Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mark_roberts on May 01, 2012, 03:48:30 pm
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Ive a chance to buy a secondhand cimex cr38 15inch machine.
I assume this machine does carpets the same as the others?
When using the encapsulation method are white pads or shampoo brushes best?
Anything else I should consider?
Thanks
Mark
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Pads work best for encap work if the carpet allows brushes will also give good results.
I have 6" pads here for that can be used.
Truvox dont make the Encap pads for that model.
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Jamie I have an old r38 model it has 2 pins that hold the brushes will the newer brushes still fit I believe they have 4 holes? or do they still make brushes and pad holders with 2 holes?
Shaun
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Shaun, I have the old r38 machine and purchased the the carpet brushes and pad holders with four holes. They all fit the same.
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Thanks Derek just what I want a nice straight answer, now where did you buy them from? ;D
Shaun
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I can source the drive pads/brushes.
However you can get them direct from the people that make them for Truvox from ebay.
Is this your machine Shaun ?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533445_344179675646680_100001639527933_962577_2064843278_n.jpg)
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Think that's me using it ;D
Shaun
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Are these shampoo brushes?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cimex-brush-heads-/221006812016?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3375085370
Shaun
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Hi Mark .I was after a cimex machine a few weeks ago and just before i bought it the chap said its the high speed one .Which is no good for carpets .Dont forget to ask Des
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The CR 38 ON EBAY IS THE HIGH SPEED VERSION
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I have an R38P Cimex with pad drives, i bought a set of brushes off ebay a couple of year ago.
When i come to use it, i had ordered the 8" brushes by mistake, it takes 6"
Can it be used for carpets with brushes or pads, and can it be used on hard floors with the correct brushes.
Andrew.
Ps anyone want a set of white 8" brushes ;D
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Want to swap them for 6" pad holders or brushes?
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Would swap for some hard floor brushes Jamie
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What flavour? White nylon or yellow polyprop?
There is always these bad boys too
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=206526409412008&set=a.184282084969774.48505.100001639527933&type=3&permPage=1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=206526409412008&set=a.184282084969774.48505.100001639527933&type=3&permPage=1)
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Not sure Jamie as i have never used any, i could take the brushes to mossy' day in Wales, and i could chat to u about it there
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Is this your machine Shaun ?
Don't be silly, Shaun wouldn't have bought a new machine THAT recently!
Think that's me using it ;D
Shaun
Don't be daft, it clearly shows two hands on the machine, not one hand grasping the wallet firmly shut ;) ;)
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jamie what you got in six inches as I have a ton of 8 inch brush stock I'll swap you think there about 12 or more horse hair to poly brushes
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James I resemble that remark.
Shaun
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;D
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Not sure what speed it is. I assume the crs38 is the slow speed 400rpm.
So whats the fast machine for? Is it definately too fast for carpets?
Thanks
Mark
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CR38 is 620rpm
CRS38 is 400 rpm
The 620rpm model is intended for polishing works.
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Paul,
What type are the cimex brushes you have tons of , i could do with a spare set if price is right .
Geoff
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Are these shampoo brushes?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cimex-brush-heads-/221006812016?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3375085370
Shaun
They will work after bedding them in on tarmac/concrete for half an hour or so.
The shampoo brushes normally have a little clear plastic difuser in the centre to throw the shampoo out towards the bristles.
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jamie what you got in six inches as I have a ton of 8 inch brush stock I'll swap you think there about 12 or more horse hair to poly brushes
I dont actually have any 6" stock but would order them in for a swap on a set of CR48 brushes for use on my own machines.
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Ok so too fast for carpets then. Apart from a label, thats now gone, is there anyway of telling if its the slow machine.
For commercial office tile when would pads be better or worse than brushes?
thanks
Mark
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Pads will always work better than brushes. Think pot scourer vs dish washing brush.
On commercial tile go for pads every time.
It's only when you have a broadloom in a hotel or similar that you may consider brushes due to pile distortion that may be caused by the pads.
Always do a quick m2 test before charging ahead.
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Mark been asking around on the US encap forums and many have used the 620rpm CR38 on commercial for years with no problem.
Hope this is correct as have just bought a used 38 from ebay and like you have no clue as to what rpm version it is.
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Pad driver link for CR38.
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I can sort them and have 6" pads in stock for Encap work.
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Thanks Jamie picked some up from ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350359077532?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619#ht_600wt_1135
Think these are correct and half the price Truvox wanted.
Jamie will call monday for encap pads will you soon be stocking the Fibreplus pads ;).
Cheers Mark
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Fibre plus only come in 8" I think. Will double check.
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saw this.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cimes-triple-brush-pad-drives-and-brushes-mixed-batch-approx-30-items-to-clear-/270994521145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f18883c39
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Just added a Cimex to for sale section if anyone is after one, its the 48 model
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Are the cimex s much quicker on commercial that a ordinary rotary. I clean a bank hq and i m thinking this machine look s ideal.
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Are the cimex s much quicker on commercial that a ordinary rotary. I clean a bank hq and i m thinking this machine look s ideal.
Are you using a porty; locked inside the bank, or a t/m sitting outside.??
It really doesn't matter, (apart from the security aspect, I.M.H.O.).
If you are cleaning commercial carpet, I would say that 99.999% of the time, not only will the Cimex give you a better result, (especially on polyprops:), but will also be quicker.
The following is strictly my honest opinion, others may disagree, but that's okay. ;D
Benefits of a Cimex:
Quicker set-up and break-down times.
Quicker dry times.
Less chance of wick-backs.
Less chance of opening a bad seam.
Much less chance of over-wetting the carpet.
Less chance of damp carpet next day.
Less chance of odour problems when dry.
Less chance of condensation on the windows.
Much quieter, and no odour compared to a porty; working in the same area.
Much less security problems being due to the machine being inside with no unlocked doors/windows.
Of course, all of the above also relates directly to the solution that one may be using in regard to odours.
Downside:
Occasionally, the carpet may need to be extracted to remove any build-up of deep down soils.
That's it, I'm stumped.
Shorty.
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Benefits of a Cimex:
Quicker set-up and break-down times.
Quicker dry times.
Less chance of wick-backs.
Less chance of opening a bad seam.
Much less chance of over-wetting the carpet.
Less chance of damp carpet next day.
Less chance of odour problems when dry.
Less chance of condensation on the windows.
Much quieter, and no odour compared to a porty; working in the same area.
Much less security problems being due to the machine being inside with no unlocked doors/windows.
Of course, all of the above also relates directly to the solution that one may be using in regard to odours.
Downside:
Occasionally, the carpet may need to be extracted to remove any build-up of deep down soils.
I agree with them all apart from your downside. Modern encapsulation products wont find this a problem.
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sounds like i want one off these machines.Yes locked inside the banks hq,must be lots they want kept secret because they dont even have money in there.Thanks
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I agree with them all apart from your downside. Modern encapsulation products wont find this a problem.
I know where you're coming from. ;)
I've been cleaning a travel centre, located at the entrance to a food court, in a large busy shopping centre for nine years with the 'Mex;.
I've been doing this every MONTH.
To date, I have not extracted this carpet.
Good solutions are a must.
Shorty.
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What encap chem do you use Shorty?
,ark
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I use a Queensland made "Woolsafe approved" product from Sonitron called Zenith mostly.
I also use a Sonitron product called Chemox, which is based on h2O2 for cellulosic browning stains, coffee, etc;.
Sometimes I use Releasit Punch for some spotting of problem areas.
I very much doubt you can buy these (Sonitron products), in the U.K.
This will probably be all as clear as mud to you blokes, which is just how I feel trying to comprehend your local products. ;)
Shorty.
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Jamie,
I've got some of the yellow 8" brushes (used), and some pad holders if you want to swap for some 6" shampoo brushes (also used)?
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Sorry, I dont have anymore 6" stock.
Its all 8 or 10"
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Ok mate thanks anyway :)