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Title: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 05:30:51 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQ9aJYl07U&feature=youtu.be


We did a test today to see the outcome of wall cleaning  with Magica and I must say it was quiet good.

For those of you who already bought the Magica One Go, you can offer this service to your customers as a pre painting  wall cleaning  in some cases’ when a customer see the result of this, they might not even paint it, which save them few thousand pounds.
Obviously you need to point out to your customers that it wont remove marks which have stained the wall Ie: rust on the walls, and you can only clean soft surface walls with this.

P.S. you can charge good money this kind of jobs.  :)
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Richard Avis on August 20, 2012, 05:38:20 pm
where did you get it from?
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 05:40:43 pm
where did you get it from?

Sorry Richard what you mean?
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 20, 2012, 05:55:16 pm
where did you get it from?

Sorry Richard what you mean?

The question probably reflects the fact that almost every time you mention the product in a starting post, you use terms that (in my opinion) suggest you buy the stuff rather than terms that suggest you're trying to sell the stuff.  Even on your YouTube video, the footer says "we use a special product called..." rather than "we sell a product called..."

So, I'm not surprised that there's confusion.

Vin
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Richard Avis on August 20, 2012, 05:56:02 pm
Where did you buy the stuff from?
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 05:58:03 pm
where did you get it from?

Sorry Richard what you mean?

The question probably reflects the fact that almost every time you mention the product in a starting post, you use terms that (in my opinion) suggest you buy the stuff rather than terms that suggest you're trying to sell the stuff.  Even on your YouTube video, the footer says "we use a special product called..." rather than "we sell a product called..."

So, I'm not surprised that there's confusion.

Vin

I am not selling it on my business site, this is a different business therefore we have two separate business  :)
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 06:00:07 pm
Where did you buy the stuff from?

If you keep looking on top of this  forum, there is a banner advertising Magica One Go, just click on it and it will take you to the sellers e bay site.

Hope this help.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: *Hector* on August 20, 2012, 06:02:56 pm
Why do you direct everyone to ebay to buy it??

I would have thought it would make more sense to build a website (even 1 page) and sell it off that. Then you would only have pay pal fees and not ebay ones too.

You can do a free e commerce site with wix or weebly if the cost of your own site is too much.

Just a thought like....

Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 06:12:29 pm
Why do you direct everyone to ebay to buy it??

I would have thought it would make more sense to build a website (even 1 page) and sell it off that. Then you would only have pay pal fees and not ebay ones too.

You can do a free e commerce site with wix or weebly if the cost of your own site is too much.

Just a thought like....




You are right Hector. And we defiantly will do that, we are just testing the market at the moment.
This is a easier way of getting the product kick start.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: john stracey on August 20, 2012, 06:24:20 pm
what is it like on fabric shop canopy's
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 20, 2012, 06:26:21 pm
where did you get it from?

Sorry Richard what you mean?

The question probably reflects the fact that almost every time you mention the product in a starting post, you use terms that (in my opinion) suggest you buy the stuff rather than terms that suggest you're trying to sell the stuff.  Even on your YouTube video, the footer says "we use a special product called..." rather than "we sell a product called..."

So, I'm not surprised that there's confusion.

Vin

I am not selling it on my business site, this is a different business therefore we have two separate business  :)

Well, there's a response that totally misses the point...
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 06:29:46 pm
what is it like on fabric shop canopy's
Fabric if its cotton, no good, because cotton will stain and very difficult to get the stains out, but its plastic, its great.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 06:35:20 pm
what is it like on fabric shop canopy's
Fabric if its cotton, no good, because cotton will stain and very difficult to get the stains out, but its plastic, its great.

This is an example we did last year on plastic blind and came out really good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bt1n2tmbTs
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: MWC on August 20, 2012, 07:11:40 pm
Terrible music on it  :(
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Richard Avis on August 20, 2012, 07:50:50 pm
Its not exactly the answer I was looking for but we got there in the end.....

So I will sit and click refresh until the banner comes around.... I could of just done with the company name....
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: MWC on August 20, 2012, 07:52:24 pm
Its not exactly the answer I was looking for but we got there in the end.....

So I will sit and click refresh until the banner comes around.... I could of just done with the company name....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-cleaner-cleaning-solution-Water-fed-pole-system-etc-500ml-/300758731193?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D1465366149927118906%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Richard Avis on August 20, 2012, 07:53:43 pm
Thank you....
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 08:12:49 pm
Its not exactly the answer I was looking for but we got there in the end.....

So I will sit and click refresh until the banner comes around.... I could of just done with the company name....

Sorry i thought you knew about the banner.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Richard Avis on August 20, 2012, 08:25:03 pm
Just for your info Bosh, I clicked refresh about 50 times and the banner never came round once, I still haven't seen it yet
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Nameless Drudge on August 20, 2012, 08:26:37 pm
I`ve taken someones advice and chilled out,i`m finding it all amusing now but this wall cleaning has taken it to a new level.
  Can someone ask Alex Gardiner which one of his brushes he recommends for brick/stone/concrete ?
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: trevor perry on August 20, 2012, 08:43:57 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQ9aJYl07U&feature=youtu.be


We did a test today to see the outcome of wall cleaning  with Magica and I must say it was quiet good.

For those of you who already bought the Magica One Go, you can offer this service to your customers as a pre painting  wall cleaning  in some cases’ when a customer see the result of this, they might not even paint it, which save them few thousand pounds.
Obviously you need to point out to your customers that it wont remove marks which have stained the wall Ie: rust on the walls, and you can only clean soft surface walls with this.

P.S. you can charge good money this kind of jobs.  :)

i am not knocking the chemical as it obviously worked, but there are much faster methods to clean walls than this, a powerwasher would of done that in seconds and made a better job
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 08:56:51 pm
Just for your info Bosh, I clicked refresh about 50 times and the banner never came round once, I still haven't seen it yet

Hi Richard it does com on a random, some times faster and some times slow.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 09:01:37 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQ9aJYl07U&feature=youtu.be


We did a test today to see the outcome of wall cleaning  with Magica and I must say it was quiet good.

For those of you who already bought the Magica One Go, you can offer this service to your customers as a pre painting  wall cleaning  in some cases’ when a customer see the result of this, they might not even paint it, which save them few thousand pounds.
Obviously you need to point out to your customers that it wont remove marks which have stained the wall Ie: rust on the walls, and you can only clean soft surface walls with this.

P.S. you can charge good money this kind of jobs.  :)

i am not knocking the chemical as it obviously worked, but there are much faster methods to clean walls than this, a powerwasher would of done that in seconds and made a better job

Hi trevor
Point taken, but the problem with jet washing is that it does some times take off the paint off the wall too, this is a  much safer  way of doing it, it might be slow but is a safe way.
Funny enough when we were doing this job today, the customers neighbour ask us if we can do hers too.  :)
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: gr cleaning solutions on August 20, 2012, 09:20:38 pm
good product but for wall cleaning wouldnt it be better with a power washer ?
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 20, 2012, 09:22:48 pm
good product but for wall cleaning wouldnt it be better with a power washer ?

I just explained to travor, power wash can chip off the paint off the wall.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Erithwc on August 20, 2012, 09:47:34 pm
I`ve taken someones advice and chilled out,i`m finding it all amusing now but this wall cleaning has taken it to a new level.
  Can someone ask Alex Gardiner which one of his brushes he recommends for brick/stone/concrete ?

None of the brushes  ;D i would have used a pressure washer  ;D ;D

There's no way i would kill my pole and brush on a wall.

Paul
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: richard jagger on August 20, 2012, 10:17:36 pm
Mr Boshravie  I have a good idea what Magica One is and were you get it from. If it is what I think it is ITS GOOD.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: KS Cleaning on August 20, 2012, 11:52:54 pm
Why do you direct everyone to ebay to buy it??

I would have thought it would make more sense to build a website (even 1 page) and sell it off that. Then you would only have pay pal fees and not ebay ones too.

You can do a free e commerce site with wix or weebly if the cost of your own site is too much.

Just a thought like....


The profit he makes from the excessive delivery charge will pay for the paypal fees ;)
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Richard iSparkle on August 20, 2012, 11:56:52 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQ9aJYl07U&feature=youtu.be


We did a test today to see the outcome of wall cleaning  with Magica and I must say it was quiet good.

For those of you who already bought the Magica One Go, you can offer this service to your customers as a pre painting  wall cleaning  in some cases’ when a customer see the result of this, they might not even paint it, which save them few thousand pounds.
Obviously you need to point out to your customers that it wont remove marks which have stained the wall Ie: rust on the walls, and you can only clean soft surface walls with this.

P.S. you can charge good money this kind of jobs.  :)


it just doesnt look impressive at all to me.  i think on that job shown i would get the same results with just pure water.  it's not even any quicker than i think i would be, and less mess, and less money
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: steve123 on August 21, 2012, 07:17:41 am
That looked very slow with moderate results to me.

And when he was finished I could not see through the wall at all. So can someone tell me.... what has this got to do with window cleaning?

Or are advertisers allowed to put what they want all over the forum now?
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Dave Willis on August 21, 2012, 07:43:26 am
Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Tony Edwards on August 21, 2012, 07:52:14 am
Mr Boshravie  I have a good idea what Magica One is and were you get it from. If it is what I think it is ITS GOOD.

So what is it then ?
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: trevor perry on August 21, 2012, 02:47:12 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQ9aJYl07U&feature=youtu.be


We did a test today to see the outcome of wall cleaning  with Magica and I must say it was quiet good.

For those of you who already bought the Magica One Go, you can offer this service to your customers as a pre painting  wall cleaning  in some cases’ when a customer see the result of this, they might not even paint it, which save them few thousand pounds.
Obviously you need to point out to your customers that it wont remove marks which have stained the wall Ie: rust on the walls, and you can only clean soft surface walls with this.

P.S. you can charge good money this kind of jobs.  :)

i am not knocking the chemical as it obviously worked, but there are much faster methods to clean walls than this, a powerwasher would of done that in seconds and made a better job

Hi trevor
Point taken, but the problem with jet washing is that it does some times take off the paint off the wall too, this is a  much safer  way of doing it, it might be slow but is a safe way.
Funny enough when we were doing this job today, the customers neighbour ask us if we can do hers too.  :)

with correct equipment pressure and flow can be turned down on pressure washer so paint wouldnt be removed
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Halfadaylee on August 21, 2012, 05:22:35 pm
Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

plus 1
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 21, 2012, 05:48:20 pm
Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  ;D
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  :)

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  :)
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 21, 2012, 05:54:19 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQ9aJYl07U&feature=youtu.be


We did a test today to see the outcome of wall cleaning  with Magica and I must say it was quiet good.

For those of you who already bought the Magica One Go, you can offer this service to your customers as a pre painting  wall cleaning  in some cases’ when a customer see the result of this, they might not even paint it, which save them few thousand pounds.
Obviously you need to point out to your customers that it wont remove marks which have stained the wall Ie: rust on the walls, and you can only clean soft surface walls with this.

P.S. you can charge good money this kind of jobs.  :)

i am not knocking the chemical as it obviously worked, but there are much faster methods to clean walls than this, a powerwasher would of done that in seconds and made a better job

Hi trevor
Point taken, but the problem with jet washing is that it does some times take off the paint off the wall too, this is a  much safer  way of doing it, it might be slow but is a safe way.
Funny enough when we were doing this job today, the customers neighbour ask us if we can do hers too.  :)

with correct equipment pressure and flow can be turned down on pressure washer so paint wouldnt be removed

Fair point trevor, i haven't yet used pressure washer on wall cleaning as yet, so i cant judge.i just thought with all that high pressure it would have taken the paint off.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Dave Willis on August 21, 2012, 06:13:31 pm
Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  ;D
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  :)

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  :)


I'm not argueing with you just stating a fact. Early days and the product seems pretty good in fact if it was competitively priced I'd have 25 litres of the stuff tomorrow. Don't kid me your trying to help us. You are interested in No1. It's called business and there ain't no friends in business I'm afraid.
You are advertising and plugging your product on a forum so you have to expect discussion good or bad I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 21, 2012, 06:33:59 pm
Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  ;D
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  :)

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  :)


I'm not argueing with you just stating a fact. Early days and the product seems pretty good in fact if it was competitively priced I'd have 25 litres of the stuff tomorrow. Don't kid me your trying to help us. You are interested in No1. It's called business and there ain't no friends in business I'm afraid.
You are advertising and plugging your product on a forum so you have to expect discussion good or bad I'm afraid.

I am afraid you are arguing without even tested the product.

So you don’t know the true facts about this product,
you don’t even know me, and you are judging me as to how I do business?  :)
sorry but I don’t business the way you think I do.  :)
You already know that blue tried the product and he put out a lengthy positive feed back about this product. So I don’t have to do that much of advertising for it. 
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: rosskesava on August 21, 2012, 06:46:25 pm
I am afraid you are arguing without even tested the product.

So you don’t know the true facts about this product,
you don’t even know me, and you are judging me as to how I do business?  :)
sorry but I don’t business the way you think I do.  :)
You already know that blue tried the product and he put out a lengthy positive feed back about this product. So I don’t have to do that much of advertising for it. 


Without meaning to say how you should do business, maybe it's best not to have a go at what could be potential customers. It won't do your business or your product any good what so ever.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Avo on August 21, 2012, 06:49:33 pm
Mugs!!!!!
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Avo on August 21, 2012, 06:52:22 pm
I can't believe we are still on this subject tbh..
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: EandM on August 21, 2012, 07:04:37 pm
As a Painter of many 25 years I've yet to find a more effective method of wall cleaning than diluted bleach, applied with a 12" Roller on a pole and then hosed off.
Pressure washing is always a little risky, partly because it absolutely soaks the render and unless it's mid-Summer (ha ha) you can't guarantee that it will dry out quickly enough to overpaint with water based masonry paint. If using resin based eg Pliolite or Dulux All Seasons a potentially damp wall is catastrophic. There is always the problem of the pressure blowing away small pieces of wall as well or finding it's way into elderly damp courses.

Second best and sometimes the best depending on how bad the surface is DI water. It algae dissolving properties are close to those of bleach if not quite so quick.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 21, 2012, 07:06:03 pm
I am afraid you are arguing without even tested the product.

So you don’t know the true facts about this product,
you don’t even know me, and you are judging me as to how I do business?  :)
sorry but I don’t business the way you think I do.  :)
You already know that blue tried the product and he put out a lengthy positive feed back about this product. So I don’t have to do that much of advertising for it. 


To tell you the truth, I wouldn’t want a customer who is putting me and the product  down without testing, because even if he had tried it, he would still find faults in it.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: gary999 on August 21, 2012, 07:46:57 pm
Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  ;D
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  :)

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  :)


I'm not argueing with you just stating a fact. Early days and the product seems pretty good in fact if it was competitively priced I'd have 25 litres of the stuff tomorrow. Don't kid me your trying to help us. You are interested in No1. It's called business and there ain't no friends in business I'm afraid.
You are advertising and plugging your product on a forum so you have to expect discussion good or bad I'm afraid.
i agree with post above
the only thing i find irritatingv about this, is how you keep going on about how you are trying to help everyone if that was the case you would be giving this product away,you have mentioned alex gardiner
several times,maybe you should take a leaf out his book he redeveloped a product using his
experience of being as a window cleaner the product is good and his customer service is good and he
has done well.

i tell you one thing he doesnt do though is waffle on about helping everyone its patronising
and gives everyone the idea that youa are trying to put one over people.if your product
is good it will sell..concentrate on your customer service and cut out the bullpoop!
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Dave Willis on August 21, 2012, 07:49:36 pm
If you read my post properly I actually said your product appears to be good, I also said If it was competitively priced I'd have some.
Now guys like Blue and many others test different cleaning products and share their findings with this forum. Unfortunately rather than share you've decided to make a profit from the forum. Shame really.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: rosskesava on August 21, 2012, 08:01:10 pm

To tell you the truth, I wouldn’t want a customer who is putting me and the product  down without testing, because even if he had tried it, he would still find faults in it.

Without meaning to sound rude, there's no way of knowing that so it's probably best not to say or write it.

Bosh - defending your product is a sign that you believe in it but it's best done in a positive and diplomatic manner. It actually comes across very negative on your part and all it does it encourage the 'have a bash' brigade.

I used your magica stuff on some guttering today and it got most of the black mould of fine.

For me who has used it, it don't matter what gets written because at some point, I'll probably buy some more. For others who might try it or are thinking about it, not only does having a go become a distraction, but it can put them off even trying it.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 21, 2012, 08:43:46 pm

To tell you the truth, I wouldn’t want a customer who is putting me and the product  down without testing, because even if he had tried it, he would still find faults in it.

Without meaning to sound rude, there's no way of knowing that so it's probably best not to say or write it.

Bosh - defending your product is a sign that you believe in it but it's best done in a positive and diplomatic manner. It actually comes across very negative on your part and all it does it encourage the 'have a bash' brigade.

I used your magica stuff on some guttering today and it got most of the black mould of fine.

For me who has used it, it don't matter what gets written because at some point, I'll probably buy some more. For others who might try it or are thinking about it, not only does having a go become a distraction, but it can put them off even trying it.


Point taken.

you see I am always positive person in life, and if you look at my other posts, I never ever put anyone down, even if they wrong.  but unfortunately, there some on here that are out  just to try putting me or the product  down without any  evidence, and I am sorry but there are times that I have to defend my integrity.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 21, 2012, 08:55:05 pm
Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  ;D
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  :)

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  :)


I'm not argueing with you just stating a fact. Early days and the product seems pretty good in fact if it was competitively priced I'd have 25 litres of the stuff tomorrow. Don't kid me your trying to help us. You are interested in No1. It's called business and there ain't no friends in business I'm afraid.
You are advertising and plugging your product on a forum so you have to expect discussion good or bad I'm afraid.
i agree with post above
the only thing i find irritatingv about this, is how you keep going on about how you are trying to help everyone if that was the case you would be giving this product away,you have mentioned alex gardiner
several times,maybe you should take a leaf out his book he redeveloped a product using his
experience of being as a window cleaner the product is good and his customer service is good and he
has done well.

i tell you one thing he doesnt do though is waffle on about helping everyone its patronising
and gives everyone the idea that youa are trying to put one over people.if your product
is good it will sell..concentrate on your customer service and cut out the bullpoop!


That’s your point of view.
I am not Alex and I don’t doubt that he has done a great thing for this industry, he may not say it, but he has help us all to have an easier life in terms of every day work  with water fed pole.

I don’t find that patronizing and doing one over people.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: gary999 on August 21, 2012, 09:45:59 pm
Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  ;D
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  :)

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  :)


I'm not argueing with you just stating a fact. Early days and the product seems pretty good in fact if it was competitively priced I'd have 25 litres of the stuff tomorrow. Don't kid me your trying to help us. You are interested in No1. It's called business and there ain't no friends in business I'm afraid.
You are advertising and plugging your product on a forum so you have to expect discussion good or bad I'm afraid.
i agree with post above
the only thing i find irritatingv about this, is how you keep going on about how you are trying to help everyone if that was the case you would be giving this product away,you have mentioned alex gardiner
several times,maybe you should take a leaf out his book he redeveloped a product using his
experience of being as a window cleaner the product is good and his customer service is good and he
has done well.

i tell you one thing he doesnt do though is waffle on about helping everyone its patronising
and gives everyone the idea that youa are trying to put one over people.if your product
is good it will sell..concentrate on your customer service and cut out the bullpoop!


That’s your point of view.
I am not Alex and I don’t doubt that he has done a great thing for this industry, he may not say it, but he has help us all to have an easier life in terms of every day work  with water fed pole.

I don’t find that patronizing and doing one over people.


he has helped in every day work by developing a product that is good and his backup service is excellent
but he isnt waffling on here how he wants to help everyone he is a businessman he is straight down the line with it there is no bullpoop.

you are giving people the wrong impression read back your own posts,you are not doing your
brand any favours.

froggy is a spot on guy and has given you a glowing reference but even with that reference
im not keen on the idea of buying from you,something wrong somewhere ???
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: G Griffin on August 21, 2012, 10:21:16 pm
Bosh has a problem here. He has an overpriced product he's desperate to sell, wants to use this forum to sell it and yet risks incurring the wrath of the members on here. People don't like being force fed the sell. It's bad enough reading the other crap that Bosh comes out with like some strange religious cult.
Just stick to the banner at the top thanks. Maybe get a 'sticky' at the top that we can ignore if we choose to.

desperate to sell ?  ;D
as I said before I have found a great product that it can be help to those who use water fed pole and if any one interested they buy if not that’s their choice. And I am not into forcing any one to buy it, I don’t know where you get your facts from, if you had a product and was selling it on here, I would be encouraging you to do  well in your business, because you have mad my life little easier.

As I said again, I am not here for slinging match. It appear that this product is not for you.  :)

P.S. the price you see for this product, its not all profit, that’s if you know anything about business.  :)


I'm not argueing with you just stating a fact. Early days and the product seems pretty good in fact if it was competitively priced I'd have 25 litres of the stuff tomorrow. Don't kid me your trying to help us. You are interested in No1. It's called business and there ain't no friends in business I'm afraid.
You are advertising and plugging your product on a forum so you have to expect discussion good or bad I'm afraid.
i agree with post above
the only thing i find irritatingv about this, is how you keep going on about how you are trying to help everyone if that was the case you would be giving this product away,you have mentioned alex gardiner
several times,maybe you should take a leaf out his book he redeveloped a product using his
experience of being as a window cleaner the product is good and his customer service is good and he
has done well.

i tell you one thing he doesnt do though is waffle on about helping everyone its patronising
and gives everyone the idea that youa are trying to put one over people.if your product
is good it will sell..concentrate on your customer service and cut out the bullpoop!


That’s your point of view.
I am not Alex and I don’t doubt that he has done a great thing for this industry, he may not say it, but he has help us all to have an easier life in terms of every day work  with water fed pole.

I don’t find that patronizing and doing one over people.


Alex G helps himself and rightfully so. People help themselves (or try to) by buying his products. It's a mutually beneficial deal. When either- or both- stop benefitting, then we'll see how great a thing it is that he's done.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on August 21, 2012, 10:23:17 pm
ill sell you a bottle for £20 gary but you will have to pick it up ;D
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: rosskesava on August 21, 2012, 11:10:10 pm
Mugs!!!!!

Why?
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Perfect Windows on August 22, 2012, 06:47:17 am
Why is this on the window cleaning forum?
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Avo on August 22, 2012, 07:59:52 am
Mugs!!!!!

Why?
Because your buying into this... Bosh maybe a really nice guy but he's a naughty boy  ;)
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Dave. on August 22, 2012, 08:16:27 am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the fibres on an unflocked brush were cut square at the end and this helps their cleaning ability.
as they wear, they become rounded, and this reduces their effectiveness.

Using a water fed pole against masonary for a period of time is going to speed up the wearing process?

I clean walls with a pressure washer - using a extendable lance - sometimes with a 12" flat surface cleaner attached.  Flacking paint & render are usually easy to spot and discussed with the customer prior to cleaning.

I'll try the paint roller with hypo technique next time I clean a 'green' house

Dave
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Tom White on August 22, 2012, 08:50:42 am
Why is this on the window cleaning forum?

I think it comes under the heading of an 'add on' to window cleaning, so it's fair game in my books.

Just like the 'Gutter and soffit cleaning post' that no-one has complained about.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: rosskesava on August 22, 2012, 09:04:22 am

Because your buying into this... Bosh maybe a really nice guy but he's a naughty boy  ;)

Buying a bottle of some cleaning stuff to try out is hardly 'buying into this'. I do the same when my local cleaning supplier gets new stuff in.

Why Boshravie a naughty boy?
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: William McCafferty on August 22, 2012, 09:18:10 am
Hi Bosh

I have just watched your video and personally I cannot see any difference between this product and others I use on a weekly basis.

Like jp I like to try different chemicals, equipment and methods to speed up my cleaning process.

On first cleans I cleans everything that is white and in the customers eyeline, I have not done a staircase yet, but I have washed down the walls and porches which have been lot dirtier than the one you showed.

I have tried various products and all do clean to some degree, some of the products I use come from the carpet cleaning, car washes, engine cleaners and even sainsburys, where I get nector points.

While I am not knocking your product or method of conducting business, I do feel that you need to show how this product compares with the other chemicals and diffrent cleaning methods that are being used on a daily basis.

In the early days Alex did the same, he showed how his poles compared with others on the market and let the potential customers decide.

Pricewise, charge what you like, I use to have a shop and market stall, I would buy my products double the price, add 20%  and that would be the price I sell at, if you are to high for the product compared to others on the market then you won't sell many, if you sell loads and make net profit, then why worry what people say about your charges.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: Avo on August 22, 2012, 02:23:58 pm
Mr Boshravie  I have a good idea what Magica One is and were you get it from. If it is what I think it is ITS GOOD.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 22, 2012, 04:34:12 pm
Why is this on the window cleaning forum?

I think it comes under the heading of an 'add on' to window cleaning, so it's fair game in my books.

Just like the 'Gutter and soffit cleaning post' that no-one has complained about.

Thanks Tosh  :)
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 22, 2012, 04:47:04 pm
Hi Bosh

I have just watched your video and personally I cannot see any difference between this product and others I use on a weekly basis.

Like jp I like to try different chemicals, equipment and methods to speed up my cleaning process.

On first cleans I cleans everything that is white and in the customers eyeline, I have not done a staircase yet, but I have washed down the walls and porches which have been lot dirtier than the one you showed.

I have tried various products and all do clean to some degree, some of the products I use come from the carpet cleaning, car washes, engine cleaners and even sainsburys, where I get nector points.

While I am not knocking your product or method of conducting business, I do feel that you need to show how this product compares with the other chemicals and diffrent cleaning methods that are being used on a daily basis.

In the early days Alex did the same, he showed how his poles compared with others on the market and let the potential customers decide.

Pricewise, charge what you like, I use to have a shop and market stall, I would buy my products double the price, add 20%  and that would be the price I sell at, if you are to high for the product compared to others on the market then you won't sell many, if you sell loads and make net profit, then why worry what people say about your charges.


Hi Hydro
I don’t like to knock other peoples products, all I am saying is that among some of the products I have used before, I have found that magica top them all, this is my opinion, and I am sure when others use it will agree with me.

In terms of price I am fair man, at the moment the product, packaging, e bay payment and paypal takes a bit of money, and as we sell more of Magica hopefully the price will come down. because we can buy the product in Baulk.
Title: Re: Wall Cleaning By Magica One Go
Post by: boshravie on August 22, 2012, 06:13:24 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the fibres on an unflocked brush were cut square at the end and this helps their cleaning ability.
as they wear, they become rounded, and this reduces their effectiveness.

Using a water fed pole against masonary for a period of time is going to speed up the wearing process?

I clean walls with a pressure washer - using a extendable lance - sometimes with a 12" flat surface cleaner attached.  Flacking paint & render are usually easy to spot and discussed with the customer prior to cleaning.

I'll try the paint roller with hypo technique next time I clean a 'green' house

Dave

Generally I use my old brushes for wall cleaning but on this specific video I just used our existing brush, but you be surprise on new gardiners brushes, they are hard wearing.