Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: boshravie on July 20, 2012, 06:24:38 pm
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This one we did today, notice how easy and quick this window was cleaned and sparkeled :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY&feature=plcp
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The same as Ecover.
I did a first clean this morning and went back for the money when she got home at lunch-time, and the glass was stunning.
I put the Ecover directly on the brush and scrub away. Makes first cleans a doddle.
Art
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Ecover is a hell of a lot cheaper as well :p
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i did a first clean this morning.i just normally use pure and scrub twice as much and rinse more.they came up mint!!
i have got a big glass conny roof to do tomorrow so ill use a 5L PRESSURE SPRAYER with ecover washing up liquid on it first then a good scrub and rinse with wfp and then(if needed)a squeegee on a trad pole if there are any little bits left on the roof! ;) ;D ;D ;D
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I have tried lots of different product on the market, but all I can say you wont know how good this product is until you try it.
Its just Magic, :)
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How come your using your aqua dapter upside down? ;D
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How come your using your aqua dapter upside down? ;D
Its just Magic ;D ;D
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This one we did today, notice how easy and quick this window was cleaned and sparkeled :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY&feature=plcp
pure water will have been enough! you try to sell us your product when it is no need! and too expensive!
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lets face it that window was hardly even dirty, just a few cobwebs
whats the product like on the upvc windows that aint been cleaned in years and has the grey discoloured looked from ground in dirt?
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lets face it that window was hardly even dirty, just a few cobwebs
whats the product like on the upvc windows that aint been cleaned in years and has the grey discoloured looked from ground in dirt?
Here is a great example :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0ZAF8DXKm4&feature=plcp
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Would like to see the results on a proper window and not the frosted glass type bathroom and perspex roof tpes.
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Noticed it was an obscure, ground floor, very small, not very dirty window.
Apart from that music not bad.
G.
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There will be more videos to come. :)
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also bosh i know you use hot water which is probably doing half the work...
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also bosh i know you use hot water which is probably doing half the work...
We don’t always use hot water, this product is design to be used for Cold as well Hot wash.
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Bosh why not send a few samples out to members of the Forum for independent testing, if the testers agree with you that its as good as you say I think quiet a few on here would give it a go and you would be quids in?
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Bosh why not send a few samples out to members of the Forum for independent testing, if the testers agree with you that its as good as you say I think quiet a few on here would give it a go and you would be quids in?
:)
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Yep though so ;)
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im in for a free sample and an unbiased opinion.
i use ecover/virosol and another product i am currently testing for a chemical manufacturer ;)
i honestly would like to trial this bosh and will give you an unbiased opinion m8.
if its as good as you say then you could be quids in....people need an opinion other than the sellers to market something.
hence here i am offering you an opinion.
i have 4 conny roofs , 3 full exterior cleans ,5 fascia cleans , a carport clean and couple ;) of first cleans i would like to trial it on.
this is a good mix of the works that we all undertake so could be a good starter .
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im in for a free sample and an unbiased opinion.
i use ecover/virosol and another product i am currently testing for a chemical manufacturer ;)
i honestly would like to trial this bosh and will give you an unbiased opinion m8.
if its as good as you say then you could be quids in....people need an opinion other than the sellers to market something.
hence here i am offering you an opinion.
i have 4 conny roofs , 3 full exterior cleans ,5 fascia cleans , a carport clean and couple ;) of first cleans i would like to trial it on.
this is a good mix of the works that we all undertake so could be a good starter .
In this case you need to buy 2x 5 ltr tub. :)
We do stuck these as well for very large jobs :)
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no helping some m8.
you have to see that the market is flooded with miracle products.......most dont work..
i may be wrong here but trying to sell a miracle product is really difficult with no real user reviews..
in the words of duncan bannatyne " IM OUT " good luck though ;)
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no helping some m8.
you have to see that the market is flooded with miracle products.......most dont work..
i may be wrong here but trying to sell a miracle product is really difficult with no real user reviews..
in the words of duncan bannatyne " IM OUT OOT " good luck though ;)
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no helping some m8.
you have to see that the market is flooded with miracle products.......most dont work..
i may be wrong here but trying to sell a miracle product is really difficult with no real user reviews..
in the words of duncan bannatyne " IM OUT " good luck though ;)
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Forgive me for saying bosh but it wasnt that quick
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You know I never forget when water fed pole came to the market and I could say at least 90% on here was nuking it down, Also with other companies like Gardiner, or Ionic and some others …….. and look where they are now, very successful companies.
Instead of praise the person who has brought something good to the market and to make life easier for you and to encourage him or her to do better,
All you do is to criticize them, even without trying the product.
I am sure the ones who criticize me and my product on here are among the few.
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How much does it cost? Where can you buy it?
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How much does it cost? Where can you buy it?
Hi Sure
Here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-cleaner-cleaning-solution-for-Water-fed-pole-system-etc-500ml-/300739714168?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item46057bdc78#ht_1313wt_1219
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You know I never forget when water fed pole came to the market and I could say at least 90% on here was nuking it down, Also with other companies like Gardiner, or Ionic and some others …….. and look where they are now, very successful companies.
Instead of praise the person who has brought something good to the market and to make life easier for you and to encourage him or her to do better,
All you do is to criticize them, even without trying the product.
I am sure the ones who criticize me and my product on here are among the few.
you don't want to give us some samples, i am sorry mate but your product may be good but far too expensive. virosol does the same job and it is much cheaper!
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I would have stared by brushing down with a cobweb brush and then cleaned with pure water only. Same result, but quicker - less time spent rinsing the detergennt away.
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I'll start off by apologising as I don't like to criticise, but .........
The frames were only covered in cobwebs and fresh green algae, which is very easy to remove just using cold pure water.
As someone else has posted, show some real results by cleaning stubborn grey stains off the framework.
You may not like all the negative posts, but you are trying to plug your product for free on here quite a lot. People may take you more seriously if you put a paid advert in somewhere. (I'll eat humble pie if you already have one).
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I'll start off by apologising as I don't like to criticise, but .........
The frames were only covered in cobwebs and fresh green algae, which is very easy to remove just using cold pure water.
As someone else has posted, show some real results by cleaning stubborn grey stains off the framework.
You may not like all the negative posts, but you are trying to plug your product for free on here quite a lot. People may take you more seriously if you put a paid advert in somewhere. (I'll eat humble pie if you already have one).
I'll start off by apologising as I don't like to criticise, but .........
Apologies accept it.
The frames were only covered in cobwebs and fresh green algae, which is very easy to remove just using cold pure water.
Yes you can but as we have cleaned these kind of dirty windows before using magica One Go.
When you just wash with cold water, it removes the algae and cobweb, but you need to use a lot of water and it doesn’t give that shine on U.P.V.C frames. Therefore by using this product, you save your water.
As someone else has posted, show some real results by cleaning stubborn grey stains off the framework.
You may not like all the negative posts, but you are trying to plug your product for free on here quite a lot. People may take you more seriously if you put a paid advert in somewhere. (I'll eat humble pie if you already have one).
Any product which comes to market will get a some negative comment, these negative comments are due to fear of unknown, therefore i expected to receive some negative comments.
As to Free Advertising on here, yes I have advertised here for free, because I have a product which benefit those who want to work easier and at the same time get a better result and I don’t see why I shouldn’t have advertised here.
I remember when Alex-Gardiner 1st came up with his pole idea, he didn’t have to pay for any advertising did he?
But just to keep you happy, we have already paid for advertising on here which will show as from 16th Aug 12.
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I'll start off by apologising as I don't like to criticise, but .........
The frames were only covered in cobwebs and fresh green algae, which is very easy to remove just using cold pure water.
As someone else has posted, show some real results by cleaning stubborn grey stains off the framework.
You may not like all the negative posts, but you are trying to plug your product for free on here quite a lot. People may take you more seriously if you put a paid advert in somewhere. (I'll eat humble pie if you already have one).
I'll start off by apologising as I don't like to criticise, but .........
Apologies accept it.
The frames were only covered in cobwebs and fresh green algae, which is very easy to remove just using cold pure water.
Yes you can but as we have cleaned these kind of dirty windows before using magica One Go.
When you just wash with cold water, it removes the algae and cobweb, but you need to use a lot of water and it doesn’t give that shine on U.P.V.C frames. Therefore by using this product, you save your water.
As someone else has posted, show some real results by cleaning stubborn grey stains off the framework.
You may not like all the negative posts, but you are trying to plug your product for free on here quite a lot. People may take you more seriously if you put a paid advert in somewhere. (I'll eat humble pie if you already have one).
Any product which comes to market will get a some negative comment, these negative comments are due to fear of unknown, therefore i expected to receive some negative comments.
As to Free Advertising on here, yes I have advertised here for free, because I have a product which benefit those who want to work easier and at the same time get a better result and I don’t see why I shouldn’t have advertised here.
I remember when Alex-Gardiner 1st came up with his pole idea, he didn’t have to pay for any advertising did he?
But just to keep you happy, we have already paid for advertising on here which will show as from 16th Aug 12.[/color]
Sarky git.
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"When you just wash with cold water, it removes the algae and cobweb, but you need to use a lot of water and it doesn’t give that shine on U.P.V.C frames. Therefore by using this product, you save your water. "
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I can hardly belive the pressure and volume of water being applied to this window.
It is almost like a pressure washer.
How does this save water?
g.
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i would of cleaned half a house by the time you finished that small window :)
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A long time taken washing off the suds, so very doubtful any water was saved. You're probably using more water if anything.
I didn't take the response to advertising as sarcasm, so fair play to you. I genuinely hope you make a success of your new venture.
There was no response to cleaning off very grey cills. Have you avoided this point for a reason? :o
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Hi Boshravie, I have to say I like the look of your product, although I've never used anything but tap water followed by pure water for facias, gutters, conservatories etc. so I wouldn't be the best judge. Your product does seem to make the cleaning of such things much easier. Can you tell me how your product differs from some of the other similar products currently on the market? Also, is your product environmentally friendly? Thanks.
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A long time taken washing off the suds, so very doubtful any water was saved. You're probably using more water if anything.
I didn't take the response to advertising as sarcasm, so fair play to you. I genuinely hope you make a success of your new venture.
There was no response to cleaning off very grey cills. Have you avoided this point for a reason? :o
Sorry you need to explain more in details about Gray Cills, there has been time where there were some Black marks on U.P.V.C. frames and it has taken the marks off with ease
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Hi Boshravie, I have to say I like the look of your product, although I've never used anything but tap water followed by pure water for facias, gutters, conservatories etc. so I wouldn't be the best judge. Your product does seem to make the cleaning of such things much easier. Can you tell me how your product differs from some of the other similar products currently on the market? Also, is your product environmentally friendly? Thanks.
Hi Barry
Well , the major different that I have noticed is that firstly this product foam a lot at first apply which help to remove most of soil ext…. ,and the foam will wash off much quicker than other products.
Secondly when we wash U.P.V.C. we notice that it brighten the plastic much better than other products.
You see I have used this product for the past year and I have used it on so many different areas, even on painted walls, which I will take a video soon and its just amazing result from it, that’s why I decided to mark it.
P.S. on our E bay shop you will notice most of the people who have purchase it have been happy with it so far.
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Post the vids for all to see then and prove the doubters wrong
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Post the vids for all to see then and prove the doubters wrong
you mean about washing the painted walls?
if that the video is in the process :)
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No, the stubborn grey stains you get on cills.
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Bosh why not send a few samples out to members of the Forum for independent testing, if the testers agree with you that its as good as you say I think quiet a few on here would give it a go and you would be quids in?
Exactly !!
I suggested the exact same and tart arse said it was a bad idea!
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No, the stubborn grey stains you get on cills.
yes sure will do when ever we get new 1st time clean, i will video it.
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ok firstly I like the look of your
product if it is a good as you claim but the video shows a window with surface dirt/cobwebs which are easily removed just as quickly if not quicker with just a wipe and pure water.
By grey cills I ment the windows that havent been cleaned in a few years!! very ingrained dirt makes the white upvc look dull and greyish
usually I use a upvc restorer on these and good old fashioned elbow grease followed by washing the window again with pure water!! This is very time consuming and if your product can do this quicker then your onto a winner
So if you have a video of it cleaning that kinda window/first clean then please post it!!
Also the reason i think u get a bit of grief about advertising your product is no one has tried it and we only have your word for it that its any good!!
All suppliers and businesses bringing a new product to the masses have to be prepared for it to be tested etc the more peeps raving about it the more sales you will get?? I am quite sure all the wfp makers and supplier send there products out to be independantly tested before they are released and to get people talking about it?? I may be wrong tho ;D
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ok firstly I like the look of your
product if it is a good as you claim but the video shows a window with surface dirt/cobwebs which are easily removed just as quickly if not quicker with just a wipe and pure water.
By grey cills I ment the windows that havent been cleaned in a few years!! very ingrained dirt makes the white upvc look dull and greyish
usually I use a upvc restorer on these and good old fashioned elbow grease followed by washing the window again with pure water!! This is very time consuming and if your product can do this quicker then your onto a winner
So if you have a video of it cleaning that kinda window/first clean then please post it!!
Also the reason i think u get a bit of grief about advertising your product is no one has tried it and we only have your word for it that its any good!!
All suppliers and businesses bringing a new product to the masses have to be prepared for it to be tested etc the more peeps raving about it the more sales you will get?? I am quite sure all the wfp makers and supplier send there products out to be independantly tested before they are released and to get people talking about it?? I may be wrong tho ;D
I agree but your wasting your breath. Heard of getting blood out of a stone.
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hahaaaa I dont want a freebie just a vid of how good it is on proper minging windows with ingrained dirt!! I dont mind paying for anything that makes my first cleans easier ;D ;D
Rich
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ok firstly I like the look of your
product if it is a good as you claim but the video shows a window with surface dirt/cobwebs which are easily removed just as quickly if not quicker with just a wipe and pure water.
By grey cills I ment the windows that havent been cleaned in a few years!! very ingrained dirt makes the white upvc look dull and greyish
usually I use a upvc restorer on these and good old fashioned elbow grease followed by washing the window again with pure water!! This is very time consuming and if your product can do this quicker then your onto a winner
So if you have a video of it cleaning that kinda window/first clean then please post it!!
Also the reason i think u get a bit of grief about advertising your product is no one has tried it and we only have your word for it that its any good!!
All suppliers and businesses bringing a new product to the masses have to be prepared for it to be tested etc the more peeps raving about it the more sales you will get?? I am quite sure all the wfp makers and supplier send there products out to be independantly tested before they are released and to get people talking about it?? I may be wrong tho ;D
Many thanks for your positive reply Band bury.
In response to your question regarding That kind of Gray marks, yes it has removed the top layer of the gray marks, and in some case it does remove all the gray marks, and I will take a video of it very soon.
And to answer to your second remark, yes I do agree that there will be questions asked hence I have shown on here lots videos as well as few good feed backs on our e bay shop.
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ok firstly I like the look of your
product if it is a good as you claim but the video shows a window with surface dirt/cobwebs which are easily removed just as quickly if not quicker with just a wipe and pure water.
By grey cills I ment the windows that havent been cleaned in a few years!! very ingrained dirt makes the white upvc look dull and greyish
usually I use a upvc restorer on these and good old fashioned elbow grease followed by washing the window again with pure water!! This is very time consuming and if your product can do this quicker then your onto a winner
So if you have a video of it cleaning that kinda window/first clean then please post it!!
Also the reason i think u get a bit of grief about advertising your product is no one has tried it and we only have your word for it that its any good!!
All suppliers and businesses bringing a new product to the masses have to be prepared for it to be tested etc the more peeps raving about it the more sales you will get?? I am quite sure all the wfp makers and supplier send there products out to be independantly tested before they are released and to get people talking about it?? I may be wrong tho ;D
Many thanks for your positive reply Band bury.
In response to your question regarding That kind of Gray marks, yes it has removed the top layer of the gray marks, and in some case it does remove all the gray marks, and I will take a video of it very soon.
And to answer to your second remark, yes I do agree that there will be questions asked hence I have shown on here lots videos as well as few good feed backs on our e bay shop.
eBay feedback means nothing ! Anyone can fake it. Your digging yourself a hole. Retire quietly before you get ripped to shreds on here.
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hahaaaa I dont want a freebie just a vid of how good it is on proper minging windows with ingrained dirt!! I dont mind paying for anything that makes my first cleans easier ;D ;D
Rich
Here is a good example of black marks, this sign hadn't been clean for 4 years. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuMiC1J2uxE&feature=plcp
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Sorry, not impressed me at all. You could still visibly see the faint staining on the sign when you'd finished.
Had you have cleaned the fascia board above main sign, removing all the water stains then I would have said great job.
You could also still see the black stains in the top corners of upvc in the doorway framework.
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Nice tune to have tapas to, but the boring window cleaning video ruined it a bit.
Bosh, you're rivalling ccmids for blatant advertising ;D.
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Give up pleassseeee !
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Well many thanks for your kind comments guys, it gives me something to go forward with.
Its always good to know I have lot of backing :)
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Well many thanks for your kind comments guys, it gives me something to go forward with.
Its always good to know I have lot of backing :)
easiest way to generate business = speculate.
give out some free samples to window cleaners = your target audience , to trial them for you.
the unbiased opinions you will receive are a great form of advertising your product on here.if its any good that is.
not knocking you by the way, in fact im trying to help you with your product.
if its pants then its ebay for you , hoping for the penny pinchers is how it will go ( i hope not by the way , i love innovators, speculators)
as i said im currently trialling a product from a big chemical manufacturer with full MSDS sheets and would love to see how magico compares.
it may blow it straight out the window, again it may not.
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Sorry, not impressed me at all. You could still visibly see the faint staining on the sign when you'd finished.
Had you have cleaned the fascia board above main sign, removing all the water stains then I would have said great job.
You could also still see the black stains in the top corners of upvc in the doorway framework.
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you can do the same job with pure water only!
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one way of working quicker is to go and see the local drug dealer and get some cheap whizz.its less than half the price round here.im spoilt for choice there are that many dealers!! ;D ;D ;D
then simply snort up the nose or dab on your tongue and away you go!!just use pure and wfp!!you could clean that window and frame in half the time boshravie!!! ;) :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Sorry, not impressed me at all. You could still visibly see the faint staining on the sign when you'd finished.
Had you have cleaned the fascia board above main sign, removing all the water stains then I would have said great job.
You could also still see the black stains in the top corners of upvc in the doorway framework.
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you can do the same job with pure water only!
agreed fairy or ecover virosol etc does the same job,if it had cleaned the water stains above
i would be impressed
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Daz,
I used a hand held 2 ltr pump sprayer £2 from home bargains as apposed to £12.99 hozlelock one.
Used ecover mixed with pure water, copied boshravie's vid and sprayed on brush, but hand-held sprays 10-12 feet.
And handle hooked onto my ladder stay nicely, ready to hand to spray back onto brush when needed; used just over half in spray bottle.
Have the bigger garden sprayer but this was so much easier.
Got tip from one of the guys off here (thanks).
Also used my vikan sill brush.
Sorry lot of this old news to you; but thought sprayer might save time.
Lee
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Which is it,non-caustic or non-acidic?,the ad on ebay says non acidic,the labelling on the product says non-caustic.
Interesting warnings on the label. I might buy some just so i can sue !
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Which is it,non-caustic or non-acidic?,the ad on ebay says non acidic,the labelling on the product says non-caustic.
Interesting warnings on the label. I might buy some just so i can sue !
;D ;D ;D
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one way of working quicker is to go and see the local drug dealer and get some cheap whizz.its less than half the price round here.im spoilt for choice there are that many dealers!! ;D ;D ;D
then simply snort up the nose or dab on your tongue and away you go!!just use pure and wfp!!you could clean that window and frame in half the time boshravie!!! ;) :D :D :D :D :D :D
A fiver to ruin ur life for 2 days ain't worth it , that's the worst of the worst I know a lot of people use it for work etc but it's pure dirt. May aswell have 5 spoons of coffee does same trick
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it was a joke jim lad!i do not condone drug use mate!a decent breakfast and a strong coffee does it for me(these days!!) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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This one we did today, notice how easy and quick this window was cleaned and sparkeled :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY&feature=plcp
if its so fast why did you speed up the video? :)
i could do it just as fast with my hot wash system. possibly even with cold wash?
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This one we did today, notice how easy and quick this window was cleaned and sparkeled :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY&feature=plcp
if its so fast why did you speed up the video? :)
i could do it just as fast with my hot wash system. possibly even with cold wash?
Hi Richard
We have hot wash too, but this particular sign on the video had so much soot and other soil on it that hot wash alone wouldn’t have cleaned it as well as it did with Magica.
It’s a great product :)
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This one we did today, notice how easy and quick this window was cleaned and sparkeled :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY&feature=plcp
if its so fast why did you speed up the video? :)
i could do it just as fast with my hot wash system. possibly even with cold wash?
Hi Richard
We have hot wash too, but this particular sign on the video had so much soot and other soil on it that hot wash alone wouldn’t have cleaned it as well as it did with Magica.
It’s a great product :)
i'll take a look at the new video bosh.
in all fairness the best thing to do if you want to make a real business out of this is to give it out free to people for a trial. if its a good product people will buy it after they've tried it. you can buy some little trial bottles to send out to people. if its good you'll see the gardiners effect. if people dont want to pay for it even after a trial then at least youll find out soon enough. your problem will be getting people to give it a try in the first place even if you give it away. its not something i have any interest in trying myself, i just dont see a problem it is fixing for me. but if there was enough chatter about it on here then i might be convinced to give it a go.
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This one we did today, notice how easy and quick this window was cleaned and sparkeled :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY&feature=plcp
if its so fast why did you speed up the video? :)
i could do it just as fast with my hot wash system. possibly even with cold wash?
Hi Richard
We have hot wash too, but this particular sign on the video had so much soot and other soil on it that hot wash alone wouldn’t have cleaned it as well as it did with Magica.
It’s a great product :)
i'll take a look at the new video bosh.
in all fairness the best thing to do if you want to make a real business out of this is to give it out free to people for a trial. if its a good product people will buy it after they've tried it. you can buy some little trial bottles to send out to people. if its good you'll see the gardiners effect. if people dont want to pay for it even after a trial then at least youll find out soon enough. your problem will be getting people to give it a try in the first place even if you give it away. its not something i have any interest in trying myself, i just dont see a problem it is fixing for me. but if there was enough chatter about it on here then i might be convinced to give it a go.
Hi Richard
Point taken, but as you know with any new business you need to spend quiet a lot of money to get it off the ground and I have spend small amount of fortune so far to get this product going.
If you think about when you go out to buy any product, there aren’t that many companies who give out free trial, unless they are the big giants like COCACOLA, or some other drink company.
Therefore I cant effort to give out Free samples, hence I am putting out the Videos for people to see.
So far some of the customers who have used it are happy with Magica.
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i didnt want to jump in but i fell i need to for your sake bosh , think about it...................... send a few bottles to a few of the big names/posters on this site , whats it gonna cost you? a few quid , if it is as good as you think surely you can invest a few more pound on doing this - hell man if you are that hard up give me your BACS details and i will tranfer £20 into your account to pay for this excercise (im serious) if the word on CIU is that it is a good product it will be the start of your empire! As many have said if it is reccomended by others on here they will buy it. If the feedback is bad then leave the product and move on . ....... so whats it to be?
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you would be better spending money on free samples to people on here than you would paying to advertise on here! not a lot of people are going to read your advert and be convinced... but if someone else shouts about it...
what did it cost you to advertise on here? what would some free samples cost you? seriously, its simple marketing and if you cant get it right, then youre product has no chance. no matter how good it is
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i didnt want to jump in but i fell i need to for your sake bosh , think about it...................... send a few bottles to a few of the big names/posters on this site , whats it gonna cost you? a few quid , if it is as good as you think surely you can invest a few more pound on doing this - hell man if you are that hard up give me your BACS details and i will tranfer £20 into your account to pay for this excercise (im serious) if the word on CIU is that it is a good product it will be the start of your empire! As many have said if it is reccomended by others on here they will buy it. If the feedback is bad then leave the product and move on . ....... so whats it to be?
Thanks for your Great Advice , I will think about this idea over night ;)
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you would be better spending money on free samples to people on here than you would paying to advertise on here! not a lot of people are going to read your advert and be convinced... but if someone else shouts about it...
what did it cost you to advertise on here? what would some free samples cost you? seriously, its simple marketing and if you cant get it right, then youre product has no chance. no matter how good it is
I will Ask Alex Gardiner if he gave out Free poles to any member here when he stared his business or Ask Ian Lancaster if he gave free advice on his franchisee , then there is something to think about giving FREE items out ;)
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By the way guys if you need to purchase the Magica, the shop will be closed as from tomorrow until 16th Aug . due to annual holiday. :)
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you would be better spending money on free samples to people on here than you would paying to advertise on here! not a lot of people are going to read your advert and be convinced... but if someone else shouts about it...
what did it cost you to advertise on here? what would some free samples cost you? seriously, its simple marketing and if you cant get it right, then youre product has no chance. no matter how good it is
I will Ask Alex Gardiner if he gave out Free poles to any member here when he stared his business or Ask Ian Lancaster if he gave free advice on his franchisee , then there is something to think about giving FREE items out ;)
This guy is a tight arse and a complete idiot. I have never seen or heard of someone so stubborn and so arrogant. I suggested this ages ago. What fool will not send out a few samples bottles in order to increase his business. A WF pole doesnt compare to a bottle of his potion that probably costs him less than a fiver
Its just stupidity !
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By the way guys if you need to purchase the Magica, the shop will be closed as from tomorrow until 16th Aug . due to annual holiday. :)
Oh and now its closed for 3 weeks , what a business !! It goes from bad to worse
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you would be better spending money on free samples to people on here than you would paying to advertise on here! not a lot of people are going to read your advert and be convinced... but if someone else shouts about it...
what did it cost you to advertise on here? what would some free samples cost you? seriously, its simple marketing and if you cant get it right, then youre product has no chance. no matter how good it is
I will Ask Alex Gardiner if he gave out Free poles to any member here when he stared his business or Ask Ian Lancaster if he gave free advice on his franchisee , then there is something to think about giving FREE items out ;)
This guy is a tight arse and a complete idiot. I have never seen or heard of someone so stubborn and so arrogant. I suggested this ages ago. What fool will not send out a few samples bottles in order to increase his business. A WF pole doesnt compare to a bottle of his potion that probably costs him less than a fiver
Its just stupidity !
I rest my case with this one ;D
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you would be better spending money on free samples to people on here than you would paying to advertise on here! not a lot of people are going to read your advert and be convinced... but if someone else shouts about it...
what did it cost you to advertise on here? what would some free samples cost you? seriously, its simple marketing and if you cant get it right, then youre product has no chance. no matter how good it is
I will Ask Alex Gardiner if he gave out Free poles to any member here when he stared his business or Ask Ian Lancaster if he gave free advice on his franchisee , then there is something to think about giving FREE items out ;)
This guy is a tight arse and a complete idiot. I have never seen or heard of someone so stubborn and so arrogant. I suggested this ages ago. What fool will not send out a few samples bottles in order to increase his business. A WF pole doesnt compare to a bottle of his potion that probably costs him less than a fiver
Its just stupidity !
I rest my case with this one ;D
Think you should give us all a rest unless you are prepared to listen to sound business advice. A window cleaner you may be but a business man you are not ! ;D
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Boshie... Nick at solutions always gives out samples of his new chems to well known and respected carpet cleaners... This (and damned good products) have helped him to sell more than he would have if he just announced it...And he is a respected chem dealer..
Just give some out to a few larger (businsess not people) and respected windy's trust me as a loss leader you could do a lot worse.
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Hi Richard
Point taken, but as you know with any new business you need to spend quiet a lot of money to get it off the ground and I have spend small amount of fortune so far to get this product going.
If you think about when you go out to buy any product, there aren’t that many companies who give out free trial, unless they are the big giants like COCACOLA, or some other drink company.
Therefore I cant effort to give out Free samples, hence I am putting out the Videos for people to see.
So far some of the customers who have used it are happy with Magica.
So SOME of the customers who have used it are happy
This suggests most were unhappy?
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Boshie... Nick at solutions always gives out samples of his new chems to well known and respected carpet cleaners... This (and damned good products) have helped him to sell more than he would have if he just announced it...And he is a respected chem dealer..
Just give some out to a few larger (businsess not people) and respected windy's trust me as a loss leader you could do a lot worse.
Point taken
As you can appreciate Nick is running a quiet a large operation and he most likely can afford to do this, I have just started this and hopefully in future I may be able to do small samples, it all depends on Sale of Magic.
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Hi Richard
Point taken, but as you know with any new business you need to spend quiet a lot of money to get it off the ground and I have spend small amount of fortune so far to get this product going.
If you think about when you go out to buy any product, there aren’t that many companies who give out free trial, unless they are the big giants like COCACOLA, or some other drink company.
Therefore I cant effort to give out Free samples, hence I am putting out the Videos for people to see.
So far some of the customers who have used it are happy with Magica.
No sorry, that means not many people have used it yet, THIS PRODUCT IS NEW TO THE MARKET ONLY 1 MONTH OR SO.
So SOME of the customers who have used it are happy
This suggests most were unhappy?
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So, is Boshravie paying for this advertising? ???
And did Ross have any off you, Bosh? If so, he could give an impartial review.
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So, is Boshravie paying for this advertising? ???
And did Ross have any off you, Bosh? If so, he could give an impartial review.
Hi Griffin
Well to answer your 1st question, yes we are starting to advertise as from 16th August on here.
Answer to you second question, Yes Ross came today and bought one, and I am sure he will be happy with Magica, if not I will be very surprise, because I have been testing Magica for the past year and very happy with it.
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you would be better spending money on free samples to people on here than you would paying to advertise on here! not a lot of people are going to read your advert and be convinced... but if someone else shouts about it...
what did it cost you to advertise on here? what would some free samples cost you? seriously, its simple marketing and if you cant get it right, then youre product has no chance. no matter how good it is
I will Ask Alex Gardiner if he gave out Free poles to any member here when he stared his business or Ask Ian Lancaster if he gave free advice on his franchisee , then there is something to think about giving FREE items out ;)
This guy is a tight arse and a complete idiot. I have never seen or heard of someone so stubborn and so arrogant. I suggested this ages ago. What fool will not send out a few samples bottles in order to increase his business. A WF pole doesnt compare to a bottle of his potion that probably costs him less than a fiver
Its just stupidity !
i can't agree more! ;D
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You know I have been a member here for few years now, and when ever some one came up with an idea which would benefit us all in so many ways, there was always few who were ready to shoot him down.
Why?
There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross their life, these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.
I just hope one day they see the light at the end of the tunnel. :)
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You know I have been a member here for few years now, and when ever some one came up with an idea which would benefit us all in so many ways, there was always few who were ready to shoot him down.
Why?
There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross their life, these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.
I just hope one day they see the light at the end of the tunnel. :)
some are only trying to help u m8
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You know I have been a member here for few years now, and when ever some one came up with an idea which would benefit us all in so many ways, there was always few who were ready to shoot him down.
Why?
There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross their life, these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.
I just hope one day they see the light at the end of the tunnel. :)
some are only trying to help u m8
by the way thats my lost post on magico , i really am too busy "without realising it, till i typed last reply"
speculate with the people who are window cleaners and you will get ur rewards, other than that its hopingg penny pinchers type in your products keywords on ebay.
how many of these u expect to sell to "joe blow versus getting the actual window cleaners using it , is now the case m8)
good luck anyways
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There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross their life,
Bosh, try looking at it another way; try looking at those who criticise as our teachers. Maybe they're right, maybe you should give away some free samples and hopefully your product will get some good feedback? It's called putting your money where your mouth is. Or at least look upon the criticism as a learning tool to teach you to be less judgemental.
these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.
You see, you really don't know if the people who criticise you are like what you've typed; unless you've got some special mind-reading powers or something?
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There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross their life,
Bosh, try looking at it another way; try looking at those who criticise as our teachers. Maybe they're right, maybe you should give away some free samples and hopefully your product will get some good feedback? It's called putting your money where your mouth is. Or at least look upon the criticism as a learning tool to teach you to be less judgemental.
these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.
You see, you really don't know if the people who criticise you are like what you've typed; unless you've got some special mind-reading powers or something?
Well said Tosh! ;)
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There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross their life,
Bosh, try looking at it another way; try looking at those who criticise as our teachers. Maybe they're right, maybe you should give away some free samples and hopefully your product will get some good feedback? It's called putting your money where your mouth is. Or at least look upon the criticism as a learning tool to teach you to be less judgemental.
these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.
You see, you really don't know if the people who criticise you are like what you've typed; unless you've got some special mind-reading powers or something?
Many thanks for you comment tosh
Well as I said earlier, I have gone over my budget on this product and I will hopefully give out samples as and when the product will go in to profit.
I don’t think anyone has the right to criticize or judge some one else without knowing that person .
There is a person on here that using a bad language towards me without even know about me or the product. But I am not judgmental about him, because I don’t know him.
I for example would never judge you without knowing you.
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There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross their life,
Bosh, try looking at it another way; try looking at those who criticise as our teachers. Maybe they're right, maybe you should give away some free samples and hopefully your product will get some good feedback? It's called putting your money where your mouth is. Or at least look upon the criticism as a learning tool to teach you to be less judgemental.
these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.
You see, you really don't know if the people who criticise you are like what you've typed; unless you've got some special mind-reading powers or something?
Many thanks for you comment tosh
Well as I said earlier, I have gone over my budget on this product and I will hopefully give out samples as and when the product will go in to profit.
I don’t think anyone has the right to criticize or judge some one else without knowing that person .
There is a person on here that using a bad language towards me without even know about me or the product. But I am not judgmental about him, because I don’t know him.
I for example would never judge you without knowing you.
You seem to be missing ... 'Big time' the whole point of free samples.
If the product is that good it will confirm it to your customers and build up the trust which you need! Really a no brainer.
Cancel the advert on here and redirect funds. With so many chems on the market, which we have all tried to simply say ours is great is useless, as for cheap vids for myself total waste of time. As a supplier I assume you provide required docs ie data sheets etc.
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Brick wall and head banging spring to mind.
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There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross their life,
Bosh, try looking at it another way; try looking at those who criticise as our teachers. Maybe they're right, maybe you should give away some free samples and hopefully your product will get some good feedback? It's called putting your money where your mouth is. Or at least look upon the criticism as a learning tool to teach you to be less judgemental.
these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.
You see, you really don't know if the people who criticise you are like what you've typed; unless you've got some special mind-reading powers or something?
Many thanks for you comment tosh
Well as I said earlier, I have gone over my budget on this product and I will hopefully give out samples as and when the product will go in to profit.
I don’t think anyone has the right to criticize or judge some one else without knowing that person .
There is a person on here that using a bad language towards me without even know about me or the product. But I am not judgmental about him, because I don’t know him.
I for example would never judge you without knowing you.
You seem to be missing ... 'Big time' the whole point of free samples.
If the product is that good it will confirm it to your customers and build up the trust which you need! Really a no brainer.
Cancel the advert on here and redirect funds.
exactly! it will work out cheaper for you to give out free samples then let the WCs sing the products praises, than advertising traditionally. and i believe, you will get a far better response.
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I must admit i dont think you are grasping the fact that the best advertisement you can have is recommendations,and in your case you can start the ball rolling by quite simply sending out a few samples to wc's who use this type of chemical (which there are many) on a regular basis.
All that balls about running over budget is total crap as you know that if your product is recommended then the orders will start flowing in or alternatively you will have stock laying around.
I wouldn't mind betting that you have just bought a couple of cases of the stuff just to try your luck and hope that you could sell to a few on this forum.If you have genuinly invested in the product big time then a few samples wont hurt you supplies will it?
And by the way i hope that you have found a miracle for those stubborn stains on upvc,as i have tried various grades of industrial cleaners throughout the years and some only just come up to scratch....good luck though.
:)
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I don’t think anyone has the right to criticize or judge some one else without knowing that person .
these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.
Erm...
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Bosh send out 10 free samples and let the samplers do a review on the product. If reviews are good they hey presto your business will have had a perfect start.
If you come on here being a tight Arse know it all who knows nothing then it will be a different story altogether.
I myself only use pure but have in the past used cillit bang which restored crap mucky frames with ease. Its not as if you have a new Pole or system invented is it. Think ots going over your head the importance of advertising properly.
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Bosh send out 10 free samples and let the samplers do a review on the product. If reviews are good they hey presto your business will have had a perfect start.
If you come on here being a tight Arse know it all who knows nothing then it will be a different story altogether.
I myself only use pure but have in the past used cillit bang which restored crap mucky frames with ease. Its not as if you have a new Pole or system invented is it. Think ots going over your head the importance of advertising properly.
FREE, the man wont sleep
As he says Gardiners do not give anything away for free. (apart from hose cutters, caps and those things that you use in climbing, I used mine to shackle the Mrs to the sink)
They do however have fantastic customer service that would be a cost that's factered in.
I'm sure with your sales and business skills like Gardiners your onto a winner, fill your boots
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One thing Boshravie has grasped is how to advertise for free :).
And you're all helping ;D.
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One thing Boshravie has grasped is how to advertise for free :).
And you're all helping ;D.
Thanks Griffin for letting my secret out ;)
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This one we did today, notice how easy and quick this window was cleaned and sparkeled :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY&feature=plcp
Notice how quick and easy ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? no offence but my 14 year old daughter could trade that window and have it just as clean in half the time ;D
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Bosh, I was hoping Ross may have left his opinions on your "mr magica" stuff by now, a mate wants me to clean his campervan at the weekend ( covered in algae and bird crap ) . He's gonna be paying for whatever I use anyhow, am I too late to grab a bottle before your holiday break ? I'm in Brighton too , you know me to say hello to ( gleam team ) , Simon ;)
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One thing Boshravie has grasped is how to advertise for free :).
And you're all helping ;D.
Thanks Griffin for letting my secret out ;)
Sorry, Bosh :-X.........but I take my hat off to you; it's not my money, anyway.
And I'm going to blow your other secret for you. Rosskesava is on Bosh's payroll :o.
That was a joke :D.
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This one we did today, notice how easy and quick this window was cleaned and sparkeled :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY&feature=plcp
Notice how quick and easy ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? no offence but my 14 year old daughter could trade that window and have it just as clean in half the time ;D
maybe she can spell "trad" properly as well
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Bosh, I was hoping Ross may have left his opinions on your "mr magica" stuff by now, a mate wants me to clean his campervan at the weekend ( covered in algae and bird crap ) . He's gonna be paying for whatever I use anyhow, am I too late to grab a bottle before your holiday break ? I'm in Brighton too , you know me to say hello to ( gleam team ) , Simon ;)
Oh well, I'll take that as a no then.
What else could I try ? ( something readily available from a diy retailer locally )
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Bosh, I was hoping Ross may have left his opinions on your "mr magica" stuff by now, a mate wants me to clean his campervan at the weekend ( covered in algae and bird crap ) . He's gonna be paying for whatever I use anyhow, am I too late to grab a bottle before your holiday break ? I'm in Brighton too , you know me to say hello to ( gleam team ) , Simon ;)
Hi simon
its o.k. mate sure you can, i am not on holiday, but my wife who deal with E-bay sale is on holiday, so just give me a call and i will have one in the van for you.
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Bosh, I was hoping Ross may have left his opinions on your "mr magica" stuff by now, a mate wants me to clean his campervan at the weekend ( covered in algae and bird crap ) . He's gonna be paying for whatever I use anyhow, am I too late to grab a bottle before your holiday break ? I'm in Brighton too , you know me to say hello to ( gleam team ) , Simon ;)
Hi simon
its o.k. mate sure you can, i am not on holiday, but my wife who deal with E-bay sale is on holiday, so just give me a call and i will have one in the van for you.
Great thankyou Alex, will call you, Simon
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Bosh, I was hoping Ross may have left his opinions on your "mr magica" stuff by now, a mate wants me to clean his campervan at the weekend ( covered in algae and bird crap ) . He's gonna be paying for whatever I use anyhow, am I too late to grab a bottle before your holiday break ? I'm in Brighton too , you know me to say hello to ( gleam team ) , Simon ;)
Hi simon
its o.k. mate sure you can, i am not on holiday, but my wife who deal with E-bay sale is on holiday, so just give me a call and i will have one in the van for you.
Great thankyou Alex, will call you, Simon
You welcome :)
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I want to ask again whether the product is non-acidic or non-caustic? If you don`t know then perhaps steps ought to be taken to have this product removed from the market place.
Don`t start moaning about criticism,your marketing of this product is concerned purely with profit rather than helping others.
If you are serious about this product and are convinced of its effectiveness then you do need some help.Currently it looks terribly unprofessional especially if a customer might look at your other items for sale,2nd hand dresses etc.
The first thing that sprang to my mind was that you`ve bought a 2nd hand IBC Tank full of a cleaning agent and stuck it in some cheapy spray bottles with some home made labels stuck on, so far you have not said anything to alter this.
As for saying you have been trialling/testing the product for 12 months,well you might have had a bottle of this stuff in the drivers door for this length of time and occasionally used it but to give the impression that its had 12 months of "field testing" is likely so far away from the veridical that its probably nearer to being a downright lie
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I want to ask again whether the product is non-acidic or non-caustic? If you don`t know then perhaps steps ought to be taken to have this product removed from the market place.
Don`t start moaning about criticism,your marketing of this product is concerned purely with profit rather than helping others.
If you are serious about this product and are convinced of its effectiveness then you do need some help.Currently it looks terribly unprofessional especially if a customer might look at your other items for sale,2nd hand dresses etc.
The first thing that sprang to my mind was that you`ve bought a 2nd hand IBC Tank full of a cleaning agent and stuck it in some cheapy spray bottles with some home made labels stuck on, so far you have not said anything to alter this.
As for saying you have been trialling/testing the product for 12 months,well you might have had a bottle of this stuff in the drivers door for this length of time and occasionally used it but to give the impression that its had 12 months of "field testing" is likely so far away from the veridical that its probably nearer to being a downright lie
Yes there is some caustic in this product but not that will damage skin, and if you have eye contact you can wash with water.
And yes I do have a SAFTY DATA SHEET for this product. I can understand your concern and I wouldn’t sell anything to the market without a good research, as I mentioned before I have been using this product for the past twelve months before I release it to the market.
in fact on the label on the bottle it does give some information about the product.
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World English Dictionary
caustic (ˈkɔːstɪk)
— adj
1. capable of burning or corroding by chemical action: caustic soda
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World English Dictionary
caustic (ˈkɔːstɪk)
— adj
1. capable of burning or corroding by chemical action: caustic soda
No its Caustic Soda :)
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World English Dictionary
caustic (ˈkɔːstɪk)
— adj
1. capable of burning or corroding by chemical action: caustic soda
You called me tight arse and complete idiot in last post, which I don’t understand why you are using these kind of language towards some one you don’t even know, just like to know what’s your problem ?
It just baffle me as to what kind of a person you are!!!
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World English Dictionary
caustic (ˈkɔːstɪk)
— adj
1. capable of burning or corroding by chemical action: caustic soda
You called me tight arse and complete idiot in last post, which I don’t understand why you are using these kind of language towards some one you don’t even know, just like to know what’s your problem ?
It just baffle me as to what kind of a person you are!!!
Just read all the comments made by others. You dont listen to any advice and clearly havent tested your product or know it properly. Have you concrete evidence that it is not harmfull ?
You are interested in profit nothing else. Listen to advice given, act on it and get more respect.
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World English Dictionary
caustic (ˈkɔːstɪk)
— adj
1. capable of burning or corroding by chemical action: caustic soda
You called me tight arse and complete idiot in last post, which I don’t understand why you are using these kind of language towards some one you don’t even know, just like to know what’s your problem ?
It just baffle me as to what kind of a person you are!!!
Just read all the comments made by others. You dont listen to any advice and clearly havent tested your product or know it properly. Have you concrete evidence that it is not harmfull ?
You are interested in profit nothing else. Listen to advice given, act on it and get more respect.
Well if its advice like the comments you made about me, NO THANKS.
Talking about profit, well, every business need to make profit don’t they?
You don’t have buy it, if you think its expensive.
I have used it and I know its good product, so I advertised it on here, who ever like to try it, they just buy it. :)
Just a bit of advice to you, I don’t know you, but you shouldn’t make any bad remarks about anybody without even knowing them, even if you know them and they done bad to you, you should still not judge them.
Hope you take the advice, its only for your own good.
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World English Dictionary
caustic (ˈkɔːstɪk)
— adj
1. capable of burning or corroding by chemical action: caustic soda
You called me tight arse and complete idiot in last post, which I don’t understand why you are using these kind of language towards some one you don’t even know, just like to know what’s your problem ?
It just baffle me as to what kind of a person you are!!!
Just read all the comments made by others. You dont listen to any advice and clearly havent tested your product or know it properly. Have you concrete evidence that it is not harmfull ?
You are interested in profit nothing else. Listen to advice given, act on it and get more respect.
Well if its advice like the comments you made about me, NO THANKS.
Talking about profit, well, every business need to make profit don’t they?
You don’t have buy it, if you think its expensive.
I have used it and I know its good product, so I advertised it on here, who ever like to try it, they just buy it. :)
Just a bit of advice to you, I don’t know you, but you shouldn’t make any bad remarks about anybody without even knowing them, even if you know them and they done bad to you, you should still not judge them.
Hope you take the advice, its only for your own good.
You just dont get it do you
Ok I rest my case all the best !