Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: d s windowcleaning on May 15, 2012, 04:19:50 pm
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i helped someone out when he was getting no work on the building sites so i used to let him do some houses on my round over the time ive shown him how to carry on using wfp , i encourage him to build up his own round which fair play he as done , now with him coming with me for a couple of years he nos what houses i do on one avenue i do about 19 houses , he came to collect some hose which id ordered from him , and he told me he was starting to do a house on this avenue in between 2 i allready do , would you pass the house on or would you do it yourself .
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If the customer wants him its up to them ... If it was me i would just let him keep it and move on...
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I wouldnt be to happy about it.
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To be honest, if it was me and it was in the middle of 2 others that I do, then I would quite fancy it for myself :)
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i helped someone out when he was getting no work on the building sites so i used to let him do some houses on my round over the time ive shown him how to carry on using wfp , i encourage him to build up his own round which fair play he as done , now with him coming with me for a couple of years he nos what houses i do on one avenue i do about 19 houses , he came to collect some hose which id ordered from him , and he told me he was starting to do a house on this avenue in between 2 i allready do , would you pass the house on or would you do it yourself .
I would have expected him to offer it to you before taking it for himself, given the circumstances.
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You encouraged him to find his own work, this is what he is doing. They asked him he is free to take on whatever work he likes.
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You encouraged him to find his own work, this is what he is doing. They asked him he is free to take on whatever work he likes.
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you must of been aware that you was training potential competition . and at some point you would cross paths on a business level
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How has he got this customer? Has he canvassed this street knowing full well you work the majority of it - or has this customer called him? If its the latter, then fair play to him
If it was me, I'd clean it and keep it for myself
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there will allways be peopel that will stick a knife in to climb up the ladder.
I learnt this by losing my best mate that I would and did class as my brother
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If he has now gone full time on the windows he will need every job he gets, however when his round is fuller he may well offer it to you?
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i helped someone out when he was getting no work on the building sites so i used to let him do some houses on my round over the time ive shown him how to carry on using wfp , i encourage him to build up his own round which fair play he as done , now with him coming with me for a couple of years he nos what houses i do on one avenue i do about 19 houses , he came to collect some hose which id ordered from him , and he told me he was starting to do a house on this avenue in between 2 i allready do , would you pass the house on or would you do it yourself .
I would have expected him to offer it to you before taking it for himself, given the circumstances.
given the circumstances i would agree its only polite considering you have been helping him etc and 19 is alot that u got so its obvious but maybe he just needs the money really badley he doesnt need to be a bad person for not offering it to you.
did you mention it to him maybe he will pass it on>?
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there will allways be peopel that will stick a knife in to climb up the ladder.
I learnt this by losing my best mate that I would and did class as my brother
Ditto.
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there will allways be peopel that will stick a knife in to climb up the ladder.
I learnt this by losing my best mate that I would and did class as my brother
Thats sad Ian.
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You encouraged him to find his own work, this is what he is doing. They asked him he is free to take on whatever work he likes.
yeah i did encourage him to find his own work , but if someone was to ask me to clean there windows and knowing full well that my mate who had helped to start him up did the house either side i would give him it to do .
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there will allways be peopel that will stick a knife in to climb up the ladder.
I learnt this by losing my best mate that I would and did class as my brother
Thats sad Ian.
yep very, but what hurts makes us stronger ;)
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why you ordering equipment for him?you might as well give him half your round!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
i think its a fine line between being friendly and helping him out as he could take the pee.
i just look after myself and dont do favours for people when it comes to my business.i used to years ago and a few guys just took the pee.canvassing my work and telling customers id packed in!! >:( >:( >:(
seriously stop being so helpful to him and just concentrate on your own business!!
best wishes
dazmond
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why you ordering equipment for him?you might as well give him half your round!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
i think its a fine line between being friendly and helping him out as he could take the pee.
i just look after myself and dont do favours for people when it comes to my business.i used to years ago and a few guys just took the pee.canvassing my work and telling customers id packed in!! >:( >:( >:(
seriously stop being so helpful to him and just concentrate on your own business!!
best wishes
dazmond
It is a fine line Daz - between being friendly and helpful and sawing off the branch you are sitting on.
I remember a chap (still on reasonable terms) who I assisted with others to start - helped him choose the "right van" popped round to sort his R/O etc. Advised him on poles etc.
Then he started canvassing and happened to cross into areas where I have a lot of work - he picked up the odd house here and there (not my custies but neighbours) - fair enough.
Then I put a little ad in a local mag and the next month he puts his ad in too.
All fair enough - but I drew my horns in a bit after that and have to admit that when he was scouting to borrow a very long and expensive pole I declined.
It just felt as if it was all one way.
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When I first started, a friend took me on and taught me the ropes on window cleaning. Three months down the line I started up on my own, although we would sometimes work a day for each other as well. When I went alone, I promised not to canvass his work.
A mutual friend, who used to be a customer of his, approached me to clean her windows. She lived in a road where he had probably half the houses in the street.
I agreed to do hers, and genuinely hoped none of his customers there would approach me. One (who was unhappy with him) did, and I reluctantly agreed to his as well. One day my friend drove past while I was doing them. He was not happy.
Eventually he changed careers, I ended up with most of his old customers and he forgave me, but if I could turn back time, I feel I should have told him that his customers had approached me. I don't believe in patches, (my friend did to a degree) but I felt that I was out of order because he got me started in this business and felt that I had done the dirty on him.
John
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why you ordering equipment for him?you might as well give him half your round!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
i think its a fine line between being friendly and helping him out as he could take the pee.
i just look after myself and dont do favours for people when it comes to my business.i used to years ago and a few guys just took the pee.canvassing my work and telling customers id packed in!! >:( >:( >:(
seriously stop being so helpful to him and just concentrate on your own business!!
best wishes
dazmond
i ordered equipment as i was getting some stuff myself but not enough to get free delivery so i asked him and another mate if they needed anything at the same time .
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eyup dave,i think morally the guy should pass it on,no question, actually he isn,t very forward thinking,you probably get loads of people asking you to clean for them in areas you don,t cover etc and would gladly pass them on to him but now he,s got no chance, a mate of mine started about 6 mnths back and i passed his number on to quite a few people and he always rings to thank me, its good to have good friends on the inside,i think alienating yourself from other cleaners is barmy...ps i havn,t forgot about that other matter,if you want to text me i,ll let you know wots happening..cheers
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eyup dave,i think morally the guy should pass it on,no question, actually he isn,t very forward thinking,you probably get loads of people asking you to clean for them in areas you don,t cover etc and would gladly pass them on to him but now he,s got no chance, a mate of mine started about 6 mnths back and i passed his number on to quite a few people and he always rings to thank me, its good to have good friends on the inside,i think alienating yourself from other cleaners is barmy...ps i havn,t forgot about that other matter,if you want to text me i,ll let you know wots happening..cheers
yeah will get in touch later today mate .