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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: William Sharpe on December 05, 2012, 09:55:56 am

Title: bonnet V HWE
Post by: William Sharpe on December 05, 2012, 09:55:56 am
Yesterday my daughter called in a local guy who does bonnett cleaning, the carpet in lounge is a mushroom shag pile +- 3years old abour 5m x3m- he pre sprayed, bonnet cleaned in all just over 35min charged £60.00 and left. The carpet was quite wet and I would have estimated at least 5-7 hours to dry. :( :( :(
I then redid the carpet with my HWE system after fully rinsing out the recovery tank and the dirt, sand and masses of old carpet fibre extracted was unbelievable. I did this as I was thinking of purchasing a dry rotary system but now that will not happen. ??? I do use my rotary machine on commercial jobs followed by HWE and get great results
Comments please!!!
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: AshWhite on December 05, 2012, 10:05:18 am
How did it look after he had finished?
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: Billy Russell on December 05, 2012, 10:33:40 am
The only comment i have ( or advice i suppose! )

Buy yourself a tin hat!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 05, 2012, 10:56:10 am
Why didn't she just call you in he first place and save her self £60?

Did he not vacuum? Probably why you got so Many loose fibres
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: William Sharpe on December 05, 2012, 11:10:21 am
We called him in just to observe, he advertises "carpets dry in 1 hour" "best clean you will ever have" we were just interested to see how he steps up to his commitments :P The carpets looked ok -ish but not convinced it is the best system for a shag pile and deffinately not dry in one hour!! and yes he did vacuum 1st. I'm just more convinced to stick with HWE :)

Billy whats with the tin hat ????????
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: garry22 on December 05, 2012, 11:56:23 am
Don't blame the system. He just did a crap job.

It's the same argument as when you come across a HWE job that has taken five days to dry and the suite now has mould on it (yes I've seen one like this). It does not mean HWE is bad, just the operator was lousy.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: William Sharpe on December 05, 2012, 12:13:30 pm
Wow- Gary I fully agree with you dry fusion, encapulation, HWE they all have their place and results are in the hands of the technition their knowhow commitment and dedication. I have used a rotary sytem for years and always will. I guess I might have stirred up a hornets nest here not meaning to however I have preferred to Use HWE on a shag pile or possible a encap system which I know very little about and have never seen in action. The chap who did my daughters carpet just did not do as he advertises far from it and as far as advertising "the best clean you will ever get" well we will leave itb there.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: AshWhite on December 05, 2012, 12:25:57 pm
Again it comes back to not being commited to one tool/system and having the systems to handle any combination of carpets/soiling.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: Robin Ray on December 05, 2012, 01:38:43 pm
I just did a flat with the bonnet method, quite long pile. I did think "this needs HWE" however I was amazed with the results it took about an hour and was nearly dry when I left. However if I could have I would have extracted it and I'm sure If I went back and extracted it now I would have dirty water. But its what the custy wanted!

I think I will always prefer HWE as it is the ONLY method which extracts the soils out of the carpet, however all the other methods have their place, the key is to have all the tools available. The ultimate method IMO is HWE with a bonnet afterwards.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: *Hector* on December 05, 2012, 02:20:18 pm


as it is the ONLY method which extracts the soils out of the carpet,

Incorrect.......

Padding extracts soils out of the carpet as well.......... The amount depends on the operator the chemicals and the method used.......
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on December 05, 2012, 03:14:49 pm
Fu**ALL!!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: John Kelly on December 05, 2012, 04:06:48 pm
I wouldn't recommend bonneting a shag pile. Must have been a nightmare. Anyway the pre vacuuming with bonneting is the most important part.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 05, 2012, 04:23:13 pm
So you paid £60 to observe another carpet cleaner, you've  either  got too much money to waste or your middle name's  Pinocchio
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: wynne jones on December 05, 2012, 04:28:06 pm
Sounds like  he didn't ring his pads out very well. 7 hours?  :o

What it does show is that there are plenty of people running around doing amazingly poor jobs, yet they are in business and making money.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: derek west on December 05, 2012, 04:36:44 pm
what i want to know is if i was in a fight with someone similar build and size and i had a hot water extraction machine with wand and my opponant had a rotary bonnet machine with pad and wringer. who would win, now that really is HWE V's Bonnet.  ;D
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: *Hector* on December 05, 2012, 04:42:43 pm
the wand has more reach..........................  >:(

but the pads make large frisbee's and can be hoiked from a distance..  :D

so...........  :P :P

draw I reckon  ;D ;D
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on December 05, 2012, 04:43:37 pm
Shag pile are a nightmare even hoovering for ages and ages doesn't get all the bits they just hide away lol iv'e done quite a few with my DF and i end up hoovering bits again if its a rug though a good shake outside is best then vac.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: Robin Ray on December 05, 2012, 04:56:24 pm
Hector, I will agree that bonneting does extract some soils however in my opinion HWE extracts a lot more soils. As a customer I would likely be happy with the visual result of either method if caried out well but as an operator I feel more comfortable with HWE.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: bennymon on December 05, 2012, 06:00:57 pm
Just sounds to me like no vacc and to much solution
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: Mr Dvae on December 05, 2012, 08:34:11 pm
just remember guys, padding wasn't invented to clean shagpile.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: Jamie Pearson on December 05, 2012, 08:58:00 pm
just remember guys, padding wasn't invented to clean shagpile.

Correct. Rotary shampoo was.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: Paul Moss on December 05, 2012, 09:45:34 pm
 ;D sure was
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: John Geurkink on December 05, 2012, 09:49:59 pm
just remember guys, padding wasn't invented to clean shagpile.

Lol, love the responce to that, when I started cleaning in '73 it was either sculptured lowpile or shag pile, pad cleaning did a great job and yes much of what was around at the time was rotary shampoo, hwe we just starting to take ahold back then.
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: William Sharpe on December 05, 2012, 10:14:22 pm
 HWE seems in the shaggy case, to be the favoured option - I think i'll stick to what I know!! by the way have any of you heard of the "truck mount sytem" if so is it any good or is the porty still king??
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: derek west on December 05, 2012, 10:28:49 pm
portys still king william and ABBA are still number one. ;D
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: bennymon on December 05, 2012, 10:34:25 pm
That's good news Derek finally a good number 1 lol
Title: Re: bonnet V HWE
Post by: William Sharpe on December 06, 2012, 12:02:57 am
 ;D ;D ;D