out.

The best person to ask about gas is a gas safe certified plumber IMO
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: Steve Sed on December 09, 2012, 04:59:29 pm
im getting the impression a flue is better...but not necessary ???
i would say its necessary for safety reasons alone.
in a caravan do they have a flu kit on the heater.

Sadly I can see someone dying trying to cut corners or following information that's incorrect (not aimed at you are bob)
I read on hear the other day someone trying to bypass the safety cut out.

The best person to ask about gas is a gas safe certified plumber IMO

Do you know one that has a certificate on gas installations in vans?
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: PoleKing on December 09, 2012, 06:46:27 pm
If you find your closest caravan shop they'll point you in the right direction.
If you're anywhere near Grantham I can give you details of the guy here.

www.laneswindowcleaning.com rutland
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: Window Washers on December 09, 2012, 07:32:36 pm
im getting the impression a flue is better...but not necessary ???
i would say its necessary for safety reasons alone.
in a caravan do they have a flu kit on the heater.

Sadly I can see someone dying trying to cut corners or following information that's incorrect (not aimed at you are bob)
I read on hear the other day someone trying to bypass the safety cut out.

The best person to ask about gas is a gas safe certified plumber IMO

Do you know one that has a certificate on gas installations in vans?
you know what I mean mate
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: CleanClear on December 09, 2012, 11:20:14 pm
im getting the impression a flue is better...but not necessary ???

If you're going to run the heater with your van doors closed and you're going to sit in it whilst its on then get a flue. If you're going to use it as its intended and you mentioned, i.e in a semi open air scenario then you won't need a seperate flue.
Title: Re: ventilation for a lpg heater
Post by: bobplum on December 09, 2012, 11:25:59 pm
i think what i will do is install as mentioned and if i die i will fit a flue